how bad can attractive gurls be harrased in Doha?

tamercd
By tamercd

Well i'm only asking this after goin accross a blog which made me feel that attractive gurls or those who might be wearing a bit of short or tight stuff might have to deal with losers trying to make their day,i just wanna know to which extend and can a gurl,if were bugged or offended call the cops or maybe get her older brother and just make him spill some blood out of the cute guy's face?

By anonymous• 3 Apr 2007 01:11
anonymous

Who the hell r u refering to? Who said i was bothering someone?

By dragonfly212• 2 Apr 2007 23:43
dragonfly212

Gypsy I agree with you totally. Why should we changed our lives because some d*** head cannot control their dirty mind. I got harrased almost everyday but I dont give a S*** what they said to me as long as they do not touch me. I just totally ignore them and I keep walking. I sleep better at nite and never bothered with this thing. Go girl. Do your thing and dont worry too much about this idiot every where.

By anonymous• 2 Apr 2007 23:18
anonymous

Its easy to violate the RULES.. Neo in the Matrix also had to inevitably succumb to the temptations of the sub conscious mind...

THAT IS TRUE ONLY IN THE MOVIES of course......

By King Edshel• 2 Apr 2007 21:49
King Edshel

I want to ask some of the girls who dress in very nice sexy fashions that we see all the time. What are her intentions? Look good or being attractive? In this case she got what she was seeking.Men get attracted to here, but unfortunately the men that she likes and does not like too. You can expect the only men that you like to be the only ones who get attracted to you. You should expect all. I know that this is not an excuse and everyone should get control of him/herself, but some people looks for breaking the rules and getting the attention of other people and that is what sometimes happen. It is unforgivable for anyone to tease any woman or jump like that and start talking, because he felt something. What is more unforgivable is when you come to some women who are seeking nothing, but shopping or having a good time walking or jogging to find someone for unknown reason trying to play the role of Rumio with this lady.

Finally,

If you do like these kind of things to happen to your mother,sister or wife, Then the other people does not like the same that you like.

By Ivanhoe• 2 Apr 2007 17:26
Ivanhoe

Men should save their 'affections/attentions' for women they know and follow their cultural/religious norms for attracting/securing a partner.

This other sort of behaviour is what the men are doing and is never intended to make others feel good.

Can someone translate this for cutesrk for me as he is far too educated to understand me or this line of thinking...

By Ivanhoe• 2 Apr 2007 17:25
Ivanhoe

Men should save their 'affections/attentions' for women they know and follow their cultural/religious norms for attracting/securing a partner.

This other sort of behaviour is what the men are doing and is never intended to make others feel good.

Can someone translate this for cutesrk for me as he is far too educated to understand me or this line of thinking...

By anonymous• 1 Apr 2007 12:47
anonymous

SO TELL ME THEN WHY YOU ARE SO BITTER AND TWISTED AGAINST THE WEST AND IN PARTICULAR THE BRITISH???

ARE YOU JUDGING ALL BRITS BY WHAT MEDIA CRAP YOU SEE ON TV?

By Gypsy• 1 Apr 2007 09:59
Gypsy

Oh you poor baby boys! LOL. You guys are complaining about a couple of girls hitting on you once, or a gay guy trying once! Try getting that every day! Try getting attacked and verbally abused!

There are no enforced harrasment laws in Doha for anyone but Qatari women.

By hamadaCZ• 31 Mar 2007 12:38
hamadaCZ

even some men get harassed by other men,once a guy was trying to hit on me,I don't mind gays as long as they stay away from me!!!!!!

does anyone knows about harassment law here?

By Terramax• 31 Mar 2007 01:49
Terramax

Pardon me my French, but "gurls" cannot be "harrased" anywhere and not only in Doha. Simply because both words don't exist.

By azilana7037• 30 Mar 2007 15:15
azilana7037

I'd like to know where I can get one of those. There are incidents wherein the lady hit the guy for touching her. Police came and spoke with the guy in Arabic, and the end was the guy claimed it was the lady who assaulted and insulted him. Good thing though, her friend happened to come along and was able to help her.

So, does this mean that even with those gadgets, women couldn't defend themselves against these lunatics?

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

By anonymous• 30 Mar 2007 13:49
anonymous

Stop mocking and accept the facts.....u knucklehead

I have seen more lunatics arnd the wrld.....

WHATS UR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND? AND IF SO ARE U A BRIT TO COUNTER THAT ARGUMENT WITH SOME EGOCENTRIC DIALOGUE.....

