Knights Templar hid the Shroud of Turin
Thank Goodness , the mystery is solved. i can now rest easier..
Medieval knights hid and secretly venerated The Holy Shroud of Turin for more than 100 years after the Crusades, the Vatican said yesterday in an announcement that appeared to solve the mystery of the relic’s missing years.
The Knights Templar, an order which was suppressed and disbanded for alleged heresy, took care of the linen cloth, which bears the image of a man with a beard, long hair and the wounds of crucifixion, according to Vatican researchers.
The Shroud, which is kept in the royal chapel of Turin Cathedral, has long been revered as the shroud in which Jesus was buried, although the image only appeared clearly in 1898 when a photographer developed a negative.
Barbara Frale, a researcher in the Vatican Secret Archives, said the Shroud had disappeared in the sack of Constantinople in 1204 during the Fourth Crusade, and did not surface again until the middle of the fourteenth century. Writing in L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, Dr Frale said its fate in those years had always puzzled historians.
However her study of the trial of the Knights Templar had brought to light a document in which Arnaut Sabbatier, a young Frenchman who entered the order in 1287, testified that as part of his initiation he was taken to “a secret place to which only the brothers of the Temple had access”. There he was shown “a long linen cloth on which was impressed the figure of a man” and instructed to venerate the image by kissing its feet three times.
Dr Frale said that among other alleged offences such as sodomy, the Knights Templar had been accused of worshipping idols, in particular a “bearded figure”. In reality however the object they had secretly venerated was the Shroud.
They had rescued it to ensure that it did not fall into the hands of heretical groups such as the Cathars, who claimed that Christ did not have a true human body, only the appearance of a man, and could therefore not have died on the Cross and been resurrected. She said her discovery vindicated a theory first put forward by the British historian Ian Wilson in 1978.
The Times
Pity. It deserves to be true as a monument to religious credulity. I actually laughed when I read it.
I think it was an urban medieval myth (I sure as sh#t hope so!) But the relics of the old churches in Europe are truly facinating.
Mandi
Mandilulur ... please tell me that is really true, about the skull.
Rj sniper, Dan Brown may be a successful author but he's a SHOCKINGLY bad historian (or maybe he doesn't care if it doesn't suit his story.)
Mandi
Bah, anybody can have a splinter of the "true cross" (thanks to St. Helena.) My favorite relic is the skull of the Baby Jesus.
Mandi
Since the "shroud" was only woven around 1350, its whereabouts in the century prior to that is hardly a mystery. It didn't exist.
http://skepdic.com/shroud.html
Even if the account of the French knight's encounter with a bit of cloth is true, it provides no evidence whatsoever that it is the same bit of cloth that turned up in Turin (in fact, it couldn't be, because of the carbon date). But then, evidence is not something that bothers the Church too much when it is attesting "miracles".
Now if anyone wants splinters of the True Cross I can let you have them at a very reasonable price.
I'm also used to the title of the series "The Saint" starring Roger Moore.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Simon Templar was "The Saint"
Drove a Volvo P1800 - Great Car..
I also remember that TV series "Simon Templar".
Sorry for the late reply. i was out trying sisha in old souq (those things can be addictive!, love it!). anyway, the first chapters can be boring but trust me its worth reading till the very end. just a friendly warning that it will test your faith (if youre a christian) as it is some sort of a documentary. i have a feeling that it is the book where Dan Brown gets inpiration for his third book "The Solomon Key".
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"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Why did he kiss his feet?...instead of the Bum & the lips?
Thats how Knights Templar used to do it......even the Panzer Cardinal our current pope ratified the then pope's judgement on it---that it was "not blasphemous to kiss the back & lips of a fellow Knight....or spiting on the Cross" .
I wouldnt be surpirsed if the Shroud of Turin turn out to be one of a Satanist's Shroud.....
"Dr Frale said that among other alleged offences such as sodomy".....sodomy & black magic/satanism go hand in hand!!!
It's relatively accurate & quite a good read.
Author is Raymond Khoury.
I think he has some local history??
I always thought it was "the Knights that said...Ni"
I cannot get past the first few chapters of Hiram Key- is it worth persevering Sniper?
Being a distant descendantof the "Knights that said Nicht" and loosely related to the Knights Templar, I would recommend "The Compasses and the Cross" - a grea book about the history of the order..
alexa, any good book you can recommend me with the similiar story??? i love the old christian history.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
brit you may want to read the book from julia navarro, the brotherhood of the holly shroud. is a good book.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
Yeah me too. =)
good thing not all of them perished during the vatican purges and preserved the secrets up this date. One of them is the Shroud.
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I always knew that they were the good guys..
I've read about this Shroud of Turin on a book "The HIRAM key".. very intruiging indeed.
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