BA worker guilty of plane terror plot

Strange, my previous post got deleted.

Psycho extremist or plain nutter.And a danger to society not to mention having not so hot playmates. Whatever be his motives and beliefs he should be penalized with the toughest punishment permitted and locked away. A country like UK where many citizens regardless of their race and origin are blessed with much privileges don't need traitors like him!

Nic.....any reason for being obsessed with my ID.

Nic.....your human written love manuals which you follow says to label Elph as haters for whatever he says and be silent on PMF hatred. And probably the manual also says to lie about things which you have no idea or knowledge. To save your energy on thinking whether me and Elph are same....I am not him.

Sillyguy,

you sure picked a great name ;)

sillyguy

(What a great name!) If you scroll up, you will probably see that I haven’t labeled you as hater. Are you Elaph?!

I only did so to Elaph and that is a conclusion based on what he expresses here in QL for the past few weeks. If in doubt, check his profile and see what he specified as his interests.

Also check above how many times he used the word "hate" ;)

Nic...."I might not embrace certain ideologies or sympathize with certain behaviors but that does not mean I hate somebody!"...and that qualifies you to label others as haters? So you are following hatred manual written by human beings.

sillyguy,

there is no script that i consider divine, all are written by human beings!

sillyguy,

What a great name you baptized yourself with!

Just to clarify, because I don’t think you can reach this far: I don't hate anybody. I might not embrace certain ideologies or sympathize with certain behaviors but that does not mean I hate somebody!

:)

Nic..."Moreover, your hate is such in a scale .... you will come from outside to spew your hatred and lie about muslims and islam." That shows your agenda. Btw, which divine scripture you are following?

marins,

It’s all written in their "divine" script!

You’ll find in it plenty of text that inspires such actions!

Young, IT engineer, married, father of a family,coming from a middle-class family in his country , but become terrorist... How they can wash the brain of this kind of people, can somebody explain me ?

WHY to kill innocent people ,for religious ideeas? Can somebody give explanation ? Realy I can't understand.

UK gave to him and his family the chance of better life ,save him from miset of Bangladesh, but instead to pray and thank milions times for this chance, he action against his benefactors.

This is a human beign ?

It appears that someone is shortsighted and assumes that all participants in this forum live in Qatar!

Moreover, your hate is such in a scale that you assume that those who are not with you, hate what you represent.

Keep thinking; eventually you might open your mind a bit and will understand better what you read!

yes, you are kissing them and you live among them,so if i was you, i will leave before i become their terrorism victim , but hey , you live a good life here,where you enjoy their money and safety that your country don't offer you, you are a very typical backstabber and hypocrite, one word for you Mister ! if you think muslims are terrorists,then you better don't live in their land,move out.

Nic yes it appears that i live among terrorists and have the balls to come on a public forums complainin about them and how dangerous and scary are they, so if you think so,why do u live here ? don't you fear that you might get killed by one of muslims in this country ?

Can we all clap for the newly born Islamophobe Mr. PMF.

Another of those setups.

Elaph,

It appears that if you weren't one, you would be doing exactly that!

apology? i was just saying a simple thing, people here on QL and media like to lash muslims, don't try to convince me otherwise because this isn't the first case, of course they will say he wasn't religious man he was crazy,but if a muslim attack others then he is a muslim, he is religious, islam is the problem and so on

The bit you deleted from my post was central to the point.

it did indeed reference 2 named religions but it was not about religion at all.

In fact it said that this WAS NOT religiously motivated.

I forgive you, must be a hard job....but please read more insighfully next time.

then i'll quote U the famous FU saying

"Go to LuLu hyper market, on first floor take left and in the second shop U'll find it." ;)

I live in the desert 80k from Doha - I don't have a life.

:(

hatred strike again with a failure plot of a Muslim by name, and a bunch of nutters on QL launched their missiles once again, and as usual a special psychopath is looking the links of suspect to the holy Book............one word to U guys.............. Get a Life and stop ranting over QL.

Go to wiki page for links:

4.^ a b c O'Malley, Jaclyn. "Man accused in Mich. mosque bomb plot previously charged in Reno airport bomb threat". Reno Gazette-Journal. http://www.rgj.com/article/20110131/NEWS01/110131035.

