Oryx.. i don't think she has to be more specific.. she just expressed her wish, and made it easier for the NON-eastern european specialists by relieving them of sending their CVs for nothing... we are the ones who should be more tolerant and not to turn every single thread into national-racism issue...
Skin types are vastly different especially those from the Asian and Arab cultures, therefore people have to be properly schooled in this area to be able to treat all kinds of skins.
For instance although they have special nail studios here in Doha they still don't match up to those in the West - perhaps it is from the products that they use so it is just not a question of skills and training it's a question of products too. n.b. she said Eastern and not Western so she had a specific idea when she posted that ad.
Thexonic, thank you for calling right my name .. even though i do not HATE , i never said it...lol... i do not hate people in general.. what i have said is i wouldn't welcome them...
Well i think its taking it too far, personally i dont see anything wrong with it and i would be glad to see an ad like this to prevent me wasting time preparing and sending a CV...
p.s can i apply for the chef position, I can cook lebanese food..lol...
it's NOT discrimination!!! listen, if you were looking for the flat, you would see all the time: ONLY FOR INDIANS.. ONLY FOR FILLIPINO.. ONLY SYRIANS.. ONLY LEBANESE.. etc... you will see "ONLY WESTERNS" may be in 10 % of ads, and "ESTERN EUROPIANS" only in 2% of ads.. WHY you keep silence about it?? very easy: IT IS NOT A DISCRIMINATION.. it's just indian guy feels more comfprtable living close to indian guy.. filipino - to filipino, etc!
what a TALENT to turn any topic into discussion about racism !
The xonic...I know your trying to be neutral but why invite all types of canidates and give them false hope when the owner is clearly looking for a particular nationality due to their training..Why waste the other ladies time in being interviewed.
Oryx always gets on to Americans for their English usage...so even those of us from either Britian or America don't have the best command of the English language..which is why I didn't word it as you did..
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
By the way I do know some romanian girls who r good with hair styles and make up. Had experiance during the asian games. But see there's always a way to not offend people.
Exactly scarlett...i its what you are used to which is why i can see why creamy is looking to cater for european ladies who are used to a particular technique. When it comes to beuaty salons, its a personal choice what customers want and as a business you have to cater for that, nothing to do with rascism...
it's very understandable! The is EASTERN EUROPEIAN! and she just wants to create the team with the same type of mentality, which will make this team stronger in a way of communication, inderstanding, with the same ideas and sense of style... it has nothing to do with racism.. you cannot say that for example iranian style and german style are the same, specially when it comes to fashion, hair style, etc.
right, CREAMY??? wink wink....
by the way, what did you decide about the place??? have you chosen one yet?
Scarlett, sweety, in that case we can always say "someone who has a good command in english", but not "someone who is from america or britain", thats what makes it different. But the only reason why I am going with you on this one is because u do somewhat have point and I agree, no one else in this world can cook lebanese food better than lebanese themselves. But if I were to hire someone as a cook... I'd interview them and then decide who gets to be the cook and then i'd choose the lebanese guy, not degrade everyone else other than that guy in public. It's not right.
I know what you mean, I felt like that for nearly 3 months here in the Middle East, I'm from the UK where we have to be sensitive, then I realised no offence was meant, hence why should any offence be taken?
you speak English quite well....some people don't have that grasp of the properties and niceties of English...I still feel she didn't mean anything bad by it...just wanted someone from the same background as herself and training.
And I know what Nadt was saying...makeup varied from country to country as what each thinks looks good. Personally, I LOVE the way the ladies here make up their eyes..however I don't like all the thick face makeup so that you can't even see the skin underneath...its what you grow up with that forms your opinions of personal taste.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
QT, I can be very patient if it has something to do with me, but I will never take racism, discrimination, prejiduce or any kind of double standardism... may be these things dont effect u, cuz may be u r one, but it does piss me off.
Well lets see what Creamy has to say about this. Scarlett u could be right, but I consider such statements offensive, creamy should have given out a proper discription for it.
