Hilton to be demolished? - RUMOUR

Any news on the completion date?

I will to know if the Hilton Hotel is starting and the rooms are already finish or not, because I have a demand for marble a months ago and I have not news.

I'm very nervous.

If you can help me, I will ber very happy.

rumour to one that went round about the Sheraton in the early 80's. It was rumoured that the raft upon which the hotel is built had cracked and collapse was imminent. Is it still there?

I will to know if the Hilton Hotel is starting and the rooms are already finish or not, because I have a demand for marble a months ago and I have not news.

I'm very nervous.

If you can help me

I don't know about this particular tower, but I wouldn't be surprised. I worked on another (very high) tower being built along the Corniche where the foundation contractors had their contract terminated because their piling work was dangerously bad. It was even suggested that they had falsified concrete test results. This is scary when you consider what is being built on top of these foundations. You won't find me going up any high buildings in this part of the world.

LMAO

I'm gonna make a "Leader of Qatar" profile and post monthly rants, seeing as screen names are 100% true.

The Hilton (the client) would obviously be told everything is going to be alright. They are paying the bills after all.

lol, thanks, this really lightned up my day.

i love QL

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Hilton chain of hotels had their roadshow last April 30, 2009 in W Hotel and they confirmed that Hilton Doha will be complete by 2010 where the next roadshow will take place.

I'm surprised Hilton haven't issued a 'take down' notice to QL to get this thread removed.

In Qatar, with the current degree of enforcement of construction and quality standard's, anything can happen! Many of those leading the local construction industry (including authorities) still think that safety and quality are only slogans!

Not too many public catastrophes have yet taken place, due to luck and/or personal honest principles of the individuals who are bending the rebar and pouring the concrete!

And when they do take place, the local press does an excellent job, hiding the facts or softening the event and eventual causes and consequences!

I checked the profile ... she supposed to work for Hilton? Is she working for Hilton in Doha or Hilton international management?

a waste of time, energy & fuloos !

I wonder what the suits at Hilton International would be more annoyed about;

Someone posting rumours on an internet forum about the Hilton Doha being demolished

or

Someone using the name 'Hilton Hotels' to post a comment in response, on behalf of 'Hilton Hotels Corporation'.

I very much doubt the order to respond on here came down from the top, and I doubt they'd be best pleased if they knew about it!

Lol tallg ...

I remember all those new hotels around the city centre area suppose to be open to cater Asian Games 2006

I don't see the big deal, a sunken foundation really isn't that uncommon around the gulf, especially coastal.

They can have it jacked up and pouring, whil the MEP's and interior architects get to work. Fairplay on the Hilton for not wanting people to hate the place before it even opens, but this really is a normal thing for a highrise.

It happens... Demolition is truly the last resort.

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"We can confirm that the project is on track and scheduled for completion in Q1 2010"

When the Hilton Doha was first announced the scheduled opening date was December 2005!!!

Time will tell.

I guess I just don't believe anything I hear anymore.

Let's start a thread about all the rumors we've heard that proved to be false :-D

I dunno, this one seems to have a bit more behind it than the usual rumours you hear. My feeling is that there is a problem, but it can be rectified without being demolished, and Hilton Hotels are (understandably) on a damage limitation exercise.

tallg, this is Doha! As I mentioned above, and KH did too, these types of rumors have been circulating about various buildings for as long as they've been building them.

How the heck can you ever verify how the many and varied rumors in this town get started??

It's a form of entertainment in this town!

Hilton Hotels - Any ideas how the rumour started? Seems that more than one person has been telling the story.

Hilton Hotels Corporation and the hotel's owning company, New Doha Hotel Company would like to advise that the negative claim posted on qatarliving.com on April 17, 2009 regarding the Hilton Doha property which is currently under construction in Qatar, is untrue.

We can confirm that the project is on track and scheduled for completion in Q1 2010, when we look forward to welcoming guests.

