expatriates Spouses Need License to Work
The First Gift of 2008 by the Government:
SPOUSES and other relatives of expatriates who are in Qatar on personal sponsorship, will be required to pay an annual fee of QR500 to get a “licence” from the Labour Department if they want to take up employment in the country.
Taken from
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=193233...
(KnoxCollege's Comments) So all you people who wished 2008 to be a great, wonderful and magnificent year. It looks as if the authorities did not share our plan. Though Q.R. 500 is not a huge amount but this is just the beginning and 2008 will be full of more surprises courtesy of the authorities. Just keep those belts fastened at all times as the road to 2008 seems bumpy. Make sure to have a bag to throw up in, if the flight becomes turbulent.
"If an allegation to the contrary was for the purpose of spreading misinformation it will serve as an opportunity to dispel the myth"
Enjoy 2008
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Thats why I said effort will be futile
"And try sticking to the topic, though chances are that the effort might be futile"
Its you who hijacked your own topic no one else. I just asked a simple question and you turned it upside down in ur reply to me. and then Canarybird replied me you took over from there.
SO ITS YOU WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TODAY'S MESS :D
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XEna :) thanks lol I just missed The "musicality" of such a word " understood" :D
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who will add fuel to the blazing fire. QL is not an islamic site but there are people who know each other beyond the forum. We should not try to hurt each other's religious sentiments as some one might not take it light heartedly and there are chances that he/she might be present in the next QL gathering.
Though I do not condone people fighting each other physically just because one finds someone's post offensive. And most of all we dont want QL to be blocked by Q-Tel. And try sticking to the topic, though chances are that the effort might be futile.
Darude , huh ? are those Porno sites talking also about Qatar ?
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Understood :-)
Quit it enough
and QL is for every one from every Religion back ground.
Even muslims have made porn sites.
Enough
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I've already said that I may have used the wrong "words". I never claim that QL is a religious site. It's concerned with "living" in an Muslim Country : Qatar. The owner is Muslim , and many users are from the same religion : Islam. So, I guess QL has a strong "Islamic " background none would deny this, and none is trying to exclude other groups of people by claiming this belonging.
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Mr PAul , hummmmm are you sure or you're just trying to keep me away of that meal ?
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Xena,
Maybe , I just used the wrong words, but I was not referring to Religion. Let's say it's a site founded by a Muslim and as long as it is talking "mainly" about Qatar, and as long as Qatar is a Muslim country, so...... I hope I make sense :) Mr PAUL pic has affected my senses :D
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And im guessing you may not be allowed this superb English traditional meal !! YUM YUM !!
When i next visit Qatar, the Breakfasts are on me at Rydges !!
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its an Islamic site... and just to clarify.... it's not....
So as proud as you might be that a muslim is the site owner... Qatari has never and will never condone this site to being one religion or another....(as per PM's post...)
Mr PAUL,
hummm u mean " shall we ?"
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Yummm. I could totally go for one of those if I wasn't at work.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
how could you possibly bring such hurt to your compatriots!
Let's start a (new) fight over this!
Best,
SS
what you gonna die from... Picking a fight with someone bigger than you... or from colestrol?
by all means go for it else i will.....hehehehhehe
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
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Shall i ???
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here? Darude got 4 wives ... Alexa got a new avatar ... Gypsy is back ... Frog is starting his new year with a fight ... and hmmmmm? is Canrybird and knoxcollege are fine?
Guys please cut it off ... this is not a good start for the new year on this community.
Peace ...
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ALexa,
Stop starring at me behind your veil :D I'm trying to concentrate on my first "fight" in 20085 :P
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you again online with that pic damn it :/
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Boy !! Do i know how to party or what !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I didn't bring up the chapters fight Froggie, you did, I simply informed you that QL is NOT an Islamic site, and no one's given you the right to declare it as such.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
Oh Xena ... he's not from the middle east ? ... ok I'll log out NOw lol
Well did I say he's supposed to be from ME? Never said that. He's Muslim , and We're proud that he came out with such a genius idea of this site :) No offense to any non-muslim users .
Gypsy ,
Get a life :) it 2008 I'm not willing to get into your "chapters" fights again :)
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hapy 2008 2 all da ppl
pls not 2 start it wid fite
mek peace pls
canary pls not 2 insult islam & mek person atak for hashin
pm pls not 2 atak hashin & frog
pls guys luv 1 anador
hop u all hav wonderful new yr
has been joined !!! Do we have nowt else better to do today ???
