No Dryers; No dishwashers in Qatar!

When you think that there are millions of people in this world without running water let alone a washer/dishwasher.

Stop moaning and be thankful you live in a lovely safe country and have a roof over your head.

dishwasher and dryers are really common things.

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Mian Mohsin Ali

Superstar - I think you'll find that deedee was making a joke.

Would you believe, some G5 countries have common bathrooms in apartment buildings.

The math is very simple. All housing is not built for the snobs. They should not rent humble abodes and then bitch about them.

I am apalled to see who is allowing snobs in this beautiful country! Which company in your home country provides you housing in private compounds and ensure that it has garbage disposal units and automatic icemakers in the freezers. Get a life !!!

i hope you re-think your attitude for 2009....

watched Bugs Bunny or other American-style cartoons because I grew up in remote parts of Africa in the 60s! Still, the tone was a bit too negative pour moi.

I like the usual uproar, we haven't had one in a long time :)

Hehe Bleu, dont all Qataris abuse small animals for fun? ;)

I pointed out the 'you must be pulling our legs' bit before any of the usual uproar began.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

well. stop longing for seattle. If you are so attached. Take the chip off you shoulder and call it quits.

About Abudhabi. I like it twice as much as qatar. It's got the early 90's qatar touch when it comes to local culture. The locals are twice as mature as qatari counterparts when it comes to socio-cultural interaction. Traffic doesnt choke in early mornings. The city was built with scalability in mind.

abudhabi has invested in so much more than just glass,iron and bricks. They are the true modern arabs.

About Aisha-Taweela....Not everyone can afford a maid. I know Whinging about dishwasher outlets is lame(engr2002). Then again... Look at the bright side. The Whinger gets to keep the QL point. The haul is not very dissapointing seeing how vociferous the whinger is.

I also notice some people would assume that whatever they had in some random country is the norm "ALL OVER THE WORLD".

WAAAHOWWWWW!!! I have soooooooooo much to say about your little thread but i'll keep it in, just point out one thing to you. Read your statement as follows - "I for one dislike the idea of having a live-in maid! I think it is an invasion of privacy and it teaches parents to be LAZY and dependent."

What the F do you think you're being demanding a dishwasher and dryer. dont claim to be old fashioned when you too have become DEPENDANT on modern "luxuries". you are teaching your kids to be lazy. stop bledy complaining and just do the damn dishes...

whoo, i feel better now.... :)

DB, Wol1 is being facetious. I'm sure you remember Bugs Bunny. His signature put down was "what a maroon!"(meaning moron)

Mandi

bleu - I can understand your frustrations, but these preconceived notions have to start somewhere ;p

Engr2002 - you do appear to have a large chip on your shoulder about many aspects of Qatar and Qataris. I'm intrigued as to why you decided to start out just ranting about dryers and dishwashers? Did you think you'd test the water first before spewing out the real hatred inside you?

Amoud, I sure am pulling everybody's legs. I'm just frustrated. Nobody is allowed to single-out any nationality here in QL, except for the Qataris. We're DIRECTLY blamed for everything.

Anybody who reads QL would get the impression that we are

Uneducated.

Barbarians.

Stupid.

Greedy.

And so much more!!!

It seems many expats come here with a preconceived notion of how we are, and tries to find evidence to prove themselves right. A single incident or ten, or a hundred are enough to paint all the Qataris with a very broad brush.

Oh bleu, I do hope you pulling our legs.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

engr2002, you seem to have a problem with us Qataris, every time you say something different.

Let me be straight with you:

I will drive however I want and nobody is going to TEACH ME anything about driving or anything else ...

When I'm in my white landcruiser you will see me drive in the sand, rocks, rain puddles just to avoid waiting for you.

When you are driving slowly (anything less than whatever speed I want to drive at), I'll tailgate you and flash you with the highest beam available until you get out of the way.

