Do Men Inevitably Wander ?

Morning all

I'm back to defend myself after being put in my place, thank-you Scarlett. I think cheating on someone is a despicable act and would never do it myself, it's against my principles. Sex in a longterm relationship can be the most fufilling thing ever, and I did mention before the support that comes with it.

We may wander...

But we really wonder...

You can't teach experience...

My parents are still smitten with eachother, and neither of them have ever considered cheating, even after 20 years of marriage. Sure they have their ups and downs, but thats normal because theres no such thing as a a perfect marriage. I believe my dad will always be loyal to my mother, and vice versa, because that is what marriage is about. For better or worse, through sickness and health- they will always be together.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, sometimes I can be a complete technology idiot :D ( or just a general idiot lol)

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

i think you were using the wrong url

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this is what it looks like... just remove the two * symbol

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Hey! It worked for u! I tried again, didn't work...guess flickr just doesn't like me tonight! Thanks for posting it! Now u understand what the pic is ? hehe

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

well right now it says the image is private... so even if you post it right no one will see it...

but you need to right click on the image it self and go to view image and it will post a page with just that image on it... use that url to put in the brackets i gave you

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I sent u the url...but I still wana learn how to do it by myself! Grrrr...

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

just post the url and ill put it up for ya hun

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did it work

hahahahahahaha

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Let's see if it worked...

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

insert the url were it says insert url here then remove all the * symbols... **

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I love it! But how do u add an image to a post ? *starts pressing random buttons in hope that some technology fairy would come and post the image*

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

what so uh... what the heck is your new avatar picture... im kinda lost with that one

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Darn u caught me, the "[Let's not get blocked by the Telco]" was only a figure of my imagination...silly me!

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

sure sure... excuses excuses hahahahah

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Yeah I meant to write that, but apparently "Telco" didn't like it! Well they can kiss my @ss! Grrrr...

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

hhahahahaha b!tch slapped... hahahahahaha

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Well that's different swiss, if he's cheating cause he can't control the zipper on his pants...then he's an a**hole who doesn't deserve the time of day! I really think men can control themselves if they wanted to, it's just that it seems easier for them not to and then go blame it on someone else.

Boy will always be boys, until they get b*tch slapped a few times, end up sleeping on the couch for weeks or get kicked out...then they finally grow up and realise that they've been idiots! haha Gotta love 'em!

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

i know but makes me mad to think in so many mens eyes woman are only a play toy and they could have everyone.grrrrrrrrrr.i have seen so many woman/wifes/girls suffering and being deeply hurted because he was cheating them.when they cry in your arms you feel so helpless because you cant take this pain away of them as much as you would.

Ah swissgirl, there's alot of "should"s in life. I should've studied more for the exam, I should've gone on a diet, I should've done alot of things...but in reality sh*t happens!

Yes they should've talked, but they didn't cause they were so preoccupied with their lives and they just got carried away. It happens. I should've stayed in contact with alot of friends, but we drifted apart. Again it happens!!

And he was probably interested in the new woman just because he was trying to run away from home. If he had met a whiskey bottle instead of the new lady, he would've become an alcoholic, if he met a poker game instead he would've become a gambler. Sometimes cheating is not about "who" he's cheating with...but about "why" he's doing it.

I'm not trying to justify cheating, but I'm trying to prove my point that we shouldn't be all self-righteous because situation like these can happen to us, and I for one can't be sure of what I would do, so I can't judge people for doing something which one day I might do (hopefully not!!).

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

i disagree.when you feel and see something in your relation is going wrong you should take the time to talk about it.not when it is to late.and second point,in the first time the new woman in his life would be like a shining star for him but he will loose his intrest after some time because he get bored again.and then she would be in the same situation as his poor wife bevore and the drama will go on.no thanks.no needs for it.

damn you lady and your commonsense skills... aren't you Muslim women supposed to be quite hahahahahahahahahah only kidding...

yes its hard to say if in that situation if any one would do what is right... or if anyone would ever be in that situation... so no one knows what they are made of until they are stuck in a situation...

