I have been flying planes since I was 6 years old. We never had any block time to worry about. We were more worried about Aliens in all our flights than birds, shot down a million Aliens atleast till date ;)
More specifically, block time is the time from disengaging (slipping) the brake on departure from the gate to engaging the brake on arrival. It's all computer-generated these days. But who asked about block-to-block time? It's generally just relevant to crew who get paid according to this type of time.
Hahhahaaaaaaa. I did My Flying From Pakistan, If You Just Check Out The Rules Of Pakistan Civil Aviation, You Have To Get A SPL, PPL, CPL/IR, Multi Engine Crew Raiting,And That Is It. The Airline Will Take You And Then Will Indrose, It On Your CPL,IR. (May Be Every One Who Is Related To Aviation Should Be Knowing That block time is the time from which the Aircraft departs the gate to the time the Aircraft arrives at a gate.)
Any How, I Earn From My Flying Career, That Is The Most Important Thing. I Am Not Here To Explain That I Am A Pilot Or Not. Atleast My Family Knows I Am A Pilot, And My Friends And Collegues Also That Is The Most Important Thing.
saadm80 is a pilot. He has his private and commercial licenses and his instrument ratings. What he doesn't have yet is his ATP - Airline Transport Pilot license. That's the biggie and what most people think of when they say "pilot." Hope this clears up the confusion.
Deep B, My Designation Is Cadet Pilot. I Wear 1 Golden Strip, It Is Up To The Airline, In Ours There Is No Second Officer, Just Cadet Pilot, First Officer, And Then Training Captain, And Then Captain.
Well Nic You Have The Right To Express. It Doesn't Matter To Me What Ever You Say As I Have To Follow Company Procedures, And The Manufactures Check Lists And Manuals.I Don't Need To Follow Your Advice Or Observations, The Relevant Authority Is Sitting.
If you have finished your type-rating, shouldn't you be a second officer rather than a cadet pilot?
I had an experience with a one-engine shutdown on a gulf-air flight during my college days. I was returning back to Doha for my vacations. The flight takes off, a big thud followed by some sputtering sounds. No announcement from the Captain, the cabin crew run and disappear. Passengers start panicking, praying. I found the situation rather funny instead of feeling scared oddly enough. Anyway, the captain makes the landing and then the announcement comes that we had to make an emergency landing as a bird went into one of the engines and it shut down.
Amazing professionalism displayed by the Gulf Air Crew ( sarcasm intended). Suffice to say, never flew with them again.
Well Nic I Just Checked The Manuals, And The Procedure Company, In This Case is Airbus, Their Manual Reads out To Open The Lights That Can Distract The Birds Or The Pilot Or Co Pilot Should Be Visually Seeing Any Bird Activity Around Their Aircraft.
Well Now A Days Spoters Are On The End Of The Runway And If They See Bird Activity AROUND They Would Take A Shot At Them.
Sorry to insist, that doesn't qualify you to be a pilot in a commercial airline and the way you dealt with the bird issue, confirms it, no matter what you would like us to believe.
Well Nic, I Am A Qualified Pilot, I Have A License From Pakistan CAA, And Endrosed By The Airline I Am Flying For, And Their Respective CAA.
And I Cleared The Exams, And Relevant Checks, Including A Simualtor Check And Then I Flew Under Observation Of The Instructor. So I Have The Relevant Experience.
Wow, Wow, Nic You Think I Am Talking About Simulator, Well For Your Kind Information I Am A Cadet Pilot On A-319, I Have A Valid CPL And Instrument Raiting, And I Have Had 2 Bird Strikes. So I Think I Qualify As A (Commercial Pilot, Though I Have Very Few Hours But Still.
I said if you were a commercial airline pilot, piloting a commercial aircraft, when taking off, you have close to zero chances of avoiding collision with random birds.
Talk to a commercial airline pilot (a real one) and you’ll see what he'll tell you on this topic.
Well Nic, Now A Days When Every Six Months We Have A Simulator Check, The First Thing We Get Is An Bird Strike, And If We Fail In That Then Forget Your License Would Be Renewed.
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
Well Nic, When Ever I Fly, I Specially Keep An Eye Visually to See Any Bird Activity, I Have HAd 2 Bird Strikes While Take Off, And It Doubles Your Work Load, Engine Shut Down Checklist, Geting The APU On, Climbing And Then Radios
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Mandi Ya We Atleast Both Agree That It Is A Aircraft :)
Well The Only Way To Stay Clear From The Birds Are To Keep A Close Watch. The Rest Is On The Pilots Skills, As Was Shown In The Case Of US Air 320 Which Made A Emergency Landing In The Hudson Bay River, A Remarkable Flying And Secondly The Structure Of The Airbus And The Design Made That Plane To Stay Intact After Hiting The Water.
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
Even worse, the plane can loose both motors, that's exactly what happened to the plane the "crashed safely" on the Hudson River (NYC): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
Thank you saadm 80, but i'm better off not knowing those trems. Otherwise i'll end up debating with both mandilur and you...that plane could be B758 lol
I Am Sure You Would Have Flown 757, But I My Self Is On A 319, And Have a 5 year Experience, I Can Tell That Is A 757, Check Airliners.net And You Will Find The Same Picture.
