Small is beautiful for Qatar 2022

I might have to eat my words as I never believed that Qatar would actually get the World Cup, however being pragmatic and a complete whore, I am looking forward to raking in the profits from what will be a mad 12 years (or at least 5 of them as I plan to be out of here by 2016).

However, I'm more than willing to share my knowledge and experience of the logistics business here. Feel free to drop me a message anytime.

You were too late to comment.

I dont wanna reply you on your comments..

Sorry for U mate.

Go & have a sound sleep now :-)

al fazaa's gona have a great time..chasing..maybe they need to build a bigger facility to keep held pple..for drinkin, women, and much much more...hehehe..

it's set to be held in june july..hmm...42-50 degrees..hmm.oh wait..ders an idea!!..why dont they make the whole country air conditioned??!..perfect!:-P

@gardene: u the man!..i completely agree to you. I have been in this land for 25 years now..so..in another 11 years..nothins gona change..but if they win..good for them..but for us..it's gona be a boring football..so..:-(..

neways cheerz

XceptionalGreat:..dude...get a life!:-)..cheerz

final inference, if qatar gets the bid..cool..congrats to them, there hard work paid.BUT..to all football fans..it's gona be the worst world cup ever..wht is there in qatar man?? u guys all supportin speakin of air condition stadium n blah blah..the fact is..this is the middle east..and in the middle east..other than UAE and Bahrain..evrythin else is..blah blah blah.(u get it). no entertainment, no fun, just a small portion of the country..Doha (is it smaller than bahrain..yea guess so:-P)is so called developed..other than tht..it's..hmmmmm..so...it's all cool..even the committee for bidding sure does knw abt it..but yea..whteva..neways..if they're modernizing thins..etc etc..let's call it..the beginning of hypocrisy...cheerz

Russia Withdraws Bid for 2022 World Cup

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9119859.stm

who's next?

it looks like they haven't learnt a thing from the Eng-Brazil game where this happened.....if they can't cope with one game how on earth do they expect to cope with 64+ WC games IF they win the bid...

I feel naive for sure. I had hoped.

After the incident i went to the Tribeca stand and was given all the info correctly plus some! So it can be done.

Its so frustrating...its ticketing and there were a few 'big men' in charge but on their mobiles too busy to supervise, serve and train. Qatar gets conned by these idiots.

I could have trained these kids up in an hour. Instead there is an upset kid and and upset customers because the same thing happened to the lady next to me.

@ WK & oryx,as much as i'm empathize with your situation,i believe you both have lived here long enough to know this...don't buy the hype!...this is Qatar,things aren't going to change overnight...& of course they're not going to let you post anything that shows them in a bad light Oryx,did you actually think your post would remain there for all to see?...not in this town!...sorry about your loss guys,hope you get your money back...good luck...

Exceptional read the posts (if you are capable of actually reading) and you will see you are the Lone Ranger, no one is supporting your points and views!!!

Don't behave like an Ostrich.. U can notice if others are supporting me & Qatar's bid or not..

Anyways... gadarene...bye bye.. c u on 2nd Dec :-)

And KEEP IT IN YOUR MIND that you are nobody to teach me about "CIVIL SOCIETY" & its "ETIQUETTES"..

Just review your posts before leaving and introspect if there was any personal/racial attack on others or not !!

Writing too much does not mean that you are making a point.. it may be just a piece of sh*t.. but the opinionated guys like u would never like to digest the truth..

And the truth is that... QATAR will host the 2022 World Cup !!

My comment was deleted and I was 'unfriended'. I didn't say anything rude just stated the facts.

Sad they drive me to near tears get 140QR and no apology but delete etc

If someone had mailed me I would have had a lot of respect.

Link:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=159846087383148&ref=ts

World Cup??? I don't think so. Sadly :(

Hmmm good idea, let me try that

Well why don't you post your your post on their FB page.

I did this with AFC...but then again it looks like i have been deleted and block from that page because I can't find it now!

I lost 200 QR while buying 7 tickets for the Brazil- Argentina game..

Bank says go to QFA, they are saying they issued you 9 tickets not 7 as you claim..

QFA says, we only took money from your bank for 7 tickets, bank took from you so go to the bank..

I say fcuk off both of you

Your post was VERY interesting.....I would love to hear more of your ideas/experience especially of the 'behind the scenes' logistics.

I went to get my AFC tickets in Villagio.

25 minutes later and 140QR poorer i walked away with no tickets. (long story short of utter frustrating incompetency)

I went home and did it myself in 5 minutes.

If they can't sell you the correct tickets in 5 minutes for the AFC - how on earth can they manage the world cup?

I was really saddened by this. I wanted so much to believe in Qatar's ability to host the world cup.

Please dont write big big stories. Pls try to make it short. I am tired of reading big big stories.

I hope England wins 2018 and qatar 2022.

Must suck to be you after the collapse of Communism ;P

aaaah typical capitalistic pigs replies...russia will win 2018 and qatar can host 2022.

.....anyways, the world is going to End in 2012 :-) So all you beautiful people out there, we need to start enjoying our lives right now. FIFA will anyways make their money in 2010 - by having the voting process for two bids at the same time (also helps them get plump advertising/marketing deals upto 2022 in 2010!!!!!), publicizes the names of their Ex.Co (wonder what would happen if they do a last moment change of the Ex.Co voters), the list goes on...

You've just gotta luv 'em - all these sporting bodies.

Work hard, party harder!!!!

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/06/29/qatar-will-host-the-2022-football-world-cup/

He's listed out the reasons for Qatar to win the World Cup...... Everything else is secondary. Makes you wonder whether the World Cup is about football!!!

Another interesting article which states that the country which loses the bid would be very lucky - FIFA's the winner, moneywise, nothing else matters.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/lucky-the-country-that-loses-its-cup-bid-20101022-16xrs.html

For Qatar, none of know where we would be in 2022 - so for now, in 2010, if Qatar wins, we'd look at all projects, currently stalled, picking up the pace - airport, causeway,rail, port etc. This would obviously have a trickling down effect for all of us working here tomorrow - after 2 Dec.

I'm not a Qatari but I want Qatar to host the World Cup in 2022.

a) FIRST TIME in this part of the World.

b) Promotes cross-cultural understanding.

c) Most compact world cup ever. Great for fans and players to experience the World Cup atmosphere.

d) More time to watch matches. State of the Art Mass transits.

e) State of the Art Stadiums.

e) "Modular" seating will be used and will be donated to developing nations post World Cup to make 22 stadiums. WOW!!

e) Green- minded. Eco-friendly World Cup ever. Solar panel to cool the stadiums. No carbons. :-}

Other bidding countries should be nervous by now.

gadarene,

lol... before you go don't forget to defy him to show up here in this post, on 3 Dec 2010.

I doubt he will have the guts to do so ;)

Qatar's bid is loosing credibility by the misuse of its logo, trashed here by the user “XceptionalGreat”. He should be traced and sued.

