Violence against women, kids ‘on the rise’

wheres the mulberry bush?

LP has too many mery go rounds..:)

LOL LP ! ;)

Now she's after you, ha, ha.

Don't hi-jack, BG!

mery200 oh mery ur such a spamy

brit, mery is calling for you!

This is the best: "... guide them on hiring housemaids to look after the children."

Instead of teaching the parents how to take responsibility and care for their own children, they are advised how they can get rid of their responsibility by hiring a nanny. Bravo!!

It's the old days. Some people believe that a slap or belt is the answer to instilling some discipline and showing your love. Times change and so will Qatar.

BG, read the constitution, it tells you what Qatar is.

LP, you say "brutal", but as the article quotes:

“They don’t know the difference between caring and punishment,”

Maybe they just love their kids? A lot? Like, lots and lots and lots.

LP confirm earlier i have read ur comments qatar is not an islamic country ? and this is too will lead to an hijack

does it say Qataris only or residents of Qatar?

How can there be domestic violence in an Islamic country? Must be the expatriates who are so brutal.

Effital and 5000mg (looks like full strip of 10)...:) is an hijack pls talk on topic related to violence and domestic abuse in qatar

What is Effital and 5000mg (looks like full strip of 10)...:)

yeah n others have all the right to hijack without a warning except the monkey ( point clear)

fubar...thanks...I was driving home that point which you stated much more clearly...:)

Tinkerbell, it's you that doesn't get it.

This thread, like so many others, has now been diverted so far off course that it's of little meaning or value to anybody. So BG's work here has been done.

Hopefully the mods can just delete out the waffle and return to thread to the issue of domestic violence in Qatar?

And it is interesting to note that everyone on the thread, with the exception of 1 individual, is happy with the idea that increased protections are being offered toward women and children who are the victims of domestic violence.

You couldn't ask for a clearer indication of what he thinks about the value of family and how (or if) women should be respected and protected.

ok what wrong did u see pls share

Don't Hijack the Topic. Warning!!. [Mods]

The moral flaw in that sort of 'argument' Prism is that it is essentially saying that others are evil, so we should seek to be as evil as them.

In contrast, rational people try their best to uphold the law, whether it's God's law or a law of mankind, and to live as honorable people.

That's what sets mankind above animals - an understanding of what is right and what is wrong, and even if others are doing wrong, they will strive to do what's right.

Obviously this isn't a view shared by everyone.

BG...to me it doesnt matter what others are doing, wherever possible try to set things right and so no harm in atleast registering your concern.

fubar...agree...I was asking BG that because if somewhere a law gets violated does that mean everywhere else the law can be violated (which seems to his POV) or should it be the other way round. I find same arguement in defence without any thought behind it, just for the sake of it and for everything rather boring and so wanted to have his perspective.

But they wouldn't be violating the law, Prism.

In Qatar it's not technically a crime to abuse your wife.

BG...so what are you suggesting...since there are places which can be considerd as violating the laws the same should be allowed in Qatar too?

I spoke too soon.

According to the Qatar's National Development Strategy document (page 170) Qatar aims to put in place a Domestic Violence law by 2016.

It cites the following statistics from Qatar:

In 2007 a SCFA study surveyed 2,778 citizen and noncitizen female students:

• 63% reported they had been victims of physical abuse.

• 52 individuals reported cases of “strong violence” (such as rape).

• 120 individuals reported they had been victims of sexual harassment.

A 2008 study surveyed more than 1,000 married Qatari

women:

• Consistent with earlier studies—an estimated 28% of married women reported having experienced domestic violence.

• Domestic violence was most frequently carried out by

husbands (the main source), brothers or fathers.

Good observation Fatimah. Social pressures in religious communities have often made it difficult for women (and victims more generally) to come forward.

Students from Qatar are looking to adopt a model similar to one used in the USA, and in particular with success among Orthodox Jewish communities.

However I don't know how willing the Qatari authorities are to adopt any legislation at present, but credit to the law students for showing an interest and drafting laws for consideration.

I do hope the Saudi lady get's her justice. Guess in some societies/families preserving one's so called family honor and patriotism is more important than bringing to light despicable acts and punishing the culprits behind them.

And when it comes to domestic violence, whether the perpetrators are males or females, a lot of emotional and physical and even financial confusions,complications and fears arise which prevents the victims seeking help.

say, "on the rise"... isn't it just that more people are coming forward and admitting to being abused... I don't believe this is an unknown phenomenon... its always been there, but the abused were to scared to come forward...

BG, what does premarital s e x have to do with anything?

The shelter is obviously a good thing, but of more importance is for there to be an actual law against domestic violence.

Qatar has no law specifically criminalizing domestic violence.

fathimah, i hope all abused women will have the strength and will power to come out in the open and report their abuser like what the well-known TV presenter in Saudi Arabia did, Rania al-Baz..She invited photographers into her hospital room and allowed newspapers to show pictures of her swollen and bruised face and has had repeated surgery for 13 fractures.Ms Baz accuses her husband, Mohammed al-Fallatta, of severely beating her, threatening to kill her, and abducting their children.

She says she stayed with him because she was afraid she would be denied custody of the children if she obtained a divorce.She has now formed a group to combat the abuse of women in Saudi Arabia..Alhamdulillah her husband has surrendered to police to face charges of attempting to kill her. Though, it's so odd that there has been no official comment from Saudi police on the arrest or charges..

I just can't fathom the fact that the presence of problems such as domestic violence, rape, paedophilia or Aids is often simply not acknowledged.

And that new laws are being sanctioned itself are steps in the right direction. Domestic abuse is by far a crime that needed to be done with years ago but still prevails sadly despite so many advancements in societies.

However any country's government that makes it a priority to stamp out such evils surely deserves all the support and laurels, so well done Qatar!

Terrible that this is on the rise, but good to hear that people are taking it seriously and taking steps to reduce.

I particularly hope the education campaigns to modernize people's views of women's rights in Qatar works and are not dismissed as some sort of Western attack on regional culture.

The continued education of women is always the best solution such cases.

I think it's a roundabout way of saying that women who are earning money in the workforce are generally more independent and self-sufficient, so less likely to be abused by their husbands.

Providing breastfeeding locations in a workplace means that the mother can remain in paid employment longer, and it also means that the infant isn't left with a careless/hostile nanny at home.

Reading between the lines, are we supposed to get the impression that there is an amount of violence against infants coming from their nannies? Or is it just that nannies aren't providing the proper care (such as nutritious food, stimulating playtime etc) - hence the need to advise parents about hiring them?

Think, brit, then you will know.

Can't open the link, but what does breast feeding have to do with domestic violence ?

Will be a step in the right direction ..