Traffic in India vs traffic in Doha

LOL...Jauntie,

Now with your post the forum gives the feeling of like 'completion'. Hey where have you been hiding so long?

Well, wise words and believe me everybody is just waiting for enforcement of these laws. I read that even those few decorative cameras on Corniche are also doing the trick.

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Maybe it's been mentioned already, but it's all about the Road Rage here in Doha:

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=173057&version=1&template_id=36&parent_id=16

"Road rage incidents on the rise as motorists lose their cool

Published: Sunday, 16 September, 2007, 01:28 AM Doha Time

MANY drivers in Qatar display a lack of regard for the law and contempt to other motorists on the road, a cross section of the public has said.

They said they are pinning their hopes on the new traffic law issued on August 7 and which is to be enforced on October 2 to see a substantial improvement in the current situation. The new law stipulates punishments like heavy fines and imprisonment for a number of traffic rule violations......"

I goes on to give a few ripe quotes from ex-pats also !!!

Blated wishes for ur bday...i shud have known i cud have taken a treat from u...

See i knew he wud love that...i wonder wha wud happen when he gets a car of his own...that wud be interesting...

And clever girl...u put down ur bdate and not the year...clever...ofcourse i wont ask u the year...so nice whats happenin for the evening...whats ur hubby into...?

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Anyone can get DL without going to driving school in India. And I am not kidding these are facts so accept them.

I was always taunted for our bad skills by British collegue (he is racist ofcourse), recently I have been to UK and learnt lot bout their driving lessons and how tough it is to get one DL. All Indians (UK) have nothing but to complain cos they have mastered this wrong art of driving for years.

Terramax watch our neighbors too

Taqwa is the most valuable fruit of fasting. Just as plants have their own season of flowering, so Ramadan is the season of the year, for blossoming of goodness, virtue and piety of the Muslim Ummah (nation). Not one, but millions of people jointly water

A Game of Hit the Target were u...sheeeesh ur driver jus missed the bulls-eye...kiddin...good nothing happened to ur kid and urself...now see u placed the school bag in the front seat...how disturbing that can be...

So it was like an F1 Race for a moment...with the tyres squealing and all...not bad...i m sure ur kiddo wud have loved it it wud have been a 3-d Race game for him...

Anyways...bday was a decent one...as mentioned...went for a dinner with family friends...since it was Ramadan, a couple of my freinds cudnt show up...so had to decide to spend it with family freinds...but still it was a nice one...it was a good start to the new year...

Same horoscope...now let me see...whens ur bday...when u getting 1 yr older chief?How old r u btw (i know u shudnt be askin a lady her age...its bad manners...but a little bit of bad manners is good for health...dont u think)

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It was a decent one i shud say...guess u cudnt ask for too much being Qatar and Ramadan...

So hows things with u champ...that was funny to see u getting knocked out by ur driver...does he really do that (noone is here...u can whisper the truth)...does he really go about hitting signs...and boards...?

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it's difficult to drive in India traffic but in Qatar it's simple coz most of people respect and obey the rules...

Oryx: Well absolutely right by u saying that survival is te Key word...i was jus pointing out that sometimes everyone of us r forced to tack off the rules while driving...bcos we need to save our A Z Z ...rather than get driven over by the guy behind u...

Charan: Dude...i m quite sure i wasnt justifying anything here or stand up for them...all i m saying is while i do accept the fact that Indians or ppl from the Sub-continent do drive around tough...its quite unfair to only point that out at just the 1 community over and out...

Alexa: Champ, u r a great girl (i m sure yet hopeful...LOL Kiddin)...i didnt get serious with this topic at all yesterday...and regd the wanking n stuff...well to be really frank it was prmiraily aimed at someone else...but guess u fell into the category for a while...but now u dont...so in the good old words of a British Comedy "Mind your Language: A 1000 Apologies"...