@ Xceptional,you must think we were born yesterday!...nice try though!...but really,your posts(& those of your alter ego) clearly exhibit a lack of ability to hold a civil debate without abusing,launching personal attacks,etc. so really,as far as i'm concerned,i would rather not continue this debate with you,because it started as each side stating their opinion & their reasons for it but when you found yourself unable to answer legitimate questions,you lashed out with personal abuse,character defamation & the like in the hope that it would drown out the real issue...you are so typical of this place,try to talk sense to people & they get first defensive & then angry/abusive in the hope of scaring the other person away,you are truly perfect for this country/this part of the world because you wouldn't be accepted in civil society in most parts of the real world if your posts are any indication of the kind of person that you are,so please talk to the hand as far as i'm concerned...over & out...

I guess it must suck that no one is supporting your post exceptional so you come out with all this immature verbal diarrhea. one word for you mate...LOSER!!!

Thank you guys, you made my day.

Xena.. you seem to be a latest victim of Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, so just take a chill pill and sleep well baby.

Hmmmmm.. So.. now you guys are even daydreaming about me ?? Pity for U !! :-D

Am I that dangerous?? Lollllzzzzz...Cool down guys !!

But I agree, it's the best way to hide your deep frustation.

Believe it, XG alone is enough for the bloody thickos like gadarene, Raven, etc.. so no need for any fake IDs..

Appears, if I keep on posting the messages here, gadarene and Raven will start dreaming me in the nights too, ultimately micturating in their nighties.. hehehehehe

I feel, one of you guys would have changed the loyalty.. and joined my bandwagon with this starwar nick.. anticipating your HORRIBLE DEFEAT on 02 December 2010 !!

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BTW, are Raven and gadarene GAYS/LESBOS ??

Raven is promoting gadarene just TOO MUCH.. praying everyone: "PUHLEAZZZZ I BEG U SIR (with folded hands).. TRY TO UNDERSTAND gadarene.. S/HE HAS MADE A F**KAWESOME POINT.. S/HE IS TRYING TO TELL U BLAH BLAH BLAH %^#$!#$%^&*(%^&*( "

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Bitter ..but true...+1 here..

haha well spotted Xena, thats a classic!! Could'nt agree more gadarene!

@ Xena,ROTFL!...no way!...talk about being utterly & completely jobless!...yeah i was wondering where Mr. "starwars" came from myself!...

@ Raven,save it mate,it's the same guy!...what a LOSER!...

@ genesis,that is indeed an insightful post mate,thank you for sharing that with us,yes it's spot on,Qatar is the ONLY country bidding to host the World Cup simply because they have the resources & want the recognition on a global stage...could be called shallow depending on how one looks @ it but i refrain from stating that myself because it might offend Qataris reading it so i won't but again,thank you for sharing that...

A Qatari friend says that Qatar is focusing on two fronts in order to differentiate itself from other Gukf countries - Education and Sport.

This is one reason that it wants to bid for the World Cup.

Xena i've concluded the same. Hw many accounts does this self proclaimed XG person have!!! he's most probably set up another account to support himself. Hilarious.

Raven i'd save my energy rather than respond to XG/Starwars

Starwars please enlighten us that don't agree with the bid why we are bigots? I personally have no probs with Qatar bidding or their culture, but I don't think they'll win or deserve it for points already made. If you are going to come out and label people bigots then have the balls to explain yourself.

thats hilarious.... XceptionalGreat has himself a second username... weird how in 10hours of being a member, Starwars has only posted on one topic... this one...

XG, if you want to be respected on this forum... opening a new user account and agreeing with yourself, isn't the way to go about it;-P

Of course we are bigots just because we don't think Qatar will win.....grow up Starwars, just because you are subserivant and lay down and let qataris walk all over you

Just prepare your protest letter to FIFA if Qatar will win BIGTIME on the 2nd of December!! :-)

IMHO,A lot of bigots here will cry on that day!! :=))

Qatar needs a bigger platform to showcase its might - this it can do through politics and strengthen its role in the international community (eg.mediator for various conflicts - lebanon, Sudan, Palestine, Israel etc). Switzerland of the arab world.

Communication and international affairs - nothing better than to have your own television news broadcaster which is on par with international news channels (AlJazeera).

Sport influence - which is explain the various bids and the one’s to come out - 2020 olympics, 2022 world cup besides the various internationally recognized tournaments currently held for tennis, golf, GP1, motor boat, equestrian fields.

Wouldn’t say it is all listed out in the Qatar’s National Vision 2030 – that is a very general document with no specific plans.

Qatar is a small country which thinks Big. Nothing wrong in that and one of the basis to shift to Qatar. The World Cup is a massive event in the sporting calender – nobody will stop you from bidding for it. Besides the marketing for bids is another way to showcase Qatar to the World.

XceptionalGreat you need to respect everybody's opinion and stop getting personal. Everybody has a right to their opinion and if you feel that you need to address those you should do it tactfully.

The 2022 bid comm would certainly appreciate your support but surely not appreciate your responses to various opinions. At most cases your responses did not drive home the point and you’ve ended insulting the author.

Finally, you’ve plagiarized the Qatar 2022 bid logo as your avatar – that logo would surely have a copyright ;-)

Qatar doesn't need to create more jobs for Qataris because you have to import to fill all the jobs you currently have. I daresay the majority of Qataris see now value in making Qatar a tourist destination. I can't count the number of time I have been told that Qataris DO NOT want to be like Dubai.

So it begs to ask, why IS Qatar bidding on the WC?

In many cases , the World Cup has not led to profits, but is a means of improving the infrastructure and developing the image to a wider world.

This is what happened in South Africa.

Given the size of Qatar and its population, the question arises whether Qatar actually needs to expand its football stadia and supporting infrastructure.

I personaly believe that a joint bid with Dubai would be more beneficial for all.

I just read an insightful post in a popular local internet forum that sums why many Qataris oppose hosting the world cup

“Certainly hosting the world cup has many benefits. otherwise , most of the developed countries would have not compete to host. The problem is most bidding countries sees the tournament as an expedient to superior goals (job creation and reduction of unemployment , boost Tourism and therefore an Overall economic growth). this receives support from the voters and tax payers, and is considered a marginal issue in the agendas of governments. Whereas in Qatar , we are the only country in the world that considers the tournament as a goal in itself that must be facilitated by any means"

@ starwars,you have your opinion & i have mine,that is what a disussion between civilized people ought to be...you however have chosen to get personal,so i will refrain from engaging with you on the grounds that your incapable of debating without personal insults...

@ flor1212,as i've stated before,you seem to have a LOT of free time on hand & simply log on to QL to argue with people on random topics that you choose so again i'm not going to waste my time debating with you...of course the World Cup is a business,please tell me where i said otherwise??? FIFA is of course concerned with the revenue that comes in & in keeping with that would be wary about the World Cup coming here knowing that a LOT of fans would choose NOT to come if Qatar did actually win the bid so you realize you're actually contradicting yourself with the statement you made about "this business"?!?!

@ genesis,i think you want to rephrase that YOU(& others like you) get my point & to you(& those others) i apologize for repeating myself but as is quite clear,some people don't seem to be getting my point,hence the need to repeat myself...

Quote "are there any world class teams in the mid-east? are there are world class players from the mid-east? are there any world renowned football clubs from the mid-east?"

