Another maid story...Will it ever stop?

someone here made me laugh by writing We educated Westerner

Guantanamobay, Abu Gharaib, Bagram and so many hidden graveyards are the creation of these so called educated and civilized nations.

Canuk, being educated does not necessarily go hand in hand with ethics and morality.

You are right.

The main problem is that in most instances, these maids don't have any protection.

Most wouldn't know how to contact their embassy or someone other for help.

There was a case in Riyadh, wheer a Bangladeshi maid ran away from her employer. Was picked up by a Bangldeshi driver who offered to take her to the embassy, and instead took her to a place where she was raped by him and his mates. :O(

Brit/Oryx, I have agreed again and again that as long as our country can do something, people would continue to leave. Check my post at 5:33pm to nomerci.

What I am trying to highlight is the high incidence of abuse of house-help of any Nationality in Middle-east which goes either unreported or even if reported the guilty is not punished or just paid with money.

Which is wrong? People leaving their country in desperation for money? or People abusing those desperate ones just because they have no one to seek help?

the issue needs to be tackled two-fold

1. the countries of origin

2. the countries of destination - proper consequences for criminal and socially unacceptable behaviour

then alas the problem will continue

1. people will leave their country

2. they will get abused in their country of destination

with the saudi prince abuse of servant in London at least i can say that the English judicial system complied with

point 2.

As a doctor and mother.. Would you regard children cleaning toilets or working in the home, street from dawn to dusk as abuse ?

My point was that there is varying levels of abuse.. We hear about it more here ... and rightly so...

Canukexpat, as I said before, there are very few in Nepal who keep maid in their house. What you are talking about is child labour which is definitely an issue there and the sole cause is poverty. No, not all Nepalese are poor but to keep housemaid is just not a way of life there.

About, the statement "expatriates feel so strong about being "bought" by money what are we doing here in the first place?:....I completely disagree. No we are not here being bought by money. We are working here and thus getting paid for it. It is not same as slavery, is it? But this is not the issue we are discussing here. That is completely different issue.

We are discussing "ABUSE OF MAIDS" here not the internal issues of Nepal.

Brit, isolated cases happen everywhere. Tell me one place where it doesn't happen. But it would be wrong to say that people in those countries abuse as well. But can we say the same about M.East?

Drmana not all Nepalis are poor, just like any other country. In Nepal children work as housemaids in wealthy homes and often come from villages and live in the streets or in terrible conditions with their employer.

People get abused all over the world, even by "educated" people. Isnt it upscale, educated men who are the ones being found to be going to certain asian countries to buy children for gratification? Are Priests educated?

If we expats feel so strong about being "bought" by money what are we doing here in the first place?

I said abuse..

I agree that it is not extreme as in the Middle East, but you will agree that mental and physical abuse does occur in other countries..

Brit, agreed that change in attitude and mentality is needed but I wouldn't agree with abuse goes on everywhere. Isolated cases of abuse happen all over the world. For you to say "Abuse of maids servants goes on in many countries including Nepal itself"...can you give me a link where there was physical abuse of maid there. Actually, in Nepal there would be few to be counted in hand who can afford to have a maid.

Still I can't deny there may be few unreported cases but that doesn't suffice to say maids are abused there too.

I would disagree too.. It is not about oil or money, but attitude and mentality. Abuse of maids / servants goes on in many countries including Nepal itself, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh etc.

It's just that in most cases it is not as extreme as this case or it is not publicized.

Taking the oil away will make them realize they have to be 'civilized' to achieve anything in current days. Education yes, of course. Because everything is so easy for them from young age, they just skip that part which we educated Westerners value so much, whether we are rich or poor. They only think of the present day as money is plenty and in no sight of running out. A full cycle - money, ignorance, abuse due to power brought by money.

Alumnar, I don't quite agree. I think no oil is not the solution. I think the root cause, mentality,ethics etc, have to be tackled.

Taking the oil away is like saying "you are obese, now I will give you only the food that you need to sustain yourself", instead of teaching how to eat healthy and teaching to take responsibility.

You are so right when you say a miracle is necessary - the miracle of no oil in the Middle East. If there is no money, they have to stop sponsoring as they won't be able to afford it. Abuse like this done to OW is so common and the culprits need to be punished accordingly, or it will just continue happening. And Nepal needs to help its people. I know the abuse of workers has been discussed many times and cases like this happen every day, but until the countries from where these workers come from start helping them, not much more will happen.

