Whyte...exactely...one puts one foot in front of another and walks across....maybe we must hire special teachers for this one...oh wait...that would be the State of Qatar's responsibility.;)
Ok Foot Bridges will only work if they were covered, in the summer heat it is not nice to walk in open.
It would be appropriate to build under-road underpasses or Subways which will be more favourable in the summer months and more likely to be used than FootBridge.
Educated people can display ignorance when their comfort removes them the ability to understand others who didn’t have their luck!
I wonder if certain people here (who only drive around Doha) were on the shoes of those who must walk with no other choice, would be so inconsiderate and blindly judgmental!
Put them on the streets of Doha (on D ring as the example pointed out) and see if they would walk half way along the 1km road to across it on one of its ends (one end being a roundabout which is never 100% safe for a pedestrian).
I wonder if those people were in the situation of those who can’t afford a car, they would sound so undisturbed and egotistical about the safety risk pedestrians face by necessity on a daily basis here in Doha!
Yes, a government has the obligation to ensure the safety of its citizens. Sure Qatar can learn a few things with other (more developed) countries. It sure can afford it.
Building a country with practically façades only is not how developed countries do!
A developed country provides all the hard and soft conditions to ensure pedestrian’s safety and full mobility (including those in wheel chairs, totally neglected by Qatar).
Some here come from more privileged countries that already have these conditions in place but it seams that either they take them for granted and do not understand that those conditions were planned and implemented by their local authorities in accordance with the local realities and needs.
Yes, a government has the obligation to provide the safety conditions to ensure that pedestrians (including handicapped people) walk and across streets safely…
As mentioned, here even not so rich countries do so, why not the richest country in the world?!
I just do not believe it is Qatar's responsibility to educate people on how and when to cross a road.
I have, as many other people have, seen exactly those people cross the road right next to a foot bridge. Numerous times. I have also seen them cross the road a few meters away from a pedestrian crossing. So, for me, foot bridges are useless.
and underpasses in our country. Not all but many specifically in the business district of MAkati. Since Qatar is relatively a rich country, escalators is just a small price for such!
Best solution is to have an underpass..why if underpass in Dubai not gets polluted, nothing illegal happens, always clean....then why can't Qatar maintain it...
Walking on the roads is a nightmare at the moment, crossing roads really difficult. I don't know about the number of accidents but it will ease the pain of some pedestrians :(
As for reducing the number of accidents, there are many things as Nic mentioned.
Safety on city roads is not improved just by building cross bridges.
There are many other things a city must consider: infrastructures, enforcement of adequate driving rules (making it compulsory to stop at pedestrian crossing, more pedestrian crosses, education/ awareness of drivers and pedestrians (taking into account their profile) and maybe more 1000 etcs...
It’s like starting to build a country from scratch and all they achieved here is very sketchy (apart from the hallow facades)!
Yes, it would reduce over a period of time when its advantage starts sinking in and its usage becomes a norm. Moreover, I would add, to give it more sting, that authorities declare a fine on jaywalkers as they had implemented in Abu Dhabi.
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Whyte...exactely...one puts one foot in front of another and walks across....maybe we must hire special teachers for this one...oh wait...that would be the State of Qatar's responsibility.;)
So???
Teaching people how to use foot bridges isn't rocket science.
Aye Aye then you will have to teach these Pedestrians how to use subways and footbridges.
It's all about awareness and education
There are no covered bus stops right now so don't think covered foot bridges are going to appear anytime soon.
This country is not meant for walking. Period
Ok Foot Bridges will only work if they were covered, in the summer heat it is not nice to walk in open.
It would be appropriate to build under-road underpasses or Subways which will be more favourable in the summer months and more likely to be used than FootBridge.
Over bridges and fines together might work.
Ya there is always water outside one of your neighbour's house :P
My (Qatari) neighbor has his car washed by his driver every morning right in front of his house. (At least I do it behind closed doors).
Doha is not Dubai, WK!
LP I have seen people getting fined for washing their cars in Dubai.
Even poor countries like the Philippines provide foot bridges for pedestrians.
There are also fines for washing a car with drinking water. Anybody had to pay the 10.000 Riyals yet?
Fines are everywhere, but nothing is enforced.
there are fines in Dubai if you dont cross the roads at the marked places.
Qatar can afford it but do they want it?
Educated people can display ignorance when their comfort removes them the ability to understand others who didn’t have their luck!
I wonder if certain people here (who only drive around Doha) were on the shoes of those who must walk with no other choice, would be so inconsiderate and blindly judgmental!
Put them on the streets of Doha (on D ring as the example pointed out) and see if they would walk half way along the 1km road to across it on one of its ends (one end being a roundabout which is never 100% safe for a pedestrian).