So when football start in Europe, there are already "GREAT" players? "Perfect" players/clubs? Hmmmmmmm. let me think? So when a child is born in Europe, they can already talk, so they can bid for a school, and since in ME, nobody can talk, they cannot bid for the school! Lol! And I really thought that Europe and other part of the world (include to that, FIFA) is an "equal-opportunity" world/entity?

Can anybody post the real and authentic requirements to bid for this "BUSINESS" (not a sporting) event? Lol! Good morning people!

Garadene : "...I'm sorry but you're being slightly delusional about the "few more million who wants it this way" for the simple reason that this game traces it's origins to Europe,that is the home of football..."

Anybody in QL who believes this is 100% Douchebag, Bigot, and Racist!!

Again, every country has a right to bid for W-O-R-L-D cup. European, Asian, African, American countries whether you are a Hindu, Christian, Muslim, etc.

"The Arabic world deserves a World Cup. They have 22 countries and have not had any opportunity to organise the tournament." FIFA Sepp Blatter.

Starswars if you actually took the time to read garadenes posts you will clearly see he is not disrespecting Qatars right to bid, just stating very valid reasons as a football fan as to why he thinks Qatar won't win the bid...you are the only Douchebag here pal as you obvioulsy can't read! Again people are Douchebag's and bigots if they don't support the bid!!

Garadene

here we go again...

gadarene , do you ever get tired from repeating yourself? we get your point...

unless you have something new to add aside from the same reasons you stated in the last dozen threads

Again, you are trying to change the direction of the debate per your convenience.. you must reply to the points made by me in response to your questions..don't pick the points of your interest only and turn a blind eye to the others.

If Football is for Europe and other Western Coutries only and there is no good player or team in the Middle East region (as u stated), then these ME nations should not be allowed to bid at the first place!! Why FIFA is making a mockery of the bid process then??

FIFA has a majority of non-ME offices/members, they should simply declare that:

"No Middle East Nation is allowed to host the World Cup unless they are fully westernized.. as their culture is presently against the culture of the real World, the real human-beings of the world. Since, they don't drink,they don't dance on the roads, they don't allow PDA and revealing outfits, WC fan can't enjoy this great event."

If FIFA is allowing Qatar to bid for this great event, means they do acknowledge that Football is for all.. so you better shut your mouth up on this.. FIFA guys are far more intelligent and experienced than mediocre & narrow-minded fans like you !!

Regarding fanatism/fundamentalism:

It's very simple, if covering someone from head to toe at his or her will is fanatism/fundamentalism to you, then wearing some revealing outfits is "nudity" and "obscenity" to me. Period.

If you feel that there is no logic in what I've said so far, then you should have stopped paying heed to my posts.

Xceptional. He reminds me of so many other expats (many of them born here and having spent all their lives here) who are still pandering to any Qatari that will listen in the hopes that their own lot in life will be improved. It's not going to happen. Qatar is what it is and we expats are hired to do a job for a period of time... no more, no less. We are all expendable and our security is at the whim of our sponsors. I don't blame Qataris. I only wish my own country looked out for the interests of its own )and damn the rest of the world) as much as Qatar does.

The idea that the extremely conservative Muslim world will somehow make a larger WC audience for a "family friendly, Arab cultural WC" is ludicrous. For all the reasons you stated. The OP is a pillock.

Xceptional,i will not waste my time debating with people that don't have a clue what they're rambling on about...yes i am referring to you...hosting a World Cup is IMPOSSIBLE without public support,so your statement "support or no support of the general public..." is completely 100% wrong & if the Govt.,ANY Govt. were to go ahead & host it anyways,it would be a VERY unsuccessful tournament,that much is for sure...

I'm sorry but you're being slightly delusional about the "few more million who wants it this way" for the simple reason that this game traces it's origins to Europe,that is the home of football...the beautiful game came to the mid-east yesterday in comparison...are there any world class teams in the mid-east? are there are world class players from the mid-east? are there any world renowned football clubs from the mid-east?

It's very obvious from your posts/comments that you are fanatical/fundamentalist in your views as only someone like that would label enjoying a few beers "alcoholism"/"street f*&^ing"/"throwing up in the street" being among your favourite terms to address the issue along with "public nudity" when addressing the issue of people dressing for the summer here...

Cricket is NOT the football World Cup,We expats LIVE here,we're NOT here on holiday...which is why this town becomes a ghost town in the summer because people want to get the HELL OUT OF HERE & that is the residents were talking about & you're saying it would be OK for people not even used to this heat???..."it's really difficult in 45 deg. + temp but not unmanageable"???...are you even listening to yourself? why in blazes should i spend my hard earned money as a football fan to come & spend a month in this ridiculous heat??? That's like saying,oh it's VERY hot but you won't die?!?!?! am i coming here on a holiday to enjoy the games the way i like or am i coming here to put up with the extreme heat & closed culture? & am i expected to pay hard-earned money for it??? you must be joking...

btw,the ONLY one screaming(not to mention abusing & personally attacking) here is you,the rest of us are trying to hold a civil debate & i have to say,you've been very civil in your last post,please keep it like that so we can debate this like adults...

You are so very obviously completely against what you consider "decadent western culture" with their "alcoholism" & "public nudity" & general debauchery & you seem to be pushing for this bid more than anything,in the hope that Qatar will win the bid & host a "clean middle eastern" World Cup where men & women will be dressed from head to toe,seated separately in the stands,sipping their fruit juice while the game is on...well all i can say is,dream on mate...in the highly unlikely event they do win this bid,they will bend over backwards to please FIFA,so i don't think you're going to like what you might get to see!

btw,you do know they are investigating Qatar's bid for bribery?...tch tch,so sad,please don't go slit a wrist or something if FIFA disqualifies the bid!...

@ DohaSteve,i can tell you already what the "wise ones" are going to say mate,"Qatar has plenty of financial resources,they can do anything"...well they have the same financial resources right now,makes you wonder what's stopping them from doing it right now eh?!...highest GDP on the planet,gegraphically a peninsula & my agent had to wait in a line OVERNIGHT @ Doha port to get something we ordered!...the gentleman that uses the Qatar bid logo believes he will score brownie points with the locals by his "fierce" support...talk about being delusional!...

@ flor1212,not ONE thing is going to change for expats if Qatar lose this bid mate,their "vision 2020" is not based on the World Cup or the hosting rights for it,they want to make their country world class,hosting the World Cup will be a bonus,nothing else,so don't worry about any repercussions...

or if they can be bought (as I personally believe they can).

Spoken like a true expat who doesn't care at all about the locals and is only out for what he can get:

"Support or no support of the general public does not really matter."

I rather doubt many Qataris would agree with you and you should remember that even monarchies serve at the pleasure of the people. Otherwise, despots don't last very long.

Best of luck :D

and start the real work.

I just wonder if discussion will be this intense if we are in actual and face-to-face debate. Or the virtual id's makes it easier to shout rather than civilly argue.

If Qatar lose the bid, it will just be fine for all of us, back to the current status. If Qatar wins, definitely there will be a lot of difference as it means a lot of works.

I just hope that if Qatar lose, there will be no negative repercussion to the current expatriates workforce and improvement in the culture will continue.