I bet these animals who have abused this poor woman have a new housemaid already. So much for justice and legal transparency in the ME!!! :(((

What to say??? Another horrific tale...Gosh!! Really hope that these kind of cruel employers should learn the way of dealing with POORS..

I am not a firm believer in GOD, but heard it from many that GOD sees everything from UP and their(wicked people)days will come soon where they need to answer GOD for what they did BAD to others..

Oryx, I agree. The situation is desperate with no end in sight. Nothing less than a miracle would be enough I feel.

I know about the sad situation in Nepal. However as I said if the home country can't look after their citizens when they are at home...little chance of them being cared for abroad. Of course many countries in this situation.

Every day Nepalis abandoned at the airport here and I know the embassy just doesnt have the resources to cope.

Sadly this applies to many countries.

Oryx, our people have had enough with Royals and thus we had two major revolts in past. But the current situation is not better in any way. Nepal is gripped by the political deadlock. There is no end in sight.

But that's another story. Our people are vulnerable no doubt. Not blaming anyone for that. But how about employers not behaving as Human? That is not the fault of these maids, is it?

And this is the story of the maids from any country working in GCC not only Nepal.

I agree with Tinks first comment. Until countries can and do look after their own....you can't expect other countries to do so.

Nepal is a beautiful country.....but it is unable to look after its own citizens. The worst cases of abuse against Nepalis I have heard about were carried out by the Royal family there.

I don't mean two wrongs make a right...but until the root cause is tackled....the situation will continue.

Many cases doesnt gets till the medias, i guess there should be freelanders or undercover reporters to report to the outside medias who can let the world know whats happening here.

I hope she receives the full amount!

It proves these people are obviously getting another sort of gratification by meting out such mistreatments. How scary it must be then finding one's self employed by such beasts?

What type of mentality is this? Why would one need to abuse someone to get their job done. Going by the mental state of most maids here, I don't think the maid would have refused to do her work even if verbally instructed. Why use physical force?

Heard of a case in Qatar too. an indonasian maid was sick and lying down, she was asked to get back to work, the lady spit on her face and kicked her. Told by an eye witness.

Lafanga, our politicians back home are trying to create world record by the number of failed attempts to elect our PM. But that doesn't have anything to do with this story as even a stable government back home would not be powerful enough to exert any pressure in any Middle East country to tackle issues like this.

Does Saudi admit to slavery? :(

No mercy

it will work in other way, and people will get message not to send their women alone in ME to earn for them.

Is there any government in Nepal to take any action against the abuse their nationals suffer in Middle East?

Last I heard they were still undecided over which party will rule and the King could make a comeback as well.

Cryspy, yes...but sadly, in certain countries that really does not make much of a difference.

Well done to the Embassy for taking up her case. I just hope that she gets the money and can put this tragedy behind her..

at least the news came out.

Nepali Government have already ban any female to work in GCC as housemaid but some how they go there and ended always like this.. Its not first time so many cases are like this.. Still no body is learning lesion form from that. Nor government trying to stop any how for any Nepali female to go and work as Housemaid and when this kind have cased happens Embassies never deal it properly.

one in a million...

saddening it is to keep reading such news and being unable to stop such evil. all we can do is condemn such injustices and pray for it to end. What drives these sickos to commit such crimes? Isn't it clear that all this pomp and wealth can't be helping them much if they get their kicks from such demonic acts? its still something better than nothing that at least this time the lady got some kind of justice than the employer getting off scott free. How many cases go unreported with the poor maids simply returning back home, uncompensated and scarred for life, Audubillah!

Bal_samo, these ladies usually come here crossing border to India and then boarding the flight from there. Some use Tourist visa via some agents here and airport authorities are helpless in stopping them. Government is trying to stop but desperate people find some way or other.

Work as Helper....You can visit a Manpower agency in Qatar you can find Biodata's for Nepali to work as housemaid...If their Government Ban....why they are allowing their female citizens to work as a servant..Their airport authority should know very well because they are checking all the documents before leaving their country, one thing is work Visa emboss in her Passport and type of worked is indicated.

You mean to say they don't bother checking the visa and if you said ban, they should stop her boarding the plane.....

