Co-expats,,,let us all respect dress code

ROFL ..

I heard the S dropped off the yellow speedos and that's is why they are hardly worn....

With the dress code coming in, I am also throwing in a pair of yellow Speedos - Hardly Worn :O(

Brit's pink thong is for sale!!! check the QL classifieds ;)

Does this code thing also apply to Dukhan beach as well? Because I was there yesterday and saw a good number of Bikini women O:

MIMH good try but I don't wear that kind of your dress unless I am attending a Fancy dress party, Last time I wore that kind of dress was with a Beard pretending to be OBL. Yes I was thrown out by the Guards ...

Well UKEng, don't try to go to Aspire in your National dress as the security guards will throw you out.....

Britexpat I am not too worried about the Speedo's I am more worried about wearing my Kilt to the Caledonian Ball later this month..:)

Xena...if wearing something which can be considered unacceptable and can get someone into problem just cos of ignorance I guess it is better that they be informed.

Anyways, seems like these days the focus is on dress code for men and not for women so dont see much of an issue and also soon seems it will be not an issue at all, wear or not wear anything would be the norm....:)

people need to be told (or reminded) but the decision still lies on the person whether to adhere or not.

its been said before and I'll say it again... people do not need to be told how to dress. Period!

Does this mean that we can no longer wear Speedos at the Corniche ?

I heard that you can not go to Aspire Park Fully Dressed!

Yes its true. You can not go to Aspire in your national dress, which applies to most countries in the Sub-continent.

They are also stopping men who are wearing shorts above their knee. WTH, what next they want us all to have beards?

Someone at the Aspire Park is really taking the dress code a bit too far!

Wedding dresses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_dress

"Cloth was invented to protect our delicate skin from the elements. Mostly the cold, wet and sun.

Now we have sun block, air conditioning, etc, and the need for clothes is not as pressing as it once was".

Wonder where does the painful shopping of the expensive wedding gown(s) fits into this narration...just be naked and donate that to some deserving people of the countries in need.

And cannot get why the OP's opinion is taken so personally and OP name called...isnt there a possibility of atleast one QLer who needs to be told of that, a new QLer who is not part of QL since its birth or 5 YEARS minimum!!!

off the board has nothing to do with wanting to dress in unsuitable clothes....

For me, its more due to the fact of.... "Who the H E L L do you think you are?" You are not my mother to tell me what to do.

I am not an unreasonable dresser, so don't come on here and try instill your ideals on me - I am an individual person who dresses decently... so get off your high horse and back off...

Thanks for that info Genesis... We knew that there wasn't anything of the sort in the articles, as yet.... however some people here, like to make stuff up.... one wonders why they don't censor themselves.

I must say I am not turned on with men wearing skimpy shorts! :( (I'd rather see them naked, but hey, it's just me ;) ... LoL

Genesis is this advisory council the same as the one proposed for election in 2005 and was postponed ever since?

As far as i know this campaign started in Dubai and was a response to the ban that has been done in some European countries in relation to the niqab. A group of women in Dubai and Qatar now have risen to demand that if you do not allow them to dress niqab there in your countries so why should they allow you to wear short clothes in here...

Well genesis, let us know what they decide in 2013, and I'll make sure I pack the proper clothes when I come over so I don't get arrested. Till then, people need to stop b***hing.

Literally what you wrote was true, the current law is vague , but not anymore

Last week the ministries council Headed by the prime minister approved a series of laws as preparation for the upcoming Advisory council election in 2013, as follows

1- A draft decree to specify the electoral districts of the Advisory Council, and indicate the areas of each district and the number of members who are elected for each of them.

2 -A daft Emiri decision on the establishment and formation of an adhoc committee to assign the permanent address of the voter, and the determine its assignments and procedures to be followed .

3 -A draft decision of the Minister of Interior on the ballot system at the state's embassies and consulates abroad to elect members of the Advisory Council.

This by default will be followed by the establishment of the constitutional court. Once established, future MPs can easily demand the implementation of a dress code in accordance to article 57 of the constitution

a choice of what you perceived is right and what the society you live is right. One must be sensitive also as to the place where she live. Local culture, traditions and beliefs plays a big part of the daily life and one should CHOOSE what is acceptable to the society as a whole.

Cloth was invented to protect our delicate skin from the elements. Mostly the cold, wet and sun.

Now we have sun block, air conditioning, etc, and the need for clothes is not as pressing as it once was.

Covering in light fabrics is a good idea to protect you from the sun though. If you do.n't want to use sun block.

I agree with Cartian...no expats r forced here yo wear abayas or hijabs...but just demanding to wear decent dressing...like not to reveal almost everything...i have seen many expats wearing summer casuals in a decent way....

Summer collections r not so exposed ...unless you really think of getting so noticed in public by some kinda exposure...:)

I think most of defending freedom of choice not wether to be naked or not.

lol...why most are defending to go naked when in the first place cloth was invented to cover up....:) Atleast help those guys in or related to the textile industry to be in business by wearing clothes...:) Anyways, it is always a funny sight to see a girl draped in clothes made out of cloth equivalent to my handkerchief and a man in three piece suit sufficient to drape atleast 100 of such girls....:)

Again , you are distorting the facts.. It's not invation, It is Invitation...

cartian.. How could you betray your own expat community and tell them what to wear .. OR to respect the country's culture where they live ??

