It was not a UN translator - Gaddafi brought his own translator, and he couldn't even get that right. lol
"Colonel Gaddafi's bizarre rant at the UN was met with yawns and disbelief by delegates.
But it was to much for the eccentric Libyan leader's translator who is said to have collapsed with exhaustion during the lengthy diatribe.
The beleaguered interpreter cried 'I just can’t take it any more,' into a live microphone in Arabic after 75 minutes of Gaddafi's ramblings and was replaced by the U.N.’s Arabic section chief, Rasha Ajalyaqeen, who translated the final 20 minutes of the speech.
'His interpreter just collapsed – this is the first time I have seen this in 25 years,' a UN Arabic interpreter told The New York Post.
Gadaffi broke protocol and brought his own interpreters from Tripoli for Wednesday’s speech rather than using one of the 25 Arabic translators supplied by the United Nations, staff interpreters said.
Before his one hour and 36 minute long speech he told the U.N. that he was supplying his own French and English interpreters because he would be speaking a special dialect only they would understand, but staff interpreters said he actually spoke standard Arabic.
'This is the best team in the world – most heads of state prefer to use U.N. interpreters because then – no matter what happens – they can blame the interpreter,' another staffer told the paper.
Another Arabic interpreter emphasised with the translator's exasperation.
'He’s not exactly the most lucid speaker.
'It’s not just that what he’s saying is illogical, but the way he’s saying it is bizarre. However, I think I could have made him sound a lot better.' "
I found his suggestion for one Israeli & Palestinian state very interesting whereby having equal rights and the ability to vote within the unison of a democratic nation, could be a possible solution. But obviously a solution like this wouldn't go down well with many, including the security council :/
I loved the fact that he mentioned that Muslims have lived in peace with Jews for centuries. The terror tactics of the holocaust was the wests invention & not ours.
He pointed out the injustice of a bias system that gives favored countries the power of veto and not others countries.
Blatantly stating the huge disadvantage of belonging to an organization that doesn't give equal rights.
He pointed out the hypocrisy of the UN allowing an illegal war on Iraq and holds the perpetrators above justice.
He also mentioned that how was the hanging of Sadam allowed by an unknown party? Why were the men's faces covered, he pointed out that Sadam was a general there are special procedures for the capital punishment of such cases. He demanded an official investigation.
Yes he also called for an official investigation of JFK's assignation, and why was the sniper killed by a Jew before a trail, obviously hinting to the Israeli Mossad involvement.
I heard it live; I need it in Arabic again to translate it myself as many of his very interesting points appear to be lost in the UN translators' version.
An excerpt taken from the very colorful link posted above writes "the permanent members of the security council, or "terror council" as he renamed it. Their veto was tantamount to terrorism. "This is terrorism, like the terrorism of al-Qaida. Terrorism is not just al-Qaida, it takes many forms."
An interesting point, and why not? Just because of the civilized packaging this doesn't mean they're unlikely candidates of terrorism?
Reasoning that goes hand in hand with many who have judged him baed on his 'couture' , as ive noticed many obsessed with Ghaddafi choice of dress rather than what he is saying.
As infamous as we have chosen to portray him. Todays speech coins the meaning behind an old Arab saying :-
"Words of wisdom taken from the lips of a madman".
True that Ghaddafi is known for his eccentrics but I am inclined to admire many of the valid points he made today.
The Che was a Fool, indoctrinated by a communist believer such as Castro. The cuban communist regime and desire to conquer Las Americas has back fired! End of the story!
Chaves is just another rabid puppet of Castro, who think of himself another Simon Bolivar, his time will come eventually to put him out of his misery.
I like Gaddafi he made his Nation a place to be respected, he assumed responsibility by paying millions to the victims of Locker-be plane attack, admitted guilt behind it and he denounce Nuclear proliferation in the name of peace.
What I like the best from Gaddafi, How he ridiculizes other Arab nations, during the Opec meetings by telling them a few truthful facts in their faces.
Life is short. Break all the rules. Forgive quickly.
Kiss slowly, love truly and never regret the things that
made you laugh.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning
Why do you think comparing the man to Che Guevara is a good thing? While I agree with many of his philosophies (as I do Marx's) his methods where less than stellar. If it wasn't for Castro's "success" Nobody would know Che Geuvera's name.
Am watching a spot about his tent right now -- lol
Give me a break! Why does he have to pitch his tent everywhere? It's just him trying to whip up attention. He even had Libyans disguised as Dutch businessmen try to rent a NYC townhouse so he could put his tent up on the roof top terrace! Luckily he met up with Donald Trump who is just as wacky as him and let him pitch his tent on Trump property - lol
Its a medical thing... his doctor, (Dr. Phil,- suggested by Donald Trump) advises him to let out all his SUMGLEB deficit (super universal mega global emotional baggages) for 90 minutes.
king of kings gaddafi
"give the man a half of a fish, you'll feed him for a day. teach the man how to catch fish, be sure to let him sign a franchise clause."
