Do friendships end?

svelte_saggi
By svelte_saggi

I didn't think it possible until QL happened.

At this point of time,I am reminded of the wood carved plaque that was gifted to me on my birthday years ago by my classmates at University that reads "To The Best Friend Anybody Could Possibly Have.We Love You And Are Proud To Have You In Our Life"

I remember I cried when I got that gift that day.And I cried a couple of days ago too.Because I had apparently ended many friendships and had been hurt beyond repair by people I genuinely cared about.Who am I to blame?Only myself.

I have heard a saying that "Relationships always end in a bad way...or they do not end at all"....but I have also heard that "You cannot say you've lost a friend. If a friendship is capable of ending, it is because it never existed."(Quote by Mayza Blanco Martinez)

I have been pondering on this over the past few days and have been doing an introspection.

Who is a real friend?

Is he/she someone who...
> is with you in your joys and sorrows?
> supports you no matter what happens?
> shares your wavelength of thought?
> trusts you 100%?
> gives equal importance and sincerity to the friendship like you do?
> who loves your family like his/her own?
> doesn't let petty fights grow into mammoth proportions and eventually end up hurting you?
> believes that the friendship he/she shares with you is too precious to be lost?

I seek answers.

Not for any ulterior motive....it's just a humble attempt to help myself in my thought process and to know the PoV of a wider majority of people coming from various backgrounds.

Disclaimer:I request all the people who comment on this thread to kindly refrain from hurtling insults at my family as usual.It is just a request.I am aware that I cannot control anybody's thoughts,words or deeds except my own.Thank you.

By anonymous• 17 Feb 2010 14:33
anonymous

Friends keep changing...its very rare to have friends for life...

...as we move through different orbits...we pick up friends from who are nearby us...and loose those who are out of range....either they move away...or we move away....

Its not like one fine day you two stop talking or something....

By svelte_saggi• 17 Feb 2010 07:48
svelte_saggi

no,no....you have not offended me.like i said,this was a first time experience for me.i have seen friendships falling apart all around me but i had thought that it will not happen in my life.i had been too proud that i had chosen the right friends all along.it just came as a rather rude shock.that's all.and i have been loved all my life for my character and for what i am.when i get chided and insulted for that very reason,it was a shock.the bubbly and jovial 'svelte' QL once knew is now gone....thanks to everyone here.i have been made to understand in the worst way possible that an online forum is exactly the place where you can never be just yourself.

thank you very much for taking time to reply to my thread.

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By Nic• 17 Feb 2010 07:06
Nic

Svelte,

I hope you don’t get offended, but I have to be sincere with you. Your question either reveals a certain naïveté or you were just in the mood of posting something trivial.

Just in case you don’t know, remember that nothing lasts forever. Yes, not even relationships between friends. At the end, everybody dies alone.

Until there, be strong and keep smiling as much as possible, because life will often give you reasons to stop!

By svelte_saggi• 16 Feb 2010 09:11
svelte_saggi

i'd like to take this opportunity to thank one and all who have taken time to reply to my thread.i have read all your comments and i must say that i have been much benefited by the positive criticism.as for the negative criticism,i shall take it in my stride.thanks once again.may God bless you all.

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By Mehnis• 15 Feb 2010 16:26
Mehnis

Life is just a short sojourn in this physical form. We come here for experience and learning to attain higher levels of spirituality. Who we meet here, make freinds or live with are the support systems to complete our tasks here. No one stays for ever. Nothing belongs for ever. Friends are the blessings that remain with you for that particular period and then they go their own way to accomplish what they have come here for.

It is rare that friends remain for a lifetime but could happen to some. Bless them for the support, laughter, fun and the tears they have shared with you. Give thanks for what they have been for you.

I trust you will understand this:

People

come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.

When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person.

When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually

to meet a need you have expressed.

They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provideyou with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may

seem like a godsend and they are.

They are there for the reason you need them to be.

Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time,this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end.

Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away.

Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand.

What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done.

The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because

your turn has come to share, grow or learn.

They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh.

They may teach you something you have never done.

They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy.

Be lieve it, it is real. But only for a season.

LIFETIME

relationships teach you lifetime lessons, things

you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation.

Your job is to accept the lesson,

love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life.

It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

Thank them for being a part of my life, whether they

were a reason, a season or a lifetime.

Thank them all for being with you and standing by you all thru your life...

The Reason, Season or Lifetime...

By Aunty virus• 15 Feb 2010 16:01
Aunty virus

SS..Don’t know why or who killed you or what happened to you in last couple of days..Positive change is always good for life!

I see the symptoms of bipolar disorder in your threads, I can be wrong also..

• euphoria or irritability

• excessive talk; racing thoughts

• inflated self-esteem

• unusual energy; less need for sleep

• impulsiveness, a reckless pursuit of gratification.

