Qatari students victims of racial attack
The British embassy yesterday said the mission was sorry to hear the report of two Qatari students allegedly falling victim to a racial attack in Scotland.
According to reports, the students were abused and attacked by two Scottish youth while they were waiting in a queue to collect their tickets for an entertainment show.
An embassy spokesperson said: “We were sorry to hear these reports. Happily a lot of people travel from Qatar and indeed from the region, to the United Kingdom. The vast majority tell us that they have enjoyable and trouble-free visits. But on the rare occasions when people have problems (or indeed when Britons in Qatar run into difficulties) we work with our colleagues in the Qatari embassy in London and in both governments to tackle them.”
A local Arabic daily said one of the victims called them to narrate their horrific experience. “We were brutally beaten up and racially abused by the hooligans,” the paper quoted one of the victims as saying. The students, he said, have met Qatar’s ambassador to the UK and lodged a complaint.
A group of white South Africans recently killed a black lawyer because he was black. That was wrong. They should have killed him because he was a lawyer.
This could be an isolated case. These scottish guys should be showing good examples of being developed and civilised
hhahaha go ahead...
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Don't worry, we'll start the physical violence.
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Amoud said Glad to see compassion is ...
Glad to see compassion is still alive.
I dunno, some people are just miserable, what can I say. We expatriates whine all the time about how we hate being treated inferior and how they locals and arabs alike are "barbaric, backward and uneducated" for behaving in such a manner with never a hint of physical violence.
i think physical violence is not as bad as being treated inferior
I was referring to UKEng if you noticed. My post was addressed to him. I want to know what made him think the local beating an Indian was based upon racism. However wrong it may be, there is nothing to indicate he did it because the guy was Indian. Sometimes it seems like if it involves and Arab or an Asian everyone cries racism.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
sorry but the last paragraph is much more appealing to me....
...listen to the sound of silence....
Hamad did he clearly say that or was that what the Qatari reported to the newspapers in Qatar?
If I say you are a child molester and you killed your own mother does it make it true?
Why don't we wait for the facts before rushing to judgments?
In the sad case of Al Majed he was not brutally murdered. One man was found guilty of manslaughter which is still a very serious crime but is quite different for murder. I understand your grasp of legal English may be limited.
Hi PM ,
Good question actually . From what i have read , The guy who was abusing the Qatari kid clearly said ''I killed your muslim brothers in Iraq''
Do you consider this as a racial verbal attack or not ?
دمت لنا يا بو مشعل
Did the "local" (if he was one) say, "I am beating the hell out of you because of your race"? Sorry, but I don't think you have described a racial attack at all. More like violence perpetrated on someone perceived to be weaker and who would be forced to take it without being able to properly defend himself.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I guess i will leave it to the concerned . No one was ranting about anything , and im not the lawyer of the case . Its called a forum , so you better discuss rather than RANT .. or whatever that word is .
Thanks for sharing phone numbers and websites . I suggest you visit the following website to to find someone to RANT with :
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Enjoy ;)
What you calim is Inacceptable now. Both the public prosecutor & NHRC Take those cases very seriously nowadays.
Maybe next time instead only ranting about it , you can report that to The National Human Rights
Committee
Tel: 4444 012
Fax: 4444 013
e-mail: [email protected]
you are right Hamad...why you guys still study there?
when you have so many good universities in Qatar now..
Life is unfair . They think all arabs are full of oil and gas tanks at their houses , which makes them jealous , and that ignites the engine of racism . I am sure if those dumb scottish kids were at our schools would have faced the same ... or maybe worse .. I am sure you know what i mean if you have been to our schools :>
FYI .. This is not the first incident that Qatari students face ,as the whole world knows about the trajedy of Al-Majed kid who has been murdered by some english racist students who was killed brutally infront of all the people in a public street !
And guess what ? We still go to London !
Racial attacks happening everywhere in the world irrespective of nationality.... but what had happened cannot be justified. So many Indian students facing the same in Australia and elsewhere..
UKeng I saw a similar incident in FFC some time back... a local guy was beating a cashier (Indian)...and this Indian guy took his chair and smacked his head hard and he fell down...and the other guys took this cashier from the sight of the other guy. Not everyone tolerate such treatments..The worst he could expect is to get deported...When I enquired the reason..the next counter guy told me that this local guy bought a pck of cigge and gave 500 riyals it was a Friday morning..and the cashier asked to wait few mints to give the change...and he abused him and this guy asked him to mind his language... and he started beating him... These are all isolated incidents... but nothing new here…
Local guys also beat their wifes. How do you call that?
saw the same local guy beating his son...what do you call that?!?!?