I have to agree with Alexa. I remember once i went to a beauty salon in Lebanon and had my make up done. They painted my face to look like i had been punched in both eyes and with two red apples on my cheeks, app that was whats in , was more like a paint job to me.....Each country has different techniques and that wasnt the look i was after...
but they would have to be trained at the same places as this lady wants her employees to be trained in that manner...
but also, in the beauty field, for the same reasons as I stated earlier, if you are being worked on by someone who is FROM an eastern european country then its the IMAGE that they know more...I know..silly but true...its rather like stores selling the same item but one is more expensive than the other...but they are the same...so some folks think that the more expensive item is obviously worth more because it costs more...image is everything in some fields...
You have to know what goes on in the beauty field and how much different things are. The playing field isn't level as far as training and knowledge. The lady who actually started the beauty field was and still is from Romania...she is the guru for skin care...and a lovely person also...
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
I have to make a comment here on behalf of creamy (who I don't know!) but am in the field, myself.
The training that the Eastern European women have in the skin care field is immensely different than the ones here in the middle east or Asia...even in the States is quite different. She is most likely looking for someone who was trained in the same manner, not being racist but because of the schooling and techniques. The eastern europeans basically STARTED the skin care field many year ago and therefore have such a head start over the rest of the field its not even funny.
So perhaps she worded her thread wrong...if she is from that area, perhaps her English usage isn't the best either...there are lots of reasons...and maybe not one of then was related to racism.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Don't worry. It's hard with all the politically correct people here on QL. It's just we try not to offend. We see you didn't mean anything by it so don't worry. It's just you really should have posted this in classifieds.
And I see plety of ads asking for Indians or Sri Lankans only, so don't worry too much! LOL
Creamy, u could have asked for a professional and chosen the eastern eurpean and no one would've cared. But if u bring race in it, i will be the first one to criticize u.
1) Racist, i can give u lebanese, indian, pakistan professional woman that are milion times better than eastern european lol... lets talk racism shall we???
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Oryx.. i don't think she has to be more specific.. she just expressed her wish, and made it easier for the NON-eastern european specialists by relieving them of sending their CVs for nothing... we are the ones who should be more tolerant and not to turn every single thread into national-racism issue...
anyway.. how are you doing these days??
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Beauty can be very cultural..... I would never get makeup done by a Lebanese - just not my taste.
But the lady advertising should be more specific as to why it has to be Eastern European.
how r u doing?
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Skin types are vastly different especially those from the Asian and Arab cultures, therefore people have to be properly schooled in this area to be able to treat all kinds of skins.
For instance although they have special nail studios here in Doha they still don't match up to those in the West - perhaps it is from the products that they use so it is just not a question of skills and training it's a question of products too. n.b. she said Eastern and not Western so she had a specific idea when she posted that ad.
that's how we keep ourselves busy..without thinking too much and working too hard...lol...
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the damndest things seem to create a big response don't they!
Qatarisun, I'm sorry, was rushing thru so missed out the i lol. Good night.
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Errrr..... What wish???? I wish for so much, I lose count. LOL
i think i'll better go to sleep....lol... see you tomorrow....
creamy is also sleeping i guess... don't see her, don't hear....
good night Creamy, QT, and nice guy Thexonic... and all other QLers...
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What wish??? ...and did you completely miss my last post to you?
Oh well, Thexonic seems like a nice guy, I wouldn't really want you to hurt him too much! LOL
when your wish comes true??
Thexonic, thank you for calling right my name .. even though i do not HATE , i never said it...lol... i do not hate people in general.. what i have said is i wouldn't welcome them...
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cool i make a mean kosa bi laban...yummy...
by the way, I've noticed Thexonic call you "Qatarsun" twice now!
I know how much you hate people getting your name wrong!!!
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
Nadt
I wish, if I had a place, I would hire u right away :)
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Well, have you seen some of the other threads! All the sly comments and digs at each other! It would get anyone's back up!
...or it could just be everyone sensing my time of coming is near!
