Some People here are really bad.. :(
Just want to share this very unfortunate incident that happened this morning to one of our fellow Qler celia_j (with her permission to put her name)...
Accordingly, this morning around 10 A.M., my friend was about to go to their supplier (her being for the sales) along with her fellow installer, but their company driver decided to stop by one newspaper stand along Bin Mahmoud to buy a paper. While they are at stop, a toyota white camry stop beside them and a man wearing a thobe knock the back side window where celia was seated asking her to go out of the car and ride with him....
Surprisingly, celia ask "why"..but the man shout at her and demanded from her to get out of the car and transfer to her car (in arabic), he even claim that he is a police!..her companions feared the man and ask celia to go to his car...she went, but ask her installer colleague to come with them, the colleague seated in front while celia sat at the back..which made the guy more furious and kept on shouting at them in arabic.. driving around mannai r/a..all that time she was trying to explain to this man that she was about to go to work and asking what he needs...
seeing that they were driving near her office, she pleaded to drop them there and explained that he can verify with their office everything...that time, my friend was already crying and afraid with all the shouting that this man is giving while driving... when he stopped the car infront of their office, she immediately run out of the car but before she could do that, this azz guy hold her knees and smirk!
inside the office, the guy followed her there and was met by her arabic sponsor..the two of them talked and shouted..the guy claimed that he saw her with a guy at the back of the car (which celia denied and clarified with her employer)....
related topic:
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/399981
"I do live by the motto that pessimists are usually right, but all the great change in history was done by optimists" -Thomas Friedman
trust me its not only the Filipinos that are targeted. No woman can smile at other motorists without getting followed. I'm having a really tough time with that because I ALWAYS smile at other folks...but in Qatar, that almost always ends up with someone following me in their car. Best trick to end that is drive to the closest police station and go inside...they always disappear.
Celia...or anyone else for that matter...if that ever happens to you...ask for his badge number, call 999 and ask if this person is an officer...and if so, tell him that you will FOLLOW him to the police station in YOUR car, and deal with the officials there...NOT in his car.
Just because the guy was wearing a thobe doesn't automatically make him a Qatari...but his actions DO make him a pervert.
Owen..thanks for posting this and making us aware of the situations out there....maybe you saved someone's life by doing this...
Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.
arecel-- atleast will scare them away! lol! =P
“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.”
pep, lol...that will scare them i guarantee..:)
arecel -- maybe next time once we see a stranger dont smile instead try to laugh and cry (at the same time)... lol! =D
“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.”
UkEng, how true. but what confuses me is why only filipinas are targetted. i mean, c'mon don't tell me females of other nationalities are covered, non-smiling, holy ones. :)
The reason why more Asian women are targetted is twofold (1) as a group, they tend to be classified with those who are prostitutes (I'm not saying that only Asian women are prostitutes - goodness, in my country they'd be the exception in that "profession"). In this part of the world there are many Asian prostitutes unfortunately - and most of those have been forced into it (another topic for discussion) and (2) they are less likely to cause any trouble or make a scene because they are afraid of the locals - afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being accused of prostitution and then prosecution and then jail and then deportation.
As a white western female - I don't have those same fears because the police will tend to take my version of events as more "believable" than an Asian woman in the exact same circumstances(see reason 1 above). It's unfortunate but true in this country and the GCC as a whole.
That's why I counselled Celia to try and get a Westerner's attention to assist her if she finds she needs help again. I'll tell the pervert where to get off and call the police and support her side of the story.
He might have had some success in the past...
I shudder to think what would have happened had the Installer guy not got in the car with her!!!
He must be the same guy who poses as CID and fleeces the "Private Taxi" guys.
arecel.. I have to agree that the pinoys that i have met in Qatar are one of the friendliest people around. Very polite and well mannered.
They are also soft targets because they can do any jobs from a domestic maid to a high profile office job, nursing etc and are very polite.
But what amuses me is that some people have labbled them and made their own unfound images of them, just because some of them might be the bad eggs..
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UkEng, that's because they think that just because we, Filipino females, smile at them , they think we like them and are easy. arghhhhhh...what are we supposed to do when we see a stranger, cry? stupid... and why should we like them? they hardly take a bath and are smelly! another arghhhhhhhh.....
marycatherine, yes, you are absolutely right. Women AND children are at risk. It's more worrying for children as they cannot take the necessary defensive actions, as you said.
There are some real sickos out there who prey on kids. :0(
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Why is more common with our Asian lady friends compared other nationalities..