PM - if you were walking from Sheraton to Four Seasons, Hilton is the next building after the Four Seasons (just past the Four Seasons apartments).

I know one (or two?) of the towers at the ends of City Center is supposed to be the Shangri-La, so it's likely that is the picture linked to.

PM, it's the one that says 'Hilton' at the top ;-)

Hilton isn't one of the twin towers. Perhaps the one you're referring to is the Shangri-La, as mentioned by who.am.i earlier (which is part of twin towers)

Now that sounds plausable.

As we all know taxi drivers know everything.

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I heard from a taxi driver that a UFO landed on the Hilton and that is why it is now leaning. The reason the other places are sinking is because there has been so much oil and gas taken from the earth that all of Qatar and the middle east will soon sink into the center which is why the US has no desire to stay over here.

“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”

That a boy Ashok. Convince the masses

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Ashok - there are four people on here saying they've heard this from various sources. Perhaps you could ask around for us and see if you can find any more information out about it.

The Heading about Hilton at Qatar is absolutely wrong. and whoever has written his comments on the demolition is bullshit.

My name is Ashok Kumar working as a Project Manager at Hilton Hotel since the beginning of the work. there is nothing like that the Hotel Hilton is alright and going to be finished very soon. The Interior works for the hotel has already started. There is absolutely no problem for the structures at all.

You can't teach experience...

lol this is just crazy.

As I say, there are too many companies which are reactive rather than proactive.

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Soon to be an ex-GM if all this is right, I should think.

My guy is privy to most things related to his field in this country.

He was surprised to find out that i knew about this on Qatar Living though, as he said he learned of this a few back and was sworn to secrecy, as was everyone else.

Quite some GM there, gets in his cups and he lets the wrong people know.

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an indepth study shall be conducted on the structure specifically the foundation,i doubt that the invistigations taken resulted negative impact on its foundation,however,to further validate and confirm the outcome of the study ,the owners shall commission an experts / consultants specialising this kind of problem to re-evaluate further...am sure remedial measures has to be taken instead of knocking down the structure..

i'd love 2 see that building come down it's simply huge

I think you will find that in Qatari law there is no defence to defamation on the grounds of justification. In other words, if you publish something bad about a person/organisation you are potentially in deep doodoo regardless of whether it is true.

Your structural engineer friend seems to have leaked confidential and sensitive information about his company to you. If proven to be false, your friend and his firm can be sued by the developer for either defamation, or breach of confidentiality agreement, or both. He has to prove, on balance of probabilities, that his assertion about the structural integrity of the building is technically correct.

Is he in a position to do that now? If he is in a position to do that now, and therefore his assertion is proven to be true, surely the authorities or the contractor would have cordoned off the construction site for safety reasons by now.

Building's foundation being held up by compressed sand and gypsum? ... as advised by whom? The structural engineer or geotechnical engineer?

There will be a three-day "Exhibition on Construction" between the 28th and 30th April 2009 at the Qatar Exhibition Centre. You may wish to get free and expert advise from the exhibitors on foundation failures and their remedies.

"I hope such issues are also raised in Western society without fear of any bounce back"

wtf???

everything is because of the west, you've been too long in the ME.You should know that already ;)

Im sure the writer before raising the issue must have realized its impact on public platform.

I hope such issues are also raised in Western society without fear of any bounce back. Im concerned to the poor friend who mentioned this issue to the worthy writer must be feeling embarrasment.

In case the issue is correct, developers / contractors are the only one who will be facing sad situation and that too in present crucial economic situation. Not people like us who are just killing leisure moments in posting our comments.

I may suggest, being member of the wonderful society of Qatar, lets help each other in solving the situation. Thank you

Chaos at the builders/engineers! Perhaps they may be calling for the recently terminated Srilankan perhaps LTTE, Jaffna native person. They also fired at their own country cricket team recently in Pakistan.

its true the GM is a egyptian guy born a brought up in UAE who was previously working for hilton al ain... i got the news through him........its not a hoax.