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Ok as much as I'm anti-affairs and anti-straying I am, I must say affairs are alot more complicated than they seem. It's not just "oh I got bored of my spouse", alot of factors come into play, and although on their own they seem trivial but add them up and u got a serious problem.

For example, the husband and wife are both so pre-occupied with their lives, she's raising the kids and taking care of the house, while he's busy at work. Eventually, they started to drift apart and just didn't communicate well thinking that everything was ok when everything was not ok. The husband starts spending time with a beautiful co-worker alot, and slowly she starts to seduce him. He starts dreading to go home to deal with all the problems he has, and so spends more time with her to run away from those problems. Ultimately, he cheats on his wife.

In this scenario, yes the husband was wrong for doing so, but I can understand why he did it and it seems like any of us can be put in his shoes and most of us would do what he did. So bad things do happen. It's inevitable. But the question lies in whether the marriage is strong enough to be able to forgive him, learn from BOTH of their mistakes and become a stronger, more communicative couple.

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

no matter man or woman.if someone has the needing to go with another one then he/she should have the courrage to end the actual relationship.the cheated person is suffering to much.for me no problem at home gives someone the right to cheat,better to face the problems and to solve them.we have a mouth to talk and ears to listen.we should use that more.

Hello lovelies...Well, after following this thread of conversation my faith in marriage has successfully plummeted to an all-time low!! LOL

...I was surprised that the men here aren't making an effort to at least pretend that they would be faithful to their lady! Thanks for being honest lol

Someone said something about morals being a good indicator of how faithful a man is likely to be...That somehow makes sense to me. Studies show that an Amish person suffering a manic episode may, in a fit of wild rebellion, sneak away and watch TV or something...while someone with more ''liberal'' or ''looser'' morals having a similar episode might find themselves becoming involved in risky sexual activity (for example). So an act of rebellious behavior was relative to the person's moral barometer.

Sorry that probably wasn't expressed very well (I'm not very scientific but I was trying to add something scientific to support my belief) :)...but honestly I do think morals must play a big role.

BTW if I notice that a man (or a woman for that matter) lacks character in several areas, it seems fair to conclude that he or she probably lacks character in the area of monogamy too. Though undoubtably good men also often stumble; no man (or woman) is perfect!!! :)

xmp

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Ok I'm outta here...before I get too boring in bed...ahem...

what is this thread about?

hey u people whats all this about ghosts now..stop hijacking this thread and blah blah...see i can be the QL jackass too now quickly tell me some nice ghost stories. i'm waiting people :)

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Tonight's theme is Ghosts Night

what would you call him next time?

I talk non stop, even in my sleep :o)

Once called hub Harold - took a while to get over that one

do you talk usually when you sleep?

I need you to listen to my anecdotes :(

Scarlett has heard them all now ......

BTW Scarlett ... I've give you 'crick in the neck'! lol

so she's off the radar...

and I'm so going to have to switch treadmills with jauntie so my neck won't get a crick in it whilst listening...

think it is Alexa's fault

her ears are all your tomorrow morning

you try...

thought u r ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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tomorrow I'm going to start a thread JUST FOR US. No-one else will be allowed in, OK?

and not a damn soul noticed - not even SMOKE!

Jeez it's worse than I thought. I can't even be seedy and get noticed!

congrats jauntie >me been married only 17.5 yrs now.........still a long ways to go

life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......

being in the invisomode???

i see what your saying corny... but... i think i may have worded it wrong...

my intentions were to say that its all our own doings and you never know what you are going to do in any situation until you get there... no matter how good or how bad of a person you are... because every situation is different for every body... so saying that all men will do wrong is not true...

and as for spending 20 years with the same person... if your love life is slacking... thats your own fault...

i have been with my wife for 5 and im still learning new things...