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And now you've walked in to this catfight!
Happy new year!!
SS
he probably feels the same way as anyone else when they realized the wars the people have created between each other!
Guess no one ever learns :/
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Welcome to QL Jungle Zone well how was ur night??
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'However, the site was founded by a Muslim and we're proud of this:) Humdulilah.'
Although Qatari is muslim.... he actually isn't even from the Middle East.... sorry to disillusion you...
And he is extremely against it that QL becomes a battle ground for religions.... I sometimes think that he wonders what he created when he sees the bad-blood passing between users.....
only 5??? hmmm better work a little harder, I think you could get more than that :P
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PM,
if you're referring to my Private messages, please be tranparent and paste them on here .
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Mud slinging to begin !!
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no no not now am talking about 2020 :D
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OH YES DARUDE I WILL! :P
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
ready to be my 5th one :D
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Here we go again, the religious mafia on IslamicLiving has their panties in a twist because someone said something they find offensive. What a shocker! Call the papers!....Oh wait the papers probably don't care cause fundamentalists with their panties in a twist is such a common occurence now it's laughable.
What's wrong with suggesting the someone who wants to have 4 wives seek psychiatric help? Many religions recommend counselling and marriage courses for people who only want to marry 1 person, much less 4! Marriage is a big deal and it should never be entered into lightly and anyone entertaining the idea of taking four spouses SHOULD be forced to talk to a counsellor to ensure they are mentally prepared for this challenge.
Also Frog, hate to burst your little bubble, but QL is no more an Islamic site then the Doha Airport is a Muslim.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
"As long as I don't meet you face to face, I'm sure I am safe ;-)"
PM, lol what's wrong with my face hahahaha. SOme people have already seen it and they've come back home safe.
What a " terrorist" reputation I got :(
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Neither have I but obviously others have.
Guess I am lucky as I have never received "after PM's " so I haven't had to experience this unpleasantnesses!
I probably just jinxed myself and will get them all the time now :/
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(just a British - American (?) expression).
Some heavy stuff happening here.
What's going on, peeps?
SS
Again and again..... Qatarliving is a sorta "miniature" of Qatar. It's an Islamic site but this doesn't make it exclusive to muslims and the users like expatriates come from so many different origins. However, the site was founded by a Muslim and we're proud of this:) Humdulilah.
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I think what people fail to realise is that they are only discussions and they may get heated at the time but they are only discussions in the end. However, I think it is senseless to dislike people for their views on a theme. Often you will find member with grudges and the come over clearly in every thread unfortunately.
It is the PM messages after the discussion that often create animosity.
PM,
LOL
"The truth is frog, I see you very clearly and even though you know how to turn on the charm to appease some of the QL ladies, I have seen what lies beneath and that is why I prefer to keep a distance from you."
Paranoiac as usual :) beware I may get inside your Pc cables and harass your Hard disk ROTFL ...... and... please paste those PM's :)
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against anyone... unless ofcourse you can dig up even one comment which reflects the same...
I think people hold grudges from thread to thread... and forget to start clean with each one.
An opinion is an opinion and although one might disagree, it is no reason to not start fresh with a new topic!
I know I have found myself surprised to agree with one that I have so vehemently disagreed with on a previous post...
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----------------> "Hashin, you started off as a very stabiling voice on the forum ( Who did nominate you as a QL Jury? but I have noticed lately that you have a tendancy to overdo it trying to moderate the forum according to your conservative viewpoint. QQL is NOT IL (Islamic Living) Qatar Living is An Islamic Site founded by a Muslim in an Islamic Country ( Qatar) and while it is desirable to be respectful, we do not need any moderators except Qatari and Ahmed."
I wonder how you can judge people the way you do. "conservative" viewpoint ?
...and it's just amazing how you contrdict yourself ?? you're telling him what to "do" and what "not to do" and you're blaming him in the same time for doing it ????
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Lets start fresh in 2008, Lets make a pact not to offend anyone because of their religious beliefs.
I find this statement coming from you very interesting indeed the one person who is pushing Islam down peoples throats.
I was wondering why is it that some member of QL have deep hatred for some other members.
Like the well known feud between PM and Frog, PM and Mir,
silversurfer and hashin, frog and Gypsy?
Lets start fresh in 2008, Lets make a pact not to offend anyone because of their religious beliefs.