And if you even wonder why there are allegations of improprieties in the bids, why do you think it was called a bidding? Just imagine the benefit (or whatever you may call it) a host country will have by having the event. If you ever think that WC is a SPORTING event, you must be not living in reality. WC is BUSINESS! As it seems that everything in this world is now!

Meanwhile, the video from the recent Leaders in Football conference that shows Qatari Mohammed Bin Hammam, president of the Asian Football Confederation, effectively admitting to trading votes will be viewed as part of the FIFA ethics committee probe into alleged vote swapping between Qatar and Spain.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1322958/CHARLES-SALE-Qataris-set-splash-3m-World-Cup-2022-vote-blockbuster.html#ixzz13B85HBEx

Is it only me or the idea of spending around 18 Million QR on film presentation of 2022 World cup bid is way exaggerated!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1322958/CHARLES-SALE-Qataris-set-splash-3m-World-Cup-2022-vote-blockbuster.html

the astonishing budget of £2.9m means Qatar's World Cup productions will include 3D and CGI and compares with the low six-figure sum England 2018 will spend on their film for the meeting in Zurich.

London production company New Moon, who were responsible for the Sport at Heart film that helped win the Olympic vote for London 2012, have been working for Qatar during their 2022 campaign and are involved in the tender.

I'm going to have a wee ramble here, addressing some of the comments that I have read in this heated debate.

This world cup bid of Qatar's is actually being taken seriously by some people here - that's the biggest surprise to me.

I've been here 8 years now, and being in the freight and logistics business, I have first hand experience of the infrastructure challenges faced by many businesses, venues and events in Qatar.

Doha commercial port (the sea port) is collapsing under the strain of the cargo being landed here now, and it took 2 years to recover from the cargo needed for the Asian Games.

Doha Airport had over a kilometre (yes, 1000 metres) of cargo lying out on the apron for a year (6 months before and 6 months after the Asian Games).

They've been in the "final stages of planning" the new sea port since the day I got here.

NDIA is as much of shambles as all of the other infrastructure projects.

Ashgal (the Public Works Authority), collectively speaking, couldn't get a shag in a brothel as the management are all Qataris who unfortunately while they have ambition, are sadly lacking in ability (not their fault, they are put into positions that they don't have the skills for).

Qatar-Bahrain causeway is delayed by 2 years before the latest set of (revised) plans even hit the engineering desks of the bidding companies.

You can't walk anywhere in June - football fans like to walk.

Qatar doesn't welcome anyone with open arms. Qatar tolerates foreign workers on it's soil because Qataris have neither the will nor the ability to take on the jobs that we foreign workers will handle for a fee - a simple business arrangement as so aptly described in earlier posts.

For the gentleman who uses the Qatar bid 2022 logo as his avatar here, don't think for one minute that you are, or ever will be, a permanent fixture in Qatar. As soon as your usefulness is over, or you step out of line in any way whatsoever, you backside will be on the next plane back to wherever you came from.

No last seranade, no sweet goodbyes; just pack your bags and get out. Which is their right, as it is their country and not ours.

Qatar has many logistical problems still to overcome just to make it a liveable place now, never mind coping with something as enormous as a World Cup.

At the end of the day, when all is said and done, there are still workers sleeping 20 to a room and sharing one broken toilet between 60 in the industrial area, there are still housemaids being raped, beaten and abused on a daily basis, and there is still one law for Qataris and a completely different set of rules for the rest of us.

And is FIFA allows a World Cup to be held in a country with that kind of Human Rights record, then shame on them.

Your questions and their replies:

1)Is local society ready to accept all that hosting this tournament entails?

Hosting or not hosting the WC is the decision of sports associations backed by the respective governments. Support or no support of the general public does not really matter. You have a recent example of CWG in India.

Despite allegetions of high level corruptions, delays,public outrage, etc, it was one of the most successful CWG in the history.

WC is an international event and the Qatar govt has put so much at stake while declaring to participate as the bidding nation.

If Qatar govt would go by public opinion, there will be no liquor licenses, no pubs, no nudity, and so many other things would be banned. Hope you get it now.

2)Why does the tournament have to change ANYTHING,especially when it involves restrictions on hard-earned money paying fans who would expect the freedom they have /-a-t-/ ANY other World Cup,no more & no less,would you not say that is fair?

If there are millions of football fans who wants the World Cup that way, then there are also a few more millions who wants it this way.

Both of these parties have every right to support their culture. Since 1930, it was never held anywhere except in the nations with 'liberal' societies and cold climate. That's why people have started thinking that only these nations have the right to organize such events and drinking, nudity, etc are interwoven with WC, though it's just a lame argument.

Let it happen in Qatar for the first time and then on the basis of merits & demerits, FIFA can take decision if it would EVER award hosting rights to any such country.

3) The stadia will be air-conditioned,what about the rest of the city/country???...would you pay hard-earned money to take a "holiday" in a restricted,conservative country when the mercury is averaging 45 degrees plus??

Now, you are talking against nature.

Your perception reminds me of the theory of olden times that only the whites are the beautiful, rest everyone is ugly.

Sorry but no one would buy this theory anymore.

White, brown, black.. all the races are from God.. similarly, cold climate, hot climate.. are the gifts of the nature.

If the sports event would be held keeping all these in mind, then Australia/England/NZ would never play cricket in India/Pak/SL and the Middle East countries should never go to play in Australia..Russia, etc.

You and millions of expatriates are staying in Qatar and other Middle East nations for many years in the same 45+ temperature.. how do they manage ??

All I mean to say is, its really difficult in 45+ temperature but not totally 'unmanageable'. Let the fans enjoy an entirely different climate, hospitality and of course the culture !!

Afterall, Football World Cup belongs to the World, and Middle East is an integral part of the World.

You can't just scream.. "Stay away.. you are too hot !!"

Keeping in view its pace, one can hope that there will be a big positive difference in Qatar of 2022 and of 2010.

"this is a WORLD CUP not a Muslim WC"..

Ain't you trying to give it a color of religion?

I guess the intellectual shout of this 'immature uneducated moron' is good enuff to get you pee in your paints :P

Get ready for a big time bash on 02 December !!

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I read that from Doha Stadium magazine (latest issue).

Jack please provide a link implying that England and USA are complicit in attempting to trade blocks of votes.

Spain bid in 18 and Qatar bid in 22

is the same as

England bid in 18 and USA bid in 22

let both of them be investigated and not just Qatar and Spain.

To be honest the only REAL chance the bid has of success is by underhand and fraudulent means - as Pilgrim says above, in comparative terms the bid is at best a long shot and getting into bed with the S/P bid and using the 18/22 bid format to trade blocks of votes really represented the only hope both bids had of success - Spain because of the strength of the UK and Russian bids and Qatar because of the "logistical problems" highlighted at the end of the FIFA visit.

As we say in the UK,the Qatar bid is now a "farting duck".....

Well I can't say I'm surprised to hear Qatar's suspected.

This issue concerning the Spain bid in 18 and Qatar bid in 22 is now rathering quite some momentum - if these allegations are founded, then it will be a cold day in hell before these two countries will be allowed to bid for any further international event - of any kind - in the world of sport. Qatar and Spain will also lose an awful lot of face in the eyes of the global community.