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well even my folks are married for 32 years and i hope many more to come and they fight like cats and dogs hehe i hope i dont have some extra brothers or sisters somewhere...hmmm the thought of sharing my rightful property with them...damn it:)

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

fancy a coffee one evening so's I can explain how I've survived ;D

Your place or mine *wicked evil grin*

Alexa, Jauntie, what have u guys been smoking ??? lol

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

Huh ? No wait my parents haven been married for more than 20 years...damnit I don't know how long they've been married! Noone tell my mom about this!!

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

quit goosestepping and laugh at jauntie's joke...

I say if ur not happy with the marriage, break it off and then go do whatever the hell u want, no need for straying.

And about the 20 years, obviously I haven't experienced it but my parents have been married for 20 years and are as happy as ever. My grandparents have been married for 50 years and are the cutest couple I've ever seen. So no it doesn't get boring if u don't let it :)

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

and I'll leave it at that... let's just say almost 27 years of marriage isn't boring... ;)

I got it...now scoot!!! I'll tell you how funny it was in the morning!

scarlet that guy would be moi :) why do most men go astray? either they are not happy with their married life, they want to experience something different exciting or they are just plain sex maniacs

after 20 years of having sex with the same person BOTH can feel bored and BOTH can wander of to the greener side of the hill, i didnt say only men get bored did i? but seriously who the hell has sex for 20 years straight..its just good for like the first 5 years am i right or am i right?

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

I need you to come here and laugh at my invisible joke.

I think tomorrow I shall go in search of a perky copulator - um, nope, that's the wedding gift joke ..

.. bridegroom meant to thank his father in law for the coffee percolator and got tongue tied.

:D

thatguy, what ur saying reminded me of something I took in Pysch class. It's called Fundamental Attribution Error. Basically, it's that we tend to blame people's actions more on the personality rather than the situation, which is wrong cause sometimes it might be a good person in a bad situation who ends up doing something bad, so we assume oh that's because he was a bad person not cause it was a bad situation. However, if we ourselves were in that situation, we would blame the circumstance and not ourselves! Ha!

Well doing anything for 20 years can get boring, that's why people should keep spicing things up instead of just sleeping with someone else and then saying "oh it got boring". People just love taking the easy convenient way out and then justifying it ;)

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

and you will miss doing our hamster impressions at the gym!!

who CAN think with the large head and not be over ruled by the smaller one. Those are the ones that have grown up and take responsibility of their lives. Life is what you make of it..

Earlier someone said that having sex with the same person for 20 years can be boring...and they stray...well, wouldn't that be boring from BOTH sides??? so..that being said..would it make it alright for the OTHER side of that marriage to stray also?? According to some guys on here, it would.

Send me to bed ...

And all ur getting are rotten pickles :P haha

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

keeps the marriage together. Saves bothering the little woman, let's her get on with her life without upsetting the household.

It's only the dumber men/women who think they have 'fallen in love', instead of just falling into a lust situation, who upset the applecart at home.

well lets just put it this way... any one in the worst position can be tempted to do the worse things... but if they go all the way threw with it or not is all on who they are and what morals they have as a person...

lets say a person with high morals thinks even talking to another chick is wrong...

were as some one with a little less morals would take it as far as (i know this sounds childish but) third base... because to him or her they didnt go threw the whole act so they dont feel so bad...

even though its still wrong... but they had at least enough courage to stop...

its hard to say whats worse because different situation bring different out comes... so whose to say you or anyone else (male or female) wouldnt do whats write or wrong in every situation...

so going out and saying that all men will do it inevitably is not correct

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yes yes i admit ittttttttttt i want the cake i want the cakeeeeeeee :( waaaaaaaaaahhhh.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

come on now..you'd just come on as 45 million other guys and vote..thus skewing the results...admit it...you just want to have your cake and eat it too...