I was jus saying...yes ppl from the sub-continent bring in their driving here to this part of the world...only for a fact that this place goes with the same flow on the roads...i was in Aus for a while and trust me ppl...there where the rules are observed strictly...noone went off the track other than drunk buggers...i m quite sure thats the case in most countries where the rules r striclty observed...but here its not like that...everyone drives crazy...so the Sub-continenters join the race simple...

And surely...i was chill yesterday..no serious werious at all...

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ksarat - you better use the road properly in the 1st place before telling us what to do. Don't try to justify the dangerous driving pattern of most of the Indian workforce here.

Friend raj - Mother India has nothing to do with this problem here. I think she is really ashamed of the driving skills of most of her sons here

It is human nature to have a survival instinct.

I am going to be more wary of a scorpion than a butterfly...

I am going to be more cautious around a factor that in my experience has caused me harm... that isnt racism it is just plain common sense.

Now instead of blaming me... for my view point... why dont some people seek to improve their driving standards??? Because you won't solve anything by blaming others.

oh and another thing that really pisses me off is spitting.

it is disgusting and it is very unhealthy as it spreads TB etc which is coming very drug resistent.

so call me racist for complaining about that - or look at a way to educate people about hygiene practices for the benefit of all.

U said

guys i m sure even u ppl dont follow the rules here...tell me how many of u actually use the roads properly

Speak for yourself! I do -I follow the rules and use the roads properly.

I certainly don't:

use a mobile

cut up people

not signal

weave in and out of lanes

etc

wrong thread lol

Can someone tell FriendRaj to stop boiling? The temperature in Doha went up 5 centigrades today, and it is all because of him heating up the environment.... ;-)

teramax = how you to be becoming innocent after starting all.?????

COOLQUIETMAN = 1000 sorries. i am to be think man, talk man not to be a sissy girl.

LOL Alexa. So baedaebok, u might be one of the drivers I curse at lol, cause some people go on the fast lane yet drive like a snail! Or others go on the slow lane and drive really fast!

The thing I loved about Germany, is that left=fast, right=slow and people stuck to that rule!

I try to drive everywhere @ 60kph (except on those roads where everyone is going faster and I need to keep up). This makes me safer. I have't had any accidents yet so I'm grateful.

Another way to avoid accidents: PRAY just before you move (the last thing you do before you move the car). Not only might you get divine help, it focuses your mind on the driving. Some people pray before they eat. Driving is more high stakes than eating so praying before driving seems like common sense.

Can someone tell FriendRaj to stop boiling? The temperature in Doha went up 5 centigrades today, and it is all because of him heating up the environment.... ;-)

guess i didnt see the difference then while posting that

lol and not being cynical but i guess you havent heard of "the taming of the shrew".....by a guy called shakespeare.

do it right - the first time!

cool dudes

"tame the other conspirators on that thread too"

---> Only animals are tamed, Cool. If u want people to be polite, u got to do the same ;)

you have a very short memory my dear...go back earlier in our conversation where i already did apologise for calling you what i did.

oh and i did say i regretted it too....where was that now.....oh ..on some one s thread we hijacked....lol..

and its not just you...im waiting to tame the other conspirators on that thread too.

as for ks he s having a ball on his bday...i wouldnt spoil it....

do it right - the first time!

Will u? Will u? Pretty pleeeeeeeeeeease!

thats what i was looking for....the apology....though it took you over 2 hours to do it..at least you had the decency .

all s well that ends well...

do it right - the first time!

LOL. We never gave him the bus, the school did. :D

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

then buy a porsche....lol

its ur fault.....why d u give him a bus???

rofl....

whdo it right - the first time!

I'll give you his number Corne, he's a one and only! ;)

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

i am saying it again chum....dont cross your limits buddy and dont post

obscene comments here

girls .....let it go......do it right - the first time!

Raj, u need help. Pronto!

Darude, I wanted them to crash into me cause I was already in a bad mood and wanted to kill anyone :D

Gypsy, that's so cool! Where can I find one of those ?