Wait for the "conspiracy' threads from the die hards!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/8076958/Spains-2018-World-Cup-bid-on-shaky-ground-as-Fifa-investigate-allegations-of-block-voting.html

Hmm,the MODS seem to have deleted your post Xceptional,must've been something to do with the fact that you personally attacked & insulted someone,they seem to have removed my reply to it as well,can't see why though,because i definitely didn't reply in the same vein,must've been something to do with the religion bit,i was just being sarcastic though...anyways...

All i can say from YOUR posts are that you left your hometown in India for the first time to get on a flight here(or elsewhere in the mid-east) & that pretty much sums up your exposure to the world,you have not travelled(i mean REALLY travelled,NOT the cheap package tour deal),lived in or experienced life ANYWHERE else & the reason i say this is because your ONLY association with alcohol is that people who consume it are alcoholics/drug addicts,there would be no other reason for you to bring up the "millions of Muslims are addicted..." fact ,well millions of non-muslims are addicted to drugs & alcohol as well & a LARGE % of them wouldn't be coming to Qatar in 2022 if they were to win the bid,so i don't see your point because you seem to be constantly confusing alcoholism,drug addiction, "street F#&^ing" & "rowdyism" with REAL FOOTBALL FANS,regular hard working people around the planet,who would save up & come to the World Cup as a holiday or treat to themselves & part of that holiday includes having a few cold ones & enjoying the game,everytime i point this out to,your only response seems to be to lash out on a personal attack after claiming that the World Cup is no excuse for "brothels","street f#%^ing","rowdyism" & all the other terminology you use...well kindly tell me where i said it was???...That is YOUR assumption & ONLY someone who has NEVER seen,let alone experienced moderate alcohol consumption & people enjoying themselves without bothering the general public around them, would make,one that is like all your other assumptions,WRONG...is local society READY to see people like that,say a young couple dressed for the 40 degree heat in shorts & tees,enjoying a beer,holding hands & walking in the street? It's a very simple question...these people are NOT going to be fornicating on a public street,they are NOT going to be throwing up,they are NOT going to be vandalizing the shops,they are NOT going to be terrorizing people around,so i don't see why that even needs to be brought up???...You are implicating a whole cross-section of fans based on the actions of a FEW undesirables,how does that make ANY sense at all? I have & continue to ask you a valid question & it continues to remain one that you have no answer for...We're talking about beiong fair here,so to be fair,the World Cup,if held here,should be like a World Cup has been,everywhere else in the history of this tournament,no more & no less...NOTHING should be expected to change IRRESPECTIVE of which nation is hosting it,so why the special treatment for Qatar as you are obviously implying?...no one is asking for anything that is not considered normal @ any other World Cup,are they?...

The issue has NOTHING to do with Islam or an Islamic nation...India has WAY more Muslims than this whole part of the world put together,yet if the World Cup were to be ever held in India,are you telling me there would be alcohol & dress restrictions???...are you telling me UB Group's Kingfisher beer sponsored stands wouldn't be all over the place? are you telling me European fans wouldn't be walking around in what is considered "inappropriate" clothing in this country?...the answer to all the above is an emphatic NO because @ the end of the day my friend,it's ALL about the money,so no,there would NOT be this kind of public reaction if the World Cup were to be held in India EXCEPT from a small section of the fundamentalist fringe of ALL religions,may i add,before you go accusing me of "generalizing" Muslims,so please answer my two relevant questions:-

1)Is local society ready to acdept all that hosting this tournament entails?

2)Why does the tournament have to change ANYTHING,especially when it involves restrictions on hard-earned money paying fans who would expect the freedom they have @ ANY other World Cup,no more & no less,would you not say that is fair?

3) The stadia will be air-conditioned,what about the rest of the city/country???...would you pay hard-earned money to take a "holiday" in a restricted,conservative country when the mercury is averaging 45 degrees plus???

And finally,just because in your little world,everyone is on their employers terms & condtions,please don't include the rest of us...we're here for the money,plain & simple,it makes up for the rest,it's the price to pay,one we knew BEFORE coming here so the choice was in fact ours to make,contrary to what you would like to believe...

FYI,my father,by the grace of God is a UK educated senior business consultant with a large company so no,i don't by the grace of God,need to support my parents,but thank you for your concern...& finally i am NOT your "baby" & my wife already thinks i'm unnecessarily homophobic!... so easy there cowboy,please refrain from addressing me like that in the future,i don't swing that way ok?!...now answer questions 1,2 & 3,don't lash out again with a personal attack,don't deviate from the topic,JUST answer the questions...please & thank you...

I just came back from the Netherlands and Belgium which are also bidding for 2022 and I seriously don't know how Qatar can even begin to imagine that they are in the same ball park as those countries. The infrastructure, the entertainment, the fans, all of those things are in place and far better then Qatar can hope to ever build. Hundreds of thousands of people crammed into Amsterdam in Orange to simply welcome the world cup team home! There was a game against Holland and Sweden while I was in Amsterdam and you couldn't move on the street for Orange and Blue wearing fans (and I was nowhere near the stadium).

Qatar really has nothing to bring to the table ... well unless you consider that the 2018 bid is being investigated for bribery...if Qatar gets 2022 it will be absolute proof that FIFA delegates can be bought.

Xceptionalidiot,

Where did I mention anything about the size (maybe your brain's size is the problem!)

Its nothing about the size. Besides many other already addressed factors, it’s also about the lack of soul and spirit appropriate for a "sinful" (aka fun) event like the World Cup.

You can choose to be hypocrite and you can choose to conveniently close your eyes, but do you (if you have a tiny idea) actually believe that the World Cup's spirit fits into a conservative society like the one in Qatar.

Qatari’s ultraconservative culture and mentality is just not compatible with the World Cup’s sprit.

Anyone who says the contrary is simply on denial.

You should be sued by misusing the Bid logo, as since you appeared in this site with that logo, you did nothing more than motivating people to be against it as you represent the kind of idiot that World Cup fans want them to be miles away from the World Cup party atmosphere!

So go on and continue to be rude and misrepresent and damage the Qatari Bid.

And go on and continue to promote something that the majority of the people of Qatar are themselves against! To use you submissive mentality: you should respect the will of the people who feed you!

What do you have to say about the 2006 Asian Games? Were you here to personally witness the dullness and chaos?

Don't boder to reply as no one here gives you any credit and I'm done with you.

Come back on the 2nd Dec so we can all have a great laugh at your idiocy.

Exceptional you are delusional and thats been kind. Nowhere in any of my posts have I raised religion as an issue....again you can't handle the fact that people don't agree with you so you go on the attack personally, proves what an immature uneducated moron you are (theres my personal attack)...grow up man and face facts, we can all have our opinion, most people here are not bashing Qatar just stating some valid reasons why they believe Qatar won't win, get over it!!

I respect others views as long as they respect mine !!

Since beginning these guys are bulls**ting about Qatar.. its culture or WC bid..

My only point is, you support US, Australia, Japan.. any country of your choice.. but why always you butt-in whenever someone tries to say something positive about Qatar's bid?? Are you that afraid and jealous of Qatar?

