because I’m a woman - u won’t give me a job?

strawberry_shisha
By strawberry_shisha

"Is it because I’m brown, or a mother, or a woman - that you won’t give me a job?" newbie Nidhi Zakaria Eipe ruminates on some of the problems expat women especially face in Qatar’s job market because of the gender gap in employment here

He: You have been shortlisted along with two others from among the 40 applicants I interviewed.

Me: Awesome, thank you!

He: I have passed your name along to the selection committee. You actually ranked first in the test that I gave you, and I thought you were the best candidate. I gave you the best recommendation among all three. But the other two shortlisted people are guys. You are the only lady, so the selection committee may not pick you.

Thoughts?

Read more: Source: http://dohanews.co/post/28257811654/guest-post-is-it-because-im-brown-or...

By Pappu_Pager• 1 Aug 2012 07:37
Pappu_Pager

in this case its the mistake of the interviewer as he / she is nt sure about the candidates personal status.

but see if u were married u wld be the first choice as less expense.

By strawberry_shisha• 1 Aug 2012 07:31
strawberry_shisha

@damsel, it happens to me before..i had my final interview with the big boss and to the point that he have discussed everything from salary to benefits to accommodation etc etc..only to find out in the end that they we're not able to secure a visa for employees not under husband sponsorship..too bad coz that day i still have other interviews which i did not able to attend coz of this #@%$*&^ company..grrrrr!!!

By JC647• 31 Jul 2012 17:37
Rating: 2/5
JC647

A company has the right to deny or hire you - stop making it an issue about what kind of genitalia you have, the color of your skin or whatever else.

Personally - I'd never hire a woman. They can get pregnant and go on maternity leave, which is a huge mess of paperwork. Plus, they take jobs that Men married with children need to support their families.

Whatever, I'm just "closed-minded" to you folk anyway.

By fubar• 31 Jul 2012 12:06
fubar

True Damsel.

Either they are too stupid to know the rules about hiring female workers, or they are too sexist to hire an unmarried worker.

Either way they sound like morons.

By damselindistress• 31 Jul 2012 11:52
damselindistress

I agree fubar! It clearly shows on my resume, which I think they should have at least reviewed first. It was asked during my phone and initial face to face interview with HR, how come they didnt say it in the first placbefore sending me to their GM, it should have saved both our time.

Oh well, as I've said, I am better off somewhere else :).

By fubar• 31 Jul 2012 11:19
Rating: 2/5
fubar

Companies that only hire married people do so because they don't have visas for single women.

There are a lot of government imposed obstacles to hiring women in Qatar, especially CID clearance and obtaining visas.

But the employers should just ask whether you are under husband sponsorship before any interview takes place.

By anonymous• 31 Jul 2012 11:11
anonymous

I think QL is not a matrimonial site.........lols

By Pappu_Pager• 31 Jul 2012 11:09
Pappu_Pager

r u tryin to share the experience or want to hilite us ur marital status....lols

By painther• 31 Jul 2012 10:36
painther

Damsel, you can say it now what you couldn't during your interview for the sake of professionalism .

:)

By damselindistress• 31 Jul 2012 10:28
damselindistress

Happened to me personally... such a waste of time!

I passed the phone interview and initial interview conducted by HR and well recommended by them so they arrange me a final interview with their GM, it took us about an hour of Q & A, he said that I am qualified for the job,that I am confident and well experienced, however they only hire MARRIED women in their company! Ha! Ha! I wanted to sarcastically say something but I just let it slide as an act of professionalism.

I just moved on and told myself that I am better off somewhere else, which, thankfully I am now :)

Discrimination is everywhere, I am aware of that, so instead of whining about it, I embraced it, I took it as a challenge. And it gave me a positive outcome ;)

By painther• 31 Jul 2012 09:49
painther

Britex, right, it's later :)

By britexpat• 31 Jul 2012 04:27
britexpat

Is it discrimination or just the blog of someone whining ?

By strawberry_shisha• 30 Jul 2012 23:44
strawberry_shisha

@ydlov12 because no one will never ever get used to discrimination..

By ydlov12• 30 Jul 2012 22:11
ydlov12

Why, aren't we getting used to discrimination!

By britexpat• 30 Jul 2012 21:56
britexpat

Hogwash. Why do people expect to find jobs here by just turning up ?

By koykoy• 30 Jul 2012 21:52
Rating: 5/5
koykoy

Women can get a job here in Qatar much easier than men. For example, many married women and daughters of residents have the option to stay on their husband's or fathers' sponsorship and enjoy selecting and swapping jobs anytime.

Another example is that many job posts here in Qatar prefer females such as secretarial, receptionist, customer service, cashiers, and many more.