I know it's shocking, but believe it or not PM, they can! They just choose not to and decide to blame it on the evil seductresses...poor poor innocent boys :P

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

i wish we could have a poll here on every debate to settle things once and for all...why dont we have polls here grrrrrrrr

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Amen to that Scarlett! Thank u for restoring my faith in men! lol

U know that saying "u want what u can't have", all of a sudden married people seem so irresistible to us cause we know we can't have them!

Oh god, I just remembered "The Bold and the Beautiful", everyone slept with everyone! People were resurrected from the dead! Children turned out to be biologically someone elses! Geez! And it's still going on!

Like I said, blaming it on external factors is the easy way out. "Oh it wasn't MY fault...she seduced me, and because I have no control whatsoever over my penis, I was forced to sleep with her!" (sorry if it offends anyone...but it's true!!)

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

We could have done the 'bust to bust' waltz :D

its very easy to see WHY some men are still unmarried on here..

I don't think most men will cheat if they respect and love their wives...The reason they DO cheat is that they have convinced themselves that its "their nature" and there's nothing they can do about it..bull hockey!!! Humans have outgrown that part of their evoluationary cycle..or at least the ones who have EVOLVED have...Men need to stop taking it as an excuse to do what they want to...and take responsibility for their actions...

and yes...some women ARE the aggressors...in fact, I know many that take married men as a challenge..especially if they are rich..

Love those Indian soaps - not seen any, but they have a familiar ring to them.

Eastenders (from UK) to name but one UK soap, springs to mind. How so many people can get murdered, divorced, sleep with their son's fiance, have affairs with the neighbours husband, be in jail for something or other AND live a second life elsewhere without anyone knowing ALL IN ONE STREET?

phew

quite exhausting ;P

one of your statements...the part about men being sexually active longer..what a crock of BS!!! Menopause has nothing to do with it..women don't even reach their full sexual potential until they are mid 40s...and it goes WAY beyond that...Men, on the other hand, DON'T last as long as they tend to need Viagra...to put it a bit nicer..if you are choosing naturally..then women last longer in the sexual department...One thing you might want to consider is that if a woman ISN'T sexually active around that age, then it is probably her partner...not her that is the problem.

knox i think ur pants have never fallen period. :)

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

i dont know what u people are smoking tonight...u all need to watch more indian soaps..everything is always right at home but still one wife will pop up or the old girlfriend comes to take back her lost love who's married with 4 kids...or the husband has a whole bunch of kids with another woman or heck the 3 kids he thought was his own turned out to be someone else's....and hey these are all true stories based on real people lol :P

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

off to another more serious topic.

If things are right at home, he wont go no where else.

and really means that, if caught with his pants down,:

All that glitters catches cold

hee hee hee hee

i think someone needs to move on from the all that glitters is not gold and find something better lol!! Knox is that ur excuse everytime u get caught with ur pants down?

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

we guys are very innocent. Its those bi**ches that stray us from the righteous path. If we men only remember:

Appearances can be deceptive. All that glitters is not gold.

We dont go to women and ask them to seduce us. They come to us and we being innocent and naive fall in the trap

this reminds me of a little joke where 2 kids a boy and a girl are playing and comparing who's got better toys...at the end the boy pulls down his pants and says "look here i have one of these" the girl thinks for a moment and lifts up her skirt saying "look here, with one of these i can get as many of your THAT"

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

then perhaps u've cheated on them hmmm alexa..should we be sending u over to Pope's booth now?

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

I need you to converse with me again LMAO

Not only would you would like to believe so, but a lot of them would like to believe otherwise! :-)

The world is a bad place........but take heart..........theres a lot left to ruin!

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"

you said: " I think that a woman will accept her spouse having any relationship with any other woman as long as it doesn't involve sex."

I actually think that I would be MORE upset if my husband had a relationship with another woman WITHOUT having sex with her. It would mean much MUCH more that he enjoyed her company.

In fact I do believe some relationships have been torn apart simply because a man (or woman) has built up an 'internet' friendship and become close in correspondence without even meeting each other.

That I would be VERY jealous of!