We don't care about fines and points. We will not change, and you have to live with that. We are also offended when expats drive like we do.

At the request of wol1, I will make next post about driving. I will mention that I didn't see rude landcruisers in UAE at all. What makes Qatar so special? Who invented this ill behavior of very rude tailgating (a traffic violation in civilized nations) with flashing high-beams?

I wish they learn about the 3-second rule and keeping safe distance between cars. No wonder I see deadly accidents all the time. Isn't that more needed than slapping 3 points for parking violations which are not "moving violations" and thus nobody slaps points for that! After all parking is not a TRAFFIC crime (I noticed they refer to traffic violations as crimes in official documents!!!).

Excuse me, a "maroon?" As in the colour? Now that is funny. Perhaps you meant "moron?" I see you need English lessons from one of "those" English teachers? And, my dear, engineers are a dime a dozen in Qatar so what makes you so special? Better not to blasphemize another person's profession when it is obvious you could benefit from it. Maybe you could find a dictionary and look up the meaning of git and realise it isn't specifically used by English professors.

Mandi, it may have more to do with standing in 3 inches of water and dropping your hairdryer on the floor more than actually getting water on the socket.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

engr2000,

I have lived in 3 places and all came with dishwashers. My employer made it mandatory with the landlords. If you don't have one then it is your employer that did not negotiate it properly. The landlords here are no different than the worst slum landlords back home. Nothing is purchased, nothing is done and if it is then it is the cheapest and at the bare minimum. The beds the landlords supply for example are the worst I have ever used. It is disgraceful to be sure but once you understand this your brief stay here in terms of your working life will be manageable. It's hilarious watching building managers yell, scream and push the Asian workers and blame everything on them. The excuses are priceless as well. Write them down as you will chuckle with your friends back home when you finish helping Qatar modernize. The greed in this country is the same as in the US. It will eventually come to the same end.

It's not an open mind you need here, it's a sense of humour and a twinkle in your eye as everything is a facade.

Expect nothing. Do it yourself. You will have to spend 10% of your first year's salary on equipment and maintenance. Accept that and you will be fine.

I have purchased a dryer, air cleaners, vacuums, floor washers, water fountains, desks, TVs, beds and exercise machines. 10% of my first year salary. Fortunately you will find most things much cheaper than in the USA or Canada... - except for TVs. Right now home center has a 50% off sale on water fountains which must be used for humidification - an $80 fountain here costs $200 in the US. So shop carefully and you'll do well.

Despite all this bad landlord behaviour I have met Qataris that are fantastic, intelligent and forward thinking individuals! You will make lifelong friends with them.

Wait till you see what happens to the plugs when you use the heaters on maximum heat!

Have fun and just laugh! Then post something about driving! I can't wait for that!

A git? HA HA HA HAAAA

You must be one of those 'English' teachers!

These threads are great! I haven't laughed so much in a week! What a bunch of ultra-marooons! Thanks so much! Keep it up please!

I can't wait so see what comes next!

cat.inc said

In Qatar a dish washer and a dryer are not appliances but job descriptions

ROTFL!!!!!

Thank you cat.inc! That's so true it's funny!

Did you see the 'automatic' car wash by Landmark? It has hoses hanging from the ceiling for you to use! The water comes out 'automatically' HA HA HA HAAAAAAA What a Riot this place is! Orwell would be inspired!

I don't mean to be argumentative or to resurrect a pretty dead post, but in the US the bathroom outlets are up at sink and counter level or above. Solves the problem of sloshing water around the floor. It's not brain surgery.

Mandi

I cannot believe a post about dish washers and tumble driers provoked such threads. Give me a break.

I dont know about anyone else but when renting anywhere back home a tumble drier and a dish washer are luxury items and generally not included in the rent. Even dishwasher hookups are not the norm.