5.^ "Merced Sun-Star from 1979". http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=OjlcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6FUNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5647,22155&dq=a+32-year-old+moslem+convert+was+in+custody+friday+after+taking+his+son+from+a+foster+home&hl=en.

7.^ "Michigan suspect was charged in Vermont threats". http://www.necn.com/01/31/11/Michigan-suspect-was-charged-in-Vermont-/landing_nation.html?&blockID=3&apID=ed529054671740f0b10dfb5af9fda26c.

8.^ "Michigan mosque bomb suspect once faced threat charges in Vermont". http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20110131/NEWS02/110131011/Michigan-mosque-bomb-suspect-once-faced-threat-charges-in-Vermont.

9.^ Karoub, Jeff. "Mich. mosque attack plot suspect told not to drink". http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/02/01/general-us-mosque-terror-threat_8285879.html.

10.^ Dearborn Press & Guide: "Stockham requests new attorney"

11.^ MyFoxDetroit: "New Lawyer for Dearborn Mosque Threat Suspect Roger Stockham"

12.^ Detroit free Press: "Mosque plot suspect rejects first appointed counsel, calls lawyer 'Shi'ite'"

13.^ Yahoo News: "Michigan mosque plot suspect fires lawyer in court"

14.^ Yahoo News: "Atty: Mosque plot suspect says he meant no harm"

15.^ MSNBC: "Michigan mosque plot suspect fires lawyer in court"

Threads about religion should be posted only in the Religious Teachings group, where all are welcome to further others understanding and have discussions.

Read more: http://qatarliving.com/guidelines#ixzz1FNv7fkCv

they should kill him.

this kind of news is one of many news that feed fear into public so they will need their people in command to protect them from.

whoever wrote those scripts must have used simpler terms!

Adey.......wikipedia.....a very reliable source indeed.

You believe this:'On September 1, 1979, the Merced Sun-Star reported that Stockham, whom it described as a "32-year-old Muslim convert" Back in 1979 paper described him muslim.

But rejecting this:'In 1985....According to psychiatrists, he believed he was Jesus Christ and that extraterrestrials had taken over his body.' In 1979 he was described muslim and in 1985 he believed to be Jesus. Which one you want me to take seriously 1979 or 1985? Or was he a christian terrorist acting as muslim to take revenge of 9/11?

A psychiatric examination found that Stockham suffered from bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder and personality disorder with anti-social features.

http://detnews.com/article/20110131/METRO01/101310345/Plot-to-blow-up-Dearborn-mosque-foiled-by-tip-to-police#ixzz1FNdUTkUD

oh dear ! What a crazy outcome!

After all, a nutter is and will always be a nutter.

care to respond or offer an apology?

You should in fact applaud the reporters of the Dearborn mosque articles, they did indeed refuse to mention the culprits religion. You lambasted them for actually doing what you wanted.

I agree with you; a persons religion or country of origin should not be the 'thing' that grabs the headlines.

The crime alone is bad enough without a religion or culture being dragged down with that person.

So the real story is that it appears to be muslim sectarian terrorism......but of course it's not......because he's just an insane nutter.

No he is not a Christian, he has been a muslim for the last 37 years.

'Roger Stockham was arrested and charged with TERRORISM after attempting to blow up the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn'

'In 1977, Stockham armed himself with bombs and took his psychologist hostage, but surrendered later after meeting with a reporter'

'On September 1, 1979, the Merced Sun-Star reported that Stockham, whom it described as a "32-year-old Muslim convert", had taken his then-9-year-old son Kane out of foster care and brought Kane and a gun on board his rented Cessna 150 in attempt to land at Los Angeles International Airport and hijack an airliner to take him to Iran. [5] At one point he was also accused of threatening President Jimmy Carter.'

'In 1985, Stockham was arrested at Reno-Cannon International Airport for planting a pipe bomb and carrying an unregistered firearm, an incident covered in the Los Angeles Times. Aged 38 at the time, he was described as having mental and criminal problems. According to psychiatrists, he believed he was Jesus Christ and that extraterrestrials had taken over his body.'

'In 2002 he pled not guilty by reason of insanity to threatening to blow up a Veterans Administration center in Vermont and making threats against President George W. Bush.'