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Saw a local guy beating up an Indian in a supermarket. No one dared stop the local guy from beating the hell out of this poor Indian. It appeared that the poor Indian who was getting racially abused and smacked in his face by the local guy who happened to be his sponsor. When I asked another Indian standing near the counter what was going on and if they will file a complaint against this local guy. The Indian said that this kind of racial abuse and beating goes on all the time and no one dare's to report it to the police or their Embassy for knowing the consequences of loosing their job and leaving the country.
So the point I am trying to make here has no comparasion to above post what so ever, but clearly demonstrates that racial abuse by a master here is very common?
Whereas the above incident to the Qatari boys might have been committed by youths who were unknown to them, and they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But the incident of the local Qatari guy beating the shit out of his employees for what ever reason is as racial and unforgiving to me as any other racial attack, especailly when the victims can't not even complain for the fear of deportation etc.
Racism is Racism, and should be never condoned what ever face, or form it is in.
Will I ever read this kind of news in the Paper? No
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it is a cycle. once you experienced racism from one's nationality you can't wait until they visit your country.
in that story qataris were the under dog just because they were out of their territory but i bet that won't happen here.
Plus I would also add that before a person is convicted of a crime it is not right to make accusations as a statement of fact. Until the evidence is heard, (not just one persons side of the story) and a verdict is reached in a court of law then is grossly unfair to taint someones image in this way.
The English papers here in Qatar are also guilty of that on many occasions.
OS I think they do judge people on the colour of their skin here. Have you not seen Family Day at the popular malls in Qatar... I've never seen that in the UK even in Scotland!
And you are wrong when you say that people are not judged on their color here. It is no worse in my country than here or in your country.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
PM said alqatariya, snessy was referring to this part of your post: ...
"A group of white South Africans recently killed a black lawyer because he was black. That was wrong. They should have killed him because he was a lawyer."
You are complaining about racism against Qataris but also promoting violence against people of certain professions. That doesn't make sense to some of us.
I wonder if you are as vigilant about racism in your own country.... I hope so because there is a lot of it here.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Thu, 19/11/2009 - 6:10pm
exiledsaint said How do you know it was a ...
How do you know it was a racist attack? I'd be surprised if they could understand someone with a Scottish accent.....
Until anything is proven you should not make such bold accusations.
At least such attacks in Europe are reported in the newspapers and the people are punished if the crimes are proven in a court of law, unlike some places I could mention....
LOL, words player......
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It could be a medicine
it could be a bullet
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But it is not a cultural ignorance
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one of the most civilized part of the world among the civilized ppl, of civilized society.
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
"A group of white South Africans recently killed a black lawyer because he was black. That was wrong. They should have killed him because he was a lawyer."
You are complaining about racism against Qataris but also promoting violence against people of certain professions. That doesn't make sense to some of us.
I wonder if you are as vigilant about racism in your own country.... I hope so because there is a lot of it here.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Snessy its not my fault that you are not understanding what i have mentioned ... and u call it a "joke" .Sooo funnnyy!!!!
last time i told u to consult a good psychiatrist..better don't delay
I hope once u should be a victim of racial attack so that u will clearly understand what i meant.. After that i will be voting for ur statement "so called joke" ...
sorry to repeat the same what u have mentioned to me..*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****
Regards
behavior cracks me up! rofl You guys know how to win with your brains and words :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
of course
if they can!
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
Genesis, maybe we should start brutally beat up and racially abuse expats. How about this evening at the CC cinemas? :P
It would give people on QL many ways to do deserved Qatari Bashing.
in UN peace forces, the westerns are high paid, then eastern.
in ME the westerns are high paid, then eastern.
correct me, if i'm incorrect.
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
black,white,yellow or other races, they are all the same, we should respect each other, treat them eaqually, even though some of them are lack of knowledge or money.
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
Khanan,
You didn't understand my point.
The problem is not only when Scottish people attack Qatari people, the Problem is when people attack people for whatever reason!
This is to stress the fact that it’s not because you are Scottish that you attack Qataris! Any nationality, unfortunately, may attack other with any motive.
The problem is Universal, not owned solely by one nationality!
