Would you be a “Sugar Baby” ?

If you claim that your poor and you have no choice but to take your chance to be be with a western man and then complain not to call you a Sugar Baby than what shall one call these kind of women, Sugar Candy?

I just took a biiiigggg yaawwwwnn reading all these comments ..

So.. who won England Vs Italy match?

Tinkerbell...do I? Guess not. Sometimes I may just go with the flow not to antagonise people but that doesnt mean I am into it...No way.

Ahhhhhh....HIM.....well.....:P

TB, I know whom You are Talking about. Poor Sugar Baby, Who will Pay Her Room Rent. I feel Pity on Her. :(

Now , according to the story, the guy spends around US$ 5000 a month on his "beloved".. That equates to about 20k QR..

So who can it be ?

Now TB that Sugar Daddy ..tell me tell me do I know him?

Gossips!!!

TB sure its Sugar Baby and not Sugar Princess..hehe

It's at times like this that I hate QL ;O(

Hmmmmmmmmmmm..

Now I know that UkEngQatar is going on vacation ,,, but who will be staying here ?

I never use 'all' while in such discussions where two extreme behaviors are quite possible. But since moza made an absolute statement, he/she left me no choice...:)

BTW why such contrasting examples when talking of Lebanese and Indians...one is living a high life and other is in the grave.

Getting back to the topic - Tinkerbell - DO TELL :O)

I didn't limit it to the Lebanese. I said let me tell that to my Lebanese neighbour who is living in a small 2 bedroom with his wife, two daughters and a maid and drives a VW and a BMW. He is most certainly not living within his means.

Neither are all the Qatari's who's debts are forgiven by the Emir every couple of years.

Neither are all the Indians who commit suicide over debt.

So I'm really not sure where you think Indians and Arabs are living within their means.

Moza... Who started the oddity: “the Indians and Arabs pay the money in advance for the sex”? Why blame me now.

@ MM....why would you say “Indians and Arabs live within their means ROFLING” and then limit it to Lebanese? BTW why not, I am an Indian and live within my means and my Qatari colleague at work also is the same.

So all these young women walking around with Iphone's, on a salary of QR1500 a month- look no further!

Mozai he means the Bedouin Arabs I guess?

Sugar Babies that the new name for Gold Diggers..

Look no further plenty around here. As Brit mentioned above there is plenty of hope for rich old men like Brit.

Which Arabs live within their means? Qataris? Lebanese? Your statement is really odd.

Indians and Arabs live within their means ROFLING. Remind me to tell that one to the Lebanese couple next door!

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nomerci... why shouldn't I believe in what I posted? I keep company with good people only.

moza...boyfriend???? No way...I am a straight guy ...:) And no I wasn't drinking when I posted... I did had some wine though when the England-Italy match started...:)

Prostitution has many subtle forms..this is one of them.

Prism have you been drinking or is your boyfriend beating you as you wrote that?

Prism, do you really believe what you just posted? If so, you might want to talk to some Indian/Arab women...some might have a very different story to tell.

Yep, and when money isn't there they (western men) throw the woman out of the window...Indians and Arabs seem to live within their means and don't harm no one, more dependable and straight forward in dealings, I guess...:)

Only be difference, western men pay the money after the sex, the Indians and Arabs pay the money in advance for the sex

BRIFFAULT’S LAW:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

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sugar daddy / baby - this arrangement is not very different from marriage (except, you can walk out of it anytime).

marriage gave men some assurance that the children they were raising were their own and women some assurance that their husband would not leave them all destitute.

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mozaismyhero - "Indians pay dowries to the men, Gulf Arabs have to pay it to the women.....

The answer is women cost money whatever culture you are in."

yes, and western men pay child support and alimony.

Personally I would never do it now, of course,because of my religious views and experiences, but years ago as a misguided and immature teen, who knows?

Women the world over do get married for various reasons. And some of them still do get married with financial security in mind. And I cannot say this is always a bad thing. I myself listed financial stability among other criterion when I chose a partner. And I had my reasons for this, and some people did perceive me then to be a bit of a gold digger though when I did explain to them my viewpoint they agreed!