By anonymous• 30 Mar 2007 13:37
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

Do any of you (women) carry Pepper Spray (Mace) or Tazers?

If not, I seriously recommend it. I'd love to watch some these backed up jerks get sprayed/shocked. Go on, make my day. ;-) Start with the Food Court at City Centre. I'm there for lunch almost everyday.

ORYX - I find your comments on people from the sub-continent degrading and racist. Even though most low paid labourers here are from the sub-continent and they do act despicably, it does not give you the automatic right to make such generalising comments.

By Templar• 30 Mar 2007 13:11
Templar

mmm chartered accountant, explains a lot.

You have seen the world, and you still have a twisted perspective? Guess there aint much hope for this specimen ladies and gentlemen.

And on that note, i refuse to troll feed anymore! Good day!

By anonymous• 30 Mar 2007 12:59
anonymous

Lack of moral values was cited as one of the reason or could be one of the reasons. And not the only reason. And more or less stop circumventing around the topic.....

That was my opinion Rest depends on how u react to it......And second thng dude u r generalising it as if it is a stereotype....

And dude i m getting sick of ur trite remarks I am a chartered Accountant and I have seen the world my dear

By Templar• 30 Mar 2007 12:39
Templar

Again with your drivel...

The women in Doha have a lack of moral values, and thats why they are harassed??

What a crock of s**t!

These are the women that you have been attempting to date in other threads! Because of their lack of morals you think you stand a better chance of getting some?

Especially after the verbal diarohhea you have been spouting the past few days, think again my friend...

And a parting thought. Please throw away your PC and go get an education. Better yet, go travel some, and see the world for what it really is.

By Scorpio• 30 Mar 2007 12:32
Scorpio

Ahhh Cutesrk, you poor soul. I'm not even going to respond, it's not worth the effort.

I'll just say calling people names and abusing people on here is really going to help you make friends. Way to go, keep up the good work..lol..

By anonymous• 30 Mar 2007 12:17
anonymous

Hi scorpio stop being sarcastic u moron !

The topic starts from attactive girls beng harrassed in Doha..Why are they being so. bcoz of lack of moral values thats one reason that was cited.....

Who deviates from the topic thru to the end.....

By Scorpio• 30 Mar 2007 11:52
Scorpio

Your comments are seriously not even worth responding to as you have obviously not read the posts of this thread....which part of "ladies dressing modestly and are still being harassed" did you not understand.

I'm thinking we all put in dosh to pay for Cutesrk's "free dinner" if it means he stops posting all this garble.

Have a nice day :p

By anonymous• 30 Mar 2007 11:27
anonymous

Whats the whole point of freedom?? If girls view it as harrasment then why do they wear revealing clothes and impair the judgement of every male.... Seirous crisis to be addressed,,

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 11:16
qatarisun

is there something wrong with this site? or with my comp? or with me? ..lol...

By King Edshel• 30 Mar 2007 11:16
King Edshel

Sometimes the situation is getting even worse. A guy was chased before by a woman on the streets. He looks handsome and she were trying to talk to him before in corniche, but he refused. She continue that while he does not even look at her or respond to that. What happened in the end is she hit his car by her car to force him to stop and it happened. Worse than that when the cops came she told them that this guy was following me all the way and i was afraid and did not know what to do so I hit the breaks and he crashed my car from behind.

What else can I say? This incident is recorded in 1998.

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 11:15
qatarisun

sorry.. double post

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 11:14
qatarisun

sorry guys, double post

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 11:11
qatarisun

double post

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 11:11
qatarisun

i guess, sometimes they get some positive response...

By Cornellian• 30 Mar 2007 10:19
Cornellian

Damn even men get harrassed over here ? It's insane. I was going to call the call the cops on this guy who insisted on paying for my groceries and after I refused, paid and walk away...he kept following me! Fortunately, I ran into someone I know and the guy just vanished...they're cowards! I don't understand why such harrassments happen, are people here deprived of women (and as the above post shows...men as well!)? I mean why do people waste their time harassing other when they clearly know that they're going to be either ignored or called the cops on ? I just don't understand their mentality.

By qatarisun• 30 Mar 2007 09:55
qatarisun

here not only the women who get harrased. How about this kind of story?