As for the bathroom sockets, they dont have them here because it is common practise to literally flood he bathroom with water when showering etc. Also washing for prayer can leave the floors pretty slippy. Same concept applies when middle eastern people go to the UK and see carpet on the bathroom floor. _____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

ha!!! with the financial crisis the US of A brought here on earth, who would want to live there?!! duhhhh?!!!!!!

=Dura Lex Sed Lex=

You can't teach experience...

and wonders what you are blathering on about. You make no sense and when, in fact, did I say I hated my country. Actually, I stand corrected, I am not a fan of TO and can think of much nicer places to spend my time in Canada. I think you are a git and should crawl back under your rock. Your reply will go unheaded.

engr2002: what do YOU want?

As for me, I only care about what's in my house. With my white landcruiser the roads are quite OK.

I don't care about how nice the grass in Abu Dhabi is (I know it's really nice), and I don't want a dishwasher - we have many maids in my house, they have nothing better to do.

engr2002 - with every post your credibility is dropping further and further and your true colours are more and more revealed.

It is because your message is so condescending to Qatar, that your post had solicited unhelpful replies.

and then you confirm such condescending behavior by comparing Qatar to other countries, and goes further by bragging about your financial capacity.

it was presumptuous of you to say that Qatar does not know anything about these appliances. like i said earlier, that was uncalled for.

this country is yet to reach the height of its progress, and the last it needs are people who know nothing but criticize and mock, instead of contributing positively to its progress.

you live in this country. you contribute something positive. otherwise, you are free to go to other countries, where you will be happy.

http://littlegirlmaui.blogspot.com/

True Story - to be heeded!

My villa in Riyadh had 220v sockets in the bathroom. One day, the houseboy ws washing the bathroom and decided to clean the walls. He threw a bucket of water over the socket and nearly electrocuted himself.

was shaken and couldn't understand what had happened. Luckily he was ok and I had them disconnected the next day..

Oh dear. Seems you have an axe to grind about more than just dryers and dishwashers!

you'll end-up on the same level. We noted that you are earning so much to afford a 6000 dollar residence, wowwww!! You are so lucky indeed. If I am earning that much, I would not even have a time to argue!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

donnabel;

your attitude and so many others about "If you don't like the way Qatar is leave it" is the CHIEF reason why Qatar is not on the same level as Dubai and Abu Dhabi. Not even Manama for God's sake. This negative attitude means accept bad things and sing their praise!

The reason your ex-country (which you seem to hate now) is so advanced (look at Toronto how great it is) is people didn't accept the status quo! They wanted their country to be better.

How come Abe Lincoln did not accept Slavery and said "this is how it is if you don't like it leave!!!"

How come Roosevelt created the Great social advancement? How come Ike created the great Interstate system? These people were ambitious and didn't want status quo.

People like you and Hessa explain the backwardness here.

It explains why we don't even have one Freeway and people drive over dirt roads. It explains why we have flashing landcruisers!

Thank you Aisha for a positive and helpful reply as opposed to relies that are meant to ridicule the subject.

The dude who tells me "get a life" is very ignorant and clearly never lived in North America. North America has the best standard of living on earth followed by Northern Europe.

HESSA;

The reason Qatar is 100 years behind Abu Dhabi (let me not mention USA or Canada) is because of arrogant and ignorant people like you. You think you Qataris have everything but your city is a mess and your infrastructure is horrible and your city is boring and ugly and all dirt (no landscape). Of course you have huge villas and you stuff it with things but you don't care about the street outside your villa. I pay US$6000 per month for a villa which is not worth $2000/month in a beautiful city like Seattle or Portland.

Just go to Abu Dhabi and live there for 1 year and come back and tell me how good Qatar is.

I've never ever seen an algerian having a maid at home...

Hardcore Gamer!

One luxury we have here, that is not available in other counties, are MAIDS! If I have to choose between and dishwasher & dryer or a maid I will choose a maid, as they are capable of doing a lot more......If you do not live to have a maid live in you can always get a live out maid or daily service to come in. Here is a number of a maid service they will come the hours as you wish. Female maids only. 4134241. It is run by one of our own QLers.