Show me a single thread here where any guy would have ever talked that bad about US, Australia or other nations bids?? Are those countries heaven on earth ??

These morons are earning here..of course feeding their families.. and almost everyday..there is a thread of Qatar bashing.. what would u say about it?? If Qatar is that bad.. what the hell are you doing here as an expatriate ??

Greatest stupidity is to just say.. "it's a business..I am selling my time here and they are buying"... In fact, you are selling it at their terms & conditions.. isn't it ?? As u have got no other option seemingly.

"But.. then who will feed your poor family.. oh sorry.. u can never do that !! ch ch ch :-("

was in response to gadarene's:

"And please stop the sucking up,your subservience is making some us sick,the only thing left for you to do is to lie flat & ask them to walk over you.."

I am really sorry if u did not like whatever I said.. but going thru' you posts, no sane and intelligent person can deny my assumptions about U.

Now, it can be noticed who is trying to distract this debate (or whatever)...

Millions of muslims (yes millions !) in the world are addicted to drugs..alcohol, etc etc..including many of my friends.. it does not mean they are not human-beings. But, they were never allowed to behave like a rowdy in the recently concluded CWG in Delhi. Every country has got some set culture which the local society always tries to protect and they have every right to do that.

No one has ever said here that since Qatar is an Islamic nation, we should not allow alcohol. It's about culture only.

India is not a muslim country but I am 100% sure, if the WC will be organized in India someday, there will be same reaction from the majority of the population.

Every other day, there are news of attacks on liquor shops by locals in India, albeit govt provide them license to sell it legally.

Bringing in Taliban..Islam..Kafir..Stoning..etc into this conversation.. actually shows you immaturity, intolerance and juvenility ( ha ha ha ha ).. so U first grow up than talk about anything baby !!

It's not me.. but you guys are suffering from a kinda inferiority complex.. "our race is superior than theirs".."how could a tiny nation can host such a big event" ?? "No Way" !!

C'mon wake up dude.. its over n out for u now ..

I know whats my value in this country..I m quite happy for that.. but I feel pity for you.. you have to compromise on each & everything here.. but still you are here ?? So who's the real looser ??

I have seen many of you praying the employers here for jobs.

So, need not to show that u are smarter than others.. or u r from mars.

Your are dragging the religion into WC.. so should we conclude that the bid of Qatar is being opposed by you guys 'coz you are scared of Qatar.. as its the only Islamic nation so far in the history of WC which has got the capability of hosting such a mega event and compelled the world to give a serious thought to its bid ??

To million of guys in the world, it does not really matter if the WC is organized in Vatican or Makkah, but they just want to enjoy the very spirit of Football..which has nothing to do with rowdyism.. alcohol, etc.

You guys just want to anyhow prove that the one who supports to respect the local culture is a moron and "WE BELONG TO A BETTER CULTURE THEN YOURS" !!

About personal attacks.. you guys have first started bulling.. so u had to face the music.. read above your post,"just beacuse you are subservient..." isn't it a direct personal attack ??

Lot of spamming going on today - still, it beats having to read ExceptionalG moronic ranting......

FIFA announced it had widened its investigation to include the potential suspension of one or more bidding nations involved in the race to host the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. Believed to be under pressure are the Spain-Portugal bid and the Qatar bid.

Oh dear, how embarrassing would THAT be!!!!!

It's a COMBINED Spain-Portugal bid

FIFA announced it had widened its investigation to include the potential suspension of one or more bidding nations involved in the race to host the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. Believed to be under pressure are the Spain-Portugal bid and the Qatar bid.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/oceania-official-vows-to-clear-his-name-of-fifa-bribery-claims-20101020-16uak.html

XceptionalGreat, personal attacks not required. Everyone can have their own opinions. Let them have their opinion.

Qatar can do it.

The question you should put to the Aussies is

Does Football Australia have the support of other Australian Sports bodies? If they don't, what is the point of allowing them to host the World Cup when the major stadiums are not available for the worldcup.

I am offended by your comments eventhough you have said this to someone else

"But.. then who will feed your poor family.. oh sorry.. u can never do that !! ch ch ch :-("

If people have come so far (I mean Qatar), they can any day feed their families anywhere in world, be it by working as a daily wage labourer or with what ever skill set they have.

Xceptionalgreat,i suggest you come back to this debate when you've grown up,i don't debate with juveniles...my post obviously hit home,ESPECIALLY the bit about your rear end kissing!...which is why your reaction is so vitriolic...so let me clarify this,YOU are the one without an option,because it's obvious you're not very good at whatever it is you do to make a living so you wouldn't stand a chance back home,your only hope(like so many others here) is to kiss back sides as much as possible & stick around here & hope that the sucking up makes up for your complete lack of real skills,all of this is VERY obvious from your posts...I have options mate,YOU don't,I am clear about why i'm here,tax-free money,YOU on the other hand,have no choice...you don't stand a chance in the competitive job market back home,of that i'm 100% sure...So your ONLY option as part of your sucking up routine,which you have perfected may i add,is to vehemantly defend a non-issue...only a juvenile,immature person with no real exposure to the real world would say nonsensical things like "world cup is not for street f***ing & drunk dancing" & "let's convert this world into a brothel"??? i mean seriously dude,i hear the Taliban is recruiting,you should apply,they'd "accept you with open arms" to quote your terminology!...in the meantime,since you have chosen to get nasty & personal,having no other option since you lack the ability to engage in a proper, mature debate as is very obvious from your posts...i stand down...i am a "kafir/infidel" who indulges in alcohol & debauchery & deserve to die...preferably by stoning or have my head chopped off, i'm not worthy enough to have a discussion with you...there you go,happy?...

As much as it hurts some feelings, I must report here facts about the Asian Games 2006.

The Doha Asian Games 2006 were not successful, regardless what the local propaganda likes to say. I was here and this is what I witnessed:

- Unfinished accesses, venues;

- No Food & Beverage, cafes or restaurants in the venues (upon complaining about the fact that there was no food or beverage, I was giving tickets to go and eat where the volunteers ate); /

- The volunteers had no clue how to give information about the route to go to different venues.

- Most of the activities had very few attendants. Competitions were carefully filmed, making sure that the empty seats were not caught on camera and the little audience appeared like a huge crowd.

- Traffic was horrendous and roads with no indications.

- The parking area around the Tennis Courts was a swamp covered with mud;

- The green carpet around the Olympic village, which covered the unfinished areas, replacing grass, got covered with mud, making the whole access from Villagio, a risky dirty adventure;

One Japanese journalist interviewed me and he agreed about how dull and unprepared Doha was for the games, in spite of contradictory constant reports on the local radios, press and TV.

Overall, there was mess, confusion and the atmosphere was dull and no fun at all.

Is this what they call successful Asian Games?

As for the World Cup 2022, and as it was said here, Qatar stands close to ZERO chances. The bid is all about propaganda.

I wish they listen to Gadarene, Raven and others, and wouldn’t waste all this money in vain and instead donated to some poor people in real need!