Well governments can give away free medicines - my country does(well a nominal fee is charged, the same for every collection so it could be a whole package of various drugs or a single packet, and if you can't afford it the it is FREE)
No, Gaddafi did not want to pay for it! What Gaddafi wanted was for all the pharmaceutical companies to just give everything away free of charge throughout the world, little thinking that the companies would cease to exist then within days.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
I think that comes from being where he is in terms of his international reception. he has little to lose and doesn't have to play the political game. At the same time, you wouldn't really want all the Arab leaders to be like him... :-P
The thing is, I think he is a smart guy. It just gets lost in the craziness at times. I really wish I had seen it. Now am trying to catch what I can on the various news channels.
Brit, he sure is a loose cannon...I'm not surprised African leaders don't get on with him (some of them do!)...the Arab leaders admire him for his strong words but then are also embarassed by them. HH was there for the 40th anniversary celebrations. He kinda likes him ;)
but......and it's a big but......it comes out of his mouth!...........and let's face, we all know it but don't like to say it, he can't be trusted and he is a self-agrandizing lunitic! :P
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
He ripped right into the UN...some of it I agree with. The UN can be very influenced and weak. What I don't get is how they let him have that length of time...perhaps they were giving him enough rope to hang himself.
I think he is on to something about the swine flu and the role of UN. Way to go Gaddafi.....get it all off your chest. He is speaking on behalf of the common men, and I like that. And phew, I like his statistics too, 60+ wars since UN formation, keep the numbers coming Gaddafi, we need to be reminded sometimes.
From what I saw....he only should have talked for 15min (not the 30 I said in the OP) he went on for 90mins...he kept repeating himself over and over again....He lost his notes amoung dozens of scraps of paper he has laid out in front of him.....went on for 15mins about how everyone must be jet lagged......how all medicines should be free everywhere.....how landmines were a good thing and he would ring his country with them......who killed JFK and Martin Luther King.......and doing that overhead clasped hand thing he does at his rallies.
They had to change translators as he wore the first one out.
There was stunned silence when he finished and walked off.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Adey:) ...I think it's safe to say he got everything off his chest lol. Although fairly rambling with many different topics, I liked the way he talked about 'Arabs' (Muslims) and Jews as brothers/sisters.
Good speech? He spent 15mins rambling on about jet lag!! lol
The Arab commentator on Al Jazeera just shook his head and said Gaddafi has embarressed the whole African and Arab world. An that the Libyan people deserve better than this.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
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I am cool.... I really enjoy Gaddafi's performances; they are great entertainment!
What is your point?
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Cool down PM, we know who are you, and what you are targetting, and wait for the future world that kick out the world police out,
It was not a UN translator - Gaddafi brought his own translator, and he couldn't even get that right. lol
"Colonel Gaddafi's bizarre rant at the UN was met with yawns and disbelief by delegates.
But it was to much for the eccentric Libyan leader's translator who is said to have collapsed with exhaustion during the lengthy diatribe.
The beleaguered interpreter cried 'I just can’t take it any more,' into a live microphone in Arabic after 75 minutes of Gaddafi's ramblings and was replaced by the U.N.’s Arabic section chief, Rasha Ajalyaqeen, who translated the final 20 minutes of the speech.
'His interpreter just collapsed – this is the first time I have seen this in 25 years,' a UN Arabic interpreter told The New York Post.
Gadaffi broke protocol and brought his own interpreters from Tripoli for Wednesday’s speech rather than using one of the 25 Arabic translators supplied by the United Nations, staff interpreters said.
Before his one hour and 36 minute long speech he told the U.N. that he was supplying his own French and English interpreters because he would be speaking a special dialect only they would understand, but staff interpreters said he actually spoke standard Arabic.
'This is the best team in the world – most heads of state prefer to use U.N. interpreters because then – no matter what happens – they can blame the interpreter,' another staffer told the paper.
Another Arabic interpreter emphasised with the translator's exasperation.
'He’s not exactly the most lucid speaker.
'It’s not just that what he’s saying is illogical, but the way he’s saying it is bizarre. However, I think I could have made him sound a lot better.' "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1216068/Gaddafis-translator-collapsed-exhaustion-UN-rant.html
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"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
I found his suggestion for one Israeli & Palestinian state very interesting whereby having equal rights and the ability to vote within the unison of a democratic nation, could be a possible solution. But obviously a solution like this wouldn't go down well with many, including the security council :/
I loved the fact that he mentioned that Muslims have lived in peace with Jews for centuries. The terror tactics of the holocaust was the wests invention & not ours.
