Under-skilled expats blamed for low output

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Under-skilled expats blamed for low output rate in Qatar

A study has expressed concern over the declining productivity rates in Qatar, pointing out that the low man-hour output constitutes a major challenge to sustainable development in the country.
The study, which was issued by the Population Committee at the General Secretariat for Development Planning, said the average productivity per hour in Qatar had declined from 4.8% between 1990 and 2000 to 1.8% between 2000 and 2007, which the study blamed on the labour market policy.
“This is very low compared to what has been achieved by China (10.1%), Bahrain (5.13%), India (4.1%) and Oman (4.18%) in 2007,” the study said, citing findings of a report issued by the Conference Board, an international business and research organisation.
The study held the large numbers of the under-skilled expatriate workforce responsible for the low output per hour experienced by the country.
“What is alarming is that over half of the expatriate workforce (55.9%) are either uneducated or below secondary education level,” the study said.

http://gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=314792&ver...

By Eagley• 26 Sep 2009 21:12
Eagley

mkweng, some companies have it the other way around - Low salary, high production, high salary, sitting on a***!!

This survey also conducted in a bank :P

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By mangkepweng• 20 Sep 2009 19:41
mangkepweng

low salary

less production

high salary

higher production

By anonymous• 17 Sep 2009 09:59
anonymous

Why I'm not surprised?

By Don Robert• 16 Sep 2009 13:52
Don Robert

I'm sorry Gica Contra, not interested.

"Do not do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you(Wag kang gay-an, kung mang gagay-an ka, wag gay-on)"

By anonymous• 16 Sep 2009 13:43
anonymous

Don, read my previous post....you copycat! :)

By nicaq25• 16 Sep 2009 13:40
nicaq25

Don Robert..LOL!

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By Don Robert• 16 Sep 2009 13:34
Don Robert

skilled expats chatting in QL instead of working should be the one to be blamed for low output...Thank you

"Do not do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you(Wag kang gay-an, kung mang gagay-an ka, wag gay-on)"

By gtim• 16 Sep 2009 13:25
gtim

You've got the point Vperez... should not blamed it to expat workers. In the 1st place they should upgrade their hiring system... screen the applicants, hire the qualified and give the right compensation and benefits. But what i observed is the other way, they are hiring the unskilled and uneducated workers coz they want to pay them less and save money...

By nicaq25• 16 Sep 2009 13:08
nicaq25

do u think this study is fair enough with you? Because in my perspective although me & you do not belong to the unskilled labor force as what they mean here, the word 'expatriates' generally covers almost all foreign workers here and comprise the workforce of Qatar. Blaming expats not fair though.

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By SHAJIV• 16 Sep 2009 13:02
SHAJIV

For sure, these two category people will not work as CEO or MD, (either uneducated or below secondary education level,”) they must be working as labors of different level. What it means then?

By nicaq25• 16 Sep 2009 12:28
nicaq25

nothing to do with being un-skilled.

Did they say; professional? or non-professional expats?

It said only: “What is alarming is that over half of the expatriate workforce (55.9%) are either uneducated or below secondary education level,” the study said.

Well, are you one of the above?

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By alrama_s• 16 Sep 2009 12:11
alrama_s

1. expat + small salary = small work

2. local + big salary = small work

so what's the difference between expats and local. they must not blame it all to expats....

please review again the study you are telling to all of us......tnx...

"always be sincere even when you don't mean it"...

By anonymous• 16 Sep 2009 11:41
anonymous

totally agree with you. the Sheikhs are probably not even aware that this is happening.

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By SHAJIV• 16 Sep 2009 11:36
SHAJIV

Is the productivity wholly depends on labors only??????? i don't think so!

By stealth• 16 Sep 2009 10:53
stealth

They didn't say anything about corruption right.

By anonymous• 16 Sep 2009 08:32
anonymous

Chuck in corruption as well and that also affects productivity... look at the roads for example...

By anonymous• 16 Sep 2009 08:24
anonymous

@ angel16...FYI,there are unqualified people of almost EVERY major nationality in this country doing jobs they've never done in their live in postions of authority & who've got those jobs by means other than the fact that they actually deserve it,don't know which expat group you're referring to here but irrespective of that,what you should be saying is remove ALL unskilled/unqualified people IRRESPECTIVE of nationality...

By angel16• 16 Sep 2009 08:06
angel16

they must reduce them,or remove those unskilled workers...

By anonymous• 16 Sep 2009 08:00
anonymous

Discrimination and corruption is the major cause of low productivity.......and everyone knows it.

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

By JaCo• 16 Sep 2009 07:56
JaCo

that made me lol.

you get what you paid for (duh)! highly skilled professionals for less than qr1,000/month? yeah right.

By Gypsy• 16 Sep 2009 02:06
Gypsy

It is the expatriates, however it's the locals fault for hiring uneducated, inexperienced expatriates and paying them nothing and not demanding that they get proper training before they throw them out onto construction sites. You get what you pay for is all I say.

By sMaRt_iDiOt• 16 Sep 2009 01:56
sMaRt_iDiOt

under-skilled locals made this survey. Sorry.. not my intention to offend.