My Indian driver is awesome. He does things with a bus that most people wouldn't attempt with a porsche.

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

Oh and 2 drivers were about to crash into me in the past week. Forgot to mention they were Indian :P

COOLQUIETMAN ------what are you to be saying now ???? my blood again boiling. can you to be controlling me. i am wanting to get in my computer and kiss all girls sayng bad here. than i chill.

people need to be more tolerant as well. if a joke is made about an issue which is not acceptable to some one else or hurts another the decent thing to do is to apologise and refrain ....... not continue to justify it.

ps if they didnt crash into you they could'nt have been indian.......

lol......we always manage to finish the job.....jk

do it right - the first time!

Nope it's completely ur fault! :P

2 drivers crashing into YOU or your car???

damn they got saved or you would have got them flat like a paper.

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People need to be less sensitive! So what if someone made a joke about a race? If it's funny then we'll laugh even if it's about another race. QL is a multicultural place, so all those cultural barriers should fall. Lighten up!

Oh and 2 drivers were about to crash into me in the past week. Forgot to mention they were Indian :P

the entire thread is just fine and acceptable

but the timimg of tasteless jokes at the end of it leaves a poor taste in the mouth......i dont think there is anything racist about it....but people do get emotional sometimes..

do it right - the first time!

Wow I didn't realize commenting on a particular nations driving skills was considered racist...I always more thought of it as a comment on the particular driving standards imposed by the governments of those countries. You can't drive properly if you are not taught to drive properly, the roads here are a prime example of that....Actually Karwa drivers are a prime example of that, both the Indian, Nepali and Phillipino Karwa drivers who are dragged over here and thrown behind the wheel of a car without any training or testing.

Saying India produces bad drivers is simply saying that India needs to improve it's driver training. As does Qatar and many other Arab nations, and other Asian nations.

People really do jump on the racism bandwagon a little too quickly.

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

okay I chill. but not to be saying another thing about mother india.

relax..and chill man..your message has been conveyed..(not exactly in those tones) but on similiar lines.....lol.....

do it right - the first time!

any one is speaks bad words at india my blood boiling. it is boiling much more now. black black in eyes coming in center near nose. also boss saying not to be btreaking my computer as FriendRaj is putting loaud noise with hand on table. holy mother india i love you.

OOOO paji whats wrong why are you getting so harsh man calm down.they are all just trying to have fun here nothing serious so why are you getting serious pal. just have fun around man.

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hey chill people....to take ur mind off this forum look at "kiss the boss" which ive just posted....something to make u smile....

do it right - the first time!

A Bunch of Racist yet jerk-off members of this lovely place called QL wanking it off jus bcos they didnt have some last nite at home doesnt meant everyone else gets into the mode of bashing up guys....come on whats this...

Traffic related accidents, incidents keep happening in every country...as i do agree for a fact that Indians are quite a lot here...i dont agree for the initial statement...ofcourse there are a lot of other ppl who get into hitting and accidents...guess one has to always remember...U r the only person who can see on the Roads....everyone else around u is Blind...keep this phil and u shud do fine on the roads...

Terry boy...Alexa, Oryx, Charan: guys i m sure even u ppl dont follow the rules here...tell me how many of u actually use the roads properly...here...i m sure u drive like a gem back home but here even u guys trip on the actual laid out RULES of Diving in this country...now u might come up saying...bcos others dont follow the rules we are forced not to follow...but come on guys...its not like ppl come upto u and hold ur hands while driving to break the rules...u do it to get urself ahead in traffic...

I agree there are a lot bad drivers but all of them are certainly not and will never be Indians...i wonder how a drunk Brit wud drive...

LOL...take it easy ppl...drive carefully...

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yes we need more cows . donkeys...a couple of camels..a couple of neo nazis..and an assortment of samba girls.....oh! did i forget the football hooligans??

stop this silly bantering you bunch of kids

take chill pills....take a lot of chill pills lol

do it right - the first time!