Happy New Year dweller
i second that what a great start for 2008 in QL
New Year Resolution - stop being right so often!!
(Taking Frog's by-line to heart! And who'se byline is it about never being wrong, etc??)
Happy New Year to you to and yes it is lol.
Canary,
Same to you :)
The condition in Islam for all those who would like to have more than one wife is : Be fair. and even Quran states that "we" cannot be "really" fair. However, Polygamy should still remain an option when circumstances push men to do that. ( there are some examples) . Anyway, It's much better for a man to have more than one wife , then having more than one mistress and cheat on his wife. Maybe....having children afetrwards from those other women and never recognize them. Within "marriage" he would be forced to take care of the Wives and their Kids :)
PM,
Happy to see you're still sending/receiving Pm's :)
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Believe me I coudn't care less if someone has one or ten wives it is so irrelevant to the run of my life - however, a harmless comment got the fundamentalish pulling out the pocket version of the Quran and preaching for the life of me I can't stand this. Anyway it brought a little life into the thread lol.
'10 things that women do to mess up their lives' - can't remember the exact title, or the author (was it Dr. Laura?).
All good stuff.
And so was the follow-up, on '10 things that men do to mess up their lives'.
Guess we are all foolish humans, whatever the gender.
SS
What a start
Happy New Year to you all
and other thing is attack the topic, thread or comment but PLEASE dont attack the person
Its when we attack the person all hell breaks loose why cant we argue in a civilized manner
For your information Everywhere Quran is the same. There is no such thing as pocket version of Quran. I am not coming up with my own personal explanations of the Holy Quran. I always put forth the life of the Holy Prophet and what is mentioned in the Holy Quran.
If what I have stated here is against the teaching of the Holy Prophet or what is mentioned in the Quran, let me know and I will gladly retract my statement.
SS
unfortunately you leave yourself wide open to all kinds of comment because you lean to far out of the window and don't manage to catch yourself before you fall lol.
"the limitless nature of the male imagination and powers of persuasion";
or maybe the limitless nature of the female gullability and hearing what they want to hear???!!!
SS
You are right and many take the right to take a second or even a third wife.
One of my friends in Bahrain has four wives and tenty kids and he has to work day and night to manage them all lol.
My point is simple, lets not offend anyones beliefs... whatever it may be... discuss it... debate it... but don't offend it...
Back to the main Subject :
QR10 exit permit fee imposed
Published: Wednesday, 26 December, 2007, 03:24 AM Doha Time
By K T Chacko
THE Ministry of Interior hiked the charges for some of its services with effect from yesterday and introduced a fee of QR10 for issuing an exit permit, which was so far issued free of cost.
According to the Interior Minister’s Decision No. 19 of 2007, frequent travellers can get a multiple exit permit for an annual fee of QR500. For the cancellation of such a permit the same amount will be charged.
As per the new decision, identity (ID) cards have become costlier by 100%. The new charge for issuing the ID card is QR100. For replacing a lost card, the owner will have to pay QR200.
The residence permit (RP) fee for a child sponsored by the parent has been raised to QR400. The same amount will be charged for the RP of infants as well.
However, those who renew their children’s visa for a period of three years will be given a discount of 20%.
Dependants who stay beyond the stipulated six months outside Qatar will be charged an additional QR500 for their return to the country.
The renewal fee for worker’s visa (RP) continues to be QR1,000. Foreigners who invest in Qatar and Qatari real estate owners will also be issued residence permits for an annual fee of QR1,000.
Expatriates may be granted permission to take up part-time work outside after their working hours with their sponsors for a monthly fee of QR100. Before applying for such a permission, they will have to secure the approval of their sponsors.
For transferring the visa from an old passport to a new one, the fee has been raised from QR50 to QR100. To effect changes in the name, nationality and designation, the new fee is QR200.
Those who want their entry visa to be changed into work visa without leaving the country will have to pay QR500. For changing the sponsor before the visa is stamped in the passport, an expatriate worker has to pay a fee of QR300.
Students who get dual residency in another GCC country will have to pay an annual fee of QR500. For employees under company sponsorship, the fee for dual residency permit will be QR2,000.
Cancellation of RPs of dependants will cost QR20 and cancellation of worker’s visa QR50.
Foreigners who want to recruit domestic servants have to pay a fee of QR1,500.