He pointed out the injustice of a bias system that gives favored countries the power of veto and not others countries.
Blatantly stating the huge disadvantage of belonging to an organization that doesn't give equal rights.
He pointed out the hypocrisy of the UN allowing an illegal war on Iraq and holds the perpetrators above justice.
He also mentioned that how was the hanging of Sadam allowed by an unknown party? Why were the men's faces covered, he pointed out that Sadam was a general there are special procedures for the capital punishment of such cases. He demanded an official investigation.
Yes he also called for an official investigation of JFK's assignation, and why was the sniper killed by a Jew before a trail, obviously hinting to the Israeli Mossad involvement.
I heard it live; I need it in Arabic again to translate it myself as many of his very interesting points appear to be lost in the UN translators' version.
An excerpt taken from the very colorful link posted above writes "the permanent members of the security council, or "terror council" as he renamed it. Their veto was tantamount to terrorism. "This is terrorism, like the terrorism of al-Qaida. Terrorism is not just al-Qaida, it takes many forms."
An interesting point, and why not? Just because of the civilized packaging this doesn't mean they're unlikely candidates of terrorism?
Reasoning that goes hand in hand with many who have judged him baed on his 'couture' , as ive noticed many obsessed with Ghaddafi choice of dress rather than what he is saying.
As infamous as we have chosen to portray him. Todays speech coins the meaning behind an old Arab saying :-
"Words of wisdom taken from the lips of a madman".
True that Ghaddafi is known for his eccentrics but I am inclined to admire many of the valid points he made today.
The Che was a Fool, indoctrinated by a communist believer such as Castro. The cuban communist regime and desire to conquer Las Americas has back fired! End of the story!
Chaves is just another rabid puppet of Castro, who think of himself another Simon Bolivar, his time will come eventually to put him out of his misery.
I like Gaddafi he made his Nation a place to be respected, he assumed responsibility by paying millions to the victims of Locker-be plane attack, admitted guilt behind it and he denounce Nuclear proliferation in the name of peace.
What I like the best from Gaddafi, How he ridiculizes other Arab nations, during the Opec meetings by telling them a few truthful facts in their faces.
Life is short. Break all the rules. Forgive quickly.
Kiss slowly, love truly and never regret the things that
made you laugh.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning
I always wanted to look like Einstein and he is a Jew!
That is hillarious :D
'Muammar Gaddafi Duck - FOR IT WAS HE - grabbed his 15 minutes of fame at the UN building in New York today and ran with it.'
Sign this journo up for the Gulf Times or the Pen.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Only dead people are good people.
Che was cool! We all wanted to look like him ......In the old days :O)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/23/gaddafi-un-speech
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Why do you think comparing the man to Che Guevara is a good thing? While I agree with many of his philosophies (as I do Marx's) his methods where less than stellar. If it wasn't for Castro's "success" Nobody would know Che Geuvera's name.
Che was handsome.
Gaddafi --- NOT!
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
The ugly and the beautiful.
Look at the semblance
Unless the U.N does away with the veto system and actually functions as a "democratic" unit , it should be abolished..
and that the UN needs a mechanism to enforce their rulings.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
lol
I guess that would make him ineligible as President! :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
check out this link:
Attitude like this is just one reason why he people outside the Muslim world have problems with him and people like him.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
very proletariat and minimal!
Gaddafi is just aging misguided flashiness... lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I guess it's the bad dye and the unruly style poking out from under his cap.... but he's no worse than Ronald Reagan in my view :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
PM, I dare say he is inspired by Che Guevara! Atleast the fashion sense!
Not my cup of tea AT ALL but he's not bad for a bloke in his 70s, save the bad hair dye and style. At least he's trying not to let himself go lol.
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I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Ugh. Too jet lagged to pay attention to that
He hasn't aged well ... :-/
And his outfit isn't very interesting... lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I have never found a way to like The Donald. He is pure arrogance.
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PM, but now Donald is denying knowledge that his 'people' knew that the request came from Gaddafi's 'people'. I ask you!
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Listen to this! Is it bad translation, or he really said those at the UN?
The choice of words may be very amateurish,the presentation may be bad, but what he wanted to say is not untrue!
Am watching a spot about his tent right now -- lol
Give me a break! Why does he have to pitch his tent everywhere? It's just him trying to whip up attention. He even had Libyans disguised as Dutch businessmen try to rent a NYC townhouse so he could put his tent up on the roof top terrace! Luckily he met up with Donald Trump who is just as wacky as him and let him pitch his tent on Trump property - lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
No, no, PM, he is a bit too wacky for me long-term lol.
