i got sexual attack

You can't teach experience...

ok MM thanks

Chupa, i think old threads automatically opens when one commented on it. And it's good so all new comers will also be informed.

"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches  you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."

These things can happen anywhere

why open 2006 thread?

I don't know how the legal system works in Qatar, but think that they are capable of taking and matching DNA evidence.

It may be a little too late for this case, but if this or something similar should happen again, it's best to get the police down straight away to collect DNA evidence wherever and whenever possible.

This also goes for women that may have been raped.  Go straight to the hospital and get checked out and also get them to collect DNA.

These people need to be locked up for the safety of the general public and any part that you can play to help this may prevent other attacks on the innocent people.

Please be careful and vigilant.

Sometimes not making an eye contact to guys on the mall helped alot. I know for some culture it is consider rude ... but i found it making my life alot easier when you just ignore those people completely. They can stare as much as they want ... as far as they not approach me ... fine by me...

I find reading this information on this site helps keep me informed. I am sad to hear all this craziness occurs here so much and so often. I have only lived in Doha for about 5 months and have had people follow me at the grocery stores, malls, and souqs. I wear abbaya at times to protect myself, but sometimes that does not make a difference. There needs to be some protection for women. Let's face it our husbands cant always be with us for every errand.

Oh I forgot about the time my husband and I were at Dasman Center and a guy(in full thobe,etc.) was at the internet cafe. He was taking pictures of his package. No, its not assault on us but equally disgusting.

ohhhhh my god i don't believe this.Qatar which is a muslim state!!!!.this is discusting.try to find out that fucking guy through help of police.don't let that asshole get away ........

I fully respect your decision to post the story. I am an ex Police Officer from the UK and I fully understand the amount of courage required to express a traumatic incident. If the police here are not able to assist then I still believe that you should put your incident in writing and send it to the attention of a senior police officer. Also send it to the relevant Embassy and a copy to the newspapers as well as Al Jazeera TV.

If you are able to, can you please provide a full description of the the animal, doha Zoo have a space for another. A full description is vital because if it happens again, then the descriptions can be linked to the same person or group of persons. Please also provide the exact time and place of this incident.

I have been in Doha since May and I have noticed how deprived some of the men appear. According to my police experience, I would agree with the earlier comments that such animals start off by taking smaller steps which eventually lead to rape and even murder.

If anyone else is faced with this horrific situation, then use what ever is necssary at your disposal. If these people act like wild animals, then they should be treated accordingly.

Sandy Hell.

Honey - Am truly sorry about your experience and thanks for sharing them. made me realise that in fact no where is 100% safe. I experienced similar situation while in Amsterdam. Over there in a few places, you know it happened quite a lot so up to a certain extent you manage it (e.g., dont go there alone, bring your own personal alarm etc.) because the problem is not going to go away. Despite best efforts, bad things still caught us by surprise.

Over here, the crime rate is low , so we tend to become complacent. So we just have to remind ourselves that it is not as safe as we thought it is.

Unfortunately there are people who will always think that the victim brought this onto herself:

Your version: You panic, couldn't drive off fast enough, and saw everything.

His version: You want to see everything, thats why you dont drive off when you have the chance.

Take care and be well.

R

dear ahmed what would u do when u are in the middle of packed parking lot with lots of cars next to u, panic and start the engine and drive crash something behind u or on your side or infront of u?

i didnt owe u an explanation anyway! what the hell on earth i possibly made up the story with lies?

lets not speculate about what she did and why..... .

people do funny things when taken by surprise or shocked.none of us were there to know the gravity of the situation she was facing.

fact of the matter remains...lots of wierd things go on in doha and women need to watch out for themselves.

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

if u had got into ur car as u said,

then why didn't u just start the engine and drove away???

y did u wait for him untill he cum??? :S

I think that ther is something wrong in ur story

Having raised a previous string much the same as this I am not shocked to hear of it, honey you have my utmost sympathy for having lived through such an ordeal.

I agree that this type of behaviour is prevalent throughout the world, however, in other countries something is done by the police about it.

Myself and my wife have complained to the police before, to be asked "Did you get the number plate?" when we said no we were told to stop bothering them and leave!

Women certainly get a raw deal out here but I certainly dont expect the government to do anything about it what so ever, my wife now carries some form of protection (not saying what as its probably illegal) and if someone attacked her he would certainly come off far worse (no im not condoning carrying weapons).