It might be true that women might find it difficult to get a job in Qatar only if they apply for, lets say, a shawerma chef, or a construction labor:)

By GCC-qar• 30 Jul 2012 21:46
GCC-qar

As per the feedbacks from most other people, there is a certain preference for women in jobs - their pay grades aer quite good... Certain nationalities are excused - however!

By maolusoji• 30 Jul 2012 20:54
maolusoji

I for one have suffered on the gender and nationality issue..is it because am black/African that i wont get a job...i mean i have all what it takes and the qualifications but up to now dont have a job..!

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 20:14
anonymous

I agree. Men can't have periods. Period.

By strawberry_shisha• 30 Jul 2012 18:44
strawberry_shisha

What a man can do, a woman can do better..period..

By fubar• 30 Jul 2012 11:48
fubar

Why did they even shortlist, interview, and assess a female candidate if there was absolutely no chance of her getting the job?

If they only want a man, then don't interview women and get their hopes up for nothing.

By chameleon• 30 Jul 2012 11:15
chameleon

Moza, you are in Qatar. You could or should specify the qualifications and the preferences you require, no matter how discriminating and unfair they may sound. It would save time, effort and other resources for the applicant and the employer.

By ingeniero• 30 Jul 2012 11:13
ingeniero

Tinki, Well You know it's ramandan, and i am fasting! So!!!! :P :D

Well Ramadan kareem :)

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 11:13
anonymous

moza Iam a mouse to my lady boss and say yes madam after 45 seconds not like u as a lady lion saying NO to yr male boss every 20 seconds and if u pity me pls join me in yr office

By painther• 30 Jul 2012 11:12
painther

double post :(

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 11:06
anonymous

I can give solution. There are daily guys coming to my office selling books. That could be helpful. What you say on that. go for it.

By painther• 30 Jul 2012 11:05
painther

too much for the "rights" of prospective employee!!!

what about the right of the employer, to chose what's 'right" for them ?

..too much of nagging I guess!!

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 11:01
Pappu_Pager

try to be happy with what u get

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:59
anonymous

PP is there any vacancy at pizza hut or Mc donalds if you have any wastha do inform me bcos gym doesnt give much salary now getting bored seeing all the equipments want to see the outer doha while carrying pizza or burger

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:59
Pappu_Pager

why pizzas and burgers dnt work with CID's...lols

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:58
anonymous

TFS

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:57
Pappu_Pager

for opening a grocery u dnt need talent u require to have a location :)

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:57
anonymous

shoooooooooo...CID will deport you..lol

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:57
anonymous

Again Dawood, more presumptions. For your info I do not have a job.

I guess dealing with someone that has different views to you must be very hard. I pity your poor work collegues but I have a feeling at work you are as quiet as a mouse, just saying yes sir to your boss every 32 seconds.

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:56
Pappu_Pager

again u started to divert the topic and

shaktimaan dnt post wrong things that carrying dates and khuroof can work those were the old days now u have to carry pizzas and burgers ....lols

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:55
anonymous

lols...............shakti thats why she is angry with saudi mutawwas TFS

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:54
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

Women not getting jobs at some places for well, being women and women getting their salaries tripled in some places for well, having breasts!

http://wearethebest.wordpress.com/2011/07/31/business-tv-channels-obsessed-with-breasts/

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:54
anonymous

PP what kind of talent required to start up my own grocery shop like one mallu frnd have

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:50
anonymous

MIMH works for saudi undergarment shops. So do not worry.

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:48
anonymous

BG dont want to work in any company where MIMH works better to work in lulu or carrefour bcos always insulting indians and specific one religion

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:46
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

I will give you a solution. Next time take DATES & GAVA with you. Invite him for KHARUFF.

YOUR APPOINTED.

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:44
anonymous

www.bayt.com

www.monsterindia.com

By lifezntez• 30 Jul 2012 10:43
Rating: 3/5
lifezntez

Yes its true... I have also experienced the same... Too tough for women to work in Qatar. :(

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:43
Pappu_Pager

i just blaber here that doesnt mean that u have take my words ....lols

if ur jobless it means u lack in talent

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:42
anonymous

PP Pls clarify which website to apply as iam currently jobless any part time job also ok

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:38
Pappu_Pager

nw dnt go into flashback as both BG and moza are waiting to kick back ....lols

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:37
Pappu_Pager

i agree that all the good jobs are taken over by wasta but if u need good job never rely on news papers its better to apply thru the website

By ingeniero• 30 Jul 2012 10:34
ingeniero

Wasn't the topic about female discrimination and jobs? and not about hijab/Islam!

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:28
Pappu_Pager

not all the sites. it depends on the person who is poting the requirement

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:22
anonymous

No more clarifications need for you BG. Your mind is already fixed.....