I wonder if those people were in the situation of those who can’t afford a car, they would sound so undisturbed and egotistical about the safety risk pedestrians face by necessity on a daily basis here in Doha!
Yes, a government has the obligation to ensure the safety of its citizens. Sure Qatar can learn a few things with other (more developed) countries. It sure can afford it.
Building a country with practically façades only is not how developed countries do!
A developed country provides all the hard and soft conditions to ensure pedestrian’s safety and full mobility (including those in wheel chairs, totally neglected by Qatar).
Some here come from more privileged countries that already have these conditions in place but it seams that either they take them for granted and do not understand that those conditions were planned and implemented by their local authorities in accordance with the local realities and needs.
Yes, a government has the obligation to provide the safety conditions to ensure that pedestrians (including handicapped people) walk and across streets safely…
As mentioned, here even not so rich countries do so, why not the richest country in the world?!
In Saudi, they have bridges for Camels to cross the road :O)
unless it comes with fines, people will not tend to use it.
in england they have made a footbridge for rodents to cross the road...and rodents supposedly, use it !!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/08/25/council-pay-190-000-for-mice-bridge-over-road-115875-22511990/
qatar should eradicate 200thousand insurance to those who cross the road and being killed...no footbridge needed....
question and answer portion!
My answer is YES!
And BTW, the topic is about footbridges, not the users? I thought the topic was about how to help? Or at least give sensible ideas?
oh wait...maybe hammer some common sense into those people's heads....
flor, no, none of my business. I am not a citizen of this country.
something worth considering?
I just do not believe it is Qatar's responsibility to educate people on how and when to cross a road.
I have, as many other people have, seen exactly those people cross the road right next to a foot bridge. Numerous times. I have also seen them cross the road a few meters away from a pedestrian crossing. So, for me, foot bridges are useless.
and underpasses in our country. Not all but many specifically in the business district of MAkati. Since Qatar is relatively a rich country, escalators is just a small price for such!
Flor, sure, they also can have some servants to carry people across....;)
for going up only! And put shades! They can afford it!
Magis, Bridges are simpler to construct and will not disrupt traffic as much.
Best solution is to have an underpass..why if underpass in Dubai not gets polluted, nothing illegal happens, always clean....then why can't Qatar maintain it...
Agreed Non-Merci
I have seen people walk across all the traffic on Al Wabb when they are only 20metres from the traffic lights.
I won't use them because I don't like heights....
Riyadh has subways. They are all closed as "illegal" things can take place in them.
YES, it will save the lives of the people with common sense.
DP
it may very well reduce the number of accidents and deaths. Of course fools will be fools but you can't save everyone!
Building foot bridges will definitely help , and a public awareness campaign to use them might help as a long term measure.
Walking on the roads is a nightmare at the moment, crossing roads really difficult. I don't know about the number of accidents but it will ease the pain of some pedestrians :(
As for reducing the number of accidents, there are many things as Nic mentioned.
Subways are dangerous and they get dirty quickly. Normally rape takes place in subways.
Why not subways rather than foot bridges. This, i think will be much climate friendly for qatar as compared to footbridges.
I was in RM but I could not resist posting since no one has considered it in the discussion.;)
nomerci,
Safety on city roads is not improved just by building cross bridges.
There are many other things a city must consider: infrastructures, enforcement of adequate driving rules (making it compulsory to stop at pedestrian crossing, more pedestrian crosses, education/ awareness of drivers and pedestrians (taking into account their profile) and maybe more 1000 etcs...
It’s like starting to build a country from scratch and all they achieved here is very sketchy (apart from the hallow facades)!
if people won't use footbridges to cross the street, fine them for jaywalking, or jail them for a day, the stricter the rules, the more lives saved.
but as Brit said..
some idiots will find some idoitic excuse to skip the little effort...
Yes.
And in addition, it would encourage people to walk. i know i would, since i hate crossing roads.
they should build high fences on the bridge's edges also, so idiot people wont "accidently" fall and get hit by a car , again
Yes, it would reduce over a period of time when its advantage starts sinking in and its usage becomes a norm. Moreover, I would add, to give it more sting, that authorities declare a fine on jaywalkers as they had implemented in Abu Dhabi.
You forget the climate, brit. In the summer they will always try the (dangerous) shortcut.
Yes! There will always be idiots, but most people have common sense.
They would also need to build high fences along the roads. Then the guys would be forced to use the bridges. Without it: NO.
YEs, it would be less to some extend.
if the pedestiran wont use those bridges then wat will they use ? Hand gliders ? :(