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Honey, after YEARS flying the 757 I can 100% assure you that it is a narrow-body (one aisle) aircraft with 2 window exits over each wing. It is only the cockpit of the 767 and the 757 which are virtually identical.
Oh, please, it's a widebody, probably a 76. You can clearly see there are no over-wing exits and the profile looks nothing like the characteristic "flying pencil" shape of the 75 fuselage.
Well It Is The Airspace Of Aircraft As Well As Birds. As A Pilot I Know Bird Strikes Are Really A Common Thing And Get Quite Challenging At Times When We Are At 500 Feet Agl Which Is A Crucial Phase Of Flight As The Air Speed Of The Aircraft Is Below 250 Knts. It Really Challenges The Pilots Skills When Hit By A Bird On The StarBoard Or Port Engine.
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I have been flying planes since I was 6 years old. We never had any block time to worry about. We were more worried about Aliens in all our flights than birds, shot down a million Aliens atleast till date ;)
More specifically, block time is the time from disengaging (slipping) the brake on departure from the gate to engaging the brake on arrival. It's all computer-generated these days. But who asked about block-to-block time? It's generally just relevant to crew who get paid according to this type of time.
Mandi
Hahhahaaaaaaa. I did My Flying From Pakistan, If You Just Check Out The Rules Of Pakistan Civil Aviation, You Have To Get A SPL, PPL, CPL/IR, Multi Engine Crew Raiting,And That Is It. The Airline Will Take You And Then Will Indrose, It On Your CPL,IR. (May Be Every One Who Is Related To Aviation Should Be Knowing That block time is the time from which the Aircraft departs the gate to the time the Aircraft arrives at a gate.)
Any How, I Earn From My Flying Career, That Is The Most Important Thing. I Am Not Here To Explain That I Am A Pilot Or Not. Atleast My Family Knows I Am A Pilot, And My Friends And Collegues Also That Is The Most Important Thing.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
saadm80 is a pilot. He has his private and commercial licenses and his instrument ratings. What he doesn't have yet is his ATP - Airline Transport Pilot license. That's the biggie and what most people think of when they say "pilot." Hope this clears up the confusion.
Mandi
Well Nic, It Is Your Judgement I Can't Help It. I Know I Am A Pilot, That Is A Other Debate A Good One Or Not, But I Am A Pilot That Is For Sure. :)
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saadm80,
i could tell you weren't a pilot ;)
Deep B, My Designation Is Cadet Pilot. I Wear 1 Golden Strip, It Is Up To The Airline, In Ours There Is No Second Officer, Just Cadet Pilot, First Officer, And Then Training Captain, And Then Captain.
Every Airlines Have Different Rules.
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No Manuals Or Procedures. ;)
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Well Nic You Have The Right To Express. It Doesn't Matter To Me What Ever You Say As I Have To Follow Company Procedures, And The Manufactures Check Lists And Manuals.I Don't Need To Follow Your Advice Or Observations, The Relevant Authority Is Sitting.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
saadm80 and what about those Birds inside the Aircraft any manual or procedure on how to deal with them?
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If you have finished your type-rating, shouldn't you be a second officer rather than a cadet pilot?
I had an experience with a one-engine shutdown on a gulf-air flight during my college days. I was returning back to Doha for my vacations. The flight takes off, a big thud followed by some sputtering sounds. No announcement from the Captain, the cabin crew run and disappear. Passengers start panicking, praying. I found the situation rather funny instead of feeling scared oddly enough. Anyway, the captain makes the landing and then the announcement comes that we had to make an emergency landing as a bird went into one of the engines and it shut down.
Amazing professionalism displayed by the Gulf Air Crew ( sarcasm intended). Suffice to say, never flew with them again.
Well Nic I Just Checked The Manuals, And The Procedure Company, In This Case is Airbus, Their Manual Reads out To Open The Lights That Can Distract The Birds Or The Pilot Or Co Pilot Should Be Visually Seeing Any Bird Activity Around Their Aircraft.
Well Now A Days Spoters Are On The End Of The Runway And If They See Bird Activity AROUND They Would Take A Shot At Them.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
saadm80,
Sorry to insist, that doesn't qualify you to be a pilot in a commercial airline and the way you dealt with the bird issue, confirms it, no matter what you would like us to believe.
That explains why BA staff are on strike.. They want more money for fear of being attacked by the mob of killer birds..:)
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Yep Type Raiting Is Done, Flying Under Observation.
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Well Nic, I Am A Qualified Pilot, I Have A License From Pakistan CAA, And Endrosed By The Airline I Am Flying For, And Their Respective CAA.
And I Cleared The Exams, And Relevant Checks, Including A Simualtor Check And Then I Flew Under Observation Of The Instructor. So I Have The Relevant Experience.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
It definitely does not look like a 757. And saad have you completed your type rating yet?
Hahaaa. Atleast It Is Not A 777.
