Folks, turn BBC on you will see why he got the 'peace prize' hes using the dim witted gay societies need for recognition and guess which of their requests he has conviniently decided to adopt and nurture????
THEIR RIGHT TO REVERSE CLINTONS "DONT ASK DONT TELL" POLICY DENYING THEM OPEN GAY RIGHTS IN THE MILITARY
In laymans terms, he wants to recruit new Americans to fight the new wars
Please someone knit him a peacefull sweater to match the Nobel peace prize.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
MMYKE , by all means give him the "little black boy from Hawaii" award but reserve the Nobel peace award for those interested in PEACE.
The award should have been postponed this year, if the committe had done that it would have sent out a much needed message that very little has been done for peace lately. Had they done that, the Nobel Committe would have not underminded their credibility.
Propaganda at it's finest!
How ironic that Obama is beating the drums of war as we speak and herding more of our boys for more of this 'peace'
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
...if they've given it to him,probably the Nobel Prize Awarding committee found him worthy of it...for their own reasons.Or maybe he genuinely is.What difference does it make what we think about it? :-S
Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor
Truthfulvisitor said "Once Iran has its nuclear armoury in place, which could be in the next few years, I'm sure both sides will sit down over cups of coffee and 'engage' each other with 'meaningful' dialogues about the "shared aspirations" for regional and world peace"
This is the exact point of my signature,not to promote war, but to deter it using the only check mate solution because the way things are headed and the econimic climate in the States the oil rich countries will continue being invaded and people killed.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Obama has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. I am stunned, because the Peace Prize has been awarded to a man who has been in office for less than a year. And done nothing of note.
According to the Nobel committee, it was “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”.
According to me "He might be a awarded for his action in future as per his promises in past"
By awarding such a respected prize to someone who has done so little, seems to dilute its value. I’d love to see Obama earn this award. I would love to see the US take a leading position in the world on moral issues.
I love it. But I don’t love awards being handed out as if it were a popularity contest.
The Nobel Committee have put a real nail in their own coffin with this one, and Obama should have the intelligence to decline the award - now that would truly be remarkable and serve him very well. After this, there will be little prestige associated with getting such an award in the future.
The nomination for this prize was made 10 days after he took office, so it is based on his 10 days of presidency. This decision was made by a leftish Norwegian panel who want to say that 'thank God Bush has left office' and they wish to assert that Obama is their best hope in being weak and indecisive in steering Western interests.
Even until the present day, nothing has really changed in American policy, and there may be another 40,000 troops going into Afghanistan very soon.
What this really comes from is his appeasement of radical Islam and her many extremists. Bowing apologetically at the feet of the apparently oppressed and dispossessed really fires up the hearts and minds of liberals everywhere and I suspect it is from this basis that the misconstrued 'hallucination' of peace has come.
(What a mistake to make. Once Iran has its nuclear armoury in place, which could be in the next few years, I'm sure both sides will sit down over cups of coffee and 'engage' each other with 'meaningful' dialogues about the "shared aspirations" for regional and world peace. )
He really should decline it. That's even better than being awarded the prize and accepting it.
and the Nobel Academy will have to clean his hands from afghan innocent's blood ...quiet rural families desssiminated with supra-intelligent-bombs at several opportunities since his election.
We like the US and have nothing against Americans. Absolutely nothing.
Unfortunately, there are many bad politicians in the US government. US's policy in middle east has not been very friendly nor respectful. As a result, we condemn the US government.
Unfortunately, not many Americans see this. Propaganda has affected them, not all but a significant portion, to believe that we hate them! we start hearing things like "why do they hate us"!! We don't!
We have made mistakes, but usually learn from them. It is too easy to blame us for all the world's problems. I do agree that we have fingers in too many pies.
I will say that mmyke didn't say that the people who are in these countries are useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant. She said the dictators/rulers are. Now while those are not terms I would totally agree with using, I will admit that some of them do fit some of the people who run some countries, or at least they APPEAR to be, by their actions and reactions.