WOMEN PAY HEED, DO PROTECT YOURSELVES AND BE PREPARED TO USE IT!!!!!

These people have to learn that sexual harrasment, attack and ultimatly RAPE will NOT be tolerated

I can't believe my eyes reading these stories, yet i know all of them are true!

It is with real disgust and anger that we read or hear of such things! And yet, they claim that Qatar is a city of peace, love and happiness?

Give me a break! Everyday I hear of sexual harrasment, rape, drug use, etc.....

I guess it's about time the governement did something!

Oh I forgot about that tent souq that was set up next to the mall a couple of years ago. There was an arab guy that followed me around the whole time I was there and I didn't notice it at first but he kept grabbing me. It was really crowded so I thought it was just people being pushed up against each other. I soon realized that it was this one guy. So, I called my husband to come up there. When the guy saw my husband walking towards me outside of the tent, he ran away. I know my husband wanted to kill him. Well, there were police there and I still felt the need to call my husband instead. At the time, I didn't have the confidence to go to the police. Also, there have been times when we have gone to them and they did nothing.

So, while I agree with the other posters that going to the Souq by yourself at night should be avoided, its not the only time it happens. The incident that happened to me at the Center was early evening, the incident in Bahrain was during daylight(with my dad sitting there!!) and the tent thing was during the day. So, I guess we all have to be careful everywhere we go.

Qatar is not the only place in the world that this happens. Look at the things that happen in the States! However, I guess it's more surprising here because of the strong religious beliefs, etc. Also, most Muslim women here are covered, other women that do not cover up are subjected to the groping. So, from what I've seen, it's the expat community that deals with it for the most part.

What you have been through is terrible and it seems to be quite widespread. I quite understand why you do not want to involve the police but for the sake of other women you should report this.

If these disgusting people think they can get away with this, they will continue to do it. Would your husband go with you to the police? Can you remember what the pervert looked like? Can you describe the circumstances and the location clearly? If you can, I think the police will take you seriously.

This country is proud of its relative safety and I think the authorites will really try and protect women if they are aware of the situation. I am sure that this happens regularly but that many women are scared to report it. Therefore it is not seen as the big problem that it really is.

i didnt say that the police are bad apples or black sheep, i just say i dont have any confidence to report it to them, as i heard so many stories about expat and police. I think its fair enough if i feel that way.

I'm not kind of person who makes thing such a big a deal, i put it in this forum cause i want people be more aware, and hey im not telling lies.

anyway thanks for your support for me to report it, i appreciate that :}

This article was in the UAE GulfNews this Tuesday. If you can't count on your embassy to protect you, who can you count on?

Mission 'neglected plight of maids who were raped'

By Barbara Bibbo', Correspondent Published: 11/12/2006, GulfNews

Doha: The Philippine Embassy in Qatar has refused to comment on attacks from Manila-based women's groups who have accused the mission of neglecting two rape victims, a foreign newspaper has reported.

The groups also warned the embassy they would look into the victims' allegation that the mission dissuaded them from denouncing their sponsors in Qatar.

"They [Philippine diplomats] want to avoid any publicity on this issue," an embassy employee said when asked repeatedly by Gulf News to comment on the report.

"The Philippine's militant groups demanded on Wednesday the recall and investigation of the Philippine ambassador, the labour attaché and other diplomats in Qatar who allegedly neglected a domestic helper who was raped on November 3," the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported.

The newspaper said Migrante International, a Filipino watchdog for migrants' rights, and the Gabriela Women's party-list group (a women's organisation in Manila) presented to the media in Manila the cases of two Filipina maids, who were raped by their sponsors and recruiters in Qatar.

One of the victims, aged 37, was reported as saying she sought help from the Philippine embassy in Doha after being raped by her sponsor on November 3. Embassy staff were having a party and she had to wait several hours before the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration (OWWA) personnel attended to her.

She said she had repeatedly asked the embassy for help in leaving her abusive employer but was ignored. Another Filipina maid was reported as saying she was repeatedly raped by the owner of her recruitment agency in Qatar and was also sexually harassed by her sponsor.