Expatriates who want to change their sponsors will be charged QR1,000 for the first time, QR1,500 for the second time and QR2,000 for the third change. For firms, the fee for changing sponsors will be QR2,000, QR2,500 and QR3,000 for the first, second and third times, respectively.
Business visas, extendable up to three months, will be issued for a fee of QR200 for each month.
Visit visas for relatives, extendable up to six months, will be charged QR200 a month.
Non-extendable tourist visas for a month will cost QR100. Visit visas for GCC residents, extendable up to three months, will be also charged QR100 for every month.
A transit visa, valid for a maximum period of 48 hours, will cost QR100.
A resident who loses his visa while abroad will be charged QR200 for issuing a return visa to Qatar.
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I guess we can never stop with the personal attacks. like PM telling hashin.."you started but now....."
canarybird attacking KnoxCollege.. silversurfer attacking hashin.
What the hell is wrong with everyone? (Count me in)
Hi there and Happy New Year to you.
I am not rude if you choose to present your fundalmentalist ideas here it is your choice the thread is about licenses for to work not about polygamy. You tend too turn the words of others around and I take the right to defend myself against knoxcollege it is not your business to get involved in it.
I take the right to make an innocent comment without the whole of the islamic world jumping on me.
knoxcollege
No one forces a girl/woman to marry someone who already has a wife. They do it will their own will. If they dont like to be in polygmous relationship they can always use their right of divocre by women called Khulah. Moreover a man always has to get his wife's approval before he marries another woman.
You lost all concept of the thread.
CB - is Hashin "reachable"?
You have made a light aside. He has reacted in his customary pompous way. So I suggest that he is beyond reaching or reason.
Leave him. Don't go to down to his level, trying to explain / justify something which should have absolutely no need for such on a site like this!
SS
in North America a spouse can work even if her husband is on student visa. I remember reading that in a legal forum.
I guess some people need to learn what a decent conversation is.
Salam all:)
Knox Brother , I don't think Canary meant anything wrong. I personally think the same : 4 wives means 4 sources of troubles :) But.... The none is refuting the position of Islam on that issue. It's not by anyway flattery , but I have to say : Canarybird is one of the wisest users on Ql and she would never though of insulting Islam or Muslims.
However , PM attack on Hashin is really lame.
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No one forces a girl/woman to marry someone who already has a wife. They do it will their own will. If they dont like to be in polygmous relationship they can always use their right of divocre by women called Khulah. Moreover a man always has to get his wife's approval before he marries another woman.
Hashin's resolutions for 2008
- not to take things too seriously,
- and definitely not to take himself quite so seriously.
GET OFF MY BACK and as I said put you pocket book edition on the Quran back in you pocket - there was nothing on my mind as I made that comment.
It is people like you who take trivial remarks and turn them into wars
canary bird said "You need a shrink as anyone in their right mind will not marry four women"
Technically that means anyone who has four wives is insane. (Rubbish)
Even the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) had more than four wives. (19 I heard)
She could have made her point by saying that she does not believe in polygamy. There are two ways to make your point heard across. One to start a fight and the other to do it peacefully. (You were the one wh started this and as I have told you many time knock the chip off your shoulder).
And just so you know, there is only one version of the Holy Quran...
and no one has quoted anything from the Quran so you needn't bring it into this thread...
You said,"You need a shrink as anyone in their right mind will not marry four women - imagine four times the trouble. No No No."
Maybe it was inadvertent, but that is a direct insult on polygamy and anyone who practises it...
You've said everyone who practises polygamy needs to go to a shrink and that they are not in their right minds...
Like I said, you have the right to your opinion and you can say polygamy is wrong, but why does it have to be in an offending manner?
We are all for healthly debate but lets respect everyone as well...
No doubt the government will pick up the tab for those wives employed in that sector.
Incidentally, the topic was raised on an earlier thread asking about salaries for secretary/admin staff.
And your poor foreskin!!
canary bird said "You need a shrink as anyone in their right mind will not marry four women"
Technically that means anyone who has four wives is insane.
Even the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) had more than four wives.
She could have made her point by saying that she does not believe in polygamy. There are two ways to make your point heard across. One to start a fight and the other to do it peacefully.
Stick to the topic my question was just simple. why are you making it a mess.
Keep religion out of this its about the damn licence and the fees.
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I dont think she can unless she has a work visa.... that's tricky... I know plenty of people who just get a fake social security number so they can work
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I made similar (though less well expressed) comments last week - asked Hashin who made him the pope!
I recall that he told someone (was it you) to 'shut up'!!