Oh how I wish! LOL
Well i think its taking it too far, personally i dont see anything wrong with it and i would be glad to see an ad like this to prevent me wasting time preparing and sending a CV...
p.s can i apply for the chef position, I can cook lebanese food..lol...
just responding to ur nonsense
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what is so special about today? is that a full moon today? LOL...
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Nadt,
Ok she doesnt have to interview everyone, just get the resumes and then call the people from eastern europe for interview...
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LOL. I think even the most sane of us are playing defensive today!
What fun!
it's NOT discrimination!!! listen, if you were looking for the flat, you would see all the time: ONLY FOR INDIANS.. ONLY FOR FILLIPINO.. ONLY SYRIANS.. ONLY LEBANESE.. etc... you will see "ONLY WESTERNS" may be in 10 % of ads, and "ESTERN EUROPIANS" only in 2% of ads.. WHY you keep silence about it?? very easy: IT IS NOT A DISCRIMINATION.. it's just indian guy feels more comfprtable living close to indian guy.. filipino - to filipino, etc!
what a TALENT to turn any topic into discussion about racism !
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U wanna go that far??? u might wanna check out my inbox then lol...
U think i dont see all that???
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The xonic...I know your trying to be neutral but why invite all types of canidates and give them false hope when the owner is clearly looking for a particular nationality due to their training..Why waste the other ladies time in being interviewed.
its a bit heavy...and I can't stand racism either.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Oryx always gets on to Americans for their English usage...so even those of us from either Britian or America don't have the best command of the English language..which is why I didn't word it as you did..
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Scarlett i was giving an example :P, I'm not racist.
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because I didn't MEAN "someone who is from America or Britian". I mean that you speak English quite well....PERIOD... now you're being racist...lol
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
By the way I do know some romanian girls who r good with hair styles and make up. Had experiance during the asian games. But see there's always a way to not offend people.
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i can fix one session in this salon if you want with 25% discount..lol...
Scarlie.. actually you expressed my point of view, while i was typing my post (and editing it as usual 100 times..lol..)
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Original text:
Professional staff required to the high class lady's beauty salon (hair, nails, make-up, massage etc.)
Salon manager vacancy.
Eastern european nationalities
Rewrite:
Professional staff required to the high class lady's beauty salon (hair, nails, make-up, massage etc.)
Salon manager vacancy.
Candidates will be informed upon interview.
"No Racism, No Discrimination"
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Exactly scarlett...i its what you are used to which is why i can see why creamy is looking to cater for european ladies who are used to a particular technique. When it comes to beuaty salons, its a personal choice what customers want and as a business you have to cater for that, nothing to do with rascism...
it's very understandable! The is EASTERN EUROPEIAN! and she just wants to create the team with the same type of mentality, which will make this team stronger in a way of communication, inderstanding, with the same ideas and sense of style... it has nothing to do with racism.. you cannot say that for example iranian style and german style are the same, specially when it comes to fashion, hair style, etc.
right, CREAMY??? wink wink....
by the way, what did you decide about the place??? have you chosen one yet?
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Once again, that sweet, pretty voice of reason!
Scarlett, sweety, in that case we can always say "someone who has a good command in english", but not "someone who is from america or britain", thats what makes it different. But the only reason why I am going with you on this one is because u do somewhat have point and I agree, no one else in this world can cook lebanese food better than lebanese themselves. But if I were to hire someone as a cook... I'd interview them and then decide who gets to be the cook and then i'd choose the lebanese guy, not degrade everyone else other than that guy in public. It's not right.
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I know what you mean, I felt like that for nearly 3 months here in the Middle East, I'm from the UK where we have to be sensitive, then I realised no offence was meant, hence why should any offence be taken?
...and are you actually calling me racist? LOL
you speak English quite well....some people don't have that grasp of the properties and niceties of English...I still feel she didn't mean anything bad by it...just wanted someone from the same background as herself and training.