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

Ha Ha Ha!!! It seems that someone wanted someone to chekout some adjacent hotel and to come to his place for the night(s)!

Fake, hoax

Lol, KH!

On topic - I'm waiting with bated breath for some more twists and turns to this story.

/Was hoping for some action... not the kind of voyeurism Who.am.I et al indulge in but.. Damn! No explosions or implosions???

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

Samael, is your company the one building it? If not, how is he privy to this data?

Thanks SAMAEL.

Just spoke to one of our head of structural at my company, and he confirmed it. Apparently it has sunk 1 meter. It can be repaired by jacking and pumping, but will be very expensive...

Damn, no explosion.

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The Tower of Pisa leans at 5.5 degrees, so nothing to worry about yet!

and some C4 just in case

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I propose a QL outing to the Hilton to measure the angle. Every one bring their protractors and plumb lines!

Can't remember the exact numbers, but if it is over a certain hight, 2.5 degrees is alarming. You wouldn't really notice it

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It is a big IF whether this is true. I drove past it the other week and it didn't appear to be leaning at all, let alone at an alarming angle. Of course I wasn't looking for it to be leaning though!

Yep, The barber was on the ground floor when i first came to Doha

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LOL KH, great formula forr erection!.......from now on all the construction firms should stack their structural members in the laydown area and bring down Paris Hilton,and all members will get erect automatically!

The Sheraton may have sunk 135 cm in 27 years.Who knows!

the story is true and IF Paris Hilton inspect the leaning thingie. Am sure it will erect straight in no time and will penetrate the ozone layer :D

This story gives another example of Doha boredom consequences. Such rumors are floating for decades and taking different shapes. I remember when the Sheraton was being constructed, rumors started about its sinking 5 cms each year. Now after 27 years, it is still in place and in good shape. ===================================== http://www.qatarliving.com/node/58409

If what I'd heard in bars was all true, Ras Laffan would have been a smoking hole in the ground years ago. Has anybody observed the alarming leaning of this building? It was in a couple of photos I took a few days ago and it looked upright then.

who.am.i - the original post says "the unfinished Hilton hotel". The post also mentions the Four Seasons, which the Hilton is right next, whereas the Shangri-La isn't that close to it.

Who.am.I, you see Paris Hilton from your bedroom every day? you voyeur!.... now I am beginning to wonder who leaked those tapes.

i am sure ShangriLa will be over the moon :) Wont be surprise if they pull out to manage the property ...

They said that the foundation of the U/C Shangri-la Hotel (beside City Center) plunged 3 meters below. It couldn't be Hilton, I can see Hilton everyday from my bedroom and its still being constructed.

Will Paris Hilton come to Doha for inaugurating the the "demolition ceremony"?

I think it's not Hilton, its the Shangri-la!

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

HaHa....... A Leaning Tower full of Pizza!!

What sort of claim would he raise???

I know poeple people who are working in that project and as far as I know there is nothing like you said. If the owner of this project reads what you wrote he may raise a claim against you,so make sure that you have the correct information.

right shyams ... i will say it was 'partyly true' :)

Novita, yes i had been hearing the rumour of rydges too since two years. Now the hotel is evacuated but not going to be demolished as the rumours around.. the building is going to be used by the govt now..

for Hilton. Implosion is the solution to bring down the building, if its truly gonna be... implosion is done every where in NY dense city.. so not a big deal.....

remember 'Rydges Rumour' was around for years, then in the end 'rumour come true'.

Boom, boom time i guess. If it's true...

I've also heard the story...who knows Hotel Hilton could be the next pizza Tower of the world!

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Been hearing these types of rumors about one tower or another ever since they started building them.

If it is so...I would appreciate the authorities!

foundation breaking could be due to differential settlement and thats where geotechnology matters. I haven't seen that building but if thats the case, its bringing down could be very. If the area geo is such then the design has to be different

If that's true then all I can say is WOW! What a screw up!

can't be true!