drink driving

Hi folks,

Myself and friend got accident after coming out from bar due to tyre burst.The police brought us to hospital and after the treatment they discharged me.But my friend had submitted in the court and he paid fine 2000 QRs for drink and drive

So my worry is what about me,am in business visa and planing to apply RP on comingdays.

Is it problem to me for apply RP.Please help me to come out from this frustration.

Dont hesitate and reply will be very appreciated.!!!

hi champ, my husband had the same problem. that was 3 years ago already when police caught him drunk while driving, he was scheduled for a hearing tomorow, and i am so woried.. he has no lawyer to attend with him. Do we really need a lawyer for this? please give us advice I am so worried. :( thanks.

Yeah... don't drink and drive!! It makes you spill too much ;)

After almost two years and 6 hearings, I got a verdict and it is 10,000QR fine and no jail term. Appealed it, after one hearing they lower the fine for 1,000.00QR and the returned the bail I paid when I was first caught. Glad all are through now. Guys let this be a lesson to all. Do not drink and drive.

They always write description in English not exactly related to your traffic violation, if you need to get the correct one use Arabic site and check you will get the correct one. (English clarification always they select the fine worth to your violation)

dfd

What happened for your drink driving case? i am also into same trouble. can u pls let me know wht penalty they gave for you.

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Biztrade

Em.... then I'm totally lost. For lesser cases only Muslims are taken to a Shariya court from what I know. Get a good lawyer fast.

No... I am not a Muslim that is why I am confuse why the hearing has to be done in a Sharia Court.

If you have to appear in a Shariya court then you are probably a Muslim, and would hence be liable to whipping and a few weeks in jail followed by deportation, if proven guilty.

your name could also appear in the local newspapers.

the worst that can happen is you will be deported.

what happen to duncheski. I am having the same problem now. Actually it happens last December 22, 2009. I came from Qube with 4 of my friends have a drink there. Then when we decided to go home around 1:30am I can feel that I can still drive as I know my self very well. So off we go... tried to find some food to eat first before going home. At that time Orient Express is close already. It happen that they don't open 24 hours anymore. So I continue driving going to Markhiya R/A we decided to just eat in Burger King. It happens that there is checkpoint in Markhiya R/A that time and the police are stopping every car that are passing. The police ask me where did we came from and I told them from Qube. He ask me if I am drunk I said no.. I am going home actually. Then he ask me to leave the car and check everything in the car. He ask my friend to leave and I waited with them. Then they bring me to Madinath Khalif police station stayed there for 2 hours before sending me on blood testing clinic then to the Capital Prison near MP Traders/Crazy Signal. I stayed there for more than 24 hours before sending me to Prosecutors Office. There they ask me what happen and told them the same and I paid 1,000QR.

Yesterday, I receive a call from them and they said I have to attend a hearing in Shariya Court on a specified date. I just wonder weather this kind of violation/case is handled by a Shariya Court. And what could be my punishment for this violation?

I am not judging, just curious as this seems bizarre. These "plain clothed" policemen issues are rampant here, just asking if I was correct in my assumptions as if he showed no ID etc it is good for your case

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

LMAO...

Yeah call on mods to end this one, it really is not going anywhere, and seems to be in direct violation of your "personal attack" rules.

IMHO

hope everything is going ok with your issue though Duncheski, and they don't throw any books at you.

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Can we close this topic now? Even i'm bored with some of the comments put on here and i started the thread. Just to summarise, i drank 15 pints of beer, ran 4 red lights, swore at the police, raped the police man's wife, planted a few bombs here and there and murdered a few people. I deserve death penalty. That should appease some people on this thread so no more lecturing ok?

You were stopped by a plain clothed policeman? Did he show you a police ID? Am I correct that he then allowed you to drive to the police station and you ran 2 red lights in the process? you were charged with drunk driving and the policemand ordered you to drive?