There are lots of them already. But all of them are...driving the cars :)

Terramax - This morning when I was driving to work on the cornice. I was on the extreme left lane and we all know the speed limit is 80km there. suddenlly somebody from behind honking at me and flashing his headlights . I looked at the mirror and saw this indian guy driving a van and he wanted me to give way for him. mind you I am driving a 4X4. Didn't even let him go infact I even slowed down to 70km. See this their attitude. they see what the Qataris are doing and they wanted to better than Qatari drivers. They think they own the car , the road and they have the powers of Qataris. Stupid idixts. They don't know if I stop suddenly and he hit from the behind , he is going to be in serious trouble. plain stupid.

Terramax has a point. But not all people from the sub-continent r bad drivers.

These same people (after getting trained here)when they go back to their home countries they crib about traffic just like u r doing now.

Charan: the good ones are educated ones, who understand that when moving to another country they have to follow the rules of that country, and drive accordingly.

t coffee = terramax only to be wasting time and saying bad for indians for attentiaon. he knowing all indians get angry. he no want good explaining only good laughing at HA HA HA HA shame shame terramax my village monkey are all knowing your name.

Terramax and Oryx - Totally agree with you. They are one of the worst recless drivers here. Most of them think they own the roads. Again there are few good ones as well.

i agree all make accidents

Terramx is attacking indians thats what the whole issue is over here

only a fool attacks based on caste culture r creed

not only indians r the culprit n u had just 1 accident that does not qualify as experience, go check in the traffic dept n stay in there for some time u will see that all different communities come to file their report

Tetramix is attacking Indians only that’s why we r arguing with him

I have even seen children playing in European cars with their dogs what have u to say about this

regarding children cycling on the road have u checked their nationality I am 100% sure they wont be Indians

If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.

terramax REPEATING AGAIN AND AGAIN ====are you to be telling me the licence giving peoples at qatar all blind. giving licence to indian peoples for free like giving sweet dates.

Shreeya: I can tell you why we speak about certain nationality. Just because you guys are a majority in Doha. And because subcontinent drivers are a majority among industrial drivers.So the way you guys behave affects us all.

If tomorrow Albanians or Costa-Ricans will form the majority of Doha population, trust me their driving habits will be discussed as well :)

madam oryx = Duh !!!! okay only one time for indian doing it. Duh !!!

terramax = yes to me Jew ONLY ONLY if Yes to Terramax a lice in my buffalo hair and towards a++hole area.

I lived in najma area before and never found any indian kids playing on the road. I think the majority in najma are indians. most of the kids are pakis or arabs. they are not worried even if they loose one in an accident.

Believe everything, Trust nothing . . .

mask_of_zorro: I don't change the topic. All I wanted to say I already said in my original post.

Agreed Oryx...Driving conditions need to be improved. But why only accuse some particular nationality? Check other threads and you will come to know who are really the bad drivers. And the children playing on roads, are you sure that they are again from subcontinent? Because I know many children playing on roads in my area too..and not a single one Indian.

Regarding reckless driving, I brought one of my cars from this Brit. At the time of buying there were 4 speed violations on this car. Now we are driving it past 6 months without a single ticket.

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Shreeya: LOL, SMS etc. are legitimate abbreviations. Writing "n" instead of "and" and not using capitals and , at least points in the end of sentence is bad manners and disrespect to others. It has nothing to do with Internet, but with the general culture of the person who writes.

Raj - if an Indian driver crashed into me why can't I blame him?

It was his fault.

He was driving wrecklessly (proved in court - big fine)

He was extremely rude.

Don't change the topic . we are not talking about English vocabulary. I guess its Guns 'n' Roses not Guns and Roses

Believe everything, Trust nothing . . .

