Why did they agree?
I would love to hear from you, why after so many years Palestine has been admitted as an observing UN member. Why now? Is there a motive dodgy behind this? Does Palestine include Gaza or it is just the West Bank? I would love to hear it from you ordinary guys, not from the news, M.E. Experts, Political pundits, etc.
tahsin
At lease I dont talk rubbish like you always do
You have no idea what I do for the people who refuse the invasion...so mind your own business
Make no mistake, I wasn't referring to the conflict itself and the invasions and oppression, I was referring to only the move made by the UN..finally! That we could either see this like the glass been half full or half empty kinda.
And as a Muslimah and a human being, what happened to those people in Palestine feel to me akin to it happening to my biological family..believe it or not! I wish to see the end of the bloodshed and massacres of innocents there, just like I did back in my homeland.
Sorry Quixote
It is the only
Hajji - NO not the only........
well Quixote, when your enemy does not recognize your rights and has the wrong understanding of peace, then the only answer for their force, is force.
Sometimes you have to fight to achieve peace.
QDCLover,
You are talking about arabs, jews, christians, history...etc.
I am talking about Zionists
A totally different issue
Hajji - In general agreement but why is the only solution to address force with force? Hamas (as the Israeli State) will have to address this issue and then peace will follow. This is a new world in ME politics.
hajji, what about the original arab/muslim invaders who conquered the land now known as Israel/Palestine? Because it was a long time ago we can forget the land was originally stolen? If Israel exists for a 100 years can we forget the Arabs now as they lost the war?
Fathimah:
"what has happened has happened"
Would you say so when someone takes your home, kills half your family, and throw the rest to live in the garden of your home? Then starts building room after room in the garden until you are cornerd in a few inches of space?
It is not "happened"....it is still happening day after day.
Quixote:
"Palestinians need to address the problem of Hamas"
Hamas is not a problem at all. It is a logical response to a terrorist regime that only understands the language of force.
The real problem are those who sign peace treaties with such a terrorist regime.
I think the world is becoming rather weary of this, apparently, irresolvable problem. This latest move is mostly symbolic, but very important and the environment of the region has changed, post Arab Spring. The global community wants a peaceful resolution and this should be two States, according to the 1967 agreement.
Lets be clear; Israel is not full of Zionists (but they still seem to hold the power) and the Palestinians need to address the problem of Hamas for this to move forwards.
I am optimistic about the move....
and rationality. Yes it should have been done much earlier, however what has happened has happened, and it's best to look at it from a better now than later, and better late than never angle.
I also believe that by making such a motion the UN has gained some much needed credibility as well, again not just with the people of Palestine, but with people around the world in general.
Now how far would this change work in bringing about peace among the warring nations is left to be seen.
Yes, Palastine includes Gaza. Actually it includes all territories and borders that were declared in 1967 (which is actually an injust resolution, as the Zionists have no right in any inch in Palestine)
Two states on the 1967 borders is fair to both parties and most nations seem to agree. However israel doesn't....
It was a sybolic move calculated to send a message to both parties to come to the table and try and move things forward.
Why nearly all countries agreed was quite simple. Most believe in a homeland for the Palestinian people but not all can agree on what that should actually be. So making Palestine an observe state is a statement of intent without backing a full independence.
Israel while continuing to build settlements in the West Bank is undermining the whole process and it seems obvious they want to swallow all Palestinian terrority. Shame on them.
symbolic move that adds further legitimacy to their claim
It is really complicated..Palestine is probably the most prominent indicator of how unjust the world is being lead by politics and power. To your point, I would say it is due to the evolution of the political scene and the behaviour of the Zionist regime which pushed it into isolation to the point where they could not get adequate votes among UN member states. Additionally, west is a bit tired of supporting the Zionist's states and cleaning up its miss so they want to have some stability..The west was a key player in creating the Zionist state but they did not have the same intention Zionist's had..My thought anyway..interesting topic :)