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So who won, the veteran mandi or the new pilot saadm, is it 757 or 767. To me it looks like 777 ;)
When it comes to dealing with birds, you don’t sound like one at all!
Having some related knowledge or skills, doesn’t qualify you to fly passengers!
Nic I Was Talking About The Full Regime Simulator, I Was Not Talking About The Video Game. There Is Tremendous Difference Between Both Of The Things.
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Wow, Wow, Nic You Think I Am Talking About Simulator, Well For Your Kind Information I Am A Cadet Pilot On A-319, I Have A Valid CPL And Instrument Raiting, And I Have Had 2 Bird Strikes. So I Think I Qualify As A (Commercial Pilot, Though I Have Very Few Hours But Still.
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saadm80,
I am not talking about computer games.
I said if you were a commercial airline pilot, piloting a commercial aircraft, when taking off, you have close to zero chances of avoiding collision with random birds.
Talk to a commercial airline pilot (a real one) and you’ll see what he'll tell you on this topic.
Well Nic, Now A Days When Every Six Months We Have A Simulator Check, The First Thing We Get Is An Bird Strike, And If We Fail In That Then Forget Your License Would Be Renewed.
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
saadm80
If you were piloting a passenger's aircraft you wouldn’t have that option of suddenly diverting it from the birds!
Yup, Nic, THAT'S a 757.
Mandi
Well Nic, When Ever I Fly, I Specially Keep An Eye Visually to See Any Bird Activity, I Have HAd 2 Bird Strikes While Take Off, And It Doubles Your Work Load, Engine Shut Down Checklist, Geting The APU On, Climbing And Then Radios
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
saadm80,
There is no way you can "keep a close watch" at the birds when you are taking-off (as it was the case of the Hudson River landing)!
Mandi Ya We Atleast Both Agree That It Is A Aircraft :)
Well The Only Way To Stay Clear From The Birds Are To Keep A Close Watch. The Rest Is On The Pilots Skills, As Was Shown In The Case Of US Air 320 Which Made A Emergency Landing In The Hudson Bay River, A Remarkable Flying And Secondly The Structure Of The Airbus And The Design Made That Plane To Stay Intact After Hiting The Water.
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
Rishimba,
Even worse, the plane can loose both motors, that's exactly what happened to the plane the "crashed safely" on the Hudson River (NYC): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
Mandi and Saadm80,
Here is a photo of a Boeing 757:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_757
this is potentially a very dangerous situation...
if one bird gets into the inlet of the turbo engines, it can jam the engine and might cause imbalance of the flight.
the consequences could be terrible...
Aircraft! That's one thing saadm and I agree on.
Mandi
It's an airplane... end of the topic lol
And the birds around it are birds :)
Thank you saadm 80, but i'm better off not knowing those trems. Otherwise i'll end up debating with both mandilur and you...that plane could be B758 lol
...listen to the sound of silence....
I Am Sure You Would Have Flown 757, But I My Self Is On A 319, And Have a 5 year Experience, I Can Tell That Is A 757, Check Airliners.net And You Will Find The Same Picture.
The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want.
Honey, after YEARS flying the 757 I can 100% assure you that it is a narrow-body (one aisle) aircraft with 2 window exits over each wing. It is only the cockpit of the 767 and the 757 which are virtually identical.
Mandi
Mandi In Your Dictionary Is 757 Not A Wide Body Aircraft ;)
Because From My Flying Knowledge 757 Is A Wide Body Aircraft :)
By The Way 767 Engine Cowling Is Bigger Than The Aircraft In The Picture Which Is For Sure A 757-200
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Mandi I Won"t Argue But For Sure It Is A 757, Just Go To This Link http://images.google.com.qa/imgres?imgurl=
Just Scroll Down And Under Neath See The Description.
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Oh, please, it's a widebody, probably a 76. You can clearly see there are no over-wing exits and the profile looks nothing like the characteristic "flying pencil" shape of the 75 fuselage.
Mandi
Which airport is it coming in to land at ?
That Is For Sure A 757, For Sure
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That is NOT a 757.
Mandi
posted just few days ago??
Birds Are Flying From The Right Side Of B-757.
Saad Masood
The catering of BA looks being thrown overboard,thru ALL of their windows,mmmm.....
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Well Marie_2 I Am From The Planet Earth ;). I Was Just Speaking In Technical Language. If You Want To Learn This Language You Are Most Welcome To.
Saad Masood
...and dangerous for the birds :)
...listen to the sound of silence....
Yeah, the picture is great but can be really dangerous to the plane.
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saadm80, what? :)
From which planet are you? :)
...listen to the sound of silence....
Well It Is The Airspace Of Aircraft As Well As Birds. As A Pilot I Know Bird Strikes Are Really A Common Thing And Get Quite Challenging At Times When We Are At 500 Feet Agl Which Is A Crucial Phase Of Flight As The Air Speed Of The Aircraft Is Below 250 Knts. It Really Challenges The Pilots Skills When Hit By A Bird On The StarBoard Or Port Engine.
View Is Nice By The Way.
Saad Masood
wow... :)
nice photo.
I think, they both agreed to share :)
...listen to the sound of silence....