There was a thread a few months back about the Indonesain girl working for Qatar Airways that had a similiar experince..
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They are two type of people that offer lift to strangers.. One is the pleasent one who will see, a young lady walking and pull down the window of his car and ask if he can offer her a lift..
Or it this type one who force one into the cars..
At the end of the day, both cases the intentions are the same?
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And I forgot to add that I get mistaken for a Filipino all the time so they dare to try and bully me.
NB: I said "try".
I suppose generally, SOME men are the same everywhere in the world and would use force and threats when they are not capable of winning a woman over.
Things are changing in Qatar for the better - I've been told that it's certainly better than a few (3-4) years ago - but things could be better.
The authorities have to really look into this. esp. since more countries are looking into investing here, people are certainly noticing and looking at Qatar. Even if the media is muzzled, how far can that go? Electronic means of communication connects the world. Word certainly gets out. So they need to keep ensuring that the word that gets out is positive.
Having said all of the above, Qatar is still GENERALLY safe. That's the operative word.
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This isn't just a female issue either. Young expat kids (both boys and girls) are also subjected to this type of harrassment and they are even less able to take the needful defensive actions - after all, don't we teach our children that the "police are our friends".
It happened last month to a child of a friend - tell your kids to not assume that it really is the police just because they say they are.
Celia, Sorry to hear about your trauma and hope you're ok now. Thank God nothing worse happened.
Owen, thanks for posting. Hope the police act on this. I do get disturbed quite a lot by creeps but I have defense strategies in place. But of course, I can't prepare for ALL eventualities but I have a few good ideas.
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No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
My dear if a person is afraid s/he doesnt understand how they should act in any particular situation or how to face these problems.
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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!
WHY SHE GOT IN TO A STRANGER CAR? AS LONG AS SHE WAS INSIDE HER CAR SHE COULD HAVE SAVED..
Gee Deeejay - guess you've never been a female in a position where you felt helpless. But as you say use 999 and call the police. If bozo is really a policeman, he won't have a problem. If he's a pervert, you will have the police there to arrest him.
Celia, as I said before. Make a lot of noise. If you feel you must get out of your car, get out on the opposite side to his. Start yelling. As if you are crazy. Ask anyone in any car close by to help you LOUDLY. I am a female white western woman and I'll help you. This guy is an a hole of the worst. He can be found in many parts of the world in many different guises.
Here in Qatar, these a holes try to pretend they are the police - never believe them until they produce proof. If necessary, tell your driver to go to the nearest police station. Tell the pervert that's where you're going, take his number plate and file a complaint.
Please protect yourself and your friends, tell them what to do in this situation.
i guess it wasn't a Qatari...cm'on Qatar in camry...never ever enter a strangers car...even he say's he is a police...even though if he's a police he has an ID of police...u should not enter..coz dey r so called police if they are in their uniform ...no cops are allowed question if dey r not in uniform...except CID'S ...so next tym b aware of this..and ,girls..when like this incident happens use the emergency number(999)...they will reach in seconds...Allah Hafiz ~~~
1- Ask for their ID first ...
2- If they refused tell them i'm calling the police right now ...
3- Call your sponsor later to put him in the picture ...
and ... no need for the rest, mostly this guy would disappear at point 2
God bless and glad that nothing serious happened ...
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)
if SPEED take some attention he may take this matter to media.
WTH is Doha turning into..my o my..what next
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Certain arabic men have a perception of south east asian women. These kidnappings keep popping up and need to be publicised more, otherwise they will happen more and more.
Ah... I flip them guys off most of the time. I always wait for my dad to pick me up and cars one after the other would stop and ask me if I needed a taxi. I was stoic. I don't even bother looking at them, pretended they're not even there. Even one psycho called me a "bi*ch", I just smiled with uber sarcasm.
Just give them the mean face.. that'll put them off. If you're always smiling and accommodating, that's another thing for them.
Be careful of these idiots. Be a bi*ch if you have to. You are just protecting yourself. Always remember that.
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Am i the only one that thinks the bus driver should have a stern talking to? he is essentially responsible for everyone on that bus. He should never have insisted that go to another vehicle.
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You haven't ridden the Pope mobil full of volunteer holy Nuns. Just a beautiful aurora irradiating through the windows....
Can anybody do something to report this matter to Print media?
Celia you escaped from more trouble only because your collegue also accompanied you.
Girls take note of the behaviour of these guys...
" Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated"
....G.B. Shaw
hope this weird incident finds closure with that sicko spending time in jail with lashes, and deportation. I pray that you get over this soon!
celia j....So sad this happened....