I am sitting with my friend - attractive Lebanese guy of 27 years old - and drinking argilli. 3 Qatari Ladies are sitting next table. One of them made 3 (three) attempts to draw my friend's attention! First - by asking some question (in arabic, as she knew that I can not understand it). Second - by showing him her mobile with her phone number (she pretended herself that she needs some help with her mobile, but he told me later, that she just wanted him to remember her number), and third time after he ignored first two, she asked the waiter to pass him a tissue with her phone number. After that my friend said that he has had enough, paid for shisha, which we barely started and we left...

By Lexis• 30 Mar 2007 08:48
Lexis

are men allowed to marey another woman whale there family is in a state? whale his wife is in the state are they able to walk around with other woman?

By Templar• 30 Mar 2007 06:38
Templar

So say my wife is getting hassled while im around (my wife is Malaysian, so from reading this thread she will get more abuse than usual?). What happens if i kick the f*** out of the offending parties? Do i go to jail?

By intelligentconversation• 29 Mar 2007 19:21
intelligentconversation

Had a recent encounter with some young boys who thought it would be amusing to shake my car and scream obscenities whilst my husband was at a shop. Imagine... I was quite shaken we called the police and they were very cooperative. We filed an offical report. I was given the choice to call them in, as we had taken their plate number and descriptions for further investigation and to be locked up until a court hearing would be arranged or a warning would be submitted with a standard fine imposed. As we realised that they were young and probably "High" we opted for the second option.

So the next time anyone may feel threatened... do not hesistate do call the police. They are helpful & understanding.

Take care all!

By tamercd• 29 Mar 2007 17:27
tamercd

First to GYPSY:

from what i see u probably are convicted of being beautiful or fashionable,because i can see that u are very angry,that means u go through this a lot,chill out gurl,u're just one of millions,just take care and live normally.

Second:beleive me guys,here is so much better than my original country,which is better i think than other countries in the region disregarding the names,so don't amplify it,its a lot better here.

And,if that campaign we held here can be forwarded to any officials or maybe women's society here, maybe we can start a change somehow,at least,make a big noise about it,and i would lead,though that i guess some may confuse me for a gurl,i'm not:P

i got some mails telling me hang on sis and stuff:P

He Who Makes A bEAST oF hIMSeLF, gETS rID of ThE pAIN oF bEING a man

By Lou• 29 Mar 2007 14:48
Rating: 3/5
Lou

Honestly, in the last few days i'm getting fed up of this harrasment and i have a new theory that abaya is acctually liberation cause i doubt that anybody would act like these scums act if i was covered in black from head to toes.

The other day i was walking infront of the city center and a guy whistled to me and said something. i stopped, came back and started yelling at him so loud that people acctually stopped and looked at me! he started appologizing and walked away. I was really near hitting him cause i was fed up with this kind of behaviour, but i didn't want to get into trouble cause he would not be in one. it would be me.

this is not a very nice county for a woman!

By r7• 29 Mar 2007 14:39
r7

U think thr is any kind of solution to this ???!! There r always goona b trouble makers and perv's no mater where you go... I think the only way u can go on is 2 just b smart and to notice ur surroundings... and try not to make trouble for urselves coz honestly if u need to live here and do ur day 2 day stuff... u need to find a way to do that........ Whatever it might be ...

By the truth 321• 29 Mar 2007 14:37
the truth 321

solution.

Wait for the police to do something about it...

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We came we saw we were Qatarized

By Lou• 29 Mar 2007 14:31
Rating: 4/5
Lou

Honestly, in the last few days i'm getting fed up of this harrasment and i have a new theory that abaya is acctually liberation cause i doubt that anybody would act like these scums act if i was covered in black from head to toes.

The other day i was walking infront of the city center and a guy whistled to me and said something. i stopped, came back and started yelling at him so loud that people acctually stopped and looked at me! he started appologizing and walked away. I was really near hitting him cause i was fed up with this kind of behaviour, but i didn't want to get into trouble cause he would not be in one. it would be me.

this is not a very nice county for a woman!

By the truth 321• 29 Mar 2007 14:31
Rating: 3/5
the truth 321

Charmed knows how to use a knife in a defensive situation, all the non lethal items you mentioned are unavailable and illegal in Qatar.

A knife is the only form of defence that she could get a hold of, its either that or face a possibility of something far worse than what some men over here is fair play with women.

If a knife is pulled in the same scenario as Charmed has faced previously then the SCUM will drive off or quickly run, if he wants to keep coming then he faces a very nasty accident.

It is written that any man under islam cannot approach a woman unless mother/sister etc...so if he would like to explain to police why he was stabbed by a western woman...well thats for him to try.

