Wise words from STEVE JOBS

UK eng Qatar - read your Bible. W=he is described as both and was a home wrecker

Exactly now the questions come what makes Humans strong to deal with such calamities.Some people will turn to their faith for strength others will turn to society around them and learn how to be strong and some may even look inside themselves for strength.

More or less like what we believe that trials will continue to befall us until we meet our Lord. You will never find anyone in complete ease without any troubles.Everyone will taste adversities from time to time regardless of who you are and who your with.And many times we might find ourselves tested with our loved ones.What makes you better/worse is how you deal with the calamity. Do you wail and curse, and blame others or do you think to yourself "I can overcome this", be strong and do what it takes to assist yourself in getting over it.That is when you will realize that ultimately nobody in the heavens and earth can help you unless you help yourself.They can only try but its up to you to take action.

Having read your nice post, I remember having read some where-" Problems and pains are written in your fate - Dont curse the person who caused you, he is only the medium - curse your fate"[ Probably translation may not good - FatimaH correct it]

Slapper I don't know if he was mean mild or meek, but damn sure he has a lot of followers!

looks like this is going off tangent...............

Princess Sarah - I have no idea what you are talking about, but the funny thing is neither do you.  Spare us with the white noise. 

UKENGQATAR- you mean mild and meek Jesus?? The one that said leave your friends and family and follow me? The highest moral std indeed!!!!!!!!

Finally all great people we remember today had the ambition to make the lives of their fellow human beings better that's why we remember them. Just imagine if prohet Muhammad or Jesus just lived for themselves we would not have two of the biggest religions in the world today! Great people change other people's life and small people only change their own!

It's fine to live our lives to fulfil our ambitions but we should never become slaves to our desires that we don't see any thing beyond the tip of our nose!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobscheck the second part of his biography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobscheck the second part of his biography

Yes this is true as far as our duties go. But we must not feel like our life will end just because say our spouse/parents/children etc were to die or leave us for any other reason. Its more like love for Allah's sake,do your duties by others but don't make them your objects of worship where its in them alone you find happiness and the will to live.You know the kind of people who get all suicidal and depressed just because another didn't return their love and dedication..that's who I mean.And that's true wronging another is by far a greater sin than those deeds for yourself that you may neglect every now and then.PS: I ain't no scholar bro, just a layman like yourself and right now as far as your attitude to your loved ones go I can wholeheartdly say : Respect! Just wish more people had your kind of dedication and May God make those you love bring you happiness in this world and the next..Aamen!

FathimaH I have learnt true happiness comes when you make the effort to make others people happy.Ok I am not a scholar like you in Islam but here are my few pennies worth. There are two duties to Muslim Hakooq Allah (duties to the creator) like praying and remembering him etc and then there are Hakooq Ul ibad (duties to his creation).Where as I believe that God (Allah) may forgive you if you missed a few prayers or few fasting days. But he will not forgive you for any ill deed you may have done to his creation. Only that person can forgive you.So coming back to what I am trying to say. For a Muslim there is no such thing as living for himself, he lives for others and obeys the creators instructions laid down to him through the testaments and religious teachings.

Not live for yourself where you become selfish...its more like live in such a manner that you strike a balance between being selfish and self centered and being a doormat and selfless. Its more like don't go to any extremes in what you do and love and respect yourself along with loving and being dutiful to others.Make your own happiness and don't expect another humanbeing to be the one your whole life centers around. Because a human being is prone to change and if nothing else remains mortal. So live a life with no regrets and do what you must neither less nor more. 

FathimaH if we all lived for ourselves then the social cohesion and understanding will never take place. People who claim to live for themselves are nothing but selfish opportunist and I seen in my life these people do not go far.

we shd listen and respect others opinion and then collectively release our own decision :)

Syriaman - Share the link,make it easier for us.

FA - Exactly. I respect others' opinion.I'll stick to mine as well regardless of what others think & say. :p

STEVE JOBS has syrian father beleive or not up to you ... search his roots you find him arabic and from syria :P

PS, Everyone has their Personal Opinion...I'll Stick to mine, Won't Backtrack.... :)

FA - & of course i proved it to be true.

