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What about the poor fox that was found dead there?

No consideration for it?

Nope, only an arguement whether dogs are tastier than children or something.

Factoid (not calling anyone a liar, but...):

A fox was found dead on/near the beach. Dogs died shortly thereafter from "poisoning".

No independent references to the above, but not too surprising in this country.

No mention of a vector of said event. WHAT was the source of the poison? If the dogs didn't eat or drink anything (and the report was that the dogs left the dead fox alone), what was the vector? If it were contact poison, any human would be dead as well, since it would be a contact poison.

IF it's a real event, it's a public health issue. Small children put all manner of things in their mouths, it'd be a matter of time until one died from something on a public beach.

If it's a factual account, it MIGHT be a wildlife/feral animal control issue that went awry. I'm FAR from against poisoning animals that prove a problem to human habitiation when other lesser measures are ineffective. Even feral dogs.

And yes, I've had dogs all of my life and consider them great companions and even friends. But feral animals are a different story.

If you think otherwise, try getting stalked by a hungry pack of feral dogs on for size. I did, didn't like it. THEY didn't like the report from my weapon either. But that was back home, where we're more "enlightened" and ignore the risk of feral animals until a disaster strikes, such as a child mauled and killed by a pack of feral dogs in our city.

BEFORE we go off half-cocked, let's get ALL of the facts. First, did this actually happen? If so, what was the vector (bait station? Bait laid out in the open? Tray of liquid? Nerve gas mine? Nuclear warhead? Rabid Mother-in-law?)???

Has law enforcement been informed? If so, the response?

What was the toxic agent? Was it intentional or accidental?

Has the Mother-in-law been informed she's rabid?

sorry, dear...

All I've read is an unconfirmed story and a LOT of emotional response and BS.

And something about how someone loves to eat dog. Known a few folks that liked dog. So what? For them it's meat, not your pet! Get over differences in cultural norms!

Tallg I'm glad you thought so but I decided it was a bit too personal, still nomerci has expressed similar in that grief comes from same place.

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I do understand in general what you were attempting to say..however it really had no place here as that was not the issue. How a person feels about their pet is their business and I was just trying to get across how deeply this loss was felt to the ones who lost their beloved pet.

Thank you for your apology and I'm sure you truly didn't mean to be insensitive, we all just think differently than other people.

Jauntie...I'm with you...I want the results as fast as possible...so maybe something can be done about this to avoid another occurance.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

I just didn't want to use the word 'analysis' twice and I quite simply have a tendency to hit the 's when I can't think of a word that seems to fit the bill.

'test' was the only word I could think of, but I didn't feel it was the right one.

SHEESH! NOW who's being 'sensitive' - oi you! lol

And, anyway, I don't care where the results are published, but I shall be interested in them when they are, as I'm sure we all will.

taliesin - why delete your comment? I thought it was good.

jauntie - I'm sure the results of the 'tests' (why are we putting ' ' round tests???!) will be publicised on QL even if this thread is locked. I just think the thread is degenerating into one-up-man-ship and insensitivity.

at Al Wakra (as mentioned in this thread) was taken for analysis, so hopefully someone will let us all know the result of the 'tests' when they become available.

Better not to close the thread before we all know the truth of what is behind this poor dog's death, for all our sakes.

I think people must stop judge people. One person has pain from losing child, another person has pain from losing dog, pain comes from the same place, feels the same way.

What comes around, goes around....

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"There's this thing called being so open-minded your brains drop out". - Richard Dawkins

People see things differently from each other. Lets just leave it at that. We don't have to understand it or even accept it, but if it's not hurting anyone else why provoke the matter?

Someone made a comment earlier in this thread about something in their life that I could never imagine doing or comprehend, but I'm not going to judge them for it because it's not hurting anyone, and I understand that people are from different cultures, have different ways of doing things etc, etc.

I think the mods should lock this thread because people are just upsetting each other, albeit unintentionally, and the original issue of poison being laid in a public place has been lost.

