Worst families in 'sin bins' reduces Crime?

Exactly. So blaming immigrants isn't really appropriate here.

Exactly. So blaming immigrants isn't really appropriate here.

I believe they are mostly our versions of "trailer trash"

While it doesn't say this in the article I would hazard a guess that the families going into these "sin bins" aren't immigrant families.

Europe is on the verge of a shake-up...

Mark my words.

The problem also lies with the government for accepting many of these no value added immigrant in the country (are they illegal?) where they compete with the locals for jobs. Not only the social scheme have shaken up but the whole structure of the society have been moved. Indeed the creation of more jobs would be ideal in return for incomes taxes revenue for the government, however this is not the case as you see today.

Then the answer is finding better programs, not cancelling them altogether.

Immigrants in Europe are still suffering from what is called "cycle of poverty' if you were borne poor it is very likely your descendants will remain poor, only a very small percentage can break this cycle.

Unfortunately I foresee a bleak future for Immigrants in Europe as the whole of Europe is shifting politically to the right, meaning that countries will become more nationalistic.

Gypsy I know it wash written slightly harsh, but truly as long as European countries have too much social programs/welfare that cost billions each year, it will be used and abused by many.

lool @ part 2 ~

And where is Munna143 now ??? :P

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Poor FS and poor tread ...:(

Damn u Hijackers - rMs, Pajju and Pajju (part2)...:(

rooh baith and sleep ? la la. . sleep daahal makthab !!! :(

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rMs...

ya ya u r right.

FS will again make a new tread abt tat ANTI Hijacking stuffs (good for nothing tread)...:)

Badain Mods savvy PM kullish hijackers and miskeen hijackers badain rooh bait and sleep.....:(

stop hijacking this ! now FS will again start that ANTI-HIJACKING thread and mods get irritated and they start deleting posts .. mushkil mushkil... :(

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sorry Rizks i stopped hijack n all :)

Pajju and Genius ....:(

Can someone throw some water on me please....:(

WE WANT OUR OLD DUMB iLLETRATE PAJJU BACK.....:(

anyway my collegues are always complaining that they can't read my handwriting. If all geniuses have terrible handwriting, I must be a genius..lol

Rizks/rMS ok i stopped :)

Pajju is tat you ?

I mean is tat really your words or copy paste things ?

U cant be so educated .....:(

Now i kno, hu is using your prof !!! :)

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Harmagedon it’s called living in a society. Their objective is to make better lives for the generation currently developing. I would assume that there is scientific evidence that this type of intervention will reduce crime and lead to a better life for the children involved, by breaking the dysfunctional cycle.

Thats some compassion you have there Harmagedon. Do you also drown kittens and starve puppies?

Ridiculous all those efforts that are being made to 'help' those that refuse to take responsibility.

I say let them die, there will come a point they realize they need to contribute to society otherwise they will fade to black. Governments that do too much for the needy create a lazy layer in society that leans on social programs/welfare and will never learn how to survive themselves.

Use the money to protect those whom function properly within society.

genious ?

U notorious babbooon.....:)

lol u guys .. mod told me to be genious :)

Well it's nice to see we can agree on something then. :D

"In my opinion cut the amount of money going to welfare and redirect it into programs like this one."

I would agree to that :)

I disagree. I don't think the government does enough. While I do think that the welfare system is inadequate in the fact that it doesn't force the people on it to try and find work or provide training options, I don't think that Child Services ESPECIALLY Child Service in the UK is doing enough to protect children.

In my opinion cut the amount of money going to welfare and redirect it into programs like this one.

I regard myself as a "leftie", BUT I am getting fed up excuses being made for these so called dysfunctional families. In my opinion , the problem lies with our elected officials who bend over backwards to accomodate layabouts at the expense of hardworking and taxpaying middle classes.

I am sure that if their "benefits" were reduced or curtailed, they would fall into place pronto..

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i'm off to search for religious threads now..

No they won't, because the purpose of this is nip the cycle in the bud, teach the kids to be good people so they can teach their kids.