And I know what Nadt was saying...makeup varied from country to country as what each thinks looks good. Personally, I LOVE the way the ladies here make up their eyes..however I don't like all the thick face makeup so that you can't even see the skin underneath...its what you grow up with that forms your opinions of personal taste.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
QT, I can be very patient if it has something to do with me, but I will never take racism, discrimination, prejiduce or any kind of double standardism... may be these things dont effect u, cuz may be u r one, but it does piss me off.
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Yeah, me too...
...erm, I wasn't just thinking aloud was I?
The best facials I ever had were while I was living in Eastern Europe...places that were just little wholes in the wall, but absolutely wonderful.
I would prefer Eastern European facials to anything else!
tra la la
I didn't imagine you to be that sensitive?
I'm struggling to find suitable accomodation because they advertise for Lebanese only, or Indians only etc...
If I didn't know better, I'd have thought you were brought up in the UK.
LOL
Well lets see what Creamy has to say about this. Scarlett u could be right, but I consider such statements offensive, creamy should have given out a proper discription for it.
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Only joking Thexonic, I know how much you love lebonese women!
I have to agree with Alexa. I remember once i went to a beauty salon in Lebanon and had my make up done. They painted my face to look like i had been punched in both eyes and with two red apples on my cheeks, app that was whats in , was more like a paint job to me.....Each country has different techniques and that wasnt the look i was after...
but they would have to be trained at the same places as this lady wants her employees to be trained in that manner...
but also, in the beauty field, for the same reasons as I stated earlier, if you are being worked on by someone who is FROM an eastern european country then its the IMAGE that they know more...I know..silly but true...its rather like stores selling the same item but one is more expensive than the other...but they are the same...so some folks think that the more expensive item is obviously worth more because it costs more...image is everything in some fields...
You have to know what goes on in the beauty field and how much different things are. The playing field isn't level as far as training and knowledge. The lady who actually started the beauty field was and still is from Romania...she is the guru for skin care...and a lovely person also...
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Luckily, I just go to the barbers!
Scarlett... There could be an indian or lebanese lady who could be a professional in such skin care... right?
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you realize that if they served booze then you wouldn't care if your hair was shorter on one side than the other....
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
ROFLMAO
I have to make a comment here on behalf of creamy (who I don't know!) but am in the field, myself.
The training that the Eastern European women have in the skin care field is immensely different than the ones here in the middle east or Asia...even in the States is quite different. She is most likely looking for someone who was trained in the same manner, not being racist but because of the schooling and techniques. The eastern europeans basically STARTED the skin care field many year ago and therefore have such a head start over the rest of the field its not even funny.
So perhaps she worded her thread wrong...if she is from that area, perhaps her English usage isn't the best either...there are lots of reasons...and maybe not one of then was related to racism.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Thanks for advise, i will do that. Just now registered and still didn't explore the website
Don't worry. It's hard with all the politically correct people here on QL. It's just we try not to offend. We see you didn't mean anything by it so don't worry. It's just you really should have posted this in classifieds.
And I see plety of ads asking for Indians or Sri Lankans only, so don't worry too much! LOL
I have to agree with you thexonic, some lebanese, pakistani and Indians have a lot of class
Creamy, u could have asked for a professional and chosen the eastern eurpean and no one would've cared. But if u bring race in it, i will be the first one to criticize u.
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if it is, then she should mention it.
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thank you guys
i am not a racist just trying to create a good command
QT lol nice one, but actually u'd be feminist :P not sexist.
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maybe this salon caters for eastern europeans , whats wrong with that?
Would I be racist if I said I was a fan of eastern european ladies. LOL
Actually, I#m a fan of all ladies! (I must be sexist) LOL
QT, lets see... I've been there millions of times, this wont be a big deal lol.
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Even mentioning that word here is going to cause problems!
Wait for it!
1) Racist, i can give u lebanese, indian, pakistan professional woman that are milion times better than eastern european lol... lets talk racism shall we???
2) This is not classifieds, dont spam the forum.
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should really be posted in Jobs....not in the forums.