Abu...simple. Walk in another's shoes. Thats the not the comparison, never was but the understanding

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Abu......your words were not that painful, and respectably they were honest, but compared to others :(

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Abu, I remember reading a posting of yours stating your inability to converse with a native in arabic. It was very deep and touching although many expats I have met here would have laughed at your posting. This is similar although its not a language but an attitude. I am assuming that you don't understand the comparison about dog vs child, in that alot of child therapists (and marriage councillors) will say that the patience and ethos required in training a dog is basically similar. Words hurt more as you obviously know and I would have assume more choice in how people express their views, considering in this there is a child comparison, whether you see it or not. There is 100% are more suffering.

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I have held back like I do on many postings and comments but here I can't anymore. Yes, I have come into a counrty where the expat rate is much higher than where i come from yet I try to assimulate as best I can. Yet I see people making comments on others beliefs, which are deeply meaningful to them, harshly and very unkind. People seem to accept differing beliefs on certain grounds but when people are posting about love and kindness in this sense, the knives come out as its againgst their own beliefs. Here, on this thread, has only love, loss, kindness to others been shown here yet some seem to take it as a reason to exploit a part of themselves that may have be left unsaid in other areas. Please, celebrate the love, the community spirit expressed here and anything else not suiting the original posting, speak it out loud to yourself or another being, not here.

Thank you in advance

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many poisons are absorbed THROUGH the skin if touched...that's one of the reasons I put this post up on QL..to warn others that might have children or pets. If its what I think it is...and that will be determined soon...then it IS one that can permeate the skin.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

dogs can be a family member and very close to being a child to many people. If you don't understand that, that's fine...as we are all entitled to our personal opinions. But when you cross that line and make someone who is already grieving, feel even worse...shame on you...where is your sense of propriety and caring? Abu, you surprised me on this one....remember...if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

ok we've had our differences in the past but you really went too far on your questioning...I do find your post quite insulting.

Yes, a very special dog died and no, by no means is this innuendo. Give us time and it will all come out in the wash.

Until then...please just keep your nasty sly comments to yourself.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

I too am scared of what my pet would eat when I'm at work. Since I live in a villa where other people also lives, my housemates tend to feed him (my dog) rice and other meat/fish dishes. Then , when I'm home, i feed him dog food.

I loved my dog as if he's human...doesn't mean he takes the place of my kids (they're in the Philippines with my mom) but my pet gave me the love and companionship...just like what human does.

So, I could feel for the person who lost their pet because of some people's carelessness...

You know that a dog's nose is so sensitive that it can smell cancerous cells?

I wonder if there is a human, or a machine that can do that?

You know what they say:

Dogs have masters

Cats have servants

Awww, now that does put a smile to my face. She looks so happy and comfortable. :) You really must send me some pictures. I still have that really nice one with her looking straight into the camera. Glad to see that she is well. :)

PS: I really like "how I can have one living in my house, walk it twice a day and go round after it picking up its poo!" LOL too true! :)

Tallg: No offence taken. For some people, chain gives an impression of a dog being ferocious. They might not be as scared if they had seen her roaming around by herself :-)

Sorry Winn, I wasn't deliberately generalising. But all the labourers on and around our compound (mostly Indian) are sh!t scared of our dog!

She's a Saluki cross;

Far from frightening!

Tallg: I am an Indian and I've had one living in my house from ever since we adopted it (when it was small enough to fit in my palm) to its death. Btw, which breed is ur dog? Maybe ppl are givin you a wide berth simply coz they are scared? :-p

Abu: A pet dog can read its owner's mood by just a glance at his face. Darnd if I know how. I wouldnt compare dogs with kids though...each hold their own place.

Well you're lucky you've had both Abu. Not everyone is as lucky.

