Activists Sue US Gov't

Anyway, it is American currency and let the people of America decide it. Continue with it or change it as we outsiders have no say in it.

alredoo, On a currency note this kind of a statement, I think, is irrelevant especially in a country like US. This is a country of great diversities in religions and ethnicities. Also, a currency note serves the purpose of a bill that has nothing to do with God or religion. If they have to promote their belief in God, let this be written as a letter head of each and every official document or cover of books.

Brit, E Pluribus Unum is an apt and nationalistic statement that encourages unity of the nation.

They did.

On the currency it says "E Pluribus Unum"- Latin for "out of many, one."

It is not irrelevant...But the problem is this motto does not suit a country like USA

Its funny America couldn't find anything worthwhile to fill the space available on currency notes and ended up with something that is totally irrelevant and controversial.

To make use of the space, if at all, they could have written something ethical or nationalistic as the hallmark of the country's ideals or principles.

Brit, this page is kinda interesting, if you're in to this sort of stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AAnnuit_Cœptis

Thanks for the explanation Fatimah, that makes sense about the religious texts being omitted from money since its likely to become old and dirty and mistreated.

I always used to wonder why it's so rare to see deceased people on currency in Islamic countries, while in the west the opposite is true - most countries almost never put living people on money. I thought it may have had a religious origin.

good question..As far as i know once a person die it is not good to see the same dead person again whether it is in video or symbols etc

Thanks for the info on Gunn. It was something new...

Hi there!Depicting animals and humans on currency cannot be correct from an Islamic POV because that would fall under the category of picture making in a unnecessary situation. Unless of course there actually is an unavoidable reason that calls for such depictions, which I truly am not aware of!

Now as for baring the name of God, or having things like Quranic verses on them, then again this is not right, Allahu alam, given the kind of places these notes are bound to end up in, including toilets and the likes! I see no benefit in having such statements on money notes at all really, cos no one looks to their moolah for any kind of religious guidance anyways!

But yeah I'm sure you'll have some "scholars" saying otherwise...but hey they always do!!

Hi Fatimah, I was hoping you'd appear on this thread.

Can I ask - are there religious restrictions in Islam a out what can be depicted on currency? Or is it one of those situations where 20 scholars will have 20 opinions about whether its okay to depict living/dead people, or even animals, or religious quotations.

I'm just curious.

time on their hands! Are there not more pressing agendas for them to pursue, that maybe a greater benefit to their people? Seriously!!

Besides those words on moolah are really more amusing than annoying. Specially when you consider how many crooks and criminals must be peddling them, along with the faithful, it's like a mega irony!

But hey to each their own. Frankly it doesn't bother me what any currency trumpets...as long as they serve their purpose,they are still very moreish to me!

SALAD HOUSE !

Considering Jesus' view on the money changers in the temple, it would seem to me that He probably wouldn't approve of any religious reference being included on currency.

It's mixing religion and commerce, and we know who usually comes second in those situations.

The queen isn't God, but she is an important religious figure,

She is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England.

Does having her face on bank notes and stamps imply that they are endorsed by the church, or that by using them, you are part of the Church?

I was reading the Wikipedia page Brit a out Annuit Coeptis. Fancy Jeremy Gunn trying to change the translation from 3rd person singular present into the passive voice. Idiot.

Prophet Jesus is more important than the queen..so have you seen Jesus on bank notes or stamps

There is also the latin phrase "Annuit Coeptis" on the reverse. Some have translated it to mean "God has favored our undertaking" :O)

Fubar: Yup i think she should go, I mean Tourists would still come to see the Big Ben right?

The queen is not GOD but a important personality or a high profile person

Brit: Personally No.

A couple of words printed on mulla should not force me to sleepless nights over it.

It’s just that I hate having to look at their cash and think “OMG that’s a hegemony state!

What about British banknotes and postage stamps?

They have the Queens image on them, and she is the Head of the Church of England. Should non Anglicans object to that too?

in GOD we trust can we know which one

It is not a symbol but a Motto

In 1956, Congress passed a resolution making “In God We Trust” the national motto, which was again upheld by the U.S. House of Representatives in 2011 by a 396-9 vote.

This group has the right to challenge the treasury. If the courts rule in their favour, then it should be removed.

Can we not keep the discussion generic rather than getting into specifics. I guess other than Chritians and Muslims there are people of other faiths and no-faiths living there.

Guys the topic is about the use of religious symbols in public.

It's not about which faith is in the majority in America..

Noted and agree to you. At the same time, if you read many nowadays for example in USA are getting revert to islam and these are few of the christian faith who are doing it and InshaAllah many possibly might happen in nearby future...So then what could be the reason for these US citizens to revert or know another faith...As thesurprised said MISGUIDED MUSLIMS...then how can this misguidance be justified to a revert from one faith to islam

r we discussing religion or currency

Nothing will change as long as the Supreme Court remains overly male and Christian.

The problem I have with the statement is that it also implies the reverse - that we distrust anyone who doesn't believe in a Christian God.

Does it cause discomfort to you to have such a phrase on the currency ?

Take ur shop somewhere else...idiot.

brit...I wish so.

Alredoo yes the majority are of the Christian faith!

Not really.. We'll just go the same way as the other threads..

Brit:The phrase 'In God We Trust' was only added in the last half-century, so it's not that historic.

I think they should change to Gods, as they may more than one! Who knows?

So you say that America is only for the christians and no other religion

I see a long drawn and inconclusive battle of words now....sigh!!!!

Yes TSM, I guess his surname is Khan ?

Then why are the muslims treated badly or not respected (recent case is of bollywood actor IRFAN KHAN) in the US if they say IN GOD WE TRUST

Are the said activists non-believers?

One mans God is another mans Idol.

Ok in this case...IN WIKIPEDIA WE TRUST :P

It is a pretence. Nobody really trusts God in the real sense. It's just a chiche'..

But at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what you write on your currency note as long as it buys you stuff.

God is a general word or definition

they didn't wrote Allah or Jesus or cows ,Sun ...etc

"In God we Trust"

so, everybody can use it , no matter what was his/her believes

this forums future is " Ooooooooooooooooooops "

IN GOD WE TRUST- where is religion or religious symbol in it -Marco?

God & Religion are two different things Marco.

Happy, I agree with you.

God is often conceived as the supreme being and principal object of faith. (wikipedia definition)

Hence it serves all religions not only Christians.

OK.. This should be in religious forums, but we'll go along till the religion bashing starts.

Theory and reality are two different things. Yes, the founding fathers wanted a secular nation in trhe sense that they wanted to accomodate all people and not be aligned to one religion.

However, the fact remains that religion does play a major part in the lives of the majority of Americans. They have "In God We Trust" on currency.

As far as Israel and saudi Arabia are concerned, both countries are founded on religion as the basis of their existence and guidence. So, there is no harm in them having religious symbols.

The surprised: Yup I couldn’t agree more.

Like Miss Mimi said, the US is a secularist country and $ is a universal currency, saying “In God We Trust" on all money used by ALL Christian –Non-Christian Americans/non-Americans, believers/Non-believers is just screwy its shows clear bias and favoritism of the Christian ideology.

lol....people really need to engage themselves into some constructive activities rather than such useless issues. With or without anything the buying power of the note wouldn't change.

The US is a secular country, therefore nothing religious should be displayed on anything public. Currency is public.