If I offended you in the past, I am sorry. I was just replying to you. Nothing personal.

Btw, I didn’t sent you any PMs..lol

By labda06• 15 Feb 2010 14:07
labda06

FS, Saggi and chocoholic - you're welcome :)

By blablabla• 15 Feb 2010 14:03
blablabla

I think there are levels of friendship. When I was in my last office here in Doha itself I had very good friends but we are rarely in touch now. But when we meet we do recall some of the best things we shared. Friendship is not a lifelong commitment. What you are asking for is a close relation, a bond or a friend in need ( not neccessarily for me though)...

By chocoholic• 15 Feb 2010 13:53
chocoholic

labda thank you for that

--All you really need is love, but a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt-- Lucy Van Pelt

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 13:52
svelte_saggi

thank you drmana :-)

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By drmana• 15 Feb 2010 13:41
drmana

I have said before and I say this again :" We are not here in a mission to please everyone". If someone does not agree to what we are, its their problem. As long as we are happy with what we are, it is all that matters.

Go out with people who matter to you, spend time with family and cherish true friends you have. Life is too short to repent for things that are already history.....

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 12:20
svelte_saggi

thank you so much for that.will remember to take a print-out of that and paste it on the wall of my room.

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By happygolucky• 15 Feb 2010 12:17
happygolucky

"I'm glad you haven't but that doesn't mean you never will"....thanks for your well wishes... you just proved my point..:)

_______________________________________

One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 12:15
svelte_saggi

if i say that i'm feeling low,that would be an understatement.i've just had a rude shock,to be honest.events happening over the past few days....they have changed me as a person.i have always been a crusader of the phrase "Be Yourself" but i was painfully forced to not to be just that.i am not here seeking attention,sympathy,acceptance,etc.i just thought of QL as a place where i can be "myself".i have been proved wrong.i understand that i have been the cause for many arguments and unknowingly i have hurt the sentiments of many people.please,trust me,they were not intentional.i follow very few principles in real life and of them,the one that i religiously follow is "never do unto others what you wouldn't want others to do unto you".

anyway,the SS all of you knew no longer exists.i used to proudly say that my mind stopped growing at the age of 21.guess i just grew up suddenly.

thanks a lot everyone :-)

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By Formatted Soul• 15 Feb 2010 12:09
Formatted Soul

labda...thx for sharing...

By labda06• 15 Feb 2010 12:05
labda06

There are people who can walk away from you.

And hear me when I tell you this! When people can walk away from you: let them walk.

I don't want you to try to talk another person into staying with you, loving you, calling you, caring about you, coming to see you, staying attached to you. I mean hang up the phone.

When people can walk away from you let them walk. Your destiny is never tied to anybody that left.

People leave you because they are not joined to you. And if they are not joined to you, you can't make them stay.

LET THEM GO!

And it doesn't mean that they are a bad person it just means that their part in the story is over. And you've got to know when people's part in your story is over so that you don't keep trying to raise the dead.

You've got to know when it's dead.

You've got to know when it's over. Let me tell you something. I've got the gift of goodbye. It's the tenth spiritual gift, I believe in goodbye. It's not that I'm hateful, it's that I'm faithful, and I know whatever God means for me to have He'll give it to me. And if it takes too much sweat I don't need it. Stop begging people to stay.

LET THEM GO!

If you are holding on to something that doesn't belong to you and was never intended for your life, then you need to...

LET THEM GO!

If you are holding on to past hurts and pains...

LET THEM GO!

If someone can't treat you right, love you back, and see your worth...

LET THEM GO!

If someone has angered you...

LET THEM GO!

If you are holding on to some thoughts of evil and revenge...

LET THEM GO!

If you are involved in a wrong relationship or addiction...

LET THEM GO!

If you are holding on to a job that no longer meets your needs or talents...

LET THEM GO!

If you have a bad attitude...

LET THEM GO!

If you keep judging others to make yourself feel better...

LET THEM GO!

If you are struggling with the healing of a broken relationship.......

LET THEM GO!

If you keep trying to help someone who won't even try to help themselves...

LET THEM GO!

If you're feeling depressed and stressed...

LET THEM GO!

Get Right or Get Left, think about it, and then...

LET THEM GO!

By Jaryz• 15 Feb 2010 12:05
Jaryz

Everything in our lives ends.... there is no such thing as permanent....no such thing as forever...no such thing as 100%..no such thing as perfect.... We only say all these things thru our feelings, thru our hearts....

There will always be one thing permanent and will always stay in our lives...the name is CHANGE ;)

By labda06• 15 Feb 2010 12:03
labda06

Saggi, my Dad always used to say many friends are like "ships passing in the night". Personally I agree with all the qualities you listed a true friend should have except for "shares your wavelength of thought" cause I love the diversity of my friends...we dont always get along and we agree to disagree.

