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Self defence

Someone pulling a knife on another person what is that called? Just being playful and showing affection?

Moving on ... Simple scuffle, involving youngsters wielding guns ... Righto! That's cause for concern. Nothing untoward happened in the current situation which has been brought under control but in future, what if some rash youngsters get into similar altercations and an innocent bystander gets killed in the crossfire?

lols radoha.........................

mozaismyhero - I have seen some of your posts recently and you do seem to be very bitter - things happen everywhere in the world and the reality is not always reported. It is also true that if you really dislike this place as much as your profile portrays, why don't you go back to where you came from?

To sum this tedious thread up, can we agree that Qatar is safer than where we came from and move on??

:)

Was talking about those pistols you get in groceries.

Qatari's can own all the guns they want MN. Expats aren't allowed to own them.

If infants have the license for those guns, then it isnt illegal...:)

A scuffle between some persons which led to a few shots being fired? I’m too bored to laugh!

And why were those young kids having guns on them? I thought the possession of guns was illegal in Qatar. No?

Agree ...

Agree for the first time on rizks comment. As eid is approaching, young qataris go to shops to buy toy pistol guns and fire them in air. It causes no injury, only the birds get injured. Since in this incident only the birds got injured, it is a simple scuffle.

It reminded me of my childhood days in QATAR. Used to buy these pistol and water guns.

It describes it as a simple scuffle. In English you wouldn't use the phase simple scuffle and gun shots being fired in the same sentence. Biased reporting again.

TFS Shakti............simple accident

So it was just a simple accident followed by handbags at 10 paces...

Hold on! what about the shooting ?

Finally officially confirmed by Gulf times

Source : http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=523446&version=1&template_id=36&parent_id=16

True, "Qatar is relatively safe compared to most but it's not the crime free paradise some will claim. Just not reporting the crimes doesn't mean they do not happen."

Yeah, but on the other hand, the non-reporting is actually supposed to be protective of the public, so as not to create unnecessary panic, while the shurta is to handle things. That's the big picture, of course. Implementation is another thing.

It all depends on what was being reported..

Qatar is relatively safe compared to most but it's not the crime free paradise some will claim. Just not reporting the crimes doesn't mean they do not happen.

For instance in the first 3 months of this year the MOI received 350000 calls relating to crime! That's huge for a country of only 1.8 million

Assassination of Chechen former president in 2004 with Russian involvement and the car bomb incident at Doha players in 2005, these are the main incidents which I ever heard since 1982.

mozaism, you are right how can we define Qatar as one of the safest counties in the world.

TFS, MIMH. I was only there from August 2008 and was not aware of earlier incidents.

Picked this out from your link though, ""Al-Qaeda has threatened Westerners in the area" - so this was in 2005 and there was a wall street journal article in January this year about Al-Qaeda opening office in Qatar...

/Anyway, apologies to OP, for going off tangent. Back to thread track.

"...murder by land cruiser...."

Is this some new kind of murder -:)

anyways below link has stats for road accident deaths:

http://qataraccidents.org/2011/02/09/deaths-and-violations-by-the-number/

yeah :( unnecessary mirch masala ..

that is called Mirch masala :-P

oh ok every news which is scary is hidden over here.... i must say the govt is really good in qatar....

whereas media in some country like my own country makes a big hype of