I would like to believe so too Venks. But everyone else here seems sure that men will stray regardless....grrrrr...

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

Inevitably means all married men will stray outside of marriage at least once. Well, no.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"

Well that individual u had a conversation with is an ass! But then again that's what double standards are all about. If a man sleeps around, he's a stud. If a woman does the same, she's a slut. I blame our stupid societies for brainwashing us with "men are better" ideology, and it's been going on around the world for ages. Fortunately, it's getting better nowadays, but traces are still there.

Oh and Paul, u know I didn't mean it literally :P

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

well lets just say all people are different... i had a conversation with an idividual the other day... they will remain unnamed... but this person is dead set on the idea that men can do what they want because they are smarter... and he believes the best women is one that would give him any and everything he asks for ... even though she knows hes going out and doing things with other women...

i must admit tempations are everywere... even for some one who has been married for 5 years... but the tempations are on both parties... i know plenty of women who cant keep there pants on even though there married...

the reason it seems men are worse about it... is that if a man cheats on a women the man is more inclined to get caught... because men like to boast and brag... as for a women... well you ladys are some crazy creatures lets just put it at that... hahahahahaah

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Whoppie Wow !! You credit me with more than what I have. So I am a dumb err.. buxom beauty.

mom_me u think ur so smart dont u...ever wonder where ur black bra went missing...i always have an ace up my sleeve..and in this case its the black bra that i will use as the emergency parachute :)

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

I agree. Men suck. For 10 men to stray it requires 10 women, or maybe one woman if they all stray into the same woman. So men suck more than women in quantity than in intensity. :)

Smoke, when I do a job I make sure it is done well. So all the time you were wondering when did you buy those polka dotted ones, well, I confess I made those holes in them. You may start praying now that your parachute has holes all over.

Mr. Paul thats what i meant when i said moral values are gone out the window. Normally as the golden rule men dont really want to chase a woman who already has a man...but things are changing.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Not all men !!

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hello? what world are u living in mom_me men now a days dont really require WOMEN to do IT! dont believe me ask Canada :p

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

as men...

But also, some of the blame lies with the third party, the people who try it on with Married people.

The first rule is..If someone is married, you DONT chase them !!

Just my opinion.

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mom_me i wouldnt put all my faith in landing on my arse..thats why i'll use my big arse's underwear as the parachute!!

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Techdoc, since man will require a woman to do 'it' I guess it answers your question.

techdoctor, u can't compare a daughter's love to a wife's love. They're completely different!

smoke, ur right, we shouldn't limit it only to men, women stray as well. But I think men do it more because they feel less less attached.

In conclusion...MEN SUCK! :P haha

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

I don't mind breaking the wall for a good cause. But you may still thank god for that arse in case you land on it.

err how can u keep the sex out? what the point of wandering into forbidden waters if ur not going to set sail?

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

ha mom_me ur gonna need a bigger window to throw me out...sometimes i thank god for a big fat arse!!

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Let us keep the sex part away. Can a man love his wife and his daughter equally? Now if you replace the daughter with another woman, hell breaks loose. I think that a woman will accept her spouse having any relationship with any other woman as long as it doesn't involve sex. Having children exclusively with someone is THE commitment of marriage. The primary purpose of sex IS to have children, not pleasure. Considering that spreading one's DNA is the primary purpose of life, Man will always do it. What about a woman?

come to think of it why are we limiting this discussion to only men...women dont wander??? u cant clap with one hand unless its a SLAP!! damn i love when i come up with such stupid quotes lol

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

LOL Smoke. Just an example (Agree not a good one, must be the headache). Keep your window closed. You never know who/what goes next out of the window.

e.g Mr. Paul :D

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Just the unhappy ones

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mom_me sex and violence are two different things...people would rather have sex then slap someone..moral values? thats all gone out the window

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Grrrr....my faith in men keeps getting worse! :(

Well if we're not monogamous, then why commit ?

