The Ultimate QL Post
This OP has everything - it has a Qatar element, plenty of scope for Indian bashing, religious law interpretation and the use/misuse of the Internet:
Talaq joke during internet chat may cost Uttar Pradesh youth his marriage
Published: Wednesday, Oct 27, 2010, 19:15 IST
"A talaq joke to his wife on the internet may cost an e-savvy youth his marriage.
The youth, a resident of Qatar, had spelt talaq three times while chatting with his wife but little did he realise that his humourous intention in cyberspace will nullify his marriage in reality.
Islamic seminary Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband has ruled that saying talaq thrice even casually without any serious overtone is valid as per the Shariyat (Islamic Law) and the marriage stands nullified. The nationality or the identity of the youth was not revealed.
The ruling was given by Deoband' fatwa section Dar-ul-Ifta in reply to a query posted by a youth from Qatar.
The youth in his query (question number 26075) had stated that while chatting with his wife over net he jokingly spelled talaq thrice.
Claiming to have less knowledge about Islam, the youth said that he didn't know how talaq is taken.
The youth had stated that he was happily living with his wife and wanted to live with her in future as well.
Dar-ul-Ifta in its reply has said that once talaq is spelled three times it amounts to divorce and her wife was "haraam" for him.
The fatwa section in its reply stated that in the process it does not matter whether the man had enough knowledge of Islam or not.
Under such circumstances the youth was neither allowed to take his wife nor to marry her again, it stated adding that now she would be required to go through "halalah".
Halalah is a practice under which the woman has to marry and divorce another man before she can marry her previous husband again.
As per the ruling that the woman would be required to complete 'iddat' (three months time) period after which she would be required to marry another man.
The woman would be then required to divorce her second husband and go through iddat period again.
"Then only the woman would be allowed to re-marry her former husband," it stated.
Iddat is a period when the woman is supposed to stay away from celebrations and socialising.
"When you gave three talaqs, all the three took place. No matter whether the woman gives talaq or not. Your wife became haram for you whether you are aware from the commandment of Islam more or less," the fatwa read.
"Neither you have the right to take her back nor solemnize new nikah without a valid halalah. After the completion of iddat period, the woman can marry where she wishes except you. It is proved from Bukhari (Vol. 2, P. 791) and Fatawa al-Hindiyah etc," it added.
Senior mufti of Dar-ul-Uloom Waqf Arif Kasmi said that under Shariyat talaq even if given in a lighter vein amounts to divorce."
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_talaq-joke-during-internet-chat-may...
soniya, the intention is the base of each single action in Islam...
ghazalz, nobody knows the actual picture..We are all commenting on the basis of what has got publicised in the newspapers..
Hope the MAN wasn't foolish much to use the word TALAQ while conversing with her..
I think the some contents of the news are missing...It's misinterpreting here by the newspaper.
'Halalah' & 'Talaaq'...
Every Muslim knows; These are the two most important topics of life & they do not apply on the situation as mentioned here.
Thanks Fathima, that was my point as well. There must be more to the story which has been hidden for making the news sensational.
that's exactly what I posted on the previous thread.
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1410519
There is certainly more to the story and the guy is obviously now repenting his decision, and Allahu alam!
Brit, someone knowledgeable may come up and answer to enrich our knowledge.
Us discussing posts like these is like me and my friends discussing medicine and cures..
Most of us don't have enough indepth knowledge of the topic ..
Mr.M, let's start finding out the whereabouts of that MAN in QATAR...:)
Mr.M, i've said it all in the link pasted above by TINKER...I said it very clearly that it looks like a clear intention from the part of the MAN that he indeed was knowing the importance of the WORD talaq and deliberately used it to get rid from his wife..
If he wasn't knowing at all, than i m sorry, he is not a MUSLIM..
Who went and informed others that the word was typed 3 times and hence its serious? One of them must have been serious about getting divorced or else the whole world wouldn't have known about it.
true, i wanted to post smiley, by mistake i put wrong link to put smiley's, you are too sharp, good.
Soniya to give a example,the word Talaq canot be used as frequently as in 'is dinner ready?' or 'did you buy the groceries yet?'.I mean i a routine manner.You got it?
hms, yes it was there..i had seen one link pasted alonwith ur comment..i think u have edited that part..
Soniya what's important is the intention i agree,but the word Talaq is not a word that a man can play around with,because if he doesn't keep it in check,he is going to need councelling.
Tinker please,there are young people using QL! :)
where it is ??
hms, what's that link for?
good
Mr.M, i said it as per the EXPLANATION given above...I quote :
"If the husband writes a message to his wife saying “You are divorced,” whether that is via a mobile phone or on a piece of paper or via e-mail, then it depends on his intention at the time of writing. If he was determined to divorce her, then it counts as a divorce, but if he wrote that without the intention of divorce, rather he wanted to make his wife upset or some other reason, then it does not count as a divorce."
Oh yeah tiner, u r right..better to be away from it..lol
Tinker like who would want to go through it all AGAIN? :)
Soniya,if a man prounces Talaq three times to his wife,there is no question of whether he was serious or joking,it's all over for their marraige.
st100281, thanks for the explanation..
Hope the MAN wasn't in serious mood while typing TALAQ for 3times during conversation with his wife..
Tinker and what would that be? btw that is quite informative though.
must have been sleeping
posted before