We came we saw we were Qatarized

By JotaB• 29 Mar 2007 14:20
JotaB

Charmed, please please think of something else to carry! Adding a weapon to a physical situation will inevitably end up in it being used on you. Mace, pepper spray, stun guns are all non lethal and require far less training to use in a defensive manner. Knives are used for one goal, to kill and unless you are some secret ninja that we don't know about, it will only make any threatening situation worse!

By charmed• 29 Mar 2007 14:13
charmed

will i get in trouble for this?? I carry a flick ***** of course for when i break down and need to fix my car he he he!!

By Gypsy• 29 Mar 2007 14:11
Gypsy

We invite trouble regardless of the way we are dressed or how we act. Acting like meek kittens and looking to your husband for protection isn't going to stop those guys from doing it again.

By gypsy gal• 29 Mar 2007 14:09
Rating: 2/5
gypsy gal

Wearing a veil is not the solution..Even women wearing veil get harassed. I do ware Jeans.. skirt.. formal trousers…coat etc… What matters is…how you carry yourself in that attire…all these western dresses can be worn in a decent way as well. Only if you are conscious about your dressing… you feel that everyone is looking at you.

When I go out with my hubby I do look at people who stare at me and I point the person to him and the man in question just vanish...I do agree there are many desperate men just satisfy themselves with such antics... ..What I was trying to say is if we are little careful...WE CAN AVOID INVITING TROUBLE.

By Withnail• 29 Mar 2007 14:03
Withnail

what is cheap to buy and makes you feel safe?

By charmed• 29 Mar 2007 13:53
Rating: 4/5
charmed

something on you which makes you feel safe. Thats what i do now, there cheap to buy and easy to use!! I dont even notice the stares know i think you just get so used to it!! i think you become immune! Just do what makes you feel safe i finally figured that one out!

And yes women do get pestered in the west too, but in a different way its normally when there out in bars or clubs and such like , its a different type of harassing. Jotb is correct when he talks about the way western women are percieved by men out here, i mean just turn your tv on! How many channels have i at home with a half naked white women naked chatting down a phone, or the other channels which have half naked women dancing about on them! Or even the tv programmes for that matter from the usa were they all hop into bed with each other! No wonder the men see us western ladies this way!

By ooo• 29 Mar 2007 13:37
ooo

No, I honestly think women should react instead of adapting … ergo the self defense/offence classes so that I can learn how to (properly) beat somebody up :)

By Gypsy• 29 Mar 2007 13:28
Gypsy

I just can't stand this stupid idea that we women should be the ones to change and to victimize ourselves simply because men can't or don't want to control themselves. If a man can't look at a women without turning into an animal than hows about they wear the veil, not us.

By tpm112• 29 Mar 2007 13:25
tpm112

I've only been here a few months but have realised that common courtesy (i.e saying 'good morning', smiling) to/at someone is often mistaken as a come on. So... what do I do? Change my behaviour? Not make eye contact with anyone? Keep my eyes to the ground? Walk around with a permanent scowl on my face? No, I shall continue to be my outgoing and friendly self. I am prepared to make some sacrifices while I'm here - changing the way I dress, for example. However, I am not prepared to make changes in the way I interact with people.

By Gypsy• 29 Mar 2007 13:09
Gypsy

"Rule 1 : When in public, where proper dress ….. not so exposing ..you know what I mean. (Avoid

short skirts…low cut necks…too tight body hugging dresses….skirts with long slits…etc)

Rule 2 : Never look at people around you, you concentrate on what you want to do… if you are

shopping ..just do that… if you are walking just listen to your Ipod and keep walking

…..dont bother to see you all are looking at you.

Rule 3 : Never smile at Strangers.

Rule 4 : Try not to go out alone."

Why not just say give up your life completely? Wear a veil? Never go outside.

Acting like a scared pussy cat isn't going to change anything Apple. You're just doing what they want you to do. Get some courage for God's sake.

By JotaB• 29 Mar 2007 13:02
JotaB

"What exactly do Western Values mean? Does it mean dressing in a mini skirt going to a local club and getting leered over by a group of drunk chavs trying to chat you up- and then not taking “no” for an answer- which ineveitably results in some uncomfortable situations…??"

Wrong end of the stick Caeser, clearly demonstrating my point. Any girl heading to a bar in a mini skirt in any Wetern country is aware that she will attract attention, particularly off drunken chavs as you put it.