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

HELLOOO....this is wacky races country.....these moron drivers of certain nationalities make me sick and after 3 years it does not get easier.....now i just take the slow lane home...do the speed limit, did an advanced driving course which helps me to help me cope with the dogems at the roundabouts safely

and u silly man, you have to see the aftermath of a crash caused by a drunk driver with a kid mangled in blood....but even that does not deter you big tough guys who think they can still drive with 10 pints....very big of you.

whipping is too good for DDs.

Did we all discussed in the other thread that one could get his own police, just to be fair in justice?

Don't know about here, I do know 2 people in UAE (both white UK expats) who were fined and jailed for drink driving.

Good luck.

Signature line > "You can't fix stupid"

Im sorry but i couldnt resist a chuckle when reading about the Brit northern QS who got caught drink driving.

All I can say is that, being a QS Im pretty sure someone else was buying the drinks, and that he shouldve stayed at home feeding his whippets and counting his pencils!!!

A Pakistani and an Indian get into a car accident and it's a bad one. Both cars are totally demolished but amazingly neither of them is hurt. After they crawl out of their cars, the Indian sees the Pakistani's car and asks, "So you're a Pakistani. I'm an Indian. Just look at our cars. There's nothing left, but we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God. God must have meant that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace the rest of our days."

The Pakistani replies, "I agree with you completely this must be a sign from Allah."

The Indian continues, "And look at this. Here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune." Then he hands the bottle to the Pakistani.

The Pakistani says : "Even though alcohol is banned by Islam but it looks like Allah wanted us to drink." He takes a few big swigs, and hands the bottle back to the Indian.

The Indian takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap on, and hands it back to the Pakistani. The Pakistani asks, "Aren't you having any?" The Indian replies, "No... I think I'll wait for the police!"

LOL.... should have thoughted! ahi hi hi hiiiiiiiiiii...

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Yes, I understand. No problem, you're right.

In Qatar, if you drink at all, do not drive. Especially if you are leaving from a hotel or bar ! (as opposed to a private party). Just not worth losing your job etc. over it.

If you're in Europe, Americas, etc. you might still drive after a couple of glasses of wine with dinner because you would still be well under the legal limit. But, you are still playing with fire, unless you carry a breathalyzer around in your pocket.

Yes, you're right. But that's all irrelevant since the legal blood percentage in Qatar is 0%.

My reason for 'arguing' is that I think it's irresponsible to post the following;

"If you have had a couple of drinks, it's no big deal to drive home. You are probably still under the international standard for drunk while driving."

as it could be misconstrued that this holds true in Qatar.

Pss. Here is another interesting link. It calculates your blood alcohol level. With two glasses of wine I would be well below the allowable limit in most countries (Qatar not included of course).

http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm

Ps. Here is a link to the allowable limits by country. I got a chuckle out of Russia's "drunkeness". So, in Russia, you gotta be hammered before you are over the limit. So precise.

www.icap.org/portals/0/download/all_pdfs/ICAP.../report11.pdf

True. Well you know what I mean I am sure.

If the legal blood percentage in X % in Europe, Americas, etc. that means it is probably safe to have some alcohol in your blood and still drive. Just because you've had a couple glasses of wine, doesnt mean you are incompetent to drive. If you're a big man, that wine would not affect you much and you would likely be below X % of alcohol in your blood. It would be just as dangerous, or more, if you were driving while tired and sleepy.

Don't argue with me just for the hell of it.

Secretagent69 said - "If you have had a couple of drinks, it's no big deal to drive home. You are probably still under the international standard for drunk while driving."

International standard? What are you on about? Each country sets it's own standards. In Qatar the 'standard' is absolutely NO alcohol if you're driving.

Ps. For example, I personally would not post any incriminating personal information on this website and especially on this thread considering the title. They very likely monitor this site and could easily trace your address considering QTEL is government owned. Just an example of how one has to remember to be careful in this environment.

Of course duncheski is looking for some practical information not moral comment. That is understandable.

If you have had a couple of drinks, it's no big deal to drive home. You are probably still under the international standard for drunk while driving.

Having said that, what you did was really stupid considering where you are. But you probably know that in hindsight.

Were you coming from a hotel or bar or something? You were probably followed from the moment you left said establishment. Plain clothes policeman probably stake out establishments monitoring people who leave. He was likely messing with you to test if you were incapable of reacting (ie. too drunk).