They treat people like animals..... Torture someone and pay the "bill" and get ready for the next one.... that's the rule unfortunately!

Indeed, drmana, indeed.

Yes nomerci, the sad reality.....till the day the responsible ones in our country follow your signature :-(

Lol, well, isn't it obvious?

Have you still not understood how those "people" from other countries are regarded?

Do you really think they will make a rule against themslves?

nomerci, I am talking about GCC countries of course.

And why? Isn't humane cause enough to make rule against abuse?

Am I dreaming?

drmana, which countries would that be? And why would they do that?

mentality they have this people,nothing to say with saudian people anymore.

Agreed that our embassies are weak to deal with these cases. But why can't the rich countries make rule to stop this kind of inhuman act? Or at least a rule to punish the guilty? Is it so difficult?

Bal_samo, there is a ban for any females from Nepal to work as house helper in any GCC country since long. But the desperate ladies find some way out to exit the country to reach here and land up in trouble.

Exploitation of poor is centuries old and it will continue forever. The oppressors keep changing.

Lot of lots of cases.....maltreating their housemaid like animals...Not only Nepali also Pilipine,Indian,SriLankan and Indonesian...There should be a cooperation of ASEAN Countries to Ban sending hosuemaid especially to Middle East...let them do the chores everyday with out house helper....Like this the Embassy should brought to justice until the person who did it would be punished... If they are accepting money as bribe they will refrain of doing again and again...

tinker, a miracle is needed unless the sick politicians somehow stop drooling over the money and start doing what they were elected to do :-(((

Alumnar, the sad part is that she would disappear in the crowd back home with her family happy with the money she brought and in the neighbourhood of her house some other lady would prepare herself for the similar journey yet again. The victim would be silent, suffering alone.

The victim took the money because she didn't want to leave empty handed and surely just wanted to get out of her horrifying ordeal. Who can blame her? Going home with nothing waiting for a courtcase and punishment which might never happen, or take the cash and not look back? She did what any poor woman would do in her situation. The need for money at home speaks louder. I hope she can recover psychologically from these 2 years.

I say to keep quite and let go of the criminals is as wrong as committing the crime itself. But the bitter truth is that financial needs makes everyone helpless.

About our government, well less said the better...A**holes,blood suckers all of them.

well said by wk

I don't see any solution to this. This would go on and on....unless the poverty and desperation is wiped out of some countries somehow, may be miracle is needed.

Drmana, those countries are poor, and therefore they need to be able to send their people to places like Saudi.

IMHO, the only thing that would change that, is if the governments of those countries would get their heads out of their arses and actually start fixing things in their own countries so their people do not need to leave to make a living.

so many such cases around drmana..the employers usually get away with it just by paying money...these things happen all around the middle east..maids and laborers are treated like animals..

my father-in-law once told me a thing that will always stay with me...he said that if someone comes to work for you - like a maid, cleaner, cook etc..they do it out of need for money to support their families..not because they like doing the work..they are needy...they are also people...respect them as they are working and easing ur workload...treat them well..they will return the respect with good wishes and blessings...

nomerci, I hope so too. But with money for crime this is never going to stop. Some real punishment is needed. Only if the victim would have insisted to carry on the legal fight. I very much doubt that it is ever possible.

Tinker, yes...the sad reality of the role of our embassies :-(

drmana nobody in Saudi would have moved a muscle if Nepali embassy got upset, sad fact but true.

It won't stop until sponsorship / visa systems stop. These sick people are everywhere in the Middle East. Users, abuser of human rights, sadistics who see people who work for them as their slaves and property. Is this the way to treat another human being? May the employers of this poor lady ROT in HELL!!!

drmana, I am pretty sure the money did more fo her and her family than justice would have.

And the case was settled with money...no punishment at all...I feel like bashing the embassy for not taking the actions further. WTH!

God..her face is all beaten up!! poor girl...

shameful to know that people have no value for another human life!

hope karma takes care of the sicko who did that to her...

It's quite easy to explain....they are not seen as "people"...they are completely dehumanized and looked upon as things.

Have you ever wondered why in Saudi and in other places men are allowed to work in lingery shops? Simply because they are not seen as men...the ladies can even uncover in front of them, no problem.

They are servants to be used as such.

saeed, I would prefer if you not use that f word in this thread please....

Have a look at her pic? It speaks a volume about what she must have gone through.