IMO as long as the people in question are not hurting anybody, I would rather not try to play judge in this situation because frankly it's just one of those live and let live moments in life that calls for other people to just mind their own beeswax!

i would not mind

No doubt they would FS. But not many college students have that kind of money.

I worked two part time jobs in Uni and still would never have been able to afford my school fees, rent, clothes, food and entertainment.

MM the point is... if they had the money to buy clothes..fees and for their entertainments....they wont go such sugar daddies..they would look for some young hunks of their age...

To be honest Brit, who cares. I'm not doing it and if they are both happy with the arrangement then let them get on with it. I think the only time to draw the line is if someone is forced into marriage becauase of a family arrangement.

So , you are agreeing that both are acceptable in today's society..

Agreed, nothing new! The world was not destroyed by it, so let it be.

I think this was happening long before the 21st Century. Do you honestly think a fat ginger with a seeping smelly leg wound managed 6 wives and hundreds of mistresses because he was sexy? (Talking about Henry the VIII)

Not to mention all the other rich and powerful men (and women) throughout history.

I would say this kind of relationship is as old as you can get.

Its just a business transaction. No different from a poor family here marrying their attractive daughter to a rich/well conected family to get the benefits.

21st Century Prostitution... All businesses have to evolve in order to survive right?

At least they are doing something with the money... like collage... But the part with the boob jobs is just wrong... Even if i have the money, i would never pay for her boobs... i prefer them natural... even if they are small :)

You can't go out here without seeing some young girl on the arm of an older sometimes very over weight man..Sure it's not love keeping her there!.They are obviously both getting something out of it

I can count them on one hand TB! ;) And most of them are men. So I would actually hazard to guess that far more young boys do this than young women.

Oh I think you see it plenty here TB! I know of a couple of girls and boys who do it!

We dont have to play that poor and rich card...poor girls do it for that minimum to stay afloat and rich do it to get that prohibited stuff or just for fun cos mom dad arent giving them enough for it. Anyways, with casual s*x being the norm everywhere what is the harm in getting something in return in bargain....no point in sleeping with a boy with zero retrun...

You can't compare the girls you're describing with the one's in Brit's post TB. It's two entirely different sets of circumstances and cultural backgrounds.

The girls Brit is talking about are fully aware of what they are doing, and they aren't being pressured into it.

They are like lisa morsi. Rizk bought her a new bra!

They are both using each other and both getting something out of it..Who knows their reasons for it..

"Well, lets see....finish school $50,000 in debt (more in the States)" What wrong with these countries? Can't they give their citizens education for free like Germany?

Oh I don't think there eyes are entirely open. I don't think they think of the long term repercussions on their self esteem and sense of self worth...but hey, who does when they're 19?

Which case mentioned Tink? The one Brit posted doesn't mention the backgrounds of either sugar baby....

PROSTITUTION at its best....

I agree that I believe it's wrong.. BUT, I disagree that the girls don't know what they are doing. They go into it with their consent and their "eyes" wide open ..

Well, lets see....finish school $50,000 in debt (more in the States), try and work part time at minimum wage and do your homework to afford basics like clothes, food and the occasional night out, not to mention rent in some mouse ridden apartment you're sharing with 5 other people....

Or sleep with some old man and get trendy clothes, nights out, free school + a nice apartment & travel....

Ummmm......I can see how its appealing.

Old men will always search for young girls! and Old ladies will search for young boys!

There are many other ways to get the money, Why become a social prostitute!

As the website suggest .. Its an "arrangement".. Win / Win for both sides..

I don't know, ingeniero, FS. I am discussing everything from a theoretical and relativistic point-of-view.

MM..the colleges in cities in my country..its more like watching FTV..:)

What's bad about it? The men know what they're getting into, and the girls are old enough to make their own decisions.

disgusting

There are many other ways of making money by doing part time job...this is probably the easiest way!!

Yes its bad!!

LP ..do you really think they are doing it for paying their fees?

Jeez. Most girls at my Uni wore sweat pants and t-shirts to class. The teachers were lucky if we brushed our hair.

LP, So we can safely say that girls of Germany and some other countries where education is free won't be searching Rich Oldies?

Is what they're doing bad? It's opportunistic yes, and a bit naive, but I don't think its necessarily bad.