However a woman trying to do the shopping to feed her family and dressed in a perfectly conservative manner getting followed, harassed, touched or worse is not acceptable neither to Western nor, as i understand it, Islamic culture.

The fact that Western woman often have adult relationships willingly and unashamedly before marriage leads many Middle Eastern males to presume that they have no morals or values by their standards and are therefore at the very least approachable and at worst, a second class citizen not worthy of respect. This mis-conception leads the harassment that so many women on this forum have testified to. I am not saying Qatar is alone in this, i have seen the exact same situation in West Africa and throughout the Middle and Far East though i suspect that in this case, this argument may be falling on deaf ears.

Don't be so sensitive Caesar, this isn't a case of West is better than East. Anyone living in another culture should be aware that what works at home, does not necessarily translate that well in another environment. If you'd like to give us a monologue on the moral downfall of western culture, i'm sure we'd all love to hear it! Does the idea of a woman dressing provocatively in her home country offend you in some way? Should she not have that right?

By ooo• 29 Mar 2007 12:56
ooo

True, you do get harassed in the west as well but sometimes. Here it is just constant, all the time, by anybody no matter what/where/how. I just cannot forget the feeling on my first day here, all I wanted to do was to find a place and hide! Wherever I turned somebody was looking at me, very uncomfortable. You do get used to it though … at least to the stares.

By cjpdad27• 29 Mar 2007 12:28
cjpdad27

I think this is a problem faced in a lot of places(I am not saying everywhere. I am not country bashing). I can't speak for them all. Women have issues in the west as well (I am not opening this to debate. I am simply saying they have issues there as well). Anyway, this is an unfortunate problem. I certainly wouldn't know if Qatar is worse than anywhere else. Really does it matter? If there is one case of harassment than it's too much right? A quick knee to the "boys" will probably do the trick. LOL

I find it humorous that once again cutesrk makes it a western problem or a western fault. It almost has me rolling laughing at how pathetic he is.

By Withnail• 29 Mar 2007 12:10
Rating: 3/5
Withnail

my wife gets harrassed in Cairo too. she takes taxis alone but she always sits in the back, makes sure her wedding ring is visible, and has 2 made up sons which she briefly mentions since our marriage is more respected when we have kids, especially boys.

in Cairo, if someone is bothering you, you make a huge fuss and yell your a$$ off. that will draw a crowd and the offender usually takes off before that happens. there's a lot of scum here too, but there are also some good egyptians who find this behavior towards western women unacceptable, and they'll usually help.

i'm wondering if qatar is worse, or have my wife and i gotten used to this rubbish. having read the above, it sounds like Qatar might be worse.

not good.

By Scorpio• 29 Mar 2007 11:33
Rating: 2/5
Scorpio

I get harassed constantly by men in this place, even though I do dress very modestly. It has to be the most hypocritical country I've been in.

Solution

Take a digital camera everywhere you go and take photos of these creeps as the stare and leer your way. Trust me, they run so quickly when you point a camera to their face. It's quite funny watching there reaction as they run or turn bright red from the embarrassment.

By tamercd• 29 Mar 2007 11:18
tamercd

Well since i posted the issue i should join back again,i just came to the office.

Well the reason i asked that question is that i had apparently an illusion that qatar is like dubai,or at least dubai as i saw it.

Dubai is one major sluts pot,but still u wouldn't dare to stop in the street and try to just smell her perfume,if u wanna wake up next day in dubai still,and i moved from my country due to many social and human issues that i couldn't just endure,i'm not the kind of guy who can go with the flow,and i can't be with my wife all the time,though i try to,but even still being overprotective ensures security but still limits her own space to be on her own sometimes,and i understand she needs to,so that was the reason i am inquiring,but still,for all u gurls here,what u see here u will find it in anywhere in the world,and i am not looking for utopia,just balance.

Qatar is fine if this is as far as goes,and hopefully,men,all men disregarding social,religious aspects,can just let women breathe and feel secured to live,unless she herself wants something else,she'll have her way to declare it.

Now that was long:P

He Who Makes A bEAST oF hIMSeLF, gETS rID of ThE pAIN oF bEING a man

By gypsy gal• 29 Mar 2007 10:12
Rating: 3/5
gypsy gal

Important points to remember when dealing with sick morons who try to harass women.

Rule 1 : When in public, where proper dress ….. not so exposing ..you know what I mean. (Avoid

short skirts…low cut necks…too tight body hugging dresses….skirts with long slits…etc)

Rule 2 : Never look at people around you, you concentrate on what you want to do… if you are

shopping ..just do that… if you are walking just listen to your Ipod and keep walking

…..dont bother to see you all are looking at you.