Your mistake was breaking a traffic law. He then had reason to believe you may have drank too much. Number one rule of driving after a couple of drinks is DON'T BREAK ANY RULES OR BRING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.

Well, like I said, this guy probably had you pegged from the moment you left the bar and hopped in your car.

Your just guilty of being stupid. Sucks, but sometimes people forget where they are. It has the illusion of a regular place.

Hi Duncheski,I have been following your comments, I am currently in the same situation as yours. the actual offence happened in 2007 end. was taken to public prosecution and booked for drink driving paid qrs.2000/- bail and a further qrs.20,000/- to leave the country as i was on a business visa. I did not hire a lawyer and the court verdict came last year as 2 months jail term and a qrs.200/- for a stay order, had the 200qrs paid through a friend as Im over seas and the sentence is currently stayed. im unsure what to do next. If you could advise me about a your lawer and what he charges I will be usefull for me, awaiting your reply

Must be a tuff one.. Dun!.. Dubai is more Open and at a drop of a stone u have a Pub.. Here is rare and bare.. All the Horny Jerks linger around in their cruisers or Patrols..So get over it and Begin a new chapter..Even if u drink..make sure its on Permissible Limits.. Else.. call a friend or ask the Place where ur chilling out to help you with a cab.. Besides.. 2 Pints of Beer will not Get u High..But can sure give a Black Mark of Infinite Possibilities.

So Am hoping you get over it..Drink to Forget & Home..Cheer Aa

hmmmm are u sure it's Peternz who's the moron or is it u?

the execution squad for you!!!

And I am not jokeing.

Got me there :o)

OK, since he's a Man U fan we'll just give him the "Comfy" chair instead...

Brit, Quantity Surveyor, not Building Surveyor - there's a difference :o)

Sorry Gerry.. when buying my last house, the Quantity Surveyor took me to the cleaners. So Duncheski deserves the chair..

I take my hat off to Duncheski. he posted on this open webste what happened and asked for some advice. Firstly to do this takes guts and I doubt if any of his detractors would have the bottle to do that, and I am pretty sure some of these morons live in their own glass houses and if their activities where looked into, they all would have some dark secrets that they would not like to admit to.

Secondly considering duncheski is a quantity surveyor and a Man United suporter some would say that is punishment enough, but let's be charatable.

My concern is the entrapment by the police. As we live in Qatar that will not be considered. The way it works here is to get a good Arabic lawyer, show contrition and get the help of your sponsor.

Even quantity surveyor should get a second chance!!!

lol..duncheski..chill..get urself off this forum n relax,everything passes..this will too..

Peternz u utter cretin, Read the post properly before opening ur mouth. I said it was 1am and the roads were quiet, i was doing u-turn therefore i was almost stationery when doing the red light with no traffic coming the other way. I'd had 2 beers so drunk and stupid driving is hardly an accurate description u moron.

No more comment needed - except this isn't just drunk driving it's drunk & stupid driving. I'm thankful I wasn't going thru the green light at the same intersection.

Since when has having an MSc meant ur stop becoming human ie stop making mistakes....everyone takes calculated risks in their lives on many different levels...i ain't gonna pretend i didn't comprehend the implications of getting caught.

Magic dragon are u a teacher by the way....very teacher-esq lecture there on stating the bleeding obvious.

Does having a MSc = having common sense?

I hope you'll be deported. Zero tolerance for drinking and driving. That is unmistakable. Since you claim to have a MSc you should be able to comprehend the meaning.

Please let us know. It may help someone in the future and although it may not seem like it, we do care.

Mandi

Duncheski just stop making excuses for yourself. U're digging urself into an even more louche position.

i just liked q lady's comment.

as for calling me a muppet...

FYI. A british national(white Skin)working as a PM in WT Atkins got 1 month jail for the same offence :)

I echo the sentiments of UKengQatar. Good luck and thanks for sharing your ordeal.