When they see rich girls in college wearing expense clothes and shoes they get attracted to thier lifestyle and these try to act like them.. for that they do anything..

uniforms should be made mandatory in college...:)

I know this because, we used to have these poor girls(financially backward community) who come to our college with govt financial Aid..the money they get as stipend is just enough for their minimum requirements...they didn’t have good clothes or accessories like other girls….there was a nearby beauty parlor.. The lady there used to lure them to go out with men for one latest fashion dress or shoes..and finally …some of us took initiate to bring it to the attention of the college management and that beauty saloon was closed down..

Okay, but "study years aren't master years." In that case, they are all spoilt through TV and movies.

I don't think it is as simple as that.. I think that many of these girls don't want to sacrifice a lifestyle whilst they study ..

Remember when we studied ? Oil lamps, beans on toast and one pair of jeans :O(

Nobody is "bad" without reason. Education is the right of every citizen (that's why they pay taxes). But the British government is not able to provide free education at university levels (unlike in Germany, for example). What are they doing with the tax-payers' money?

High costs of schooling Brit,

They are the most naive and inexperienced at that age, as well as the most easily led.

This has been going on for ever though. It's just now they have websites dedicated to it.

Brit, in which part of the world are these 40% girls from?

brit, because the government fails to provide free education! Now, blame it on the government.

Brit.. Man, just go and grab one .. or do you want me to help you chose one of those sugar babies.. enough with the "research" ..LOL :P

If you look at the figures, over 40% of the girls registering are college / university students. Why is this ?

LOL .. FS, thats why i said there are "chances" :P

1 of those sugar babies might get it ;)

Men - Prostitution for pleasure

Girls - Prostituion for money

CL...part of wealth for all those sugar babies they were sleeping around? lol

Old man retirement pension funds for charity or pleasure.

These girls are smart, they know these old men are going to die soon and chances are they might get part of their wealth before or after their death .. these girls don't lack anything except dignity

So, are all of you lazying around at home, nothing to do at all? Or is this all in between work? Sorry, noob here.

But it still is applicable cos any age would include early 20s, No...:(

Brit..if there are no takers? offer wont be valid...

You are blaming the men, but surely it is the girls who must shoulder the bulk of the blame. They are the ones who are "offering" themselves on such sites ..

Gold diggers can be of any age... sugar babies should be in early 20s..and Gold mine should be more than 60 yrs old!!

FS, what is that _________ (fill the blank starting with C)?

I think we call them gold diggers on QL, isnt it? But 'sugar babies' sounds more sophisticated...:)

"such men". What do you mean with that? Or, what was first? Such men or those women?

Guess this has been there for ages, hidden in the dark closets. Just has become trendy and 'in public' now. Not my choice, but it might be socially okay if it doesn't harm anyone.

Good justification for prostitution...

LP...they still do it for free clothes and implants? as long as such men exist..

All old men should be ___________!! end of story...

Lol CL, there might be some daddies.

A valid point. However, would you than categorise a lady in in late twentiers as "sugar baby" ?

Is there any lady, who could sponsor me .. I'm ready to be your stay-at-home partner... will do all the laundry, cleaning and cooking.. All you need to do is let me watch Euro cup in peace and pay my expenses.

So, the education system is the culprit! If education was free, there would be no sugar-babes.

I was amused by the comment that "compared walking into a room with Monte to pulling up in a really nice car"

So, for some, it is a status symbol :O)

Brite, I was searching something on babies and found sugar babies. I have heard about sugar daddies as you said but I was bit curious and opened one link and I found even the story of the Tomy and Monte.

To each their own Brit, but I've never considered implants to be the hallmark of sophistication.

Neither are trips to the Caribbean....

However, if some dude wants to pay for me to backpack through Cambodia and get my Master's degree WITHOUT expecting sex in return....well.....

How do you know about these :O)

There are so many dating sites for sugar daddies and sugar babies.

Disguised prostition.... but then again you could consider all dating that. Indians pay dowries to the men, Gulf Arabs have to pay it to the women.....

The answer is women cost money whatever culture you are in.

never thought of it.

It could help you become a sophisticated and "classy" woman :O)

Ummmm....no thanks.