Never listen to a stranger....especially if he is commanding.
Never listen to a Police if he is not in uniform or unable to produce ID.
Never hand over your ID/Passport or Drivig Licence/Permit to such people (without uniform or unable to produce ID).
I have never seen a Police shouting at anybody here. ...that should have been the cue.
Report this incident to the police....dont be affraid to do it so long you're in the right side.
I assumed he wanted it since saying "fi wiskey" sounds as if he wanted it. If he was trying to put on an act, he wouldnt have said it like that.
First Im glad you're safe. Second you should never get into a strangers car, like marycathrine said just scream your head off in public and he will run away like the coward he is. Also since you mention he wanted alcohol this shows you hes one of those rotten Qatari's. Most Qatari's I know wouldn't hurt a fly, and would help anyone in need. Like everywhere in the world there are physchos and weirdos.
I'm very sorry this happened to you Celia, but I can't say I'm surprised. Certain "nationalities" are more vulnerable to this type of treatment than others.
If it happens again (or to any other person) stand in the middle of the street and scream - I can guarantee he will leave and quickly especially as this happened (I think?) at a busy time of day. If there is a car with a white westerner nearby, ask for help. Perverts are loathe to take on people who are willing to stand up for themselves or for others.
Call 999 and give the number plate and ask if this is a police officer (real police officers shouldn't have aproblem with this).
I have had national friends take on other nationals on behalf of asian women who were being harassed - unfortunately, they have to be in "the right place" at the right time. Not always an option.
Standing in the middle of the street and yelling especially when it is busy will get other people's attention and usually scare off perverts - but be sure to get his number plate and report him. If necessary, PM me his number plate and I'll report him.
geeez, if i knew it was that easy to pick up a woman in this country i would've purchased a vehicle by now.
c'mon people, i'm sure we've all been taught not to get into the car of strangers.......let alone complete psychos!
shocked...what the kind of animal(human being)he belongs...
Madam Celia, thanks God u'r ok now please do the right thing for the sake of others.
Beware and Take Care Everyone.... hope such things dont happen to anyone else....
Never Ever get into unknown persons CAR.... until unless ur 100% sure/satisfied...
What's even more apalling is that your company did not do anything about it. Our PR dept. would have called the police in right away.
owen-- we also didnt recognized it due to tension! lol!=D
Ooooppppsssss....got carried away! =D
“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.”
Sorry to hear this, BUT she should never have got into the car.. A lesson for everyone..
thanks owen (with celia's permission) for posting this to warn our friends. how can some people power trip on other nationality. i feel sorry for celia for having been caught in that real bad situation.
i hope celia feels better now and i really hope that the authorities will catch this ass#%&!
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oooops pepper, u must be confused, i think you posted your comment that's supposed to be in the other thread (filex thread) coz you posted it in tagalog...
yeah malley, better be sure she's wearing steel-toe boots when she kicks him out... he deserves it.. in fact, he deserves more than that...
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.what showed him the door?
.kicked him out....
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exactly MJ .. should have showed him the door.
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the nerve of him offering a handshake after what he just did!! you are right not to accept his apology....
Very sick & saddening, But thanx for sharing with Qlers as this will alert others too to be aware. As some said, you should report this to the police & this person should be punished for harrasing in broad day light.
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only now, i realized after reading what i just wrote up there that i confuse myself couple of times "his" and "her"....sorry bout that, good thing readers did understood what i meant.. :P
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Sorry for what happend to you celia and can imagine the plight and what you went through.. cheer up.
BUT make sure its reported and he is booked.
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Thanks GOD ur safe celia! Whats wrong with this &%#$*@) guy?
“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.”
Been here in Qatar for 4 years (and 12 days - to be exact) now and this is way too much...
.yeah right.. bring this to the authorities..
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Take this to the police celia. Don't let this get swept under the rug.
will try to get in touch with him PM.. although, we have consulted people "in position" with this kind of incidents.. and are willing to provide assistance to her should she and her colleague decided to report this formally.. celia is already informed..
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ms. celia, i hope u are alright now..im just glad that the installer was with you and that you were able to get the plate number.
i stand corrected celia....
i know MD.. i know.. :P
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Sarcasm, owen, sarcasm.
lol, MD. pretensions, pretensions...
wishful thinking MD.. wishful thinking...