Rule 3 : Never smile at Strangers.

Rule 4 : Try not to go out alone.

Rule 5 : Just ignore people who try to approach you… if they are crossing the limits…try to call the

Security or threaten to call the cop, you can always call 999.

Rule 6 : Never go to isolated places alone.

Rule 7 : If someone is following your car….. slow down and let them overtake you, and can take a

different turn.

I am here in Qatar for quite sometime….. I do shop alone…..or shop with my lil boy. I do go out to the Corniche or the park. I don’t even see my friends or colleagues until they call me by name or say hi. I just don’t care about the people around me. Never faced any such problems apart from some jobless losers following my car at times….but I manage to mislead them with wrong indicators…lol .

I know many of you wont agree with me…but the fact is we cannot change these perverts….all we can do is to be a bit cautious……and ignore them.

By r7• 29 Mar 2007 10:01
r7

All I can say is Ladies watch ur backs.. ANd as much as u can don't b out to late by yourselves, its just too much of a risk here

By WaRider• 29 Mar 2007 09:28
WaRider

If I ever see some of those perverts doing this front of me, they better f***ing RUN.

By WaRider• 29 Mar 2007 09:25
WaRider

I'm Muslim, but this is far away from my religion. This should be neither accepted nor tolerated. Those people who think this is the way things go here and women should deal with it...Go F*** yourself.

I'm really disgusted! what a shame!

By charmed• 29 Mar 2007 09:08
charmed

hasel i have had out here since i have been out here. Women get hasseled like mad out here espeically if a women walks around alone ( or with dogs!!)!The fact is if you are female you will get harrassed and pestered beyond belief!! its no way to live your life out here and gypsy is right ( and dont thingk for one second that you are stupid when you get in a taxi bless you), but what can we do about it? the police dont take it seriously, no-one takes it seriously.... i know carry a weapon around with me, i will have no problem hurting the next guy who tries it on with me. the looks, sneerings, smirking i can handel and but the men approach you and dont leave up then its time for action! What can they do to me, this is a muslim country from what i have read and studied a man shouldnt be approching me if hes not my husband, cousin etc from what i can tell im in my right to hurt him!!

By Oryx• 29 Mar 2007 07:51
Rating: 3/5
Oryx

Please note the harrassers are not just Arabic men.

You can dress from head to toe... be old enough to be their grandmother and you still get problems.

Because there is no mechanism to report this behaviour then the perpetrators act with impunity.

Go for a little walk along the beach in Al Wakra and some scum will be whacking off in the mangroves.

I really haven't got the time to write up all the incidences but a lot of Indian sub-continent (sub-human?) males need a good kick in the goolies. Shameful scum.

I have never had problems with Qatari men.

I feel deeply sorry for the Asian ladies and Black ladies...they get it worse. its bad enough being European

And nice men:- if you c this! It is polite to ask if you can help.

And FYI you can still get hassle in Ninja outfit.

By Templar• 29 Mar 2007 05:48
Templar

*goes to buy wife a black ninja outfit*

By ooo• 29 Mar 2007 05:45
ooo

I agree with what has been said. It doesn’t matter how you look, dress or what you do they are going to bother you one way or another. It’s very annoying to say the least, I had to give up walking because of that and even so they still manage to hassle me one way or another … at times I feel like beating somebody up myself, maybe I should enroll in some self defense class : )

By Templar• 29 Mar 2007 05:25
Templar

8 days until i land in doha...not encouraging for my wife!

By Q____View• 29 Mar 2007 01:26
Rating: 2/5
Q____View

If you have indeed faced such situations Gypsy, then that's terrible.

Makes the player who circles around hitting on every girl at a bar on a Sat night, seem like an angel.

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By Gypsy• 29 Mar 2007 01:08
Gypsy

I've had guys wack off at me in public, try and get in my car, I had a cabbie pull over to the side of the road and try and get in the back seat with me, I've been followed around stores, constantly honked at, shouted at, leered at. The cops here could care less and have said as much because I am a Western woman and should simply expect these things to happen to me.

It's gotten to the point now, like in the case with the cabbie, that I've started to blame myself for this happening, like "oh, I was stupid, I shouldn't have gotten into the cab alone.". This is no way for a girl to live her life.