Yes and I agree with Terramax when he says 'swing the discussion'

I was in FFC and being served at the pastry counter... and a subcontinent gentleman just butted in aggressively and barked his order.

I said, 'excuse me i am being served at the moment'

the guy just went off about me being white and about thinking I had the right blah blah...

if people dont get the chip off their shoulder and stop blaming others... they will never learn and always be angry ignorant pathetic little people.

I try (and guess sometimes fail) to judge when someone is being an knob head with me because I am female (I get pissed off) or just because they are a rude knob head.

It is hard to distinguish - I admit but we should try.

Dont blame everything you read/hear on racism/sexism just because you don't like it.

a) they may be an idiot

b) you may be wrong

okay madam oryx. there are many indian peoples here and much possible every accidant involve indian also. so not reason blame indian driver.

Terramx,

How about LOL, LMAO, ROFALMAO, WTF, FU*****, even SMS (you are using it yourself), Kinda, Gonna, Wanna.....endless list. Pip into any of the forums just for your reference. This is style of writing on internet, chat and not a disrespect to any language.

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Fact: My car was stationary - had been for a while at a red light.

Indian crashed in to it who was driving wrecklessly.

No apologies - 3 cars involved.

didn't check if people were ok.

Kids involved.

Now what do you think my opinion is based on this experience?

T_Coffee: sorry plenty of times I have seen kids being allowed to play in dangerous ares/on the dashboard - cyclists with no lights - going the wrong way. I live in Al Sadd Area... come and see for yourself.

Also using mobile phone and driving... really pisses me off.

We should have road rules enforced that everyone adheres to.

It helps if people can do that when they are writing too - to help us better understand their point of view.

However I realise it isn't always possible and prefer to read someones point of view than enforce grammar.

Anyhow, you people just didn't get the point. Just like jews who accuse anyone criticizing them of anti-semitism, you guys swing all discussions into racism (which makes no sense at all since indo-europeans is a single race).

Get a life, and a driving lesson!

TCOM,

I think he has nothing to continue now on the topic thats why he is changing his focus from traffic to english.....ohhhhh.... mistake... 'e' should be capital no?

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terramax you are teaching good good english and also to be teaching good good driving. god is making you perffect. you are to be getting big then god one day.

Shreeya: I am not talking about "perfect English", but using SMS style language in a forum is a sign of disrespect to others.

t_coffee: as I told you don't expect any answers until I will see "and" instead of "n" and all capitals in place. I don't maintain discussions with 10 years old kids. After this we can talk.

nonsense is what you guy doing on the QL of Doha. my blood BOILING now and me thinking taking you to village and tying you naked in my buffalo babies room in the night. buffalo babies getting thirsty and doing bad to you.than you to be thinking help indian help indian god.

Ohhhhh...Thanks a lot Terramax...nobody wants answer from you. Language is just for the communication. Nobody is going to write a thesis here. And above all, whats the use of such a perfect language which spreads only hate!!! Keep it with you....

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i am not in a school answering a grammar exam this is a forum n in forum u write in sms language.

dont try to chg the topic by attacking my english believe me u will loose when it comes to english as english is my 1st language unlike yours

chg your profile to reflect your country dont hide behind some other country like a coward..... again i am saying this be proud of your country n reflect it in your everyday life

If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.

I think we have to remember this is a melting pot for many different cultures who are used to different driving situations.

Pedestrians have a right to the road just as vehicle drivers. There are just not enough crossings for them. If you take the Salwa and Al Waab Road no one thought about pedestrians there, as there are none on Salwa and the traffic lights on Al Waab are at least a km apart.

Use of lanes is really bad as no one really knows how to use them properly.

I have hardly seen anyone who knows how to use a roundabout properly especially coming off the roundabout crossing three lanes.

Speed will automatically reduce as there are more and more cars on the road now.

Traffic is not a case of 'if you can't beat them join them' because it is a case of life and death really, and the knowledge how to be a intellegent an safe driver on the roads.