Cham you should not specify that you need a male candidate! Unless the role is for a male model, where the gender is an essential part of the job role.

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 10:16
Rating: 4/5
Pappu_Pager

the show begins now from ladies working to hijab, helmet, skirts etc etc dont u guys and gals get bore talkng on the same topic always :(

By chameleon• 30 Jul 2012 10:15
Rating: 3/5
chameleon

The employer should have specified that they needed a male candidate!

And this guy informing the female applicant after acing all the tests that the probability of her being selected is almost nil due to her gender.......That's so insensitive and unprofessional.

But well, I sometimes forget where we are....

By Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte• 30 Jul 2012 10:15
Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte

thanks tink but i was expecting more clarifications from mr moza

By zaxabi• 30 Jul 2012 10:13
zaxabi

rare case but most of the time, it depends on the Job Title

By Miss Mimi• 30 Jul 2012 10:13
Rating: 4/5
Miss Mimi

How did this get on to hijab & niqab?

Anyway, my two cents, coming from a country where it's not unusual to see people walking around wearing balaclava's or ski mask's 6 months of the year, the rule of thumb is you remove them when entering banks, or anyplace with security.

It's common sense.

By Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte• 30 Jul 2012 10:11
Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte

now pls clarify helmet comes under which religion

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:11
anonymous

Discrimination/Bias exist everywhere to a certain extent but I find it surprising that HE(The guy in the blog) can be so open about it

By Miss Mimi• 30 Jul 2012 10:09
Rating: 2/5
Miss Mimi

It's a big problem here. For the most part if a non-Qatari woman wants to find work, she needs to stick to Western run companies, or in positions commonly held by women.

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:09
anonymous

I did not compare hijab with a helmet I said only to remove the niqab. You only read what you want to read to justify your prejudice opinions.

Anyway a short skirt is not a security risk in an Islamic Bank, just culturally offensive so not a valid arguement.

By Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte• 30 Jul 2012 10:09
Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte

helmet comes under which religion

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 10:06
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

I have seen ladies in short skirt entering ISLAMIC BANK over here in QATAR. But respectfully they were never stopped by any one. As you said its a freedom of choice. If as you say it is sensitive areas then they should remove their skirt out and go inside. No, iam sure not. Then why do remove the hijab. Do not compare hijab with a helmet.

By ingeniero• 30 Jul 2012 10:06
ingeniero

Support the cause and people will call you feminist, don't do - you are doing gender discrimination,

btw i don't believe on this story, every story from doha news doesn't that it's authentic, female getting jobs! Can we just count Philippines?

Females are holding Secretary, P.A, Accountant and mostly now HR posts! Still complain?

By Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte• 30 Jul 2012 10:05
Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte

bike helmet and hijab is same nice info

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 09:58
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

Shak what I have always said about France and Belgium, their ban on the hijab and niqab is wrong. It's a freedom of choice issue. However, if they want to enter senstive areas such as banks or govt offices then they need to remove the niqab. The same as anyone wearing a bike helmet would have to do.

By Molten Metal• 30 Jul 2012 09:32
Molten Metal

'' ...so the selection committee may not pick you.''

Because they have 'bad' experience keeping an employee from that gender.

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 09:29
Pappu_Pager

depends the way u thnk for eg.. if ur a racist u will thnk all other in ur surroundings are racist

By Theabayaboy1• 30 Jul 2012 09:18
Theabayaboy1

WOMEN RULE !!

By GodFather.• 30 Jul 2012 09:04
Rating: 3/5
GodFather.

All part and parcel of working in the Middleast.

By Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte• 30 Jul 2012 08:52
Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte

first cry for work , then cry for NOC , then cry slaves slaves

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 08:51
anonymous

I heard couple of months back a hijabi woman was not allowed to interview in a Western management run company over here and was turned out. What do you say about that. Just heard of it. Do not ask for source. I think this was even put in QL. What do you say about that.

What do you say about FRANCE AND BELGIUM. :-P

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 08:49
anonymous

What does Iman mean. Lol.

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 08:47
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

Yes Shak good point. Job success here depends on, religion, gender, nationality and race. None of these things have any bearing on your ability to work, well unless you are applying to be an Iman or work in a female under garments store.

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 08:44
anonymous

SS yr true

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 08:42
anonymous

Maybe she was not in hijab. Lol.

By strawberry_shisha• 30 Jul 2012 08:36
strawberry_shisha

@zilo, true..

By Zilo_Guy10• 30 Jul 2012 08:22
Zilo_Guy10

i think here alo it depends on the nationality.

By Pappu_Pager• 30 Jul 2012 08:04
Pappu_Pager

i doubt :(

By anonymous• 30 Jul 2012 07:51
anonymous

Not surprising. Even Qatar Immigration is reluctant to issue work visas for single ladies.

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