By ducky• 29 Mar 2007 00:55
ducky

It's completely uncalled for. You didn't make a point at all. You asked a question regarding whether islamic law is lax or rigid. You didn't tie it in to the topic at all. In my earlier post, I assumed that you were going to make some sort of tie-in about how islamic law would make it safer for women. However, you stated that your query was misinterpreted...

So what were you trying to say?

And since I really don't care to be nice to someone who's told me to f**k off.....i've read some of your posts and you tend to ramble...a lot. You tend to say a bunch of stuff without making a single point. Not only that, but a lot of your ramblings make absolutely no sense at all.

You pride yourself on your skill with the english language but when others either don't understand what you are trying to say or if they disagree with you, you show your complete mastery of the english language by telling them to f** off. Brilliant, maestro.

Seriously, if you're going to post, at least proof-read your stuff and see if it makes sense.

and to show you my mastery of the english language...

Bite me!

By anonymous• 29 Mar 2007 00:27
anonymous

My point is damn f*** simple... If u cant get it then F*** off

By ducky• 29 Mar 2007 00:07
ducky

if you have a point to make, then make it.

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 23:55
anonymous

Eh Lady Change ur perception about us....

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 23:52
anonymous

NO body is imposing Islamic laws on the expatriate community.. Thats not how my query had to be interpreted.......

its how are the laws in light of the expatriate population?

IS it as stringent in Saudi arabia or lax like in Dubai?

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 23:46
anonymous

NO body is imposing Islamic laws on the expatriate community.. Thats not how my query had to be interpreted.......

its how are the laws in light of the expatriate population?

IS it as stringent in Saudi arabia or lax like in Dubai?

By ducky• 28 Mar 2007 23:31
Rating: 4/5
ducky

Islamic laws are not imposed upon the expatriate community. If the laws WERE imposed, it still wouldn't make a difference. I saw two Qatari men (boys, really, based on how they were acting) following a Qatari woman (the guys in thobes, the lady in her abaya and head wrap) at the Landmark Mall the other day. She went into a lingerie store and one of the guys followed her in, pretending to shop for negligees etc. When she walked out, he tried to pick her up. I think he even tried to grab her, based on how she backed away and starting telling him off...pretty feisty gal. She also had a bodyguard with her - lucky her because these guys were like dogs in heat and I don't think they would have given up very easily. Even after they became aware of the bodyguard, they STILL tried to follow her.

thus, if one tries to make the argument that imposing islamic law on expatriates will reduce the harrassment towards women, nope, that's not going to happen.

By azilana7037• 28 Mar 2007 23:10
azilana7037

Trying to hijack this thread, eh Cutesrk?

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 22:57
anonymous

Are Islamic laws stringent upon the expatriate community working in Qatar? Kindly clarify.....

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 22:50
anonymous

Are Islamic laws stringent upon the expatriate community working in Qatar? Kindly clarify.....

By King Edshel• 28 Mar 2007 22:39
Rating: 2/5
King Edshel

It is really so painful to hear such stories. My colleague is Filipino and she was talking with me that day about such stories, the least bad one [which is bad enough] was about her experience going to the area near Souq Al-Asiri where men start asking and wondering if she is available and if for how much would she ask if they talk to her.

She was telling me the story holding the tears in her eyes and she told me that the bad part was that these guys were Filipinos too. She was wondering if my own country men think this way, how would the other guys and people think of us? It would be really bad, I told her that the very nice thing about Filipino people is that they are very friendly and get along with people so quick and easy. Some sick people get the wrong idea and misjudge you for that.

It seems that being good, kind and nice to someone had became part of the past and something very rare and strange in this world. Some people act bad and the problem here that people generalize everything because they met someone who was bad.

For Example: Some people can't believe that I'm Palestinian when they talk to me because they got bad experience with some people who got nothing to do with me and I have nothing to do with them, but to have the same nationality.

Appreciate All of The Posts

with Regards

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 22:37
anonymous

This is the Impact of westernization dude;

The west sell this crap aint it... Lunatics are there everywhere in this earth....

By anonymous• 28 Mar 2007 22:35
anonymous

I thought u have walked naked out here lady ... Luk who is confused...

Remember watch out for a hundred lunatics in this world and i can count u in too.....

By Caesar• 28 Mar 2007 22:25
Caesar

“The lack of social liberties, repressed impulses and a poor communication of what Western values actually mean will inevitably result in some uncomfortable situations”

What exactly do Western Values mean? Does it mean dressing in a mini skirt going to a local club and getting leered over by a group of drunk chavs trying to chat you up- and then not taking “no” for an answer- which ineveitably results in some uncomfortable situations…??