As for Xceptional, besides being a severe case of brown nose with no personality, suffering from some identity disorder with a severe need to blindly please who he things is "feeding" him; supporting a cause for a country where he is valued as nothing, a cause that it is not even supported by the majority of this country's natives, he has demonstrated on his own words above (Wed, 20/10/2010 - 12:59am) how low his caliber is as a human being. Xceptional is the one who will be embarrassed on the 2nd Dec and will have to disappear from QL or change his ID.

Totally agree with gadarene, if Qatar won it would be the most boring WC just like the Asian Games was the most boring and LEAST attended....Exceptional you are totally naive if you think alcohol doesn't play a big part in fans enjoying themselves, this is a WORLD CUP not a Muslim WC therefore the majority of fans will want to have a few drinks before and after games. Yes we have been told there will be fan zones but they haven't told us how many, how big these zones will be etc etc,,,if you had ever attended a WC then you would know alcohol plays a big part in fans enjoyment....but of course you are not intelligent enough to engage in intelligent debate and revert to personal attacks on everyone who doesn't agree with your views....

Boring World Cup?? Are you nuts ?? World Cup is for Football.. not for street-f**king..and drunk dancing..

Going by your theory, the most entertaining place in the world is a brothel.. so lets convert this world into a brothel.. then you and your family can enjoy more.. right ??

You have got some personal problem mate.. you are harping on about 5 years old event.... tell me what was Dubai 5 years back.. what was Delhi just 6 months back ??

What was South Africa 2-3 years back??

You are the real morons .. and a real burden on any country you live.. loosers...who just want to talk negative.. blacksheeps.. if you have got the courage.. go to your office tomorrow morning and say whatever u r barking out here... u will get a "hard" one (this time 'kick' only ;-).. on your a*s...

But.. then who will feed your poor family.. oh sorry.. u can never do that !! ch ch ch :-(

U will keep on talking crap here only !!

NOT the 2022 bid.

snowyowl tried searching for that, couldn't find anything about Australia pulling out of the bid though they didn't go to a Qatar sponsored meeting.

Got any link for that?

Choirboy..I am not being a prick, although I admit to finding them useful. Don't blame me that aust decided to pull out after a deal with Qatar! And you have to admit, soccer isn't that big back home, however wheat trade is.

I have said this all along,IF Qatar wins the bid,2022 will be THE MOST BORING World Cup tournament in the HISTORY of the tournament,XceptionalGreat my dear "Qatar has embraced you" friend,hope you're reading this...Yes,by some miracle they will build all the infrastructure because money can buy that but what about the spirit of the tournament???...

Why is it that no one mentions the fact that the Doha Asian games was the LEAST ATTENDED tournament in the HISTORY of the Asian games??? what is your answer to that? Yes,on the face of it,Qatar hosted a "grand Asian games" BUT in EMPTY or near empty stadiums,do you call that a success??? if so,please enlighten us by which definition are the LEAST attended games in a tournament's history considered a success???...the very same thing is going to happen to the World Cup IF they win this bid...Football is the common man's game & this country doesn't care & is not interested in the "common man",they'd have a country full of high flying millionaires if they could...THAT is why they don't deserve to host this tournament...

And please stop the sucking up,your subservience is making some us sick,the only thing left for you to do is to lie flat & ask them to walk over you...if you haven't already that is...

XceptionalGreat whats this crap you write about Qatar "Qatar has embraced you with open arms"...a Qatar firm has employed me for my services which in return I provide for a fee, a simple business transaction...nowhere has Qatar embraced me or made me feel welcome as an expat, just beacuse you are subserivant and believe everything Qatar says, some of us can actually think for ourselves. Nothing gets completed on time so frankly I dont trust Qatar in getting its projects completed on time, but alas its irrelavant as in 40 odd days time Aussie will win the bid...

Considering 12 years time, building a world class infrastructure is not a big deal for the nations of Qatar's calibre.

2-3 years delays in mega projects are quite common in GCC.. and for your kind information.. all these projects are being "managed" by so-called top-consultants of the world like BECHTEL..TURNERS, etc.. so they are to be blamed for delays..and there is no liquidity problem with Qatar unlike Dubai !!

ok, sorry flan..i thought you were being sarcastic there...guess its that time to hit the bed for me..g nite.

i thought india did a great job hosting the commonwealth games.

didn't watch anything though.

C'mon guys.. Qatar has embraced you with open arms..

If you are not suporting Qatar's bid due to some personal reasons..thats OK.

But.. ATLEAST you could be neutral !!

Believe me, Qatar will never harm you if it wins the bid but will surely become a much better place to live in !!

and austalians are always the good mannered guests whereever they go.

india could host a better world cup than qatar.

Trust me I'm not the least bit jealous. And I'm really perfectly calm.

NDIA getting completed in 2-3 years??

Hmmm interesting, official opening date is July 2011, no way is that going to be met.

Budget hotels?? Which ones.. I have heard about a number of 5 stars being planned.

Qatar Rail project has just started in Lusail, Not even .01 % of the work has been done yet.. Lusail itself is supposed to be complete by 2018, no way that is going to happen judging by their current pace.

Bahrain Causeway is in limbo, was supposed to be up and running by 2015 but nothing has been decided on that yet and with construction still far away in future, I don't see them meeting 2015 deadline for that as well.

Again all these are promises, nothing in place.

i read in some newspaper at carrefour that the votes for the world cup hosting are being bought with $$$s.

If some of your friends belong to construction industry, ask them how many budget hotels are coming up in Qatar within the coming 4-5 years..

Qatar Rail project is underway..one of the biggest transport projects in the region..scheduled to be completed upto 2020..NDIA is getting ready within 2-3 years..

Bahrain Causeway is on anvil..various road & rail links to other GCC countries are on feasibility stage.

Tens of mega cities and mega malls are coming up.

So, no worries about infrastructure !!

*Adey.. you calm down mate.. dont be jealous on this tiny nation's unprecedented growth..which is giving a hardtime to Australias..Englands and Americas of the world.. No more monopoly on big sport events.. Football belongs to all.. !!

Qatar's only serious competitor for 2022 is Australia but it has also got some limitations and internal problems.

So.. it's just a matter of time.. 45 days more and the World will see Qatar's triumph over Australia.. as the other bidding nations are not even in the race !!

I don't think you will last 45 days - you will bust a blood vessel before then if you don't calm down.

Just imagine if they get the bid - when it's announced live Xceptional's eyes will cross and he'll spontainiously jizz in his pants! .......then drop down dead of a heart attack! :P

Only joking my old son.

:)

Ok Real issues

stadiums - 1

Hotels- Not enough, the ones that are there are too expensive for average Football fans

Transport- No public transport

Any other issue you want to bring up?

The world cup may be taking place 12 years from now but FIFA has to decide NOW, there is nothing in place except promises, too risky and too many unknowns..

Qatar is just not ready yet

45 days to go and all these JACKASSES who are opposing Qatar's bid citing non-issues related to individual's life-style like alchohol, sex, etc.. will definitely run away from QL or will change their QL ids for sure !!

These boofheads are intentionally ignoring the real issues like infrastructure including stadia, hotels, transport, etc.. 'coz they know Qatar can very easily build a world class infrastructure within 10-12 years !!