"things that I will never understand"

That's a good way of putting it Winn. Just as I'm sure the Indian guys who give me strange looks and a wide berth when I'm walking the dog "will never understand" how I can have one living in my house, walk it twice a day and go round after it picking up its poo!

Skanky: You mean pets or strays? But whatever it is, its shocking!!

Only people who have had a dog as a pet can understand what it feels to have the kind of loyalty, understanding and companionship extended by them. Should say that many a time, they have come across to be more compassionate and intelligent than some of our own kind.

As for eating dogs, I would classify that under "things that I will never understand".

All pets here are gone forever, Not even the cats.

I checked today and everyone is gone, so they put whatever they put all over the town.

If you guys come to Simaisma you will only see one Horse which is keep it close to his owner house and the birds thats it.

Pucking Criminals!!!

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Nothing will be done over Eid brit. Have patience.

OK..Has anyone really proved that it was poison?? And how was it distributed ??

Or is it all innuendo ?

Thanks for your post....

Beside the fact that my dog was poisoned....we only wanted to warn people to watch out when they go to the beach...as it could be a child that touched that poison and die of it.....

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timtan - the poison was at the beach, where kids play. They could easily pick up the poison just by touching the source and transfer it to their mouths.

Everytime i want to comment on the dog issue someone says we need to respect peoples' feelings/culture etc so I'll just say I feel really sorry for your loss desert queen. I'd be devastated if something happened to my pet. Lots of Hugs.

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Agreed, it has no place on this thread. Some opinions should be put to one side at sensitive times.

you are right tallg, and i apologise if i was rude, but i will not apologise for my opinion of people that eat dogs. Vegans have the same opinion of meat eaters, it's just that it is socially acceptable to eat cow meat etc. I just cannot see how timtams posting has any place in this thread.

I cannot comprehend how people can be so cruel and make such callous remarks when we are talking about the sadness and loss of a very loved pet.

DQ, I am so sorry that you not only have to endure the loss of your baby, but that you also have to read what these cruel and heartless people think is "fine" to say.

Let's hope the authorities do something about this. God forbid a child gets poisoned next time.

People, people - try and respect each other's cultures! We all know that dogs are held in different levels of esteem in different parts of the world. Some people eat them because that's part of their culture. Some people keep them as pets and treat them like family, which is fine too. To disrespect peoples cultures and be rude to them just because they differ from you is very narrow minded.

Anyway, this discussion is off-topic. The concern is that poison may be being laid in public places, which should be a worry for all regardless of your culture. Hopefully we'll found out more after the Eid break.

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And to those who couldn`t.....

I think it`s a personal opinion how you see your Pet...

We did see him as a member of our family...and I think everyone should respect how people see their Pets.....as a dog or as a family-member...and you shouldn`t judge those who see them more as just a animal....

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Tim tam, people like you truly disgust me. I think anyone that eats dog meat is an inferior race of human.

WHERE ON EARTH IS THE GOVERNMENT?!!

I just read this post and from the symptoms I think this is MSG poisoning.

A piece of meat of laced with even a tablespoon of MSG is deadly to dogs and would show the symptoms above. I had a dog that was a victim of such an attack and I still found a piece of what he ate. (It was thrown to him from outside our fence). It was so disheartening watching him moan and shaking until he died.

From that time I trained my dogs not to eat anything thrown to them or food lying around and eat only what is in their feeding bowl.

Don't even go there. Not only are you being insensitive towards the grief being felt by his owners (my personal friends) but you are showing how callous you are....................oh it's just a dog?

He wasn't just any dog. He was a friend. To all of us that knew him, he was a sweet companion who made us smile, laugh and love. He will be very missed.

And for some people (especially when they don't have children) a dog can fill that empty spot with the love usually reserved for a child. It's not weird. It just takes someone a little more open minded to understand.

Please be careful pet owners.

ok wow...how this thread has drifted...and not in a good way!