"We denounce Filipino officials in Qatar for compounding, heightening and worsening the atrocities they [the two victims] suffered at the hands of their rapist employers and recruiters," Migrante secretary-general Maita Santiago was reported as saying.

If you want to express your disgust with the Philippines Embassy, they can be contacted via the following:

Philippines Embassy

Tel:4831585 or 4836871

email: [email protected]

Honey - that's a terrible thing to experience. Glad to know you're ok.

I know two ladies who had the same experience outside their apartments (same location). One was followed all the way to the elevator before the guy pulled his pants down. The second case was similar but happened in the private parking area. The woman in question was shaken and took some time to recover, but later tried to locate/pursue the guy on her 4WD and calling the cops. Apparently she lost him. In both cases, the police were involved, complaints were filed but no further action was taken.

AHMAD44 - Just a little correction. A "money-shot" means something else. :-) Don't want to elaborate on it here for someone might accuse me of being an insensitive pr1ck.

Damn, I would have kicked his balls in right there if I was with you.

Anyway dont go out to the souqs esp at night on fridays/saturdays.

Stay safe.

no kidding, we need to go to Ahmad44 class and learn some martial art kicking. Next time happen to us we can just approach the pervert and kick his bollock off.

Seriously ... thats what my husband told me to do if something like that happen. Kick it so hard so he can't move, and then you can get your phone camera out and take his photo.

You should write in to the papers - with less details of course, but write in none the less. More women need to know this sort of thing goes on. I had no idea.

no comment, i'm just shocked, all i can say is alla yistor ala banet el 3alam, i don't know how to put this in english, sorry.

Something similar happened to me at the Center. I was getting my son out of the car and noticed an old white nissan or something just sitting there. I was wondering what he was doing but didn't think much of it. Then, when I finally got my son and started walking towards the grocery store, the guy opened his door and was masturbating. I starting yelling at him and he drove off. I was only able to get half of his plate number. Anyway, it's not the first time. When I was 13 and just moved to Bahrain I was sitting at Mcdonalds with my dad and friends and a guy just stood up(outside) against the window and it was hanging out. Lovely.

I have no clue what is wrong with these people. Sick sick sick.

Only Love & Respect of Others Makes us Human.

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I am really sorry for this sexual assault. It’s unacceptable and I encourage you to report it to the police.

Anyone who sees a crime and does not report it - is part of the crime. If a victim does not report it, then it’s nothing but a made up story to defame a place where we are living with our kids and families.

I do not agree with your comments on the police. Bad apples or call them black sheep - are everywhere.

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I am sorry if I have hurt anyone’s feelings, but if such event is not reported by the victim - its our duty to report it to www.moi.gov.qa / [email protected]

hey honey.........its natural to get confused.

u dont need to apologise.there is nothing wrong with posting details either this is a free forum.

i would still suggest you file a report.

there shud be more police patrolling in that area.

if u know someone who can speak arabic take them along to help you deal with the police..they are not so bad.

LET the police know even if they cant file a proper report....some one will pay attention and pay heed.

i am concerend that the pervert is still in that area and he will do it again.he cud do this around kids.

malls are safe but such public places u need to have someone with you....esp if its a dark place.one more female companion can make a difference..it neednt be just your spouse.

also u need to watch your back.incidents can take place anyplace.

take care of yourself.

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

first im so sorry to put this incident at this forum, and i put too much details too, i just very new in this forum and dont know the slank language for all those opens word i wrote.

I did tell this to my husband and he wish me took his picture at least to report this guy to police. It just happen very quick and i couldnt think much, so i was just scream and close my eyes, i did tell people around me but no one seems to be care.

I somehow dont have any confidence too with the police here, i just experiencing so many stories from my friends about them.

Anyway thanks guys for your support, and i hope the ladies be more careful here.

david did u direct some frustration/anger at me...cos i didnt get why.

did i mention anything about quran or western?

i am confused by your words.

i have clearly asked her to report the incident...........such things bring the entire place in a bad light.im for women's right eastern or western.

care to clarify your post david?

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

Take a year if you need looing through photos, but dont give up till you find him and he is jailed.

Point taken, No problem.

But Is a issue that dwells in every woman and man minds.

It needs to stop. It starts with the victim in submitting the report.

Richard, it cost me 15,000 dollars in legal fees, to put away in the United States one guy, who assaulted my daughter, The guy, got 20 years in jail without parole and 175 stitches that my daughter gave him with a knife in her own home in self defense. Yet, she was treated like she was the perpetrator.