Shreeya: I was unfortunate to live in Najma area for some time, and at least twice I saw kids playing with bicycle almost falling under the wheels of the cars in an unilluminated part next to the Regency restaurant. No injuries to kids, but causing serious car accidents.

FriendRaj: no one says nonsense about India. Nonsense is what you guys do on the streets of Doha.

T-coffee: Try reading your post. You guys drive the way you write - no rules. If you want me to answer, write in proper English (which means capitals, fully spelled words etc). I can't maintain a dialogue with someone who writes like a 10 years old kid.

terramax english what you saying to t-coffee . for understanding only a language is t-coffee is not to english teacher. only english for communticating pourpose. 1000 sorries for bad english to english peoples.

terramax are you to be telling me the licence giving peoples at qatar all blind. giving licence to indian peoples for free like giving sweet dates.

you are not to be putting may be spectacle on nose having much much weak eye and driving. i am wanting to be saying much much bad words to you and also my blood becoming very hot to be reading NONSENSE !! for india. i am now to be putting hand on table 2 time very laoudly and boss asking why ?

terramax why are you to be telling my sister to see your children ??? hai your children not to be playing on road only in my village same to same happen. okay and you are to be seeing this circus of india peoples on which which roads i am to be very much interesting in circus also tell tell now.

Terramax,

People from all countries are residing in Najma area...there are Pionys, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Egyptians and all others.,,why to blame it on only Indian drivers? The roads are so conjusted with the unique beautiful design of biiiiig roundabouts and smaaaaal circulating roads. Still I am yet to observe any big accident on these roads, believe me as I am a daily commuter on these roads.

You have to agree the fact that behind every accident there is a SUV, fortunately not driven by subcontinent drivers.

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u r wrong drivers here adder to the rules n speed limit of Qatar

n talk of walking ... u wont see much from the subcontinent ppl Jay walking in the middle of the road... next time open your eyes n u will know who r jay walking

n talk of playing on the road Indian parents never allow their children to go out without supervision leave alone playing

your views r so distorted this is why we have labeled u racist.

n last of all if u r not from brazil plz do change your profile be proud of your country n not shamed of it

If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.

Shreeya: sure, that's my point as well - they behave same here - i.e. drive 40 without observing lanes, turning where they want to, without indicating, jaywalking in the middle of the road. So when someone (not only a SUV at 120) but a car driving at 60 to 80 comes, the accident is inevitable.

Just go to Najma in the end of the day to see the same. There are even kids playing in the middle of the street..

T_coffee: I agree there is a system. But this is YOUR system and it works THERE. The fact that a majority of the drivers on the road are from subcontinent, doesn't mean they can bring their "system" with them.

Lara123: There are enough Brazilian football players in Doha, but definitely much less than indian drivers.

Btw. I see no point in you guys attacking Brazilians (for your info, I am not a Brazilian). Pointing fingers will not change the fact that the majority of the drivers on the Doha roads are your compatriots, and the "industrial" (especially those who drive white TATA buses with workers) drivers shouldn't be given license even to walk.

Note one more thing in that 'Indian' video Terramax...just observe the speed of vehicles, not more than 30-40 I am afraid and not a single 4X4 drive.....Now imagine the same thing on Doha or Brazil roads with all SUVs with speed over 120...just imagine...you can even add drunk drivers from another video and watch the 'fun' with tea and biscuits...

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Agree with you Terramax.

Shouldn't I migrate to Brazil now? I love the samba and footballers there.

some more for u to ponder

PPL who stay in glass house should not throw stones at others

If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.

At least we have a road network n in all that chaos there is a system n we don’t have much accidents

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If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.

I will personally make up flasks of tea (after Iftar!) and take biscuits to the traffic police so they will enforce the rules and don't need to go off and get a cuppa.

I am sure I am not the only person really hoping that these rules will be enforced to the max.

Terramax I totally agree.