Still say that if only the rulers of countries would only fight each other when they have a disagreement, that that the world could most likely get along on its own! Or maybe we could just put them in the corner until they agree to disagree, shake hands and get along.
Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift.
SDK...do you NOT see the irony of what you just said? That people can't say anything about YOUR(or others) country and its people who have never stepped into the country and doesn't know much about it at all.
ALL you have to do is look at, I'd say, 95% of the posts on QL and see how many times America(and Americans) are slammed for everything under the sun! I would be willing to bet that the majority of those who do the slamming haven't seen, stepped foot, or even spoken to an American. My goodness we even get blamed for creating wars that started WAY before we were even a country!
Let's not go for a double standard on comments concerning countries..what's ok for one should be ok for another.
Now on the Noble prize...not sure I would go as far as giving it to Obama since he's not been in office long enough to say what he's doing is going to work or not, BUT, he IS trying. And as Samix said that this is to stop Americans from thinking...sorry Samix, but I burst out laughing at that comment. I find you funny, altho complete wrong! You obviously don't know us very well!!
Give Obama time..he's having to deal with what Bush put into action before he left office. That will take a MINIMUM of 2 years to see any type of results. I swear some people think that the changes should have been overnight or even BEFORE he was sworn in!!!
Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift.
Obama is trying to bring change and DOES deserve a chance. However, this discussion is about the Nobel prize. I personaly don't think he deserves it so early in his Presidency.
However, the choice is with the committee and they voted for him..
what did he do before becoming President? Did anyone know much about him? The date for closing of nomination was feb 1st. That means he was president for just one month and the committee evaluated him for his 100 days performance? I suppose like everything else, Nobel prize is also becoming a joke.
Yes they have Alexa but I didn't like the fact that the leader I had elected to lead my country is called names by someone who has never stepped into my country and doesn't know much about it at all.
India is still a 3rd world country and falls under the generalisation made.
But still everyone has a right to voice their opinion so he can go on about it.
he has approached most of the useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant dictators/rulers.
If you call all the rulers of 3rd world countries that then doesn't speak much for us, does it.
I remember you calling all Afghans similar things for killing few canadians in the war there. It was ok for you to kill thousands of Afghans by canadians but 1 canadian died and you labelled all of them barbaric.
Actually I take offence to mmyke calling all people from developing countries uneducated, useless and what not in a number of threads. I personally feel this line of thinking is even worse than the US bashing. Worst case of generalisation I have ever seen..
if any of those tin-pot third world nobodies had 1/4 the power of the US we would be in terrible trouble,,,,much, much more than having the USA at the forefront..
* what crap, I never thought that the whole wide world is so rigged!
* They are just trying their best to make obama appear as a hero for the american people so that they stop thinking and unquestionable start accepting his policies
* Nobel PEACE PRIZE for a president of a country that is engaged in illegal wars with half of the worlds population ?
* This is outrageous, I am now starting to believe in what people say about the New World Order and its tentacles.
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."
I see your point, but after 8 years of Bush, it is nice to see planning, intellectualism, and structure in what he is doing,,,,the other leaders di give a hoot, its plain and simple geoploitics...and I do think extremem force is going to be used,,I can't see any other remedy with our friends just north of us,,,
but you also have to agree that the American ship of state is a terribly big one to turn around, and for a little black boy from Hawaii to do as much as he has already done is quite remarkable,,,,so, he has now been given this gift to help him, and us, proceed along a more intelligent path.
Now all these other folks out there causing havoc will have to confront not just an American President, but also a Noble Lauriate,,,let that Iranian President handle that one now...
Lets see what Obama's next 8 months will accomplish..
he has approached most of the useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant dictators/rulers and has opened his hand,,,For instance his ovatures to Iran, North Korea, and the speach in Egypt,,,he certainly did not need to do those things,,,,
It could be argued that North Korea has won the day.. Under the agreement, Six-Partis were to participate in trying to end North Korea's nuclear program through a negotiatiins - China, the United States, North and South Korea, Japan, and Russia.