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he's my arabic speaking officemate.. and he asked this guy ..waht gives you the right to ask her to go in your car..and this guy said he's just making sure If we are really going to our office or what...I was crying and shaking the whole time when he was in our office because He saw me get his plate number..then he said kalas.. and in arabic as if asking sorry... and wants to shake hands but I didn't accept his apology... In the office he's insisting he saw me sitting with our installer at the back of the car which is a super lie because our installer was sitting in front and his window is open while me my window is almost close so he knocked the glass window and insisted I come out and go to his seyara... Before I got out the car he even asked our installer FI WHISKEY??? this is the first time I goexperienced this and I don't even know how to react because how many times I'm asking whwhats our violation... he's just insisting that I go with him.. and In arabic he's saying he will drop us to our destination if I'm telling the truth... I showed him our documents in the office..our measuring tape...but he's acting like he fdoesn't care and just drove us around bin mahmoud... wHy? I didn't asked for ID???faced with the shouting arabic guy... then our driver telling me just go madam... then we're in the street on broad daylight..I got so confused already... then In my mind The moment I get out I will just get the car number and report this matter to whoever is suppose to handle thi things.... href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/live%20love%20be%20love/brenda02125/thlaugh.gif?o=9" target="_blank">
Carpe Diem..
Owen, you made up that story. Qatar is the most peaceful country in the world. Crime doesn't exist. Why do you do this?
.they should put those people in prison for many years to play a fake policeman role.!!
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.eagle of earth, you nailed it.......
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I can also only imagine how scared she was. Something similar happened to me about 9 years ago, I was driving a friends car as mine was in the shop.... yada yada..... it ended the same way, my poor son wet his pants he was so scared of this guy.
Chin up Celia, you are tougher and braver for next time. If in the future they cant present a Qatar Police ID, kick him in the .......
This is amusing, what about all the ladies out there with personal drivers? What if Celia and this guy were brother and sister...... this fellows a numpter and I hope he gets what he deserves cheeky git even grabbed her knee. I think if he was police and did that I think you would be justified in smacking him.... anyone agree?
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True PM...
i feel sorry about what happened to celia, i hope she feels better now, and pls keep us updating so we can aware for ourself. thx for sharing this information. hope the police will do something for that b!@#^^*s!
with three traffic violations, he is a crazy guy. It's easy to trace his whereabouts!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
tsk.tsk.tsk.....
did she get the plate number of that white camry? should be posted here so that others will be warned.
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This is the only time where I will agree with blacked out windows in the rear side windows.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
when it happens, we cannot think straight. emotions rule over mind...
those bastards!
That's because the mods are out to get you... it's nothing personal, you just be paranoid and hide in a dark room
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he has three traffic violations
seems he is always getting caught loading and unloading
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I posted a reply, nothing that should have been moderated and it was..... dunno.. it happened to me this morning also as I posted a story about rent decreasing and also got deleted.
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ubiquitous little a-hole....
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im anger-shaking right now....
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"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
lolz SAMAEL! good job!
she got the plate number.. i even posted it here.. but it got removed, i know why.. :P
DMS..gladly to give it to you.. check your PM..
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we will mark this man. Ask Celia to give us the plate number and the car type. We'll do the follow-up!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
None noted his car number??This should be reported. Please update us Owen.
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why would this guy treat her like that? Are they acquaintance?
Hmmmmm... do they have some personla issues?
"Whatever God does, He does it in love. he never take one thing away from you without giving you back something better".
Seems like it's a case of mistaken Identity!
she was so scared not to get in thinking of what might happen, and she was also scared to get in on her own which is why she asked her colleague to go with her... i hope this guy gets what he deserve..
her sponsor was planning of filing a formal complaint to the police..
hmmmm...strange, i open the some topic to the Fil Ex group.. but seems it got moderated.. why? beats me...
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currently, celia_j is still shaken with the whole situation... never knew that this could happened to her.. she will be online in a while to clarify what i just wrote above.. she just asked me to open this to QL so everyone can be warned on this kind of incident..
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Those kind of people needs to be behind bars...
owen, why she went inside stranger's car?
God knows what could happen if Celia went inside the car on her own.
Did you report this to the police?
ms. o, i hope she is okay...
unfortunately she did tallg, she got afraid, as well as her companions since all of them couldn't understand what the guy was saying and why he kept on shouting...
i also asked her the same thing...:(
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huh? never, ever get into a stranger's car. if he said he's a policeman, call your sponsor/manager/mandoob so he can talk to the guy.
i hope they reported it to the authorities...
Always take the car number, ask for the police ID and call 999 if in doubt.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
She got into a stranger's car? Blimey!
what a jerk! pervert! and the nerve of him turning the tables on her!