Arabs & Home lighting... :-/

I thought it was about BSD.

hueheuhe.........i thought the topic talking about "free electricty and water".

a small concern about home lighting turned into history of arab origins....LOL indeed!

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

"the original Arabs are only those who belong to the GCC.what other nations think of themselves is their thing entirely.period"

I dont think so, Arabs are more than what you have mentioned. what about Arabs who moved out of Arabia to Indonesia for example. I'm African and we have Arabs there" they belong to big tribes like Al-Ansari"

Anyway, I think they just leave it because they dont care. not only Arab but many others do.

thanks blue for this info :)

PuLover,

It's Beastie, the BSD daemon.

(Daemon is an IT term, A daemon in Unix and Unix-like operating systems is a background process, something similar to what windows calls services, they are running in the background, doing things - I'd translate them to جن in Arabic)

One thing for sure, Qataris are rich people. Almost everything are subsidised by their government. So why not.

so sorry for that mistake.

i think that lettle evel in your sign is the reason for saying Mr. :)

sorry again,

erm...btw,i am nor Mr.Saggi....thank you

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

Mr. Saggi calm down ... all threads here are turning and changing :)

some people were talking about Visas .. then they change it to a discussion about (PUMA shoes)

he he heeee . just joking my friend :)

PuLover...kindly exit....this thread is closed....courtesy Nic.

and the rest...i can't help it if people decide to twist and turn a simple question and make it into a pointless discussion about the origin of arabs.goodness!Mark Twain,thy words are golden! Two things are infinite...the Universe and human stupidity;and I'm not sure about the former

sigh...!

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

Its time for Non Arabs .. to teach Arabs who is Arab and Whos is not !

Arabs know about themselves more than you mr.Saggi :)

To conclude: over lighten homes are a display of a mixture of ignorance and exhibitionism.

Its not so much the heat that the lamps generate that contributes to damage the planet, its more the process of producing electrical energy and potable water here in the GCC countries, that is a major killer!

Note: Qatar is the world No.1 producer of CO2 per capita, followed by UAE in 2nd, Kuwait in 3rd and Bahrain in 4th.

That says it all and measures who has more and brighter lights!

Maybe they have disconnected their meters!

I saw a house in Al Khor with more than 12 Halogen lamps....I counted on only one and half side.... so I guess all around it could be close to around 30.

Each of that halogen is approx 250 to 500W....so 30x250 = 7,500w....it would be brighter than a Film Set!

Al least their monthly bill must be sent to them so they know how much they are wasting.

But as bleu said if its just to provide light in the surroundings then its ok as it prevents theft...etc...but using big, energy consuming lamps just to show off is a real waste.

Now a days there are Solar Garden lamps or LED lamps that consume 1% of a normal lamps energy....they are a good replacement....

am not Arab .. but my E&W is free for me ..

Reducing a topic that could've turned to an environmental and cultural discussion to a living proof of:

"To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

Enjoy your historical wiki!

Exit

Salam

Why do I see foreignors who also get water for free their company pays the water bill, wasting water washing the street during a dust storm. One big compound here I have seen it happen alot! It costs a fortune to desalinate the water. The maid was cleaning the street. I guess they think its the land of plenty so who cares, education is definately needed, I think they are starting with kids in school.

Simple = because they doesnt know the fact that "" Energy is never produced, Its converted from one to another''

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I think people should have been more concerned about wastage of electricity rather than concentarting on the definition of Arabs or nationailities of the ones who are wasting it. Even for those it's free, it's not going to remain free forever if you keep wasting it. It also releases a lot of heat in the environment which doesn't really help global warming.

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Option 1 looks correct to me.

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Svelte...

Yes, but the current usage of the word Arab isn't usually about race. It's about culture.

We have many Qataris who's origin in from Iran, so they're mostly Persian, but have lived here for generation, they're Qataris, speak Arabic, and in the statistics, they are counted as Arabs.

The current meaning of "Arab" is somebody from a country that's a member of the Arab League.

The classifications of people used in the Arabic newspapers here are: Citizen, GCC National, Arab National, Asian, African, Foreigner.

Arab League ≠ GCC

IMHO,the original Arabs are only those who belong to the GCC.what other nations think of themselves is their thing entirely.period.

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

Who would keep the house fully lit even if electricity is free? So it has got something to do with awareness and attitude...

It's probably because electricity is free, but does it really matter ?

To each his own..

Damn; again, a simple question turns to a fight of race, culture and origin.

To cut this thread; please people it was a simple misunderstanding from both sides.

svelte_saggi: please note that a lot of countries consider themselves as Arab; please refer to the countries participating in Arab League.

To the others defending and attacking Sevelte: please consider that according to sevelte definition of Arab is GCC countries; and I think Blue came up with justification for her query

I hope this will clear out the misunderstanding

svelte_saggi,

ok, it's probably a combination of ignorance, extreme wealth and an absolute need to shine on stage (a cultural feature around here).

i don't really think so,mate.there has to be some other reason.i mean....who'd want to get light flowing into their bedrooms while they try to get some sleep at night....oh!i forgot about the heavy drapes :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

they have some thousand units charge free... afterthen they have to pay... it's not free... there's some limits for them too....

Why making it so complicated? It is nothing about jealous or anything. just a silly thread.. Answer if you want or just move on to other.. Why being so sarcastic..

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

wht people trying to proove here???

one question suddenly cross to my mind..........WHO IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR WASTING THE MOOOOST OF ENERGY????