As far as the Middle East is concerned, nothing much has been achieved. In fact, Netanyahu has stuck his fingers at the US by increasing the building of settlements..
sim sim the trio of Yasser Arafat, Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. They got the Nobel peace Prize for transforming themselves from "hardcore terrorists" to "mild terrorists"
Apparently for NOT being George Bush!! ..... and his sterling efforts on International diplomacy in his first 6 months in power - that clearly doesnt include his focus on Afghanistan!!
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Folks, turn BBC on you will see why he got the 'peace prize' hes using the dim witted gay societies need for recognition and guess which of their requests he has conviniently decided to adopt and nurture????
THEIR RIGHT TO REVERSE CLINTONS "DONT ASK DONT TELL" POLICY DENYING THEM OPEN GAY RIGHTS IN THE MILITARY
In laymans terms, he wants to recruit new Americans to fight the new wars
Please someone knit him a peacefull sweater to match the Nobel peace prize.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
MMYKE , by all means give him the "little black boy from Hawaii" award but reserve the Nobel peace award for those interested in PEACE.
The award should have been postponed this year, if the committe had done that it would have sent out a much needed message that very little has been done for peace lately. Had they done that, the Nobel Committe would have not underminded their credibility.
Propaganda at it's finest!
How ironic that Obama is beating the drums of war as we speak and herding more of our boys for more of this 'peace'
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
...if they've given it to him,probably the Nobel Prize Awarding committee found him worthy of it...for their own reasons.Or maybe he genuinely is.What difference does it make what we think about it? :-S
Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor
Truthfulvisitor said "Once Iran has its nuclear armoury in place, which could be in the next few years, I'm sure both sides will sit down over cups of coffee and 'engage' each other with 'meaningful' dialogues about the "shared aspirations" for regional and world peace"
This is the exact point of my signature,not to promote war, but to deter it using the only check mate solution because the way things are headed and the econimic climate in the States the oil rich countries will continue being invaded and people killed.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Obama has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. I am stunned, because the Peace Prize has been awarded to a man who has been in office for less than a year. And done nothing of note.
According to the Nobel committee, it was “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”.
According to me "He might be a awarded for his action in future as per his promises in past"
By awarding such a respected prize to someone who has done so little, seems to dilute its value. I’d love to see Obama earn this award. I would love to see the US take a leading position in the world on moral issues.
I love it. But I don’t love awards being handed out as if it were a popularity contest.
Imran
The Nobel Committee have put a real nail in their own coffin with this one, and Obama should have the intelligence to decline the award - now that would truly be remarkable and serve him very well. After this, there will be little prestige associated with getting such an award in the future.
The nomination for this prize was made 10 days after he took office, so it is based on his 10 days of presidency. This decision was made by a leftish Norwegian panel who want to say that 'thank God Bush has left office' and they wish to assert that Obama is their best hope in being weak and indecisive in steering Western interests.
Even until the present day, nothing has really changed in American policy, and there may be another 40,000 troops going into Afghanistan very soon.
What this really comes from is his appeasement of radical Islam and her many extremists. Bowing apologetically at the feet of the apparently oppressed and dispossessed really fires up the hearts and minds of liberals everywhere and I suspect it is from this basis that the misconstrued 'hallucination' of peace has come.
(What a mistake to make. Once Iran has its nuclear armoury in place, which could be in the next few years, I'm sure both sides will sit down over cups of coffee and 'engage' each other with 'meaningful' dialogues about the "shared aspirations" for regional and world peace. )
He really should decline it. That's even better than being awarded the prize and accepting it.
"Apparently for NOT being George Bush!!" said Chairboy. Now THAT's ROFLMAO funny!! hahaha
Isnt the world relieved!
--------Do I look like Bambi's sister???-------
the world is going mad! the world is going mad !
and the Nobel Academy will have to clean his hands from afghan innocent's blood ...quiet rural families desssiminated with supra-intelligent-bombs at several opportunities since his election.
We like the US and have nothing against Americans. Absolutely nothing.