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

Men are S*xually active longer in life and may find they aren't getting satisfaction from their wife once she hits the menopause. how it is handled can determine if the relationship will end.

Love and support only come from a long term relationship, not a quick fling with an intern.

Going to sign off now, night all.

Values play an important part. As humans we are inclined to err. We may get angry and want to slap the person but hold our instincts. What makes us do that and behave in a civilized manner? Similarly a man may fantasize but what holds him from straying. His moral values. This is my outlook.

sex gets old when ur doing it with the same person over and over again..yes if a man had the freedom to sleep around with many he would. I've known many relationships that have ended once the couple had sex..and sometimes they have been together for like 4 to 5 years. married people can go astray even after 20 years of happily married life.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Yeah there are social and religious constraints to monogamy, but let's assume there wasn't and a man can sleep around if he wants to. The question is would he want to sleep with someone else ? It's not about getting caught or not, it's about whether he wants to or not.

If ur happily married, would u want to sleep with someone else ?

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

giving u an example of Bill clinton...man with great responsibilities didnt he go astray too? principle has nothing to do with it i feel its just a man's instinct to spread his seeds as they say

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

I would say it has to do with one's principle in life. Whether a man loves his wife/family or not may/may not be the reason.

We do react a lot more to our animal instinct than we realize, look at smoke, he's nearly a cat in himself (ever seen Red Dwarf)

Seriously we do have self control but don't you think that makes us unhappy sometimes. I think religion tells us that monogamy is the only way, and some religions advocate several partners. Please don't turn this into a religious argument, just pointing out the facts

if there is temptation and if he has a chance to act upon it i say 80% of the time he'll do it..coz he thinks he wont get caught coz his wife will never know about it.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

No, what I'm saying is that he will be tempted but will not act on it.

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

but corne what ur saying is if a man really loves his wife and is committed to her then this sorta temptation wont come into play..thats where ur wrong.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Exactly smoke, thinking of the next set of boobs is different than going ahead and grabbing them. That's what I'm saying, temptation is different than actually going for it.

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

I'm not trying to judge or know every single relationship's reasons for straying. I'm simply examining the phenomena of monogamy and whether it exists in humans or not.

Yes there are alot of factors that come into play, but we can't blame it on external stimuli, we are capable of inner control. Using those external factors as excuses is an easy way of getting away with it.

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

men will always wander its in our nature...some might not go and actually do it but we're always thinking of the next best set of boobs.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

You can not generalize. Some married men might not wander even if a lady is imposing herself on them.

u have to consider differnt facts, being away from the wife, wanting lady companionship, wife not giving the husband what he wants, there are always different things to consider. every relationship has problems who's to say why and for what reasons a man or woman will stray? but truth is it does happen.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Well AJ, this supports what u said:

"Monogamy is so rare in the animal world that only 3-5 % of the mammals are known to form lifelong pair bonds, like beavers, otters, jackals, foxes, some bats and a few dwarf deer and antelopes.

In fact, strict monogamy is almost inexistent, as creatures that do pair for life, occasionally have flings on the side and some, like the wolf, do not mourn too much a death or a no longer sexually performing partner."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Monogamy-is-an-Oddity-42006.shtml

But we aren't like other animals, we don't function solely on sexual or biological desires. If that was the case, then what's marriage for ?

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

Temptation is one thing, actually going ahead with the affair is another. Everyone gets tempted...but that's where our self-control comes into play. Are men (or women for that matter) that weak that they would give in to temptation that easily and throw out all the hard work they put into a relationship ?

So if ur saying that men do inevitably stray, then why commit in the first place ?

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong :P - Garfield

i think ur friend is right.....men are easily seduced not matter what, sometimes its a mistake they realise too late but eventually it will happen if the woman is persistant.

Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot

Monogamy is a very odd thing, very few animals practice true monogamny (mainly birds). I think men wander because it's in there genes to spread their bloodline as far as possible, and they will chase a fertile female, it's a dreadful habit.