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I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Its a medical thing... his doctor, (Dr. Phil,- suggested by Donald Trump) advises him to let out all his SUMGLEB deficit (super universal mega global emotional baggages) for 90 minutes.
king of kings gaddafi
"give the man a half of a fish, you'll feed him for a day. teach the man how to catch fish, be sure to let him sign a franchise clause."
re the medicines
Well governments can give away free medicines - my country does(well a nominal fee is charged, the same for every collection so it could be a whole package of various drugs or a single packet, and if you can't afford it the it is FREE)
No, Gaddafi did not want to pay for it! What Gaddafi wanted was for all the pharmaceutical companies to just give everything away free of charge throughout the world, little thinking that the companies would cease to exist then within days.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
I think that comes from being where he is in terms of his international reception. he has little to lose and doesn't have to play the political game. At the same time, you wouldn't really want all the Arab leaders to be like him... :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Me too PM. In between all the rubbish, there is a good point or two.
And you have to admire his bravado. As an Arab leader, he says what no other Arab leader will sometimes. -------------------------------------
And I find him really entertaining :-)
The thing is, I think he is a smart guy. It just gets lost in the craziness at times. I really wish I had seen it. Now am trying to catch what I can on the various news channels.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Alexa, he was wearing the latest Libyan male haute couture...and before he went on he was sporting really funky shades. What a dude.
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And all medicines SHOULD be free -- rofl
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
He's just mad because they wouldn't let him in New Jersey :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
So was it worse than the Kanye West/What's her face country chick speech at the MTV Awards???
I've been on a plane for 14 hours. Ignore me.
German TV called it a 'chaotic speech'. It's their opinion.
so what heero , it is his choice
some people don't believe in many things
and this guy has his point of view
;)
peace V
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090921/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran
The world gets better everyday. Meh.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
LOLS
they prevented him to put his tent near the UN building
this guy is really funny
as he said in the arab union in doha 9 moths before
"i am the king of kings, Amir el-momeneen(prince of all Muslims, Sultan of Africa ....."
it is great to have self-steam but not like this
LOL
Brit, he sure is a loose cannon...I'm not surprised African leaders don't get on with him (some of them do!)...the Arab leaders admire him for his strong words but then are also embarassed by them. HH was there for the 40th anniversary celebrations. He kinda likes him ;)
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Gaddafi portrays himself as pro African, yet the African leaders don't get on with him.
Arab leaders are nervous around him, yet like to fete him..
All very confusing..
Maybe, but he says what others are afraid to and some of it needs to be said.
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but......and it's a big but......it comes out of his mouth!...........and let's face, we all know it but don't like to say it, he can't be trusted and he is a self-agrandizing lunitic! :P
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Brit, Africa needs a voice although not necessarily his all the time. Western media is barely interested in Africa although they pertain to be.
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He ripped right into the UN...some of it I agree with. The UN can be very influenced and weak. What I don't get is how they let him have that length of time...perhaps they were giving him enough rope to hang himself.
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I think he is on to something about the swine flu and the role of UN. Way to go Gaddafi.....get it all off your chest. He is speaking on behalf of the common men, and I like that. And phew, I like his statistics too, 60+ wars since UN formation, keep the numbers coming Gaddafi, we need to be reminded sometimes.
*Bunga*
Especially regarding the U.N's inability to resolve conflicts and the issue of the veto rights.....
He also harped on about Africa as usual....
At least he livened it up :)
From what I saw....he only should have talked for 15min (not the 30 I said in the OP) he went on for 90mins...he kept repeating himself over and over again....He lost his notes amoung dozens of scraps of paper he has laid out in front of him.....went on for 15mins about how everyone must be jet lagged......how all medicines should be free everywhere.....how landmines were a good thing and he would ring his country with them......who killed JFK and Martin Luther King.......and doing that overhead clasped hand thing he does at his rallies.
They had to change translators as he wore the first one out.
There was stunned silence when he finished and walked off.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Adey:) ...I think it's safe to say he got everything off his chest lol. Although fairly rambling with many different topics, I liked the way he talked about 'Arabs' (Muslims) and Jews as brothers/sisters.
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What he did? Any clue?
What was the speech about?
Good speech? He spent 15mins rambling on about jet lag!! lol
The Arab commentator on Al Jazeera just shook his head and said Gaddafi has embarressed the whole African and Arab world. An that the Libyan people deserve better than this.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
summary for all
Very interesting Speech, I wonder what he is on today .