"In 2008 I will rise above petty irritants"!
SS
Whats the ruling if someone is on a student visa in the U.S and his wife is acompanying him Can she work? Not sure but I think she can.
Qatarlving, Islamicliving, Christianliving, Athesitliving, hinduliving, budshihliving, Judismliving ...!!!!
All living with Peace n Unity ;-) HAPPY NEW LIVING YEAR
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DaRuDe posted that post as a joke he is well aware what is needed so all of you pull back your horses and stop the mini uprising.
not this falling out on NYD!
What happened to your resolution already?!
SS
In 2008 I have no intentions of changing people's religious beliefs, no matter how much hatred they have against any religion. I just expect people to respect the religious beliefs of everyone i.e. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists etc. And this year I will definitely make sure not to insult anyone's religious beliefs.
As for canarybird, I guess we are continuing from 2007? Hope that this year we might reach a settlement.:)
Judismliving too :(
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well said speed!
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I am not contesting the fact, and it had nothing to do with polygamy so don't put your pocket book version of the Qaran in the thread - I did not say it was wrong please read the post properly and get off your high horse - it was a harmelss comment nothing more - in fact what you are writing here is complete rubbish.
Your wives would gang up on you and you'd be crying for help :P
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But the fact is Canarbird polygamy is an accepted practise in Islam
and your comment would be insulting for many Muslims...
You have every right to say polygamy is wrong
but to say everyone who practises it is not in their right mind, need a shrink etc...
that is insulting... lets all respect each other in 2008...
Canary It could be a support to four families if one is wealthy ;-)
Yes it is a headache no doubt but Islamic point of view is different !
by the way KC ... I don't see any attack on Islam directly by Canary ? and she addressed to Dardue not in general !
Think before you react ...
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DaRuDe was only joking, and it is clearly stated and don't kid yourself many expats have more than one wife.
i do know ppl here having 2 or 3 wives never seen any one with four wives and am talking about expatriates not the local
and do i look like i will have 4 wives :/
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This rule is specially for the expatriate and hardly you will find expatriate having four wife.
Second thing this is not only for the wife also any dependent of the expatriate need to get the license.
For example an expatriate having 4 dependent daughters needs 4 license; similarly
4 wife……… of course will require…….. 4 license!....................lol
It's the time when the pocke version of the Quran gets pulled out and references are made.
hashin - what do you mean
knoxcollege started it with his pcket edition of the Quran.
I am not stirring up trouble and even if DaRuDe has four wives I couldn't care less - four wives means four headaches.
In any case it is very quiet here today we could do with a little excitement. lol
Gypsy ... Happy New Year ;-) long time huh !
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that spanking will be alot more fun for me 4 sitting beside me waiting for their turn :D
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Cmon canarybird, why are you stirring up trouble in 2008?
You KNOW Darude does not have four wives... (right Darude?)
Didn't you know Canarybird, this site has now changed from qatarliving to islamicliving, any disagreement with the tenets of islam will end with jihad being declared against you.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
As you know I don't find it necessary to name call nor bash people I stand well above all of that. You have a chip on your shoulder as I keep telling you. If you would take time to look at the things that you write it would serve your pusposes better.
This does not concern me as I made no allegation I only gave my opinion about having four wives.
"If an allegation to the contrary was for the purpose of spreading misinformation it will serve as an opportunity to dispel the myth"
This is all your fault DaRude. I'm going to call up your 4 wives and have them give you a good spanking :P
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
C'mon pal take it easy no hard feelings
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You are always welcome to send me an email/message with your loving thoughts about me. I can assure you that it will not be sent to the trash and shall be thoroughly read.
Your comments show that you also dont give a damn about the thoughts of Muslims.
For you canarybird
"If an allegation to the contrary was for the purpose of spreading misinformation it will serve as an opportunity to dispel the myth"
Don't bother me with you lame comments - you already know what I think about you it not a direct attack on anything is a plain and simple fact - funny how you are always there to hold up Islam in the oddest of places. Get the chip off your shoulder and then we can discuss.
You comment will be considered an insult to many respectable members of this society. Plus it is a direct attack on the Islamic principles. I dont wish to start another religious debate.
You need a shrink as anyone in their right mind will not marry four women - imagine four times the trouble. No No No.
you dont need a license, you need medical insurance as four wives are hard to please.
well if i have 4 wives will one licence work or i have to get for each of them :?
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