Oh no- these things don’t occur in your country!!!

By azilana7037• 28 Mar 2007 22:20
Rating: 4/5
azilana7037

- lady got off from a taxi at City Center, walking towards the entrance when 3 teenagers in tobs (age betwen 14-16y/o) started saying...Filipina! Kabayan!(countrymate) Magkano?!! (meaning, how much) and runs away laughing...

- shopping at 2/f Lulu Hyper when some guy started following you around. Then approach you, ask your name, where you live, if you want to go shopping with him. lady tries to call the attention of the security guards and those guards will just look the other way.

- Try waiting for a taxi in the corner and a car will ask you wher you want to go and will offer you a lift. If you accpet, it's either he'll try to grab/touch you whenever he shifts his gears; asks for your number and if you refuse, he'll let you off his car so you choke with the smoke/exhaust fumes.

- Try walking down the street and a car will stop and reverses back to where you are. Driver will try to talk to you and if you don't pay him attention, speds of after he throws a piece of tissue/paper (his number written on it)at you.

How about this...enjoying your night with your friends in a club when someone grabs and squeeze your behind. Can't tell who did it because there's a lot of people walking around...

Or you're just with your friends talking near the bar when someone approach you and mumbles an amount of money. Hey, the lady was wearing a smart casual attire (slacks and long-sleeved blouse) but still she was mistaken for a prostitute...

Need I say more????

CHARMED is right...the women need not wear tight, provocative clothings to get harrassed. The mere fact that they are WOMEN is enough...

"RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT"

By JotaB• 28 Mar 2007 19:12
Rating: 4/5
JotaB

Harrassment is part and parcel of Middle Eastern life, regardless of your looks. The lack of social liberties, repressed impulses and a poor communication of what Western values actually mean will inevitably result in some uncomfortable situations. I'm not saying you should turn the other cheek every time, some individuals need have their behaviour made public as it is not acceptable even in Arabic cultures, but certainly don't react to every guy that hisses at you in passing or your life will become very dull indeed. Good luck!

By tamercd• 28 Mar 2007 18:47
tamercd

well they exist everywhere,but it realy kills me,because actually the gurls go home with the bad feeling,and the bastard just sleeps at night no even remembering that he did it,or what for,and like King Ed said,mostly its out of having nothing to do,or just lak of responsibility towards others.

well as a guy i should be on the other side,but,i totaly don't mind at all,slaying someone for doing such acts.

He Who Makes A bEAST oF hIMSeLF, gETS rID of ThE pAIN oF bEING a man

By Gypsy• 28 Mar 2007 18:30
Gypsy

You get hassaled somewhat on a daily basis, regardless of how you look or what you wear. There are some sad and desperate men in this country.

By King Edshel• 28 Mar 2007 18:23
Rating: 5/5
King Edshel

There are a lot of sick mind people out there and they don't care if you are good looking. Some do it for fun, some do it because they got nothing to do better than doing that, some do it because they don't care if someone was running after their women relatives.

If you stop one of them and ask him, if that girl was your sister or cousin what would you do? He will start it with Mind you language, none of your business and it might end up with a fight. Why you don't want that thing to your relatives and you do that to the other people's sisters and daughters? There is nothing funny about that or good, seeing those guys doing that makes you really feel bad. I wish if i can use my camera to video tape some of those incidents and show those guys the way they look chasing the other people. It is not a civilized scene at all.

There are a lot of ways and [I don't encourage that] to talk to someone, but it does not start with people or start a marathon in the middle of the shopping malls or streets.

I got more to talk, but i wish to hear from other people as well as my modest opinion would add nothing, but with the other people sharing the ideas and opinions with us.

with Regards

By tamercd• 28 Mar 2007 17:28
tamercd

well,ok,but does it go to a point that they grab u from ur arm,stop in front of u with their car,i dunno,u know guys get damn low when they start thinkin that what they're seeing is a happy meal:P

He Who Makes A bEAST oF hIMSeLF, gETS rID of ThE pAIN oF bEING a man

By charmed• 28 Mar 2007 17:13
Rating: 5/5
charmed

to be hassled out here! Or wear tight clothing you just need to be female! Its non stop and to be frank friggin annoying! yes you can call the cops they wont do much thou! Best bet is to get someone to beat them up or beat them up yourselves!!!

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