Yes friendships end. Like Olive said people change. Iv been fortunate in that I'm still very close to the close friends I had 15, 10 years ago. Yet there are some who I thought at the time would be friends for life...and they are not in my life. So, dont take it too hard Saggi...I'll post something in a bit called the Gift of Goodbye which might speak to you :)

By Qatari-femme• 15 Feb 2010 12:02
Qatari-femme

If the friendship was based on interests yes it will end,sure there are ups and downs in any relationship, however the person is smart enough they can overcome such problems.

''Ask me NO questions, & I'll tell you NO lies :)''

By Qatari-femme• 15 Feb 2010 12:02
Qatari-femme

If the friendship was based on interests yes it will end,sure there are ups and downs in any relationship, however the person is smart enough they can overcome such problems.

''Ask me NO questions, & I'll tell you NO lies :)''

By drmana• 15 Feb 2010 11:59
drmana

Saggi, still feeling low by the war of words in your previous thread, are you? Come on..cheer up.

It was not friendship if it ended. Heard somewhere that god created friendship to offer us the choice to choose who we wanted to be with as we cannot choose the family we are born in or relatives.

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 11:58
svelte_saggi

yeah....possibly it is true.people we loved do change into people we dislike over time.and then they seem like total strangers.

i repeat what i had said in an earlier thread.a relationship is like a mirror.once it cracks,it can't be repaired.okay,people can still see themselves in it.but it loses it's original beauty.

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By s_isale• 15 Feb 2010 11:55
s_isale

Some friendships end beyond repair.

Some go dormant for a long time.

Some remain forever..

By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 11:53
anonymous

Most people walk in and out of your life...

but FRIENDS leave footprints in your heart

... BAADSHAH ...

By Olive• 15 Feb 2010 11:53
Olive

Did I say I don't have anyone in my life that I can call friend? Of course I do. However, I've had good friendships end as well. I'm glad you haven't but that doesn't mean you never will.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

By happygolucky• 15 Feb 2010 11:52
happygolucky

FS...really...:)

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One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By Eagley• 15 Feb 2010 11:52
Eagley

No. If it ended, it was never there in the 1st place.

"sometimes some people in a fit of fury/anger say things or do things that cannot be taken back.by the time they repent, the damage would have been done already.they say Time heals all wounds but i would like to add that "the scars still remain,depending on how deep the wound was....remaining as a rude reminder of what happened"

If there was forgiveness, there would be no scars being carried on. What was said, however hurtful, would be like water of a duck's back. It's either forgiveness or old age...

And talking about duck.. when's our next roast duck dinner?...oh, am I off tangent again?

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Beauty lies in the eyes of the beerholder.

By happygolucky• 15 Feb 2010 11:51
happygolucky

Someone who doesnt agree to our POV or who may have a different experience in life or who may have entirely different approach towards life and relationships...we end up calling them naive, insensible, etc etc and then the same persons talk on issues of friendship as if they are the ultimate authority on that ....is it so difficult then to say who is naive and why they dont have anyone in their life whom they can call 'friend" ???

________________________________________

One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By nicaq25• 15 Feb 2010 11:46
nicaq25

however I'm certain too that it can be mended, only pride holds them back from doing so.

By Formatted Soul• 15 Feb 2010 11:45
Formatted Soul

Happy...why do you always steal my thoughts...:) lol

Something I wrote on another thread..

Friendship is a feeling of ease and emotional shelter with a person.... It is when you do not have to think and watch your words before talking…. It is when someone knows you better than yourself and assures to be in your side in emotional crisis..and someone you can DEPEND on.. It is when you can fight and patch up with a better understanding……

By Black buller• 15 Feb 2010 11:39
Rating: 4/5
Black buller

that freindship changes over time... i mean i had best freinds in school, but then i changed my school.. so we had to move on, they are still my friends, but because i have been away for a long time, and they have changed over that period of time, so we have different priorites/ attitudes and mindsets now.. same thing goes for university.. you make a best friend, he changes his 'major',and then you slowly loose him.. i think its because people change with time... plus i guess todays friendship is much more fragile, than it used to be for older generations, because they had gone through tough times togather, not like us.... Now most of the friends are just good for talking, romaing around or going for coffee... call them when you need help, and they'll scatter ..