There are many bullies on OL. They really get off on kicking people when they're down. :(

lol

duncheski..keep in mind that the courts here actually close for almost a cupl of months in the late summer..i think august mainly..this year ramadan also begins late aug,n u knw everything slows down durin ramadan..check with ur lawyer..

I'll give him a couple of drinks and if he drinks it I'l call the police lol

Great comment chuckspeak - when faced with a qatari who u don't know is police and he starts behaving aggressively towards u, what u gonna do? Hit him? prob not. Take evasive action? prob yes. Thats what i did.

qlady,if u really wanna find out..

give ur driver a cupl of drinks,ask him if he's drunk..n tell him not to drive..if he still does u've got the answer..

jus kiddin..ya,..actly,drinkin doesnt stop the ability to make decisions ,just sometimes a drunk makes the wrong ones..;-)..

cheers

drsam i wasn't drunk u muppet....luscious decision? nice use of the english language, maye u need a few lessons?

I know a Filipino guy this happened with. He had everything sorted in about a month and a half to 2 months, you shouldn't worry about getting home for christmas.

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Thanks j3375 for the info. I got a decent lawyer so hopefully i will get a decent hearing. Just hope i can get back to UK before xmas.

i wonder if it's possible! he's drunk for God sake! why book him if in the first place it wasn't his lucious decision ? fools r not judged for crimes they did. they're fool!

You were forced huh??? Well was he going ot make u crash? I'm sure ure a big boy and can take care of yourself ;-) guess u just got u're comeuppance of sorts ;-)

Yeah i'm 12, and have been forced through many red lights by someone infront of me.

It's not the end of the world, you will be fined, slapped on the wrists and that'll be it. Now Depending on which company you are with is another thing, most companies get a little uptight about situations like this. I imagine as you are a QS which is usually in pretty high demand by companies (especially with RICS) you will be fine. Just be glad yer not a civil engineer lmao.

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Cheers UKEng, defo be getting taxis from now on. I was in dubai for a yr and always got cabs, they were so frequent though there was no excuse but here they're a bit harder to come by so sometimes u think maybe if i'm just having a couple of pints its worth the risk.....

Thanks for the info duncheski, Not a nice situation to be in. A lesson for us all, is it really worth the risk or is it better to take a taxi.

I hope that you get through this ordeal swiftly without too much of hassle.

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hey duncheski, well u may be allowed to stay back(if u want to)even after the trial..if ur muslim,u'll face punishment according to the shariah court and can expected minimum of 40 lashes for drinking..

if non muslim,ur lucky as u can escape the lashes,but i think ull be fined heavily for sure..not sure bout the jail term as i've seen it vary here according to ur nationality..

u from uk so i dont think ull have more than a month max in the can..

if u have the dough,think the charges against you are severe(as u havnt mentioned details)..go in for a good lawyer..u will be thrufine..beleive me it helps..sometimes its possible to close the case in the public prosecution itself,without having to go to court..but a lawyer/ur embassy may have to be involved..

Im speaking from experience of action taken being under the influence,but i wasnt driving at the time..not sure how strict they are with drink driving..

All the best..

..and no u cant leave the country unless u have some emergency back home for which u give adequate proof and put up some kind of bond(cash) and then u are allowed to leave,if ur crime not very serious..but having a lawyer(qatari pref) around is vital to ensure that all this happens in time ..

Plenty of taxis here.

But when did dohell start using the 'British points' system ?

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

Listen chuckspeak i know its not cool or clever to dd, just looking for anyone's experience of such an outcome so to gve me an idea of what i can expect. So u can sling the lecture. I was in control of the vehicle, didn't have a crash and when being forced to do a red light to get away from the qatari maniac it was 1AM and nothing on the roads....the only potential damage was to my wallet which i was prepared to take in order to get away from this at the time apparantly crazy guy.

The reason for 'whinging' about the fine is because i was FORCED into running a red cos of this plain clothes prick not doing his job properly and playing games instead. If i ran a red cos of my own stupidity i would have no complaints.

Maybe read the post properly next time before replying.