FA  with deeper understanding as well. You will never reach a conclusion about things unless u try to go deeper and analyze it. Observation is a simple thing,analyzing it is far way different and that's what i did.

PS, it was Just General Observation....

Slapper - It's soooooo long to discuss it over here & it would be hard to let people understand unless they read it themselves.

Slapper - U gotta read mental chemistry.

FA - I didnt label them as "super humans" Did i? Each of us can be great in our own way.

or become!

All the Soo called Great Man "are not Super Humans" ....They are from US......

Princess Sarah - you still not making sense. What is it about the way people think that determines their social well being?

Slapper - If u read about mental chemistry then u would know. There's something in common in every great man in the world & that's how they think.

Agree with HGL.... :)

Princess Sarah - please explain

Slapper - Because of the way they think..

PrincessSarah - ???? Why do good things happen to bad people Princess.??

Slapper - Are u shouting while saying my name?lol.

What i mean is,some people have to change their mindset.:p

PRINCESS SARAH - you say"Im wonderin' if others are really opening their eyes.;) When I was a kid,I wondered how bad people are having a good life while those who are good are in poverty..I found the answer now"and? What is this answer?

very true..

SS - A dog will never bark to his/her own self. It's always for other dogs. ;)

it's easy to bark in other's life and never mind their own..

Hemlata... I guess you don't know that you don't need to go abroad to be greedy...

ps, you are right...

It's easier said for those who are not in other people's shoes. It's easier to tell people that life is easy when u havent experienced hardships yourself.

fathimah, thanks alot..i'm humbled by your words..

Well, may be...

we must not rely on praying only..because GOD will not give us something if we don't work hard for it..you should not condemn someone for living our families behind because you don't know why we are here..it's an unfair statement for someone who is not our in situation..if we switch places, you will understand why we are here and not there...

Slapper - Im wonderin' if others are really opening their eyes.;) When I was a kid,I wondered how bad people are having a good life while those who are good are in poverty..I found the answer now.

Thank you both kindly and the feelings mutual. I actually find both of you to be very pleasant and well mannered ladies and both your contributions make great reads. Keep it up gals! xox

Maybe you're not praying hard enough. Some serious praying is well overdue for you.

is not fare...

Slapper... "In God's mercy on the man's work", but it's better in tagalog... "Nasa Diyos ang awa nasa tao ang gawa"...

Cupid - why doesnt your "God" provide you with the necessities of life?

Hemlata... In the Philippines an ordinary engineer/architect earns around QAR 1250... If you're married thinking that's enough to provide good education for your child well it isn't not included the housing, food, electricity, water & other expenses so if coming here in Qatar is just for greed then you must be living in a country which gives you very high income... I my self don't need to be here... I'm still single my father is earning so much more compare to me but I'm not planning to count on them for the rest of my life even though it's my parents advice to work here for my future, I wont be staying too long... I got my own dreams to pursue hopefully by next year I can file for my resignation...

OOps..dp

Obviously someone as usual is thinking that the world lives exactly and thinks exactly the same as few people in its abode... an advice to such sweeping statement makers...walk out of the house and see the world around in real, feel it to know how it works and how people behave and why they behave the way they behave...... making opinions based on gossips or the soap operas on tv arent the reality of life and the people....may be for you but doesnt apply across the spectrum.... oh and BTW some come here because there are no good jobs back home or this was the opportunity that knocked first and also need to discount the bachelors from the purview of greed as they have no families so to say as in context... how many remain now???.... get real, if possible, if I must say.

fathimah, as always i really like your views and opinions here in ql..worth every read..

FatimaH - Another great Steve Jobs in making. I really like your views. Cupid - I still say, your greed for money bring you here leaving family behind if at all you are not with the family. Who needs your sacrifices? A child needs parents, wife needs husband, and mother needs child. You leave every thing just to make money. You are not ATM  

FYI... Earning more than what you expect due to the profession you've chosen is not greedy but it comes with the talent & service an individual can provide... Though I'm not yet there but you can call me greedy if that's what you call a person who wants to learn & enhance one's skill for the path that he choose... Just like with Mr Jobs it's not his fault that his passion comes with plenty of greens...