Timtan...please do not take it upon yourself to deal with the animal population. Leave that to the government officials who do that as a job. As far as eating them...nope, no way, no how. If you are going to cull dogs then never be indiscriminate...cull the ones you KNOW to be attacking your animals NOT the ones who are pets. That's where the officials come in...that is their job.

Oryx...yes the working dog is the basis for ALL dogs..but some societies switched into caring for them as pets. Actually I know several Qataris and other Muslims that have them as pets as well. What I've come to understand is that they can have them as pets just not inside the house. That still doesn't excuse the person who sets out poison tho...That person has no sense of right and wrong.

Abu...thank you for your comments....It is a different breed of person who thinks of pets as children or family. I am one of those, as well as my friend. I would go to the same lengths to save my dog as I would my child. Oddly enough..my parents weren't like that...I think they liked the dog better.... go figure..

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

But thats the difference Scarlett... Salukis are working dogs not kept as a pet....

as things have changed here...less people have Salukis and maybe this has widened the gap more between man and animal....

its so sad - to go around poisoning animals...there is a big difference between vermin and abandonned pets.

and Numpty skulls who cant grasp that difference...

"dogs… fried with fish and oyster sauce is great if cooked right with a little small red garlic…"

gremlins... ( you're right abu,,,)

azi??? baseball bat or Harry Potter?

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couldnt agree more AA, very insensitive and thoughtless.

Thailand does have a very bad problem with stray dogs (worse than Qatar even), but poisoning them isn't the solution.

I agree that the THOUGHT culture concerning animals is totally different among expats than over here, but actually the saluki is the oldest dog in the world..its the native dog here also. They have been used for hunting and racing for thousands of years.

As far as naming dogs for people...its common and cultural...just like not naming dogs for people over here.

Skanky, I am SO sorry to hear about the 3 dogs!! I never met them but any time someone is heartless enough to poison an animal is bad...again I say...they will have to answer to a higher power in the long run. Until then they need to stop randomly killing God's creatures.

Stealth...ok, so WHERE do you suggest we take the dogs so they can get some energy out without scaring those in this country who are totally afraid of dogs?? We took them to a beach, early in the morning, where virtually no one goes..plus..that's where they exercise the falcons...what if one of those happened to pick up a piece of this poisoned food???

Dweller...thank you ever so much for that suggestion on the vodka...will take it with me from now on along with salt water to induce vomiting.

Speed...as always...thank you...might just call upon you in a few days.

Timtan...SHAME on you for your comment...where is your conscience?

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

I sent a message to the Editor of The Peninsular (an acquaintance of mine). Perhaps they will look into it - I haven't heard back yet and didn't really expect to as I just sent the thread to her for information, but you never know.

This is really shocking and sad...especially on some random beach....oh dear :(

Dear Scarlett I feel saddened that you and your chum had to go something so tramautic....

The poisoning in more residential areas i have heard of.... some people here are very scared of dogs so they poison them....

The whole pet thing is a culture us expats are bringing into Qatar.... and well i guess some appreciate it and some dont.

Its just totally the wrong answer though.... Oh dear.

Why were you offended by my question? I'm just curious to know the reason.

I just feel so sad about hearing this, Im seriously thinking if i want to bring the little pooch over. Ive been thinking about the this for the last few weeks but this news really was disturbing. Id be too worried to leave little poochie at home in a new enviroment so i might leave it for now. Plus being in a new country for me will be hard enough i dont want to make it hard on poochi.

Oh, my God, that's terrible! :( What insane people there are, unbeliavable! I don't even want to write here, what I wish for them...

I hope the other dogs of your friends are fine and wish no more animal will get hurt by that! And humans of course.

Really, a newspaper or authorities should know about this, before it takes any more victims. :(

It's true that had working hadn't killed anyone yet, but why to take risk?

This is so sad....my heart goes out to the dog owner.

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Lovinni in my case I know it was poison I live by the beach, but my dogs were poisoned close to my house (ALL 3)

I think its just a anti pet culture in my case.