Duncheski - I was very good friends with an A&E doctor in England who had a good ten years of medical experience under his belt. Every so often he'd have to deal with the effects of car crash victims or pedestrians who came in as a result of drink drivers. Seeing such an experienced doctor still reduced to tears (and considering he was in A&E I'm sure he saw a hell of a lot of shit too) simply becuase of how badly these people were turned out, then don't u think that whinging about getting a 6,000 riyal fine is really dim? Perhaps you should get so mashed up yourself that it takes a DNA test to even identify who the hell u are before you learn the stupidity of such actions. It's not cool - and it certainly doesn't make you look anything more than a selfish creep. You may not have been 'drunk', or however it was u put it, at the time, but there may well be that one time when u drink more than u think u did and u go kill someone.

Can anyone who is drunk consciously decide not to drive?

Samael are you 12?

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i ran red lights because i was being threatened by a local qatari guy who was driving erratically in front of me and preventing me from passing him at 1am when streets were deserted and forgive me but i got a little freaked about by his behaviour so proceeded to do a u-turn at the lights when on red and with NO traffic coming the other way just to escape the lunatic. He then followed me for ten minutes before finally pulling me over. THEN he showed me his police badge. These undercover police abuse their positions, if he'd just pulled me over in the first place i would have escaped the 6,000 QR fine i received today.

Yet you are an idiot for drinking and driving.

i just know that because i was fined 2 months ago for wrong parking in souk wakif parking.

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Cuntry!!!!

Owwwww... nice one.

it's different to drive while DRUNK, or under the influence of alcohol. but as azilana put it, here in doha they make no difference, it's zero tolerance

DRACULA, it's 300 to 500 but 3 points not 1!

LoL Duncheski, u ran 2 red lights aswell... Hmmm u didnt mention that before... yeah probably just a big fine and maybe a driving ban, and BTW the whippings DO happen here for such incidents, i just didnt know that it was only for Muslims, it shouldnt be though, it should be for any idiot who drinks and drives putting others in danger... Peace :)

Do you have RICS?

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for wrong parking the fine is QR500 and 1 point!

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Thank all the Gods in the world if you can get away with a Jail sentence for Drunk Driving and Crossing 2 Red Light Signals

Dano, it is wrong parking. was the fine QR500?

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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."

Oliver Wendell Holmes

sodomy.

You can't teach experience...

Lawyer reckons i'll get hefty fine. Just like to say thanks to the plain clothes police man who instead of just pulling me over proceeded to play intimidation tactics on the road, slowing down in front of me suddenly, not letting me pass him which led to me running 2 red lights to get away from him - good one dickhead. For the record i was far drom drunk.

I was caught Drunk Driving when old traffic rules were in-force. Consequences.

1. Immediate detention (1 day & 1 night in my case) in a detention centre until you were produced before Public Proseecuter who will decide whether to bail you or not. (in my case he bailed me on QR 2000 cash payment.)

2. My case was heared after 10 months of the incident. (I travelled 4 times out of Qatar during this period).

3. I was advised by the company lawyer and I didn't attend 1st hearing and sentenced to 1 month jail and QR 4000 fine in absntia.

4. Immediately lodged the appeal on the same day of sentence and hearing date was fixed on the same day.

Travel Ban was imposed.

5. Lawyer wrote to the court requesting all court documents relevent to the case and received copies of the same.

6. Lawyer studied the case and prepared an appeal in Arabic and instructed me to submit it to the 3 judges on the hearing day during my hearing.

7. They asked whether I am guilty of the offence and I admitted it and handed over my lawyer's appeal letter.

8. Instructed me to wait for the deceion after closure of the day's proceedings.

9. Court official announced that No Jail sentence and QR 4000 fine but jail suspend for 1 year.

It didn't cost me a single riyal as our company lawyer did it for as a help.

Thank all the Gods in this world and it has been 3 years now I never touched the strearing wheel of a car after even a single drink.

Under the New Rule 1 month complusory JAIL. sorry.

AZI & Tigasin, I always wanted to tell this story to you but didn't get the chance until today.

Yes, some real info on this would be useful for all of us interested. Like most of the stuff you hear the reality will not be as bad as it's made out to be - unless you are Muslim & that's a whole different discussion.