Definitions of jealous on the Web:

Jealousy is an emotion and typically refers to the negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity, fear, and anxiety over an anticipated loss of something that the person values, such as a relationship, friendship, or love

....just in case you didn't know the definition.coz if you knew,i don't understand why you would use it in this context.coz i find no reason whatsoever to be jealous of such silly things.i just queried if anybody knew the reason why they did this.i never said i have a problem with them doing it.let them put on all the lights in their home and in their neighbours' homes too if they want.i couldn't possibly care less.

and for the 6th (or is it 7th?) time,i repeat that by the word 'Arab',i meant only GCC nationals and not people belonging to nations that speak arabic.what other language do i have to explain myself now?heavens! x-(

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

I would say it probably doesn't depend on the nationality or race. I think it’s a combination of extreme wealth and ignorance (the show-off need blinds them from knowledge, being unware of the impact in the world for wasting energy).

svelte_saggi, and why are u so jealous? ha?

and there are 21 arab countries not only GCC unless u meant qataris then bleu gave u the answer.

who is blind? :-o

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

just coz i have lived in the middle east all my life doesn't mean that i should have no questions unanswered.and when i said that,i meant to say that i have seen more than enough homes lit up like this in every GCC country i have visited....without exception.the question has plagued me for years and i have asked many people too.it's just that i decided to quiz QL about it only now....coz i was not getting any satisfactory answers.hope i have cleared what you assumed to be "blatant contradiction"

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

maybe coz you are blind?

there is no need to knock every door.coz the gates will be fully open and u can see majestic luxury cars parked within.proof enuf that they are the royal arabs :-)

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

According to Wikipedia,Arabs are a Semitic people originating in Arabia, but today spread across most of Western Asia and North Africa, and many other parts of the world.so basically the true blue arabs are the people of the GCC.many other nations started to speak arabic after it replaced their regional languages.in case of egypt,it was after the Muslim Conquest of Egypt in 639AD (source:Wikipedia)

so technically speaking,egyptians are NOT 'arabs'....they speak arabic but are not 'arabs'.....

and i was speaking about 'arabs',please.

btw,we light up the front light of our porch every evening at sun-down and switch it off at dawn.that is quite normal.it's just having all lights on al around the house that seems queer

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

welll.............am not arab and am not paying anything for water and electricity since the day i came to this country 9 yrs ago. but even tough, i help Qatar to save the oil vy reduce the electricity consumption for uneccessary stuff

I think this is a very simple post, I just disagree with its grounds. It doesn't hold any truth to me and my large family's daily practice, I happen to be an Arab.

I think he thought I'm being rebellious, I wasn't at all, I was only responding!

Salam

Bleu there you are...:) I was missing this..lol

I thought there was a proposal to charge nationals for Electricity?

SG mentioned to happy happy..."my dear friend,i have lived in the middle east all my life and know about this region more than my own homeland".

Also the first line of the post says..."A question that has intrigued me since a looooooong time....why do Arabs light up their houses day-in and day-out????"

Arent the two statements contradicting each other......

and neither I have any interest in knowing about it nor am concerned ...just couldn't resist the blatant contradiction there...

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p.s. Many expats say "Arabs" when they mean Qataris...

I haven’t noticed their homes yet but the roads here are lit way beyond the International standards. The road to Dukhan was just an eyesore with so many extra lights being used and is a sheer wastage of electricity.

"(note the word Arab...not Arabic speaking)", I'm one and we don't leave the lights on day and night.

The entrance of our condo is lit at night until the first beam, because we don't mind paying some extra money for safety reasons.

Salam

something that Qatar strives to hide!

E & W are free for QATARIES only !! not for Arabs ,,

how did you know that all these lighted houses are for Arabs ? did you knock all doors and ask ? :)

really?i wasn't aware! :-o

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

that is why qatar is listed on the top of "List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

now that's a smart answer.....this is all i expected!thanks for being a sport :-) \m/ peace to all!

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

Whatever-7...please read my post once again.i have clearly mentioned that i am not talking about all arabic speaking people.my query was only with respect to GCC nationals...i.e.,UAE,Qatar,Bahrain,Kuwait,Saudi Arabia and Oman.so egypt clearly does not fall into that category.and the question is not explicitly posed against you.and regarding the part as to whether i have done a thorough study about arabs....my dear friend,i have lived in the middle east all my life and know about this region more than my own homeland.

Happy Happy...what's so "ungrounded and untruthful" about what i said???just take a drive to rayyan or gharaffa today evening and take a look at the plush arab houses in that area.u'll see for yourself what i have said is true.if haven't noticed it till now,that's not my problem.heck,why drive?even while travelling in an airplane at night,just look down when you pass over any country in the Middle east and u'll see small dotted lighted squares on the ground...marking house compounds.

heavens,i just asked a simple innocent question and people accuse me of blasphemy!where is this world going to? :-o

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

1. We Qataris get free E&W

2. Why not.

3. Municipality doesn't put lights in our neighborhoods, we don't care if we replace a light on the boundary wall once a week.

Not forgetful, we intentionally turn them on at around 5:30 PM, and off in the morning, every day.

There is one more point #5 missing from your post, it goes like this:

-5 My post is ungrounded and untruthful, would an Arab confirm the above, please?

Salam

Please do not generalize; I'm from Egypt, so in way I’m Arab, and we do not do that.

Generalizing a rule based on nationality is very wrong and only proves how ignorant you are; unless you ready did a search covering all Arab countries, which I really doubt.

Please try to be a little specific next time to avoid disturbing others

If you have any inquiry about Arab; I would gladly answer your questions. Other are welcome to ask and will try in my best effort to answer, hopping to clear some of the misunderstandings.

Regards

the pic is just a pic.... LOL :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

Electricity is free for them.

And whats with that pix?

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

Bcoz E&W free