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just wondering..could this be toxic wastes? dump on that beach or beaches?

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Where is stated human and animal names requirements??? Probably your name is one of my pets name??? then who's who?

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there are many things we dont understand.

About the names: Why would someone give a dog a humans name? That I never understood.

Sorry the dog's died.

We Use it at home in our national parks for foxes the the problem with 1080 is it stays in the dead animal and kills fast and you have no time to get to a vet not that there is much a vet can do to counter act the poison...At home if you live near a national park , Parks and wildlife rangers send out a flyer letting you know when they bait and post signs around the area of baiting so you can watch your animals.

Gypsy the cat poisoning could also be from the baiting of of the rats and mice that they do. we have one such baiting tunnel outside our villa..if we see our cats with a rat or even a mouse we get it off them as soon as possible for this reason..we are just lucky that our cats like to parade their kill and bring them to us before they consume them...

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moral of the story: dont take the dogs to the beach

Sam, Jacob & Obama were poisoned in Simaisma.

Sam die maybe by May, and Jacob & Obama last week.

Most of the Qlrs met Jacob, and Obama which used to eat my dog food was welcomed in my house after Alexa told me how lovely that dog was...

Sadly but truth, I think there is a big gap in teaching respect to the animals to some people.

DO NOT LET YOUR PET PLAY ALONE IN THE STREET / BEACH LIKE ME!!!

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this is very alarming. thanks for the post scarlette...i was planning to take my dog for a stroll on the beach. but nevermind...hope this issue gets cleared...

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You can't teach experience...

We've had problems in our neighbourhood with people poisoning cats. One of ours got into something and died, so I now keep my kitties as indoor kitties. The fact of the matter is that some people here don't view animals as creatures with feelings or who can feel pain.

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especially in these circumstances (i.e. some sort of poison)

The owner of the dog has my heartfelt sympathy.

I hope the news ends happily and that this was just an ISOLATED incident and wont put you off bringing you pooch to Doha

I can get over how someone can be so cruel. Im sadden to hear that their two dogs died. People often treat their dogs like their children its an integral part of their life. I feel so sad for that couple. I was thinking of bringing over a little teacup pooch. This news has just disturbed me, I dont think I will now.

on the beach she was walking dogs with a friend. Very upsetting cos one of the dogs died.

She did NOT scare people off the beaches of Doha.

great headline alexa

so I guess you MUST know lots to scare people like that, no?

"Well, if somebody wants to rid the beaches of, for example, rats, fine, but then the public should be warned, so that what happened this morning, or worse, can be prevented"

OK I go along with that.

If, as Scarlett found out today, there is a problem which may affect the public, then yes, of course it should be prevented, but I don't think I'd go down the HEADLINE tabloid route before I knew the facts.

OK. You will say: but what if a kid was on that same dune? I think Scarlett has identified the area as Al Wakra - NOT every beach in Doha. no?

well, not to my knowledge anyway.

Another beach?

Hey look - I think it's very worrying and all that, but I do like to know the facts, that's all.

I just do.

I wouldn't wish that death on any living creature

I agree that antifreeze doesn't fit the time frame. We thought one of our cats had been licking up anti-freeze and the American vet at the zoo said to give it vodka. Apparently that works and is apparently what they used to tell the bedouins.

It's worth keeping the fact in mind just in case.

I didn't believe where she said the bedouins got vodka from.

I think we should do something immediately!! If you need any help pls. do let me know.

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ive read a couple of articles regarding dogs dying on beaches due to poisoning...

the usual cause STRYCHNINE...

-it is a common pesticide use to kill rodents, moles, gophers etc...

-it causes convulsion, then rigidity... that will lead to respiratory failure...

- most commont victims by accident: dogs...

-usual place of occurence: beaches

pesticides on qatari beaches... how? that i dont know... there have several cases of the same type... dog poisoning on beaches due strychnine.