Unfortunately, there are many bad politicians in the US government. US's policy in middle east has not been very friendly nor respectful. As a result, we condemn the US government.
Unfortunately, not many Americans see this. Propaganda has affected them, not all but a significant portion, to believe that we hate them! we start hearing things like "why do they hate us"!! We don't!
We have made mistakes, but usually learn from them. It is too easy to blame us for all the world's problems. I do agree that we have fingers in too many pies.
No apology required scarlett as long as there is a healthy discussion..
I will say that mmyke didn't say that the people who are in these countries are useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant. She said the dictators/rulers are. Now while those are not terms I would totally agree with using, I will admit that some of them do fit some of the people who run some countries, or at least they APPEAR to be, by their actions and reactions.
Still say that if only the rulers of countries would only fight each other when they have a disagreement, that that the world could most likely get along on its own! Or maybe we could just put them in the corner until they agree to disagree, shake hands and get along.
Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift.
I was thinking the same thing Alexa...
SDK...do you NOT see the irony of what you just said? That people can't say anything about YOUR(or others) country and its people who have never stepped into the country and doesn't know much about it at all.
ALL you have to do is look at, I'd say, 95% of the posts on QL and see how many times America(and Americans) are slammed for everything under the sun! I would be willing to bet that the majority of those who do the slamming haven't seen, stepped foot, or even spoken to an American. My goodness we even get blamed for creating wars that started WAY before we were even a country!
Let's not go for a double standard on comments concerning countries..what's ok for one should be ok for another.
Now on the Noble prize...not sure I would go as far as giving it to Obama since he's not been in office long enough to say what he's doing is going to work or not, BUT, he IS trying. And as Samix said that this is to stop Americans from thinking...sorry Samix, but I burst out laughing at that comment. I find you funny, altho complete wrong! You obviously don't know us very well!!
Give Obama time..he's having to deal with what Bush put into action before he left office. That will take a MINIMUM of 2 years to see any type of results. I swear some people think that the changes should have been overnight or even BEFORE he was sworn in!!!
Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift.
Scarlett I do tell US bashers also when they start, They are just too many in numbers for me to stop them.
Personally I condemn US only for the war in Iraq, about the rest I don't care.
Obama is trying to bring change and DOES deserve a chance. However, this discussion is about the Nobel prize. I personaly don't think he deserves it so early in his Presidency.
However, the choice is with the committee and they voted for him..
what did he do before becoming President? Did anyone know much about him? The date for closing of nomination was feb 1st. That means he was president for just one month and the committee evaluated him for his 100 days performance? I suppose like everything else, Nobel prize is also becoming a joke.
I think mmyke we should return to the original subject on this thread. We will discuss it again for sure in some other relevant thread.
a logical deduction.
mmyke if you had, you won't be making such statements about all 3rd world countries.
how do you know that I have never been there?
Yes they have Alexa but I didn't like the fact that the leader I had elected to lead my country is called names by someone who has never stepped into my country and doesn't know much about it at all.
India is still a 3rd world country and falls under the generalisation made.
But still everyone has a right to voice their opinion so he can go on about it.
is that none of these countries even want to get better,,,
funny,, isn't it?
Nope not interested in meeting your kind mmyke.
lets go hug somewhere..
From your post mmyke..
he has approached most of the useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant dictators/rulers.
If you call all the rulers of 3rd world countries that then doesn't speak much for us, does it.
I remember you calling all Afghans similar things for killing few canadians in the war there. It was ok for you to kill thousands of Afghans by canadians but 1 canadian died and you labelled all of them barbaric.
Open your mind mate, seriously..
hurt your feelings,,,,?
I'm agreed with sandeepkadian.
:
PLS REREAD...
Actually I take offence to mmyke calling all people from developing countries uneducated, useless and what not in a number of threads. I personally feel this line of thinking is even worse than the US bashing. Worst case of generalisation I have ever seen..
I surprised, why it is not gone to George W Bush. Nowadays the credibility is a question for such international awards...
