Not just the poor background, its the age too. 18 or 19 years is too tender in terms of life experience. And at that age you want to please everyone, so you end up doing stupid things.
By the time you are 30, life has knocked some sense into you.
Pakistan do some brilliant players. Wasim, Imran they were such a treat to watch. Aamir was doing good ...till now.
Maybe some kind of counselling might help....all these young minds, generally coming from less priveleged background, sudden exposure to fame and fortune....some can't handle it very well.
Cricket will be the loser if Pakistan is banned from cricket. No other country provides as much excitement as them. Brilliant and ridiculous in the space of a few overs. Shoaib Akhtar was a star earlier today with the ball and then fielded worse than a schoolboy, you only get that from the Pakistanis.
All the years I wasted watching cricket, getting my bp and heartbeat up, screaming, yelling and supporting my favourite stars,......all to nought. Don't depress me anymore.
Had sufficient evidence to charge players - Lorgat
September 3, 2010
Haroon Lorgat, the ICC's chief executive, spoke to Cricinfo on the process that led to the suspension of the three Pakistan players linked to the spot-fixing allegations during the Lord's Test.
Haroon Lorgat: "I would not like to pre-determine their guilt nor pre-determine what sanctions are appropriate. We would not tolerate any kind of corruption in this sport."
Is this the biggest scandal cricket has faced since the Hansie Cronje revelations?
In terms of corruption, yes. Corruption is a dangerous thing, any form of it.
Butts butt is now really on fire because GBP 50000 recovered from Butts room were the same marked notes that were given to fixer by News of the world newspaper.
Looks like fixer has some connection with their embassy in London.
still not proved yet?????plz dont refer me the video and all....in this modern world, i can make 100000000000000 videos. let finish the inquiry, then decide.....
Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir, the three Pakistan players who are at the centre of the spot-fixing controversy have been dropped for the limited-overs leg of the England tour, according to team manager Yawar Saeed. He said they had not, however, been suspended.
He gave statement that 50,000 pound (66 laks PRs) found in his room were for shopping for his sister.
Another angle as per former coach Geoff Lawson "It would not surprise me if illegal bookmakers have told players that if they do not perform X and Y, their families will be kidnapped or harmed.
Killing of earlier coach Bob Woolmer is still a mystery. It was thought that he discovered too much about the fixing.
We hope the famous Scotland Yard investigations are brought to light soon as poor donkeys are being tortured in pakistan streets & PCB chairman Butt's Butt is in line of fire or in line of kicks and kick-backs.
There is a history of cheating in the Pakistan Cricket team going back years.
But as pakman says, in this case, the three incidents are the proof!!!
But you are right, lets hope this time around maximum punishment is given, where it is deserved, to protect the future of the game, especially in Pakistan!!
allegations are not proved???? MAIN suspect already on bail without any allegations....plz dont comments till the end of this FILMY DRAMA....I TAKE STAND FOR MY TEAM AND MY COUNTRY....
(if in case they are guilty so they deserve maximum punishments)
It is just a bad reflection of the individuals concerned. Probably more like greed.
I wonder if these cheats are donating their ill gotten gains to the flood victims? Or do they just expect the good people of other countries, including Qatar, to donate?
I also have sympathy, but with the innocent players who are tarred with the same brush!!!
jokes are starting already ........... if a hot football team (Manchester City) get beat by the under dog (Sunderland) questions are asked if there are any Pakistani players in the Man. City team!!!!! LOL
They are called 'spot bets' where as you can bet on a particular ball being a 'no ball' and other such minor happenings. Can do same in football, like betting on the precise minute a team will score etc. Can make a lot of money if you knew in advance!!!!
Anyway, these Pakistani players are cheats, not cricketers!!! We've been here before.
though it was the responsibility of the manager to see the where abouts of the players, who is coming into their rooms, who is meeting them, looks like team management is also involved excluding the coach and the assistant coach, because i can bet that they won't take any kind of bribe
Lets see what happens. these players would be out of the one day internationals and will be banned for a series or two and then back playing cricket
credibility of these players are finished now, what happened to shoaib malik he got banned and eventually after paying the fine he was back playing cricket...
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Hope it teaches a good LESSON to other aspiring cricketers who wants to foray into the world of CRICKET..
Not just the poor background, its the age too. 18 or 19 years is too tender in terms of life experience. And at that age you want to please everyone, so you end up doing stupid things.
By the time you are 30, life has knocked some sense into you.
Ice, exactly...May be their poor background plays a havoc in their career and life...