If govt does this, the next generation will also depend on the govt for upbringing/educating thier kids in a proper manner. It dont make any sense to me.

I would say calling a lot of these families morons is quite harsh too. Many of these parents never had proper parents themselves, were victims of abuse, neglect, etc. It's not easy to be a good parent or even a good person if you've never been around one.

Who else is going to do it? We elect them to take care of things like crime so if they see a way to stop crime at its roots, why not?

Is it really a role of the government to act as nanny to morons who can't get their lives together???

I think the idea is to put a stop to the things that cause kids to get involved in crime, ie lack of parental guidance and discipline. So ideally the younger you start the better. Basically from what I can see the governments going to step in and be a parent to both the parents and the kids, and hopefully instill some discipline in the kids and teach the parents to be parents.

I actually kind of like the idea, I can think of a few families back home that would really benefit from something like this.

Discipline! That's the order of the day..

Anyway, this project is "part of moves aimed at reducing youth crime", so I don't think we're talking babies here..

Hrrrrrrrrrrrph..

We really need to do a identity check on Pajju..all of a sudden he sound wise..lol dont sound like Pajju AT ALL

who only had 'lol' to say all these days..

Yeah Arien....lol ...RMS I also think so :)

yes, i really doubt some on is using his prof for the last three four days.. :)

FS, sorry for the hijack ! ;)

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Your going to send babies off to bootcamp?

Pajju boy is it you, all of a sudden you sound like a genius LOL

Brit , ask Khalid , he will advise a better solution to the government.

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The wishy washy, liberal, pinko, pc brigade always come uup with stupid, publicly financed schemes like these - And they don't work..

The simple answer is to hold these dysfunctional parents accountable for the actions of their offspring and send the kids off to bootcamp to learn some discipline..

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Angry from Doha

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think this plan is a problem. It isn't about helping the parents it's about helping the kids, and from my point of view this is a better alternative then shifting these kids off to dozens of foster homes.

move. UK is not only encouraging more and more parasites to come and feed off it's own hardworking citizens tax money but is also very passive aboutthe threats of crimes which is forcing people to even move to australia in large numbers.

Britani is headed in a wrong direction. It will soon see it's own people suffering at the hands of the foreigners.

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

I agree with you 100% and am also at a loss to understand why..

Either the government has a master plan we are not aware of, or like Canada , it is focusing on the "next generation" of these layabouts to become the taxpayers of tomorrow..

@ doc1970,one of the reasons it was nominated is because of the element of truth in that humour,i've mentioned this on another thread as well,the UK stands out in their government's welcoming of uneducated,illiterate,supposed political asylum seekers who rather than contribute to their growth feed of hard-working,tax-paying folks money in the form of benefits while they keep the door firmly shut or make it as hard as possible for educated,qualified people who will contribute to their economy...never been able to figure that bit,britexpat,any inputs mate?...

A Somalian arrives in London as a new immigrant to the UK .

He stops the first person he sees walking down the street and says........

'Thank you Mr. British for letting me in this country, giving me housing, money for food, free medical care, free education and no taxes!'

The passer by says, 'You are mistaken, I am Mexican!'

The man goes on and encounters another passer by. 'Thank you for having such a beautiful country here in the UK !'

The person says, 'I not British, I Polish!'

The new arrival walks further, and the next person he sees he stops, shakes his hand and says, 'Thank you for the wonderful Britain !'

That person puts up his hand and says, 'I am from Russia , I am not from Britain !'

He finally sees a nice lady and asks, 'Are you a British?'

She says, 'No, I am from Africa !'

Puzzled, he asks her, 'Where are all the British?'

The African lady checks her watch and says ..'Probably at work'

Exactly Brit...isnt there better things to do for Govt??

Actually it sounds like a good idea to me. It's not really about the parents so much as it's about giving the kids a better chance.

brit its Classic Fabian Socialism. if this doesn’t work, the next step is to put them out of their misery.

The government needs to stop catering fro these morons and focus on the needs of the majority..

I bet these people really, really hate the government.

More political correctness..

Why not just take their benefits away and make them clean the streets..