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lots of people have pets here, so I hope you can find out what caused this situation.

Yes, I know the policies of the municipalities concerning animal population control...I won't even go into that one....but If you were instumental in getting the spay neuter started at EC..then BLESS YOU!!! The goverment also will spay or neuter any animal brought in for free. They are the nicest folks there.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

but jauntie, what you don't understand is that the area we were in WAS beach....the tide was in and it forced us up into a higher ground...the area the dogs got poisoned was less than 100 feet from the water. If that's not "beach", I don't know what is...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

the dunes aren't the 'beach'. So it isn't fair to suggest the beaches aren't safe is it.

I'm probably nit picking here, but alexa headed her thread POISON AT THE BEACH - BEWARE

Pretty scary stuff.

they stayed on the road....Whatever these two dogs ate was up in there...and am going on the assumption that the first dog ate the most of the substance and the 2nd got much less. You'd be amazed what you can mix with meat or dog food that dogs and wildlife will eat.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

so what DID it eat to cause it's death and make the other one so ill. Your dogs were OK, so how come they didn't get ill too!

Need to get a Miss Marples hat on here ....

P.S. Did the vet have any idea?

on antifreeze poisoning and it doesn't fit the time frame or symptoms...

Antifreeze poisoning occurs in two stages: In the first stage, the ethylene glycol in the antifreeze causes a drunken appearance in the animal within about 30 minutes which may continue for several hours. After passing through stage 1, the animal appears to recover. Stage 2 begins when the dog's liver begins metabolizing the ethylene glycol, changing it into more toxic substances. Within 12 to 36 hours of ingestion, these metabolites have reached such a level that the dog's kidneys stop functioning, and the animal slips into a coma.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

and we've checked with the coast guard to see if dogs are allowed there, and they said yes.

Usually most rat poisons are anticoagulants..ie, they make the animal bleed inside....it takes much longer than this did.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

because whatever poison that is used to kill them, if a cat or dog eats the dead rat...they also get poisoned.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

I mean .. if someone is putting down poison to rid their 'territory' or 'farm' or whatever of pests .. would they need a licence to do so?

Probably a stupid comment by me, cos of course anyone can put down 'rat poison', but can they do so outwith their own domain? aka Public Beach???

I've heard of people doing that also, back in the States...its horrible.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

The poison is probably antifreeze. My mothers neighbor put it out for our dog in Canada a few years back. It acts very quickly, we couldnt even get the dog to the vet in time, it shuts down their organs. The vet said this is the best poison to kill dogs as it is odorless and tasteless and for some reason they are rather drawn to it. ____________________________________________________

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I'm going to try and be generous and think that they didn't mean to hurt the dogs...but ...who knows...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

but I'm still keeping an eye on them as they have been rather subdued all day.

Could be that with the nutter part or perhaps they were trying to rid the beach of "whatever"...I just don't want this to happen to other pets (or wildlife!) and certainly not to humans...depending on what was used, it could be something that can be absorbed through the skin...that would be disasterous if some child picked it up..

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

HOLY CRAP!

What is with these idiots!

Did you Google it first?

Hopefully this is a one-off incident and not something which affects all beaches. Just some nutter who doesn't like dogs on 'their' beach at Al Wakra ..

please keep those kinds of comments to yourself..these people have enough grief to deal with instead of you taking a poke at their emotions. That's just plain mean hearted.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

thank you

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

Can someone please confirm this, in order that i report this to CDC.This is serious

A dog can never be a child. That's just weird.

"this dog was like a child". Poor people.

It was posted on the other thread too. Its really alarming and needs action for it.

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gremlins attackin once again... have you informed any concern authorities... this is alarming.., tsk.,

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You should let the newspaper know about this. Maybe they can investigate. This is dangerous for everyone.

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What is their problem?! Ouch, poor creatures..

thats a despicable act, what do they have to gain from this. Sorry to hear about your friends dog...