Ice maiden, you have just melted my heart!!
May you find the right combination for lock!!
Pakistan do some brilliant players. Wasim, Imran they were such a treat to watch. Aamir was doing good ...till now.
Maybe some kind of counselling might help....all these young minds, generally coming from less priveleged background, sudden exposure to fame and fortune....some can't handle it very well.
Who knows what happens there too.....when money comes in, people change.
Ice, same here...Better to switch our liking from CRICKET to FOOTBALL..:))
but when they do play as bad as 'school boys', who's to know if they were paid to do so?
That's what will spoil the game, if Pakistan continue to play cricket!!!
Cricket will be the loser if Pakistan is banned from cricket. No other country provides as much excitement as them. Brilliant and ridiculous in the space of a few overs. Shoaib Akhtar was a star earlier today with the ball and then fielded worse than a schoolboy, you only get that from the Pakistanis.
Just Pakistan.
Why should the rest of the cricket loving World suffer?
Please don't discuss this anymore.
All the years I wasted watching cricket, getting my bp and heartbeat up, screaming, yelling and supporting my favourite stars,......all to nought. Don't depress me anymore.
Just ban the whole damn game.
Had sufficient evidence to charge players - Lorgat
September 3, 2010
Haroon Lorgat, the ICC's chief executive, spoke to Cricinfo on the process that led to the suspension of the three Pakistan players linked to the spot-fixing allegations during the Lord's Test.
Haroon Lorgat: "I would not like to pre-determine their guilt nor pre-determine what sanctions are appropriate. We would not tolerate any kind of corruption in this sport."
Is this the biggest scandal cricket has faced since the Hansie Cronje revelations?
In terms of corruption, yes. Corruption is a dangerous thing, any form of it.
bang goes the angle of the money being planted, as was the first stance because the police did not have a search warrant!Cheating gits!
i dont think this excuse would go far enough..
Agent for some sponsorship apparently..
agent for some other contract??
wk, i dont understand...:) is taking money from the bookie ok for them?
They had the bookie as the agent :(
yes rishi they admit that they took money and deny wrongdoing.. Ah well.
it seems that the three have admitted that they had taken money from the bookies..just heard in NDTV.
Read here
Pak envoy blames Pawar for trio's suspension
http://cricketnext.in.com/news/pak-envoy-blames-pawar-for-trios-suspension/50285-13.html
will expose all guilty and will punish strictly.
The charges are corruption and spot fixing; guilty should get life time ban.
Butts butt is now really on fire because GBP 50000 recovered from Butts room were the same marked notes that were given to fixer by News of the world newspaper.
Looks like fixer has some connection with their embassy in London.
still not proved yet?????plz dont refer me the video and all....in this modern world, i can make 100000000000000 videos. let finish the inquiry, then decide.....
Is a dope head, he should be erased!
They are ashamed of what they have done and are crying inconsolably as per the news reported in newspaper..
Butt, Asif and Amir dropped for rest of tour
Cricinfo staff,
September 2, 2010
Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir, the three Pakistan players who are at the centre of the spot-fixing controversy have been dropped for the limited-overs leg of the England tour, according to team manager Yawar Saeed. He said they had not, however, been suspended.
rEzyz, we are concerned about this GENTELMAN's game..its really heartening to listen such news..
haven't you seen the local news channels which are airing the angers of pakistani people who are demanding life ban on the culprits???
check here...
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/130029/ibn-exclusive-imran-for-exemplary-punishment.html
Seems that news agencies and public web_blogs would give judgments prior to Scotland yard :)
cool down guyz, story hasn't come to an end...
alphaQ seems you are much concerned about the pakistani players... :)
just read this and then decide....i am still stand for my PAK TEAM...
http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/475246.html
He gave statement that 50,000 pound (66 laks PRs) found in his room were for shopping for his sister.
Another angle as per former coach Geoff Lawson "It would not surprise me if illegal bookmakers have told players that if they do not perform X and Y, their families will be kidnapped or harmed.
Killing of earlier coach Bob Woolmer is still a mystery. It was thought that he discovered too much about the fixing.
We hope the famous Scotland Yard investigations are brought to light soon as poor donkeys are being tortured in pakistan streets & PCB chairman Butt's Butt is in line of fire or in line of kicks and kick-backs.
colt, i was knowing that someone will surely point me out for his UNIQUE surname that i chose to put it differently...lol
Facts are facts ............ they are historically cheats!!!