Aisha-Taweela

lmao @ "no sockets in the toilet"

Trust me, not every country in the world has plugs in the toilets and bathrooms. In fact, I'd bet most countries don't. Shaver sockets, yes, but not mains plugs.

very naive. Did you not think to ask if there would be a dishwasher/washer/dryer provided BEFORE you moved into the villa? Assuming that all children are being brought up by TWO parents is, again, very narrow-minded. If someone chooses to have a nanny either part-time or live-in that is none of your business. Each to his own but you sound very negative and, if that is the case, why don't you get on the next big white bird back to Canada (since you seem to think it is so much better there). I left Canada in 1993 and have lived in several different cultures where I certainly didn't "assume" things would be anything like Canada. Why not open your mind, try to shed your Canadianisms and make the best of your time in Qatar rather than bitching about it. I stand corrected if you have been "forced" to live in Qatar, which I highly doubt!

It IS a safety issue and should be taken seriously. NEC and IEEE regs are quite clear about it. No socket within 1m of a tap and should have an RCD fitted to the circuit. I have them in all my bathrooms here, please don't generalise without facts.

Did you Google it first?

Hessa? whats with the tone. Pinky....You need to arrange for your own conveniences. I have rented 4 houses till date in sydney. None of them have more than one power sockets. Come to think of it. The fittings were not configured to accomodate dishwasher in kitchen and dryer (neither in bathroom or in the laundry space).

Need your conveniences. Need to arrange for those to happen.

1. Request landlord for arrangements

2. Request for permission to add sockets and make changes to fittings. Then get it done by a tradesperson.

3. Finally Purchase and install the Appliance.

3 easy steps to keep a housewife happy. Wivesavers or appeasers... whatever you call em

a bit**! Darling, who cares about you and what you have at home? nothing better to do at this time of the night, uh? Take Pinky words: get a life!

if you dont like our country then why you r here??go to your country its better for u and for us...im qatarie and i have in my villa dishwasher &dryer...we know and we have all the luxury items that u dont know and you dont have in your country...

GET A LIFE.................

For me the worst here are: no sockets in the toilet (so women need an extension cord for an hairdryer, for instance) or no laundry area with a sink, only washing mashine (which means if you need to wash something manually you need to use the toilet basin, what is ridiculous to me!). And please, don't come with safety issues regarding toilet sockets, because every single country in this world except Qatar has it!

I have both of them at home,and believe me never used them (even though water and electricity bills are paid by my company) .Wasting precious water and energy...in the name of personal comfort?

I have no maid too,my wife would kill me!

DIY and stop complaining,it will not hurt.Free yourself from home appliances tyranny and enjoy sink discussions...

Hardcore Gamer!

Dishwashers have been around. Then again, not all that common and you will have to make arrangements yourself. Its just like everywhere else. About dryers, looking at qatari lifestyle. You'll be lucky to find any in the market. Here in sydney its not all that common. What were you expecting out of qatar!!!! JAPAN-LIKE living?

I have a comined washer dryer and definitley use the dryer. Having seen the dust on my balcony, I feel I'd need to wash the clothes again if I put them outside to dry.

Yes, I miss my dishwasher, but my maid doesn't ;o)

As to watse disposal units. What a waste of time! Put your garbage in the bin! I was maintenance manager on a coumpound in KSA and hated them - so much hassle!

Did you Google it first?

"Qatar seems to be unaware of these "luxury" items! Do they assume that because they have SUN people can airdry clothes!!! Do they assume that everybody has MAIDS to wash their dishes!"

WOW! you got a twisted sense of logic there. use your God-given hands! do your own dishes!

They are designed that way because most people here don't use them.

We have lots of sun, why get a dryer?

We have lots of maids, why get a dishwasher?