'Stockham rejected his court-appointed attorney because he claimed the attorney was a Shi'ite Muslim who worships at the Islamic Center: “I reject my appointed counsel. He is a Shi'ite and I am not.” he said, before he was cut off by 19th District Judge Mark Somers. It was also revealed that Stockham was a convert to Islam, spoke Arabic during the preliminary interview, and quoted Qur’anic verses. His newly appointed attorney also insisted that his client isn't anti-Muslim as Stockham converted to Islam soon after serving in Vietnam in 1974 and spoke of his outrage over U.S. conduct in Iraq. The chairman of the board for the Islamic Center of America, Afif Jawad, who attended the hearing, said he and other leaders continue to meet with local and federal law enforcement officials about the incident. Jawad stated: "This man knows what he's doing" and "This man picked on the Shiites....That's a threat to the community." The manager at the Detroit bar Stockham visited before his arrest, said Stockham claimed to be part of a group of Indonesian Mujahideen, or holy warriors.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Dearborn_mosque_bombing_plot

sillyguy, he did not, to my knowledge, try to do those bombing for any god. So , no he is, therefore, not a christian terrorist. Is he a terrorist? Very likely. Is he as deranged as his fellow Muslim terrorists are? Very likely. Thank God he is not as successful as they are.

He may actually not BE a Christian. We do have choices in the US. "Only" a felony charge? I suspect he will never see the light of day again and for that I am thankful. It's early days, we will see if the Feds bring terrorism charges. Probably depends on the bomb material he was carrying. In the US prosecutors tend to bring only charges they KNOW they can prove in court.

Mandi

See the difference in reporting and comments made by QLers.

"A Bangladeshi Islamic militant working for British Airways was found guilty on Monday of plotting to blow up a plane after conspiring with radical US-Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki."

3rd para: ...The jury convicted Karim of four counts of preparing terror attacks.In very first para it says everything about the culprit....his religion, his origin, who is his inspiration. The moment you read the first para....hate for muslim and islam comes. In 3rd para he is already convicted of terrorism.

See this one:

1st para: A man from California was arrested in Michigan, for threatening to blow up one of the country's largest mosques. The man is a 63-year-old Army veteran. 1st para says nothing about his religion, who is his inspiration. Though he is also inspired by religion(though article nowhere mentioned that).

4th para: ....Stockham is facing felony charges, and he is now sitting in jail awaiting to face charges. He is only facing a felony charges? Oh yeah because he is white and christian and even though he has criminal history.

nomerci says....I'd say. Probably deranged." Though he is involved in random bombing. He is only deranged or a nutter. But a muslim is a terrorist.

Now wait for some to read the article and will find some key words/ key differences and will overwhelmingly support this christian terrorist oh sorry deranged man and the same people will spew their hatred for islam and muslims.

ok i guess no one likes racist people.

there is only one idiot here hris the person who hate this country so much hate muslims so much and guess what? he continues to live here in this country and think that muslims are crooks and qataris are incompetent , i think you are the only idiot here

This guy just seems to randomly try to bomb things....a vet office, an airport and a mosque, pretty random, I'd say. Probably deranged.

Did you post anything here related to the Boston Celtics trading Kendrick Perkins to the OK Thunder in the NBA, on trade deadline day?

No.

How can people comment on something they didn't read about, idiot.

Elaph, well, it wasn't last week but we are all thrilled that this right-wing hate-monger is behind bars without bail and that none of his nefarious schemes came to fruition.

Mandi

did any of the muslim haters here post anything related to the man who tried bombing that mosque in michigan last week?of course not,because he wasn't a muslim following the divine code http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/303143#ixzz1CnEbA1ew

you people live here in this country with people following the divine code but as i can see you are not scared at all,you must be very brave men

Thank God, It is not an Pakistani Living in UK, other wise another thread would be on QL Basing Pakistani's...

@Nic I think you're right. The scripts are divine. But different individuals with different level of thinking in interpreting divine scripts will make the difference. And if you beleive in his logic of thinking then you'll be in a trance and will follow whatever he says.

They are sad, pathetic people stuck in dead end jobs with no authority, so think that by doing this they will be changing the history of the world and are somehow important.

He isn't going to achieve martyrdom sitting at a computer is he?

As I said, he is no good to society on any level.

I wonder where these guys get inspired to have such ideas!

I am sure that no "divine" script would hint anything like this... or am I wrong?

This 'man' is no good to society, or humankind, and certainly of no use to the U.K.

Deport him, please.

Oh wait, that would be against his 'human rights' so we can't, I forgot. Sorry.