Butt... Salman Butt! :-P
And the latest news is that PCB or rather say ICC will soon impose a LIFE BAN on asif including his other accomplices and a 1yr ban on SALMAN BHATT...
if pakistan used to loose a match then the house of players were stoned. But now public blames pitches or umpires or climate.
I think it is high time that people listen to guys like him..
Bunnyhug
either u r ignorant or just don't want to know about cricket fixing history.
Get a life
I hope PCB will take a good step against them.....at least people will get peace aligned with there national heroes...
There is a history of cheating in the Pakistan Cricket team going back years.
But as pakman says, in this case, the three incidents are the proof!!!
But you are right, lets hope this time around maximum punishment is given, where it is deserved, to protect the future of the game, especially in Pakistan!!
Not proved yet but the fixer named three incidents exactly. So either he is the luckiest man I'm the world or someone cheated.
Let's face it pakistan is not known for it's honesty
allegations are not proved???? MAIN suspect already on bail without any allegations....plz dont comments till the end of this FILMY DRAMA....I TAKE STAND FOR MY TEAM AND MY COUNTRY....
(if in case they are guilty so they deserve maximum punishments)
Too many good famous people, not fair on them.
It is just a bad reflection of the individuals concerned. Probably more like greed.
I wonder if these cheats are donating their ill gotten gains to the flood victims? Or do they just expect the good people of other countries, including Qatar, to donate?
saadm
believe me i never cash my fame status in wrong way
and i'll never do it ;O)
this what happens when a person gets fame, he or she misuses it.... :(
seems asif is a 'smart' guy...was cought with drugs, has pretty girlfriends and now found making extra money..
asif, looks like a drug addict, first it was shoaib akhter and now mr. asif.....
Shame on Pakistan. God will send the cheats to hell
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned !
I also have sympathy, but with the innocent players who are tarred with the same brush!!!
jokes are starting already ........... if a hot football team (Manchester City) get beat by the under dog (Sunderland) questions are asked if there are any Pakistani players in the Man. City team!!!!! LOL
Bunnyhug
thnx
but i've sympathy with rising fast bowler Aamir, rest are of no worth, they must be banned if feel guilty.
They are called 'spot bets' where as you can bet on a particular ball being a 'no ball' and other such minor happenings. Can do same in football, like betting on the precise minute a team will score etc. Can make a lot of money if you knew in advance!!!!
Anyway, these Pakistani players are cheats, not cricketers!!! We've been here before.
its really difficult to understand woman.
No buddy knows when she can strike back ;O)
dot.com, it doesn't matter at all if they were in love before...Asif is at fault and she(veena)is just spitting out his misdeeds...
well soniya
that comes under their personal matters, long ago they were in love each other, and then they apart on their ways.
The players take us cricket fans for fools, do they? Very upset....why do i even watch this game? Ugh ! !
saad, i am talking about the latest one where she has put her ex-flame, ASIF under scrutiny...
brit, i don't know how genuine her comments are...And i really dislike this kind of co-operation among two nations...:))
it seems some of these players are just actors and the script is writtem outside the ground...
soniya, veena malik comments are you talking about latest or the old ones...
It's good to know that India and Pakistan are cooperating on something at least..
Has anyone heard the comments and declarations made by VEENA MALLIK?? Is there any truth in her statement???
Cockney
u r right, but u must be thankful to them, else a victory of 3-1 was probably a hard target for english side.
don't know, how a fixer will bet for "NO BALLS", that has no role in test matches, even if a team bowled more then 30 "No Balls"
brit
don't mixup PM with Mr. 10% Ya'ni Zardari ;O)
Not the first time in Pakistani cricket - and probably not the last time too.
I agree soniya!!
What's going on with PCB?? It seems their fall is near...
I think Asif will end up with maximum number of lifetime bans before he finally voluntarily retires :o)
Such a shame, could have been the finest bowler in the world and always getting into trouble.
life time ban for cricket....all those who found guilty.
britexpat you are right.... mr. 10% should be hanged upside down...
Apparently, the Pakistan Prime Minister has asked for a full enquiry into this incident. He is appalled that he didn't get his 10% cut....
though it was the responsibility of the manager to see the where abouts of the players, who is coming into their rooms, who is meeting them, looks like team management is also involved excluding the coach and the assistant coach, because i can bet that they won't take any kind of bribe
Make an example of them !
Sack the management team also..
Lets see what happens. these players would be out of the one day internationals and will be banned for a series or two and then back playing cricket
credibility of these players are finished now, what happened to shoaib malik he got banned and eventually after paying the fine he was back playing cricket...
thanx for sharing but who bothers :|