Well, we have to admit that Chav/ gang attacks are not limited to certain race or group. I guess the Qatari Guys should have been more careful when going to... an entertainment show. I assume a club ;)
I doubt there was anything the boys could have done, those dumbos were probably out looking for a fight and boys looked easy pickings. It's a shame. :(
Alqatariya - I don't understand the relevance of the racial attack and the "so called joke" at the bottom of your post, please kindly explain.
*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****
it was the basic motive...nationality, skin colour and ethicinty....
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Let’s remove nationalities from this for a moment.
We all agree that people should not attack other people, regardless their motives!
Well I hope the two guys are caught and punished. It's good that the UK is taking a firm stance against hate based attacks. Unfortunately that probably won't stop them from happening anytime soon, but at least it's a start.
DP
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There is a huge difference between ” hassle” and brutally beaten / strangled...
East or West!
its a racist attack and should be condemn as the UK Embassy did..
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UK, being hassled a bit by a bunch of young guys looking for a phone number is a bit different than being physically assualted while standing in a queue.
Just for the record, I have been hassled by such young lads, and have had phone numbers left on my car and anytime I have complained to the police they have taken prompt action. In all seriousness, how much of a smack on the hands should you gove a young guy looking for a date? And please, dont tell me young lads dont hassle young ladies in the UK, thats just crazy.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
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Thanks guys for the link.
But generally what are the chances of a Western person (especially female) been hassled by young Qatari youth ever going to make the headlines?
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UKEng,
That case is being discussed in here: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/767126
It was on the first page of the gulf time & Alarab newspaper
Well at it least got reported. What happened to the british Boy who got kidnapped by his relatives while visiting Qatar?
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"HE WHO DARES WINS"
Derek Edward Trotter
The fact that anyone is targeted for abuse because of their ethnicity or religion is tragic. No matter where, when, or why, there is no reason for that in today's global community. One thing that people forget is that no one chose to be a certain race or color. You were born that way. Your attitude and view are chosen. So don't discriminate against a whole culture because a few "A..h.l.s" (fill in the blanks) that you run into. We are all the same underneath it all. The only things that separate us are our choice, experiences, social interactions, and attitudes.
BTW- Was that last comment:
A group of white South Africans recently killed a black lawyer because he was black. That was wrong. They should have killed him because he was a lawyer.
Supposed to be funny??? I find it weird that I am the first to notice it or is it acceptable to everyone else.
likewise Obama did.........lol
So far we have only heard one side of the story so too early to jump to conclusions.
Sir Dolly, can you expand a little on that? How can you be certain? _____________________________________________________
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
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I'm Jack's complete lack of surprise
The incident was taped. The case hearing will take place tomorrow.
phukin knob :-)
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
kiss my ***
i wish the same way the qataries start treating, but i know, i'm dreaming only.
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
you know a'hm sayin? it's like that, the way you treat others, the same way you'll be get treated
Very true Brit, and I must applaud the Brit embassy for their stance.
I remember about 8 years a go a young Scot lad was at a party mouthing off and saying all sorts of nasty and vile things about the locals, to which one local met him in the bathroom and beat him severly.
As I can imagine everyone thinks the local got away with it but he did not. He spent 6 months in jail and was in turn sued by the Scot who got a rather nice settlement out of the whole thing. No embassy intervened nor any human rights agencies. For this, I applaud Qatar. ___________________________________________________
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
This type of moronic behaviour cannot be condoned, yet occurs regularly all over the world.
It's fine to who Dot Com?
One situation has no links to the other.
No to violence in any sorts and forms!
Glad to see compassion is still alive.
I dunno, some people are just miserable, what can I say. We expats whine all the time about how we hate being treated inferior and how they locals and arabs alike are "barbaric, backward and uneducated" for behaving in such a manner with never a hint of physical violence.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose!
Daa stergey jaadoogarey dee, daa meena lewanai da!
Janaan......
because some one is attacked violently .Physical attack on a person is punishable every where ? and hurray to europe .......
"...brutally beaten up and racially abused..."
O_o
How do you know it was a racist attack? I'd be surprised if they could understand someone with a Scottish accent.....
Until anything is proven you should not make such bold accusations.
At least such attacks in Europe are reported in the newspapers and the people are punished if the crimes are proven in a court of law, unlike some places I could mention....
Of course it should. Any suggestions how?
Purely Rasicm...... It should be stopped!!