Well said jobs and fathmah as well.:) xoxo

"just do ur udty to whoever matters" - I cant agree more. :) I believe in loving as much as I can esp.those who truly matters to me without forgetting to love myself in the process. I never tie my happiness to anybody, Im a firm believer that happiness is in me & I can either waste my time being lonely or be happy regardless of what others do,say & think. It's all in my hands. Plus, I love myself enough which made me not to trust others more than myself because I know what I want and it's me who knows who I am. :)

Being greed means getting more than what you need even if it means being unfair to others... Working hard for the people you love for a better life is not greedy that's what you call sacrifice...

Words to be Cherished

To achieve something follow what you really want,not what pleases others. We should all remember that to feel true happiness we must please ourselves. We can never expect a wonderful world without feeling wonderful internally & if u love & trust yourself enough then others can't hinder you.

You can never please people forever...just do your duty to whoever matters, love them as much as you should, but don't let any person determine your life and your happiness such that if they were to go you will feel you too can't go on!

ps, spot on..

indeed pappu..that's the unfair and sad reality about life..

they dnt realize it as its nt the harwork which gave them all this its just ther luck so they dnt know how to value what they have

pappu, yeah unfortunately it's really true..sometimes they are people who are so lucky that they (almost) have everything yet they don;t realize it..

no SS i have seen many people in my life who dnt work but achieve everything which in actual is not there achievement

if you want to achieve something..you have to work very, very hard for it and not wait for luck to take its toll..

I do believe that everyone can dream big regardless of who they are but of course it has to go with determination,courage and a positive thinking..

And Hemlata, you are talking of only ONE country whereas the work force here comes from other nations too like Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Phillipines. to name just a few.

By stating that they all come for the greed of money is degrading all the people from those countries and your own too.

Working for our love ones is living our own life because when we love people they became a part of us. They are parts of our lives. Sacrificing something out of love is a great thing and it doesn't mean that im living in somebody else's life because this is what i love to do because i love them. ;)

Hemlata - Not everyone comes for greed of money and yes even though everyone from any particular country is not here there are many who are here for the sake of their families.

Yes i do agree your qualification does decide your job profile. And it is certainly wrong to say that just because you are a manual labor you cannot dream for a better life. Your statement is derogatory to the labor force and to people in general. That is certainly a very degrading statement.  

You are wrong. People come here for greed of money. Population of India is 100 Million, not every one is here. They lead their life happily with their family with meager income. Your qualification decides your job profile. If you have no qualification, you are bound to be labor and can’t dream beyond that.  

it's true..most of the expats that's here in qatar have families leave behind..to give the family back home a nice, comfy, good life..they have to sacrifies everything and pray hard that everything will turn out well and someday they will be reunited with their love ones again..

One cannot live someone else's life but many expats come here only for the sake of their families. We sacrifice our dreams for our families back home. Many of us, given a choice, wouldnt be here but this is the best option for a large number of us toiling here. And here I mean largely the manual labor work force without whose contribution the country would not be able to grow.

We need manual laborers and cleaning staff and such like and I am sure many would love to be in a better position but are unable to because of their responsibilities and committments back in their homeland. Sad but true.

 (applause) ;)

I dont live in someone else's life. PERIOD. Let 'em say,think & do what they want. Guess people should know too how to mind their own life rather than talking BS about others. I mean,why cant they just live their lives rather than living in mine? Lol.

britey, i super agree with your statement..(wiping tears)

“Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. “..

Sadly, this is exactly what most expats do – because they  give up their lives for the betterment of their families..

iknow

His Last WordsiDead

agree with happy go lucky 

Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle

Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle

hgl, i like it..thanks..

Pick up any book, by even a not so well known author, on self development and it would say the same ......these words have been with us for so many years....an immediate reference could be the oft used words  "Öne life to live, live it to the fullest".... stretch it in all possible directions and you will see its all hidden within...

TFS