Please help him his neck is broken

Na'am..blind following is absolutely a no no. And no true Salafi upon the path of the Prophet and his sahabah should ever blind follow anyone. One should always always seek knowledge and research as to why one should or shouldn't do any action. That was the way of the Salaf.

people who claim to be salafi or Muslim brotherhoods where the leaders say to their followers do not discuss so that you do not fall.

Following blindly is bad.

These people forgot that our prophet PBUH allowed his friend to discuss with him.

And also when Umar ibn al-Khattāb allowed a woman to ask him a question, those who do not know Umar ibn al-Khattāb can hhave a look at this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar

More information can be found in the Islamic websites for those who are interested.

I agree we definitely and ideally need to correct ourselves before we correct others. But many of us seem to have the "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.And notice the flaws in another's character than our own..sadly!

as long as you do not touch theirs.

Our prophet PBUH had a jews neighbour and never ignored him.

Our prophet PBUH gave an example of living with others who had a different belief.

Ok lets go now back to the subject

That's what Islam is about..stick to your beliefs and hold onto your eemaan. However when it comes to advising there are methods in doing so. Manhaj is as important as Akheeda bro...The Prophet preached Thawhid for 13 odd years,from what I memo Allahu alam, before he got onto other matters. If a person's akheeda is not of yours then how will they ever agree with your manners and beliefs? Will they not reject it then?

and you had commented on this in one of the posts, if the inside is clean, then it will affect the outside.

The dress is like the outside paint of a house but what is inside the house is what really matters.

But if the belief for example tells that the outside of the house must be painted with a certain color then it should.

The topic of dress has been discussed many times, let us focus on our inside and then automatically the outside will be changed.

Pssst, pilgram. Don't tell SA everything. He knows too much already.

That's not true LP. Men can be raped, and are more frequently than anyone would like to admit, by other men. It's just that when that happens men are told to be quiet about it to cover the "embarrasment"

there is a God who will take care of them and not me, my rule is only to advise and enlighten wrong thoughts.

It is all about self confidence, in my opinion the strongets the confidence is the strongest the sticking to the beliefs is.

Aah! A logical explanation finally.

Fundamentalist people are limited, SA. They are not able to adjust to the obvious changes that take place all around them.

It's because men cannot be raped, and if it should happen, they enjoy it.

We have never heard of the fundamentalist Muslims some years ago, and this term is used wrongly?

What is wrong with fundamentalist people, aren't they educated, maybe more than me and you?

Yes I agree with you eyes speak

Whilst many Muslim men, Arab and non Arabs are always for speaking about a woman's dress code in Islam,and how a woman should abide by them, I notice many men today seem to have abandoned the male's dress code according to Islam!Who's to be blamed for that? No one...they do so by their own choice as do the women. Fact!

Did you ever stop to think SA that it isn't the westerners deleting the border lines? That arabs are breaking them because they want to? And that these arab women are going naked of their belief's because they want to?

I can't agree with you, SA. A Westerner would not at all be interested in an Arabic woman. It's just too much hassle. And I think that there are more fundamentalist Muslims who want to 'delete' the Western culture than vice versa. I have never laughed about a veiled woman. And wearing the veil or not doesn't make a difference at all. The eyes speak, my friend, and they are still visible. And yes, you should look each other in the eye if you are not a coward or else you have something to hide.

I respect any Western as long as he lives his/her life according their style of life, I am not against what is here in Qatar, from drink in hotels, or night clubs,...etc. These are made for those who want to go their, if some does not like he is not forced to go there.

Qatari people are grown up and they know what to do.

My message is live with others maintaining your values and at the same time respect their values.

I am agains a Western who wants to delete the Arabic and Islamic culture, for example some Western wants the Arabic woman to be naked of her values and beliefs.

There are border lines which we all must not cross, live and let others live.

Those who want to delete these border lines I am against them.

Do not be very solid so that you are broken easily, and not soft so that you are squeezed, be flexible maintaining your border lines.

SA did you tell those guys off? or did you do the same as those guys and scanned the lady top to toe?

SA, nothing against you. But you are the one who is not trying. You have an answer (link) for everything, may it be a decent link or not. And anybody who doesn't share your limited views is not accepted by you. You feel obliged to 'save' those poor souls. Have you ever thought that they don't want to be 'saved'?

There is no person who is perfect, also some people refuse to admit that they had lost a debate, what is the shame if you yes your point is valid?

Why don't you start with yourself then, SA?

but turning and making scan I think it is not a good habit.

Those who like stare and scan, must not got angry when others do the same to their wives.

My message is:

Repair your self bfore you repair others.

I must say that some times I am curious, so I saw them doing something strange according to me, but any how it will better for me to ignore such things next time.

so SA for you to take in the whole situation you yourself must have been staring at them - what does that say about you?

So which women are acceptable to stare at and which aren't?

And why were you staring at these guys?

Ha, ha. That's the difference, TB. They stare at you, but the smile at me!

I don't know Rizks, perhaps it's my beautiful blue eyes, or my manly mature grey hair in a nice side parting, or my stunning good looks over all.

Then again they could just be thinking 'look at that fat ba5tard over there'

TB wat they stare in you ? :(

Women stare at me all the time. It doesn't bother me.

They don't 'admire', WK, they think of 'rape'!

What's the harm in admiring beauty?

How rude! Guess these kids need a lesson in manners and social etiquettes pronto.

We are a lot you wish you never find :P

Tinker I'm at dubs almost every freaking night :P not that their tea is great but its the gang's headquarters ;P

Can we use these guys as "scanners" in the office? Would save money, I guess.

this is common in malls guys scan ladies when ladies are unaware that they are being scanned.

thats wat i call "LUSTY SCANNERS" in the mall.

I think his neck broke when he turned to scan her. My scanner does the same thing every time i try to scan any documents it breaks.

Chai it is then, BTW apparently it was a Shakespear in the making ,....Broken Neck- Figure of Speech !....Duh!!!

double post

I was in the mood for chai today...but I think a cup of coffee is in order as well. :D

this guy turned back to look at her (180 degree) without turning his body...so, his neck broken

Smoke waasup, how 'bout coffee while we wait?

would like to stare some ladies , how do i do ?

That's what you normally do to your enemy. You scan him. Otherwise you run away as fast as you can.

we use in Arabic language to show that he/she stared more than enough.

First the guy turned his neck when she passed him and when she went further he turned his body to complete his scanning process.

There is no "neck" here...:( all i can see is only "STARES"....:(

then the girl kicked that guy and broke his neck?!

So, where does the 'neck'part fall?

lolz he wish he could break those head/necks...:)

I'm with you polka, *waiting mode*

.....Am still waiting to get to the broken neck part....

She was there to do her own job and those guys have their own mentality to give that kind of looks.Boys are what their background is.If you found somebody over dominating and bullying nature that means it reflects his own family and mental background.

Pervert stare