What's that? Invade another country and then leave the country bankrupt?

There is a third way.. (As Tony B-liar said)

"Tell the expats exactly what is required of them. They will know the boundries and happily stay, because most are here for the money. This is happening in Saudi"

Wear what you want. There's no laws against it.

Just giving my opinion, its not up for me to decide the direction of the country but I can see the consequences of the different paths if taken.....

policy-maker here? You are giving options to who?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are two options.

1. Embrace a multi-cultural society and what other cultures bring with them and enjoy the wealth that is generated by all these expats working here.

or

2. To keep a homogeneous society. Send most of the expats home, keep a minimum to run the O&G industry and accept a lower standard of living. (although it will still be high compared to most of the world)

We Filipino's have the so called PDOS before leaving the country. PDOS by the way is the acronym for - Pre Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar. Basically it's a 5 to 8 hrs semminar and you have to sit listening to the speaker discussing Do's and Dont's awareness of the country where your going. A handbook will be distributed at the end of the seminar containing all the information you need to know about the specific country you are moving.

So flor is right, some maybe are not documented and some were just tripping.

just for your info about Filipino's.

you hit the bull's eye! Precisely the worries of Qatar is not far-fetched.

I think you better start praying then. Lots of people from very different cultures decending on Qatar for four weeks of what they call fun. They will not understand that their behaviour is offensive to you as well as they will be shocked that it is offensive in the first place. Especially stay away from any Brazil games as you will find those ladies the seeds of Satan.

I really respect you

Thank you & all expatriate who respects the all benign habits of ppl

And not only clothing but also some of the outrageous behavior!

If 2022 brings all the outrageous, we pray that is not World Cup 2022 in qatar

I agree with jArsOfclAy. Everyone can say whatever he/she wants to say...

and hey i somehow agree with the cartian. At least I agree that we have to respect the place where we live.

That's a sweet gesture by the Philippines government or local bodies, but I don't think it could be a prerequisite by Qatar government to land a job in Qatar. Also I have never heard of any such seminar that other nationals have to go through before taking the flight to Qatar for employment. Anyway, thanks for the info.

in our country. It's short for Pre-Departure Orientation and all legitimate Overseas Filipino Workers pass through this seminar before getting a go signal for deployment.

It is specifically part of the orientation about respect for the culture of the country of deployment specifically, the dress code.

Now if you see some "violating" such thing, either they are not documeneted OFW (they did not went through the orientation) or did not understand it or they love tripping on the line of what is the limit.

Cartain: Of particular concern is your wording of "them" and "us" and "we". How can we ever be united as one when you drive these wedges through our beautiful Qatari society?

Just to clarify , Article 57 of Qatar constitution states "Respect for the Constitution, abiding by the laws issued by the public authorities, abiding by public order and public behaviour, following the national traditions and norms is the duty of all residing in the State of Qatar"

There is no penalty per se over dress code in Qatar criminal code , however the penal code is open to interpretations in terms of What can be considered as "indecency in public"

Guys you scared her away :)

I think those who don't like revealing clothes are free to lower their gaze and guard their modesty. I don't see any reason why should the ruling be enforced on someone whose employment contract did not include a clause on dress code. You were fully aware of the person's cultural background before hiring, didn't you? Like you knew the guest before inviting him/her to your house. Nevertheless, I am with cartian in respecting the local culture and traditions as far as possible.

Love Mr Deity!

Mandi

Have you met Mr Deity?

I think the best way to run the campaign is this:

Employ a number of people to make random phone calls to expats. The caller can draw attention to the problem immediately by starting the conversation by asking "what are you wearing?" or "Are you naked right now?"

This will certainly raise awareness convince everyone that there is nothing at all perverted with this culture's obsession with sex and sexuality.

People will dress how ever they like..They have got to deal with the stares or enjoy the stares..Let them get on with it!..

lolzzz

I have been on QL for 5 years 13 weeks and nothing shocks me anymore.

Take it seriously? NOPE...won't even lose sleep over it.

Sorry double posting..

Common you guy's, don't take it too seriously...everyone is free to say what they think is right..

But really, i saw 1 cry baby leave this room..lol

See Azilana, the problem is that you guys take things said here very seriously.

I am sorry but to me, most people here are just about gossip and I kid you not that any time I am on this site, I just am laughing so hard when I read stuff.

Some characters in here are so hilarious..My fav is that midget flor. His choice of words and logic crack me up!

a member for some 30 odd weeks with posts asking for loans and visa matters...

coming up with this kind of (overly discussed) topic telling others how to dress...THIS TOPIC IS WAY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE, sweetie.

Telling Qlers who have been here in Qatar for more than 5 years in a pompous and arrogant attitude towards the other posters? tsk tsk tsk

There's an 'educated' way of imparting information and discussion...and your/this replies are not only CHILDISH but lacking of "good netiquette"...

You don't like what my opinion...TOUGH LUCK, KID...so BITE ME!!!

If you have something to say, say it to my face, not behind my back. Do your thing. Be what you are. If you don't know what you are, Go & find out.

I just saw 1 cry baby exit QL..What just happened?:)

We have to honour the dress code of the place where we are living. Otherwise, problem is for us only.

thanks no thanks.

Thank you carting for your most sensible decision. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Narrow minded are those the impose their ideas and beliefs on others

yup i think its better to cut it off. thanks to all of you!

What a waste of a College Education!

To me revealing means you can see her nipples or you can see his nut saq.

It is a hot country in here.. I mean what do you expect people to wear a coat? Should I wear long sleeve ? And girls? there are like 5 girls in all Qatar, what should they wear?

'i wont waste my time nor my energy'

Your best decision yet.

:)

post on QL coming on to tell us what we can and cannot do....

Ms Cartian... if you were on QL for longer periods... you would know how talked to death this topic is and how boring it has become...

Please go back to your CEO's office and give your staff orders instead!

i wont argue with some narrow minded & disrespectful expats. i wont waste my time nor my energy :)

'To MarcoNandoz-01

What?! cant understand you?! kindly look for a dictionary or rather google for a correct spelling & words & as well as proper sentence.'

Says the woman whose grammar and punctuation is appalling.

Please do not preach, who gave you the moral authority? The way you dress perhaps.

I think we have more important things to worry about like dead kids in vilaggio and people dying in Syria than a sexist law that oppresses women who show a knee. Ah a knee! the collapse of civilisation.......

thanks britexpat :) Coz me as an expat get confused sometimes while strolling around some other places here, as it was very shocking for me to see wearing a very revealing clothes in public areas in the middle east. Ive been to Dubai for 6 yrs & moved here recently in Doha and almost same behavior ive seen, same scenario. Im not sure if im just such a really good follower or ive just studied much of there rules before deciding coming & living in the middle east country. But what is good Im pretty sure I'm not offending the local people here as this is their home country.

I just find your attitude rather preachy, telling people what to do. We all know the rules.

And as you said, it's none of your business.

You then go on to cast aspersions on peoples' moral character or, at the very least, being uneducated in that respect.

Do you enjoy telling people what to do? Does it give you a thrill? Yes, we must all be like you. How have we all lived this long without hearing your divine pronouncements?

And what about the locals travelling aboard. They must respect the Non-Abayah culture and take their Hejab off?

I would agree with your sentiments and I believe that the vast majority of expatriates are sensitive to this and dress accordingly.

HOWEVER, Qatar itself has chosen a path of change and this change will bring about conflicts between the old and the new. The simple fact is that once the change is initiated, it is impossible to go back ..

Qatar in 10 years will be a far different place then it is today..

To MarcoNandoz-01

What?! cant understand you?! kindly look for a dictionary or rather google for a correct spelling & words & as well as proper sentence.

its all about respecting other beliefs,culture & rules of the people where you we are living in the moment. its like visiting somebodys house, you cant just do whatever you wanted to do or the normal behaviour you do in your own house.

conservitives nut jobs will never be happy unless you are covered from head to toe.

Am I talking with a kid?! Simple rules cant follow, every country have there own rules & restrictions.

was "Good moral conduct" allied to covering knees and shoulders?

So are you saying that when you return to your home country and (shock!) bare your shoulders you become an immoral entity, lacking in all goodness and a danger to society?

it seems there are a some people who did not study very well in school their "GMRC"- "Good moral & right conduct"

It won't happen

no worries just1s: it seems your an educated person. we are all entittled for our opinion. hope if there are changes happening here as the FIFA comes fast approaching, we are all well inform.

It maybe none of my business but I wont be surprise seeing a lot of ladies here caught in the streets or other public areas. Its a QATARI penal Code Law punishes & prohibits wearing revealing indecent clothing "shoulders & knees should be cover. , its in article 57 of Qatar Constitution. No wonder why they are about to tighten the law as there are so many offenders now a days!

in addition with INFO.RE.Qatar, my opinion with regards with FIFA 2022, Qatar government is aware of those changes since they bid and won to hold the said event such changes includes dress code,,, liquor for public etc....

They should understand that this is just the beginning of those changes.. I have nothing against you Cartian its just an opinion.

cartian : what other people choose to wear in public is nothing of your business.

And Yes 'if you don't like it you can leave'

An expat spouting 'if you don't like it you can leave'

And may I just remind you........ not all of us just got off the boat yesterday.

As long as you are in Jungle or having shower, it's ok adey and irq :)

its all about etiquette and manners, guys. we are not living in our own place!

May I just reminded you...i came also from a country where you can wear what ever you want or bare it all what ever you can. But you are not living in your own country now, you are in the middle east where revealing of too much skin are prohibited. If you can t handle it better to go back to your own country, run naked & wear nothing!

If it is, just forget the FIFA 2022, it will not accept your dress code anymore

I'm naked at this very moment!