Buck up Qatar !!

Snowyowl, stop being a prick!!

Choirboy hate to break it to ya but the Aussies have pulled out of the bid due to an agreement with the wheat board. Go ol awb does it again! And it was a deal brokered with a country bidding

jack....stop being an ass xD

Can someone please explain me the following accusation against Australia Team.

"It is alleged that the Football Federation of Australia (FFA) gave jewellery to the wives of FIFA executive committee members.

Further claims allege that Australia paid for the Trinidad and Tobago Under-20 team to fly to Cyprus.

The wife of FIFA vice-president, Jack Warner, is alleged to have received a Pearl necklace worth A$2,000 after the World Cup bidding process started (Getty)

Australian Football Federation (FFA) had given out A$50,000 worth of the jewellery to FIFA Ex-co members and their wives in 2008"

Also "World class Stadiums - In place" Yes, but not for football, That World class Stadiums - are for domestic season.

Qatar can do it.

@ Qhris,your friends are right mate...of course it is to gain publicity...& you forget,in today's world,MONEY TALKS,simple as that mate...the world outside doesn't know the extent of human rights abuse in this country because they never see it...

France.

Italy.

Switzerland....

All these places have serious issues with Muslims right now. With face covering. With Minarets.

Isn't the Middle East selling its soul by accepting these countries in?

Many of my friends think this is just to gain publicity to the country, not to actually win the bid.

Thing is, with the country the way it is, can it withstand the glare of the spotlight? With human rights issues? Etc etc...

As predicted, tonight's crowd at the Khalifa stadium all came in the same taxi....live on Al Jazeera - how very embarrassing!!

Well my two cents...everyone goes on about how "spectacular" an Asian games Qatar hosted...what they conveniently leave out is that the Doha Asian games was also the LEAST attended games in the history of the Asian games...

So similarly,if the folks @ FIFA have been stupid enough to buy the crap they've been fed by the bid committee so much that they overlook the basic issues of the 40 plus degree cent. heat & the ultra-conservative nature & mindset of the country,it is going to be in all likelihood,the least attended FIFA World Cup in the game's history...not to mention,THE MOST BORING World Cup EVER...

Give me one, just one selection criteria in which the Qatar bid is superior to the Australian bid - just one!! tell u what, I'll help you with some of the selection criteria that the FIFA delegation look at;-

This is what Australia bring to the party -

Infrastructure - In place

World class Stadiums - In place

Transport links - In place

Climate - In place

Accomodation requirement (hotel beds) - In place

Culture - In place

Desire - Qatar cant even outbid Australia in the REAL desire amongst the rank and file nationals to actually win this event!!

Short of the couple of thousand die hard fans who weekly go and watch their teams in the Super league or whatever it is called, I really doubt whether there is ANY momentum outside of the inner tabernacle in Qatar to actually WANT this event - I imagine that to the average Qatari, the idea of in excess of 100,000 football fans decending on their little country fills them with utter dread!! The bidding is a good political tool to indicate to a watching world the the little arab state is endeavouring to punch above its weight and wants to be taken seriously - fair enough!! But lets not pretend that this is anything other than pie in the sky - Ive said it before and I will say it again - if the selection for the WC was run along the same lines as the Olympics, the Qatar bid would fall embarrassingly at the first hurdle. BTW if you think I am wrong on the soccer popularity in this country, check out the attendance tonight when the national team takes on Iraq!!!!

To offer balance I will say this - the event is 10 years away - maybe just maybe FIFA will look over the horizon and get ambitious.......leave you with that thought!

The Fight is not against Heat... The fight is not even against the outfit that fans are gonna wear or the alcoholic drinks that are allowed in certains place and not allowed... The Fight is against a 1000 years of opressed and suppressed mentalities in this country that seemingly we are being convinced that can be turned OFF by a switch...

As much I personally hope and wish that Qatar gets the bid... I'm still skeptic enough to fear that it is all wishful thinking my friends...

For effort's sake itself though I do say: Good Luck Qatar!

Sheikh Al Thani - is very convincing - certainly has natural charm.

Good Luck but I still have reservations about it.

Well, if Qatar gets it, it will, obviously, not be like games in other countries. That should be clear by now.

So, all those questions asked before are pretty much moot.

eliashamzo get over yourself mate! Expats are here to earn money because their services are in demand and they get paid more than at home...a simple business arrangement...just because you are subserivant adn do whatever they want doesn't mean the rest of us can't think for ourselves...if you belive Qatar will do all theay SAY they will then your a dreamer....

They cant deal with a small aquar park...How can they handle all world crowd wearing smallest outfits...

All The Luck For QATAR .

They do really deserve it , and no one is going to do what qatar will do .

And for all those people whos making fun of the native people or the chances of qatar , all i can say to you shame on you people , living on their land and making a profit from their resources and they are the reason behind getting ur money and providing u the life standards u have now, so show respect greedy people .

GOOOOOOOOOOOO QATAR ....

I agree with previous - Mr Al Thani was very impressive and clealry ultra committed (he should be - he is leading the bid!!) - however, one swallow does not a summer make ............ REWIND

i think first the natives should have communication skills...they lack it ..A LOT!!..lol, especially at the airports! reminds me of someone asking for a burger at burger king...." One Boorjer!"

The interview was great, I thought he projected how determined and committed Qatar is to hosting the tournament. Good luck Qatar!

Can they Tackle the Cake issue ?????

Who said there was a problem??

if it's dead, it's dead. So what's the problem?

Its like the Head of the FIFA delegation said on leaving Qatar at the end of the 4 day assessmsnt "A competition in Qatar presents a number of logistical problems...." In other words, dead in the water!!!

Here are my questions Your Highness,

1) The stadia will be airconditioned...what about the rest of Qatar?...fans aren't to be expected to go from hotel to stadium & back to hotel alone are they?...The World Cup is a month long party ALL OVER the host country...or at least it should be...& it will be 45 degree plus in the rest of Qatar @ that time of year,what's the solution to that?...

2) And what's the deal with this "fan zone" business for alcohol?

a) can i buy my chilled pint only in a fan zone? If so,how many of these fan zones will be spread out around Qatar?

b) Am i only allowed to drink my pint in the fan zone?...if yes,am i expected to leave the game,go buy a pint,gulp it down & come running back to catch the game?

3) My European friends interested in coming to the tournament are only packing t-shirts & shorts & that's BOTH male & female friends...it's going to be WAY TOO hot for them to wear anything else...will they be arrested for public indecency?...will they letched at,commented on & groped at by the thousands of desperate single(& sometimes not single!) men in this country?...

@ britexpat...a LOT still remains unanswered mate! :)...

ok GOODLUCK!

Go Qatar!!!

You know, the more I read about the Qatar bid and the more support I see the bid getting, the more I am convinced that Qatar have a really good chance of getting the nod in December!!

Only contributors who genuinelly understand and engage with irony need reply.......

I think you will be allowed to drink

All the best for my organization of the tournament in Qatar

That's only for Athletes in India :O)

Footballers and football supporters just like to drink and go with hookers..

What about the condoms supply?

Can Tackle the Alcohol issue ?????