By Olive• 15 Feb 2010 11:34
Olive

"sometimes some people in a fit of fury/anger say things or do things that cannot be taken back.by the time they repent, the damage would have been done already.they say Time heals all wounds but i would like to add that "the scars still remain,depending on how deep the wound was....remaining as a rude reminder of what happened"

Agree completely with that Svelte. I think it's very naiive to say that friendships don't end. People grow and change, sometimes into people we don't like.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

By happygolucky• 15 Feb 2010 11:31
happygolucky

SS.. I can only say dont get mired by words...friendship is much above all those things... its a feeling of comfort, trust, understanding which comes from within ...no words or suggestions can get you that nor does it happen overnight... one needs to nurture it with patience...and each one will have reached that stage following a different route...and not necessarily the two would have the same wavelength, need not be loving each others falmilies, may not have same opinion on issues and may talk straight at times which may 'seem' to be hurting but then that is what a friend is for who can talk straight and not what you want to hear else it becomes a drag on him. ________________________________________

One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By leelah• 15 Feb 2010 11:30
leelah

NO doubt you must be one.

sometime it happens a little friction causes so much pain but friendship never ends if it ended then it wasn't a real one to start with.

By plushed• 15 Feb 2010 11:23
plushed

for me, friendship never ends.. even when people grow apart from each other, the feeling of being friends is still there.

the categories you said, it differs from person to person.. but a friend for me is someone i can be silly, serious, dumb, be weird with, not see or talk to her for years but when i get the chance to do so, it seems like it was just a day that i havent seen her (the comforting feeling hasn't changed), and .. its not about how she trusts me, its about how I trust her. :)

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"What they see and say about me does not define who I am in reality. What’s perceived is a mere surface, what’s said is mere opinion; for what’s inevitable is hidden within the depths of my soul. Only I can tell my own authenticity."

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 11:14
svelte_saggi

i guess the gift i mentioned about speaks for itself.i am a person who values friendship a lot.

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By svelte_saggi• 15 Feb 2010 11:13
svelte_saggi

sometimes some people in a fit of fury/anger say things or do things that cannot be taken back.by the time they repent, the damage would have been done already.they say Time heals all wounds but i would like to add that "the scars still remain,depending on how deep the wound was....remaining as a rude reminder of what happened"

"You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”

~ Amrta Shrii Shrii Anandamurti(Indian born Guru, 1921-1990)

By leelah• 15 Feb 2010 11:11
leelah

be a friend.

By afrinnabees• 15 Feb 2010 11:01
afrinnabees

Frienship never COmes to an End..Though it may have a long break....Though it may hurt u sometime..Though it Tastes bitter some time....

It never comes to an end..Either one of us will surely think of our friendship as u thought yesterday ur friends must be thinking of u..so try contacting thm....Feel ur missed frnds...surely u can feel ur friendship too

By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 10:55
anonymous

I request all the people who comment on this thread to kindly refrain from hurtling insults at my family as usual.It is just a request.I am aware that I cannot control anybody's thoughts,words or deeds except my own.Thank you.

WHAT IS THIS LUV, WHO IS DOING THESE BAD THINGS TO U?

Any way in this world of materialist achievements,and i-got-to- go- ahead attitude and moreover if we are a person who keeps emotional scores its difficult to see the above mentioned selfless love even at home!!!@ Let alone friends.

You can be HOT or COLD to me, spare me LUKEWARM!!!!

By Sonika• 15 Feb 2010 10:53
Rating: 5/5
Sonika

Friendship never ends...................depends on what kinda relationship u have. I have my best friend, who never sides with me at all times, if i am wrong she says i m wrong, if i am right, she sides by me.

We have a love n love relationship. This comes where u can critisize each other n take it positively, fight n make up, friendship n love grows stronger. U just need to be patient and try n work out ur own life first. I have 4 very very close friends and no matter how far we are, n no matter if one keeps in touch or not, the time we all meet up, is the best n it is a blast.

We remember the old times n laugh our heads off, n the love grows more, bonds grow stronger.

U just need the right person to be ur friend.

Cheers.

By LeBaNeSeMaN• 15 Feb 2010 10:50
LeBaNeSeMaN

It needs like everything in this world.

By Victory_278692• 15 Feb 2010 10:48
Victory_278692

you may feel low today....Tomorrow won't be the same!

It is temporary state of mind :D

By happygolucky• 15 Feb 2010 10:45
happygolucky

Nope, if it ended it was not friendship, everything else may end but not friendship.

There may not be friends for one in this world, but there can be a friend and I am blessed that I have one person in this world whom I can call "My Friend".

________________________________________

One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By blue_rose• 15 Feb 2010 10:37
blue_rose

i dont think freindship ends..it goes on..no matter wether friends fight,talks rudely,or make u sad, but there is always a time comes when friends talk, smile,share many problems discuss n solve..share happiness n sadness

By Olive• 15 Feb 2010 10:10
Rating: 4/5
Olive

Yes friendships end, just like marriages do and even family ties. If anything friendships are the least permanent of human relationships. People come into our lives for a certain time and then they go out, sometimes it's sad, other times you can't wait to see their big fat arse walk away.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 10:04
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

There are no friends in this world..

**** Aal Izz Well****

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