By azilana7037• 15 Sep 2009 23:30
azilana7037

contributes to the low productivity output rate...really???

And the 44.1% NON-EXPATS busts their butts working? whehehehe....thanks for making me laugh...

By flanostu• 15 Sep 2009 23:13
flanostu

survey must've been conducted in a bank.

By GodFather.• 15 Sep 2009 23:09
GodFather.

This will only change when the locals start to lead by example and do some work too?

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By Alumnar• 15 Sep 2009 22:43
Alumnar

... who sell Visas to people so they can work for whoever they want? For how many times more the price then it costs them?

This is the future and the way to be? For me it only has one name:

SLAVERY!!!

By stevethetyke• 15 Sep 2009 21:29
stevethetyke

Depends upon what they were producing (construction wise) between 1990 and 2000. I hear all the major developments here are fairly recent.

By Alumnar• 15 Sep 2009 21:08
Alumnar

Pay skilled workforce decent salaries. Invest in training programs. Don't overwork and underpay them. Use incentives and show them appreciation. Give them proper accomodation and allowances so they can eat enough to be able to work properly... and I could go on and on here.

It would be nice to see how Qatar would do with local people only doing all the jobs for a year. Can a country go bankrupt? If not the case, it can sure be CHAOS!

By blueRoSe• 15 Sep 2009 21:02
blueRoSe

there must be a big mistake...shouldn't it be the other way around???

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can & the wisdom to know d difference.

By britexpat• 15 Sep 2009 18:51
britexpat

I wonder how they calculate the "Manhour output" ??

I mean how does a mnhour output of a road surfacer compare to one of a manufacturing plant worker in China ?

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:55
anonymous

I was still half asleep but realized it needed some clarification.

Actually I think Qatar is fortunate that even in cases where people are paid peanuts and have horrible living conditions, most still do their jobs pretty well. I guess it is not as much "output" as you would get with slaves, though... :-/

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:52
anonymous

Exactly, PM. I work for 25.000 and Einstein would have asked for 250.000. That's why they have to have crap like me.

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:52
anonymous

nice clarification :)

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By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:50
anonymous

and deserve what you get. If you don't pay enough and provide good working and living conditions to attract and retain excellent employees then that is where the blame should be put.

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:47
anonymous

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By nomad_08• 15 Sep 2009 15:21
nomad_08

allow them to enter malls and souqs on Fridays and their output will increase.

By the-birdie• 15 Sep 2009 15:17
the-birdie

the development history of Middle East countries shuld also be written with the sweat, tears & blood of expatriate labour. ( I used the word "also" ) .

let us think, how the home countries of these expatriates function.

whether it is India, Pakistan, Bangladesh....... to UK or US.. take any nation, the nationals in those countries were involved in the jobs "A" to "Z" grades.

let us imagine a scenario - where all the expatriates are driven back home. How these countries will survive ? Do these nationals really "work" ?

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 15:13
anonymous

i think it was

"you get paid for what you deserve"

if im not mistaken.

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"You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back."

By heero_yuy2• 15 Sep 2009 15:08
heero_yuy2

You get what the non-Qatari sponsors pay for a deserve.

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By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 11:40
anonymous

That's not Qatar's problem. Jobs for their citizens comes first.

By britexpat• 15 Sep 2009 11:33
britexpat

The economies of the countries supplying the labour would be negatively affected..

By Nakamura• 15 Sep 2009 11:31
Nakamura

I agree with exiledsaint

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 11:23
anonymous

They should nationalise the labour jobs and then the productivity will go up.

By mintus• 15 Sep 2009 11:17
mintus

MAybe if the random 1 or two locals would spend more than a few hours a week in there workplace this may go up.

By vperez• 15 Sep 2009 10:20
vperez

what about those under-skilled and uneducated locals who are supposed to be the one making progress for their own country?

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By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:16
anonymous

Gica, 'educated' expatriates can do both at the same time. It's the undereducated who can only either do QL or do their work!

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:14
anonymous

There are a lot of educated expatriates but they are loosing time on QL. MOD, just for test, close the site during normal working hours and than will check the productivity again! :)

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:14
anonymous

are they referring to the Sponsorship system here in Qatar??

please forgive my ignorance :O(

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By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:10
anonymous

The study says that salaries have to be doubled or tripled to attract educated expats, brit.

By britexpat• 15 Sep 2009 10:06
britexpat

I still don't see what the study is trying to say ?

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:06
anonymous

they are in-part to be blame as well..

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"You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back."

By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 10:05
anonymous

Why should expats be motivated and productive? It's not their country, they can't get citizenship. If Qatar wants to change this, they have to give all civil rights to the expats.

By nicaq25• 15 Sep 2009 10:02
nicaq25

what else is new?

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By anonymous• 15 Sep 2009 09:58
anonymous

We know for fact that most of the construction labor workforce in Qatar are either uneducated or below secondary education level.

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By _noms_• 15 Sep 2009 09:29
_noms_

Yet again expats are to be blamed !!!

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