I agree with you engr2002! These two apliances are lacking here in Qatar which I was very surprised to find out. Like you said even if you do find a good size, reliable dryer or dishwasher, then trying to find a space in your place is hard to come by and the connections(no venting). I could do without a dishwasher although some days it seems like I am standing by the sink all day. But the dryer is something that I really miss. Instanst dry clothes, soft clothes that smell good and not like the dust/sand outside is something that I REALLY MISS!

I asked quite a few people here and it seems that a dishwasher and dryer are STANDARD items used in the AMERICAS.

Interesting, eh? :)

i havent stayed in place with a GOOD laundry area... and i've visited other villas here, all of which do not have a laundry area, with connections for washing machine and dryer., i dont use dishwasher even if its there., so no probs with dish washer.,

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call me ONE.

In Qatar a dish washer and a dryer are not appliances but job discriptions

It must be hard living without those deedee. I feel for your loss ;p

I've had them in both of my villas. My new villa, (forced moved by the company) however, does not have a garbage disposal or an automatic icemaker in the freezer. I miss those, but I have learned to live without them.

Many newer villas and villas in compounds have dishwashers and dryers.

I don't use a dishwasher, and only use dryers when it's raining or too cold to hang things out, which is seldom.

Dryers shrink clothes, make pills on some fabrics, cause static electricity in others, wastes electricity and heats up the room they are in (which 9 months out of the hot year isn't appreciated). Drying clothes in sunlight purifies them (if you are muslim and concerned about tahara or ritual purity) as well it whitens the whites. I'm from the countryside so I enjoy seeing clean clothes on the line.

There are washers that also dry and washers that are 'stacked' with a dryer above them if you don't have space side by side. You can usually find some handyman to get a washer hooked up. The easiest place after the kitchen would be a bathroom.

Since you dislike live in housemaids and want to teach hour kids how to be responsible, taking turns (parents and kids) doing the dishes is the best alternative.

i bought a dishwasher for my villa but becasue there was no designated space for it i brought in a plumber to suggest how to connect it. he charged about 200 riyals but did a good job and i have been using it since. the only problem with most villas is that they dont have space at all in the kitchen so i wish u the best of luck.

frankly the weather here is so warm i never felt the need for a dryer. My automatic washing mchine dries them well enough and i just leave them out in the sun to dry out completely.

hi engr, i agree with tallg. i think your outburst is uncalled for. have you seen all the villas and flats in all of Qatar?

I've been in this country long enough to know that these items are not luxury items at all. if the villa or flat doesn't have the features you want, then look for another one that has!

duh.

it's like buying a car with basic options, then complaining why it doesn't have full options, and blaming the country for it!

jackmohan - if he has no connections then he can't just buy one can he!

So what buy one ...simple...

There was no TV in the place I say ...I bought one ...Put an heavy duty extension Cord .....done.

There are people who turn entire Kitchen into Bathroom/toilet & toilet into kitchen etc ........and here you are talking about appliances...

Call your landlord for an Electrical engineer...a guy with a screwdriver & plastic bag will appear at your door. He will attempt to set the problem right.

Don't expect too much in Qatar especially if you came from a country which is high tech gadgets already a long time ago.

How many villas and flats did you survey to arrive at this conclusion?

The 4 places I've stayed in here have all had dishwashers and tumble-dryers.

dishwasher and dryers are not in the place you live but since my arrival to doha I have always had the service and the machine (I mean washer/dryer and dishwashing).

Usually and since my family is not with me I do not use the dishwasher, I do my own dishes. And as per the clothes some of them go to the Laundry Svc and the rest just goes into the washer machine every weekend.

By the way (BTW) the washing machine also performs as a dryer and yes I would have to admit that the size is a little bit of an issue when it comes to family quantities.

Nevertheless I have seen big size washer/dryer (separated) or like twin (one over the other). So in this case you should contact your "landlord" and request some clarification.

Best regards!!