I am continually stunned by just how irresponsible most non-western governments are. Just look around,,,they can't even be polite company...
I agree with Alexa,,,,
* I beg to disagree Alexa, its just propaganda that the world looks towards America to solve all its problems.
* I don't rather I and most of the people that I know think that america(not ppl but its policy) are a part of the problem not the solution.
wa salaam,
Muhammed Sameer
Alexa agree with what you are saying but the peace prize should have gone to someone who acted to bring about some peace, thats all.
but Michael would be cool.
Should not this prize go to George Galloway or Michael Moore??!!!
I see they achieved more to humanity than did Obama!
Obama is not even close to these two!
This is the ONLY Nobel prize which is awarded by the commitee and not voted for....
So, blame the committee.
if any of those tin-pot third world nobodies had 1/4 the power of the US we would be in terrible trouble,,,,much, much more than having the USA at the forefront..
* what crap, I never thought that the whole wide world is so rigged!
* They are just trying their best to make obama appear as a hero for the american people so that they stop thinking and unquestionable start accepting his policies
* Nobel PEACE PRIZE for a president of a country that is engaged in illegal wars with half of the worlds population ?
* This is outrageous, I am now starting to believe in what people say about the New World Order and its tentacles.
wa salaam,
Muhammed Sameer
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."
I leave the judgement to you .............
has has turned Bush's policies around 180 degrees...he now has a recognition of world support.
surprise.. guyz its a shock.. like americans would say.. its a shaaak.. shaaking!!!
its way way way too early to award obama that.. man politics and corruption on a new level
knocks the legs out from Obama's domestic enemies,,,so I think that there will be some ground to be made up there as well..
I see your point, but after 8 years of Bush, it is nice to see planning, intellectualism, and structure in what he is doing,,,,the other leaders di give a hoot, its plain and simple geoploitics...and I do think extremem force is going to be used,,I can't see any other remedy with our friends just north of us,,,
but you also have to agree that the American ship of state is a terribly big one to turn around, and for a little black boy from Hawaii to do as much as he has already done is quite remarkable,,,,so, he has now been given this gift to help him, and us, proceed along a more intelligent path.
Now all these other folks out there causing havoc will have to confront not just an American President, but also a Noble Lauriate,,,let that Iranian President handle that one now...
Lets see what Obama's next 8 months will accomplish..
Speeches are worthless unless something concrete is achieved. Would you not agree ?
:)
"useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant dictators/rulers", I am done discussing anything with you mmyke. Enjoy yourself.
he has approached most of the useless, uneducated, hostile, 3rd world ignorant dictators/rulers and has opened his hand,,,For instance his ovatures to Iran, North Korea, and the speach in Egypt,,,he certainly did not need to do those things,,,,
It could be argued that North Korea has won the day.. Under the agreement, Six-Partis were to participate in trying to end North Korea's nuclear program through a negotiatiins - China, the United States, North and South Korea, Japan, and Russia.
As far as the Middle East is concerned, nothing much has been achieved. In fact, Netanyahu has stuck his fingers at the US by increasing the building of settlements..
isn't too early to jusge Obama's impact at international level?!
mmyke that's what I wanted to ask you actually.
I am just saying what has he done to get the peace prize?
what the blazes are you talking about??
Nobel prize was not started to boost the confidence of US presidents if I remember correctly.
Negotiate with North Korea, Iran, and the numerous parties in the Middle East??? Same way Bush negotiated with Iraq???
when he negotiates with North Korea, Iran, and the numerous parties in the Middle East, he will have more moral strength...
Its a very good development...
sim sim the trio of Yasser Arafat, Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. They got the Nobel peace Prize for transforming themselves from "hardcore terrorists" to "mild terrorists"
Clearly a politically motivated decision and one that I feel undermines the credibility of the institution, the prize and previous recipients.
Yes, a big surprise!
Apparently for NOT being George Bush!! ..... and his sterling efforts on International diplomacy in his first 6 months in power - that clearly doesnt include his focus on Afghanistan!!
For what?????