Just because the kid was someone sons in the state government ,his family thought that I was going to budge on the issue and accept their money for reparation. I rather saw the son of a gun, get the gentlemen's treatment in an American jail.

I could joke in Qatar living and make stupid jokes, but in this matter my heart and mind is real. I'm about a woman right and not abuse.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Gal. 4:16

David is right, I urge you to report this horrible incident to police. I have observed that the police officers generally speak and understand english.

Thanks for writing about the incident. Your actions will save somebody else from a greater harm.

You are right in being angry. It was a disgusting act and the guy is clearly a loser who has no idea about women. But lets not get carried away with "What bad impression on a westerner?"

This behavior has nothing to do with whether someone is a westerner or not.

A similar thing happened to my wife in France last summer. My wife is a western French woman and the pervert was a white western man. Can't say if he was French or not as she didn't hang around to find out.

Point I'm making is that this sort of deviancy can and does happen anywhere.

I'm a true believer, that the affected lady; should report it to the police.

She has a good and fresh view of the perpetrator in her mind.

File a report for the records.

Don't let this perverts run around in the Souks unclaimed.

It starts with every one of you.

You speak Arabic, go and assist her in moment of despair in front of the authorities as a linguist.

Some kind of coalition has to happen.

I'm so angry that I'm getting frustrated.

Don't give me the bull, she is a westerner.

What do you think would happen, if she was a muslim woman?

Don't give me the koran readings on this one.

Is an issue that needs to be address to the authorities.

Put your words into action, regardless of your believes.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Gal. 4:16

i hope they catch the guy and cut his bits off. Serious thou this is an indicator of a rapist if he gets away with one thing he will try again another and this time it could be worse. yes you can report these incidents to the police but they cant do anything unless they have a number plate. I mean theres no security out here, no camereas ( cct?) watching the streets or the hot spots, sadly the big brother watching doesnt exist out here. personaly i say always carry a weapon i do i carry my friend everywhere i go due to the non stop harresment out here,i takeit in my car in my bag and i would use it for sure if some man tried to get in my car. Honey get something to protect yourself make sure you happy with it and you feel secure with it. Im so sorry for you honey i cant begin to feel how bad you must be feeling, im sending you all my wishes.

what can we do dvargas?

women have to be careful.

its a bad impression on this place.

a few more of such kind of incidences n no one will want to go to the souqs.

honey did u report it to the police yet bcos the person is definitely a loser of that place n he knows his way........hes prob done this before.

did u get his profile?

he got away this time n hes definitely going to do it again.

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

She is new to the forum. I'm seriously angry at this behavior. What bad impression on a westerner? Guys this a serious indicator of a rapist. Something has to be done for justice.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Gal. 4:16

Too much detail! You could have described this story without elaborating on the money-shot towards the end! I am sorry this happened this is a first on this type of story i hear!

i have been repeatedly telling all to watch urself and be careful ever since the last thread of discussion on harrassment.

never be by yourself in isolated places.

have someone accompany u to the car or keep it parked in a crowded place.women shud be in a number or atleast have ur spouse with you.

i also mentioned that if u have kids with you u are an easier target.....its attracts nuisance bcos they feel u are helpless.......and frankly how good a jidgement can u make when u have kids with you....its slows u down bcos u are first concerned about the kids. if anyplace other than the malls...be with a company.

oh i feel real bad for yourself.you shud have kicked him where it hurts the most.sick b******.god i am so angry now.

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

Did you try to report this incident to the police, embassy or husband?

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Gal. 4:16

That's blo*dy disgusting. Sorry to hear your experience, but thankful you were not harmed physically. It's good you posted your story as we need to be more aware ... I am starting to change my thinking of Qatar as I don't think it is as "safe" as we all make it out to be. Crime and assaults do happen and fortunately now it's started to be printed in the papers.

Last December I too was sexually assaulted, and I was pregnant (8 1/2 months) at the time. Fortunately not too bad an assault but enough to make me feel disgusted. It happened in the car park of Souk Ahmed at dusk and I had my kids with me!! Just finished strapping my youngest in his car seat.

Ladies please be aware of your surroundings, especially if you do not have a male companion/husband with you.