It's not 1 taxi its 2 taxi's

Keep us posted duncheski, it would be good information for everyone.

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"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".

we leave our cars back home and just take a taxi. if you have money to drink, certainly you have money for a taxi fare LOL. even if we get drunk, mafi muskila. =)

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"You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back."

hehe, Their gonna throw the book at you.

After your hearing they will make you cross the vast desert(the one between Doha and Al Wakra) bare foot with only half a bottle of water.

IF you survive, they will then make you walk back with the same bottle of water so they can throw more books at you.

After the litrature lobbing has taken place, they will sit you in the passenger seat of a drunken landcruiser driver and tape 20 kilo weights to his right foot, and he will then drive you accross to Dukan, where you will have to swim to the first bouy while the police boats throw books at you.

once back in Doha (by way of Heavy Foot Drunken Landcruiser Driver Dude) they will put you in a prison Cell for about a week, every morning throwing books at you till you arise from your straw bed (which is also your food)

your screwed dude, no one survives all that.

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Authorities have "zero tolerance" when it comes to drunk driving. But in your case, let's assume that you weren't drunk but did had a bottle or two that's why you smell (not reek)of beer/liquor.

OR, the policemen you met were in a good mood :-)

Check MOI, either you got (negative)points and a fine. 12 points (I think)and you lose your driver's license.

if its speeding do they send you a photo of the offence? I still dont think I have been down that road although speeding is slightly more possible than say poorly loading a camel in the back of my chelsea tractor

Thats a common error, I had the same listed and it was a speeding fine. I know of several cases that are the same

Duncheski - I would expect a fine / possible short jail term and depending on your employer, deportation.

In that order.

I hope the outcome isnt too bad

sorry to hijack the thread but I just checked that website with my reg and found LOADING A VEHICLE IN A WAY THAT CAUSES DANGER TO PEOPLE AND PROPERTIES

WTF is that about, I have no idea about this violation, Ive never even loaded my SUV with more than my weekly shop and I dont even think I have ever driven down the road where the offence took place

how can I contest it?

He got 50 rj.. but checked duncheski if u r not muslim, no whipping or prison.. There will b a fine though..

" Dont take life too seriously, you will never get out alive!!!"

just curious.. =)

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"You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back."

Dude if u're so worried about this 'crap', then don't have a head full of crap and drink and drive. It doesn't take a clever clogs to realise that now does it?! :-p

I would suggest Dr Najeeb Al-Nauimi (he is a former minister of justice) be very penitent and talk to your sponsor. If your sponsor is powerful and your job is important you might get away with it. Otherwise you may have to go to jail for one to four weeks and then you will be deported.

I know a couple of people who have gotten away with it and one person who was deported. You will not get whipped (unless you are a muslim).

Good luck.

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about

Cutting thru the crap it appears likely i'll get a fine, esp as i have a lawyer. i think the whipping/deportation is prob rumours....i didn;t cause an accident too so hoping that prison won't be an option.

Y exactly do you need to drink and drive? Whereever u are in the world, there are consequences for this type of thing. Y have u got issues with it?

Actually duncheski samya's right, it may happen.. It was part of my friends punishment...

" Dont take life too seriously, you will never get out alive!!!"

Thanks for your insightful comment Samya, very articulate, well done.

Your gonna get whipped lool

go to moi.gov.qa den go to traffic violations den type ur plate # den it will show if you have offense.i hope dis simple information helps you....

One of my friends smashed his car while drunk.. The punishments and fines were very severe, not sure u wanna hear about them, he wasn't able to leave the country till the punishment is over, but his case went to court and hearing went for quite a while.. hope urs doesn't

" Dont take life too seriously, you will never get out alive!!!"

I have not been caught, but from what I have been told, the

consequences are severe. I bought if you will be able to leave the country, they will register your passport number at the airport and prevent you from leaving.

That's all hear say, btw.

Whatever you vividly imagine, Ardently desire, Sincerely believe and Enthusiastically act upon, Must inevitably come to pass.