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No problem... I'll be happy to translate more... :-)

I'll try and get new ones as well, as some of these are old

In fact somewhere I have a cartoon depicting the world's view of us in the UK when we first got the 2012 Games and it was far more offensive, and even MORE true than the cartoon doctor posted.

If I can find it I'll put it up here. Actually I think it was a slide show likening previous Cities which had held the games to how London be as a host. London was all graffiti and slums lol

You see that red double-decker at the closing of the Games in Beijing? I heard a guy on BBC say it may be more fitting at the opening of the games in 2012, for the lid of the bus and the doors to fly off in an explosion and then the athletes run out of it. Now that WAS 'sick' ! lol

That's right Tig. If you're Qatari you need that on QL.

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I like these cartoons. They confirm what I have always thought - Qataris have a good sense of humor and have the ability to laugh at themselves as well as at others. I see nothing offensive about them at all.

Post some more please with the translations.

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about

nobody should be offended by any of the cartoon even if it sends chill to some. Let us remember that the recent situation here in local news is about that Qatari student and the cartoon is just part of current events.

It's the same things as security bulletins issued by certain countries to a certain country regarding warning to their citizens regarding security threats on a specific country. Its sounds offending to many but we just have to ignore it as part of their work.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

like the cartoons published in Arabic newspaper. find them way much funny.

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thexonic, yeaps, good idea but no funny context, try checking the monty python classics i added on my post ;)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

oh god, I bet I can write better comics than these people. What a waste of talent. Probably even cookie monster is better at it lol.

J/k, no need to get offended. The humor is crap, but the concept is good. But then these cartoons are not made for humor anyways...

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(Lebanon A piece of Heaven on Earth)

Cartoon no 1 really reminds me when i had arrived in Doha and used to see its map quite a lot but being inside the air conditioned room. I did not have the residence ID so could not have my own car and have a license before hand.

One day i intended to go to have a look at the sea site as i thought that the seas may be as attractive as a Red sea in jeddah. I took a bus but got the wrong one from LULU hyper market, it dropped me at some unknown place. I had to walk a lot in great heat to reach some other place to find another bus, it was really unforgettable memory.

I managed to reurn in the evening to my apartment wihout suffering heat stroke :-).

i am, go check my post :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

No! And I thought you were a monty python fan...

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....

Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency....

Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...

and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....

Our four... no...

Amongst our weapons... Amongst our weaponry...

are such elements as fear, surprise...

And so it goes..

lol, you mean this:

;)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Remember them all well..

Used to watch all the Monty Python on TV.. Then I saw some of them again a couple of years ago and they seem so dated..

but you mor3e than anyone should realise that "NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION"..

benny hill is a buffoon....was a....

i'm gonna make a post with links to some funny youtube clips.

Brit: remember benny hill? :D

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

These clips are part of a live act by Monty Python:

will post more in a bite

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Brit: ahahahahahahahah, one of the funniest movies i saw, i'll add some links on you tube that show the funniest scenes :)

I can also add some clips from The meaning of life, what do you think?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Perhaps you need to have a look at Monty Python's Life of Brian..

I just would like to state that there's a slight difference between cartoons, the danish cartoons made thousands of people going to the street protesting and threatning to kill the authors, how many british did the same due to these caricatures?

So, i think british are more tolerant, wanna bet that if i put here a caricature with Jesus no one will threaten me to death? or that there wont be folks concentrating to protest against them?

What this world needs most is sense of humour :)

Plse do note, i ain't attacking Islam or any other religion, it would be fun if people would post more drawnings as these ones without fear.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Fair enough, I don't want to drag QL down any further than it already has been over the past couple of days, so I wont push it any further. All I say is I don't see why religion is off bounds while other topics are ok even though they have an equal ability to offend.

Thanks again for sharing the cartoons Doctora, it's nice to gain an insight into an aspect of Qatar life I don't get to experience.

I must agree with Doctora.. We don't want to go that route, but can discuss the use of cartoons for satire and lampooning in general..

if you both are soo keen to talk about them open another thread and you will find a lot of people to argue with

thanks for correcting me...yes danish cartoons

sorry but are they supposed to be funny? What a strange sense of humour someone has.....I just don't get it!!

OK i will be deliberately ignoring any comments about the Prophet's cartoons..although i'd prefer if we'd call them the danish cartoons....

if you want to talk about the above cartoons be my guest but don't compare it with the danish cartoons

Weren't they danish cartoons? Anyway.

I don't understand why they can't be compared, but you're obviously not prepared to talk about.

Mr Paul has a point. Why is religion off limits to stereotyping cartoons? Some people may be offended by the cartoon of the prophet, but equally some people may be just as offended by the london cartoon above.

stereotyping different cultures and nationalities, which is wrong.

Like i said, SOME people may find this profiling of Londoners and Britain offensive, just as the Muslim population found that idiot dutchmans cartoons offensive.

You see my point ?

And just for the record, although i believe in freedom of speech, i do think that dutch man overstepped the mark.

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

didn't you write this or am mistaken????????????

((When the dutch showed those cartoons of mohammed, the muslim world was in uproar, and now this stupid idiot draws this....

This may just inflame the already tense muslim/anti muslim feelings...))))

what has this cartoon have to do with religion??????? what mulism/anti muslim feelings???????

you will never understand our feelings about the prophet (Peace be upon him) unless you are a muslim...so PLEASE DON'T OPEN THIS DOOR AGAIN.....I don't want any fights with you or with anyone else.....

cos if yer do, your going the right way about it.

Where in my post did i slag off your prophet ? Nowhere, so dont even try to put words in my mouth.

The dutch printed something that SOME people found offensive.You have posted something that SOME people may find offensive.

There is no difference.

Both are typical stereotypes, and both are wrong.

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

Yes, it is unsurprisingly blocked by qtel. You're not missing much though.

If you could please translate this word into english, i couldn't quiet get it right..

تحفص عليه

I cannot access this site!! Am I the only one here ?? or is it really blocked by QTel

I (and many Qataris) did not find the UK cartoon any offensive, on the contrary, we found it hilarious and funny.

It shows the THUGS in UK that people will encounter. is that a generalization?? no, it's a CARTOON, the man is not entitled to show each stereotype (good or bad) in a cartoon....maybe you found it offensive because it is from a QATARI

MR PAUL and RENEE don't even hint to (Prophet Mohammed) cartoon and compare it with the UK cartoon , don't go into this area or it this thread will be an ugly thread!!

...this criticism on cartoons'll never be there.

But then again...

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

renee- Have you noticed that I and the other Qataris who have tolerated so much crap thrown our way on these forums never have called for the death of those making those racist ignorant comments? Oh forgive me, I forgot that the actions of some Qataris will represent me and all the other Qataris to you guys.

Doctora - Good post! Some funny stuff there.

Some of the user comments on qatarsucks are pretty offensive though!!!

I didn't see the comment, but unless there are facts given to back up the claims about the Islamic museum then yes, that is offensive. Again, without seeing the comment it's hard to judge, but it sounds quite specific rather than generalising or stereotyping.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't find for instance Qatarsucks.com offending, since the guy always cover stories that are in the media already. But here, when someone like "rami-leb" call the Islamic museum a failure, & corrupted , although it's not yet opened. Thats not generalization, or is it?

Agree with you there.. Having worked in various countries in the Middle East and else where, I can say that my personal experience is that Qataris are very easy going and accomodating.

Expats always whine. Especially those who haven't been to many other countries. There are morons in all societies, so we have to learn to live with them

Well, I guess this is a good example of how different people interpret things differently and some get offended and some don't. So perhaps we can now better understand why some Qataris get upset at the generalisations and stereotypes being talked about on QL, while others are able to shrug it off and laugh at themselves.

i find the cartoon distasteful. Plus i couldn't figure out what the middle guy present. Assuming the other two are skinheads & punks.

The cartoon may have been inspired by the sad incident, but the stereotype of hooliganism and drunken violence has been around for decades.

Sorry , I must disagree..This is sensationalizing. If the cartoon was about binge drinking or the stupid Gordon Brown etc , I would be happy with it..

This is taking a sad incident that occurred and making London out to be full of violent people..

Yesterday, a girl was killed in a drive by shooting in Chicago.. Woulkd a cartoon showing Chicago with drivers shooting left right and centre be appropriate. I think not!

I don't find the London cartoon offensive. It's just using a well known British stereotype, something that cartoons do all the time about subjects and countries all round the world. Indeed, most of the ones in the link ngourlay posted do exactly the same.

As with all stereotypes though, both positive and negative, we know that they don't apply to the entire population.

btw, good to see you're still around ngourlay.

Heh. I like the olympic cartoon. Reminds me of a competition b3ta held a while ago to design the London mascot (some are rude, sorry). Here's my favorite, Stabby the knife:

http://www.b3ta.com/board/8476877

And here are the rest:

http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/olympicmascot/

force1 - it's not that doctora doesn't understand Arabic, it's the translation into English that she understandable found hard.

Have you noticed that none of us “ignorant” "racist" "leeches" ex-pats have called for the death of the cartoonist...

I don't think the analogy works..

However, I do find the cartoon offensive and inappropriate because it depicts a picture of the UK which is untrue. I am saddened by the loss of the young life, but it dioes not mean that London is a city rife with violance and murder..

Here the Cartoonist is playing on the grief and anger of a nation and trying to get brownie points from them.

Giving the assumption thaty all Brits are weapon weilding,violent yobbos.

How offensive do ya think some people will find it doctora.

When the dutch showed those cartoons of mohammed, the muslim world was in uproar, and now this stupid idiot draws this....

This may just inflame the already tense muslim/anti muslim feelings...

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

Good one, all you make

... there are probably more Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Romanians, Greeks and Australians in London than there are Brits these days!!

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Baldrick - Qatar's answer to Google ;o)

If the London one was done by a Brit, highlighting problems with the Asian Games there'd be uproar!

I just put a spin on it to show that us Brit's don't give a rat's arse who takes the piss out of us.

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very funny!

what do you mean not understand much arabic? care to elaborate ?? i could not understand your point

I loved the cartoons. Thank you for sharing. The insight into your culture is appreciated.

Cartoons are used to make a statement either through humour or otherwise.

The first cartoon is making a statement, but to me is not funny.

I was a former newspaper cartoonist myself and I can say it is funny.

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

the cartoons are great but howcome you are qatari but don't seem to understand much arabic

hahaha

Brilliant

hahaha that was funny and scary =S

Doctora i used your translation to for this cartoon..

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Thanks Qatar!!

i will try and translate more inshalla

Love them I am going to send this link to all my chums.

Thanks for taking he trouble to translate... hilarious

it shows the racist in you?

what ???cannot accept criticism of your own country??? now you are making fun of other ARABS ???? those 3 people in the cartoons are your kind, couldn't you recognize them ???!!!!

Doctora - thanks for posting them. But there's a difference between being able to laugh at yourself and being able to accept criticism (not that I think Qataris aren't able to do either).

If it is meant ironically, it would be funny. I just didn't read it with my "ironic" antennas on.

Another instance of profiling / stereotyping

The guy on the left is obviously an Egyptian butcher (no shirt)

The guy in the middle is a Saudi (matching track suit pants & top and gold tooth).

The guy on the right is sooooo Lebanese (too much jewelery and dyed hair.

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the 1st one is TODAY's cartoon by the way 28/8/2008

maybe he made it in response to the Qatari kid who was killed in UK

Read my previous remark

i see that you speak a little arabic then you can see his other Cartoons?no?

Doctora, I live here with my family since 1993. We are loved and respected by all our Qatari friends to an unmeasurable extent. We do love and respect these Qataris to the same extent. But I didn't like the first cartoon too much. Maybe, I misunderstood it.

I don't know tallg maybe famous in Qatar only

Magic dragon : he have hundreds of cartoons, unfortunately these are the ones i could translate right, I'm not a translator...

at least i made an effort show you a side of Qatari you never knew (as there are people here who accuse us of not tolerating criticism), what have you done to understand my culture?????????????????????

ana asef, where's the fun here?

Nice one! Is this cartoonist famous, or just well known in Qatar?

Yes! They show that Qataris worry about the same basic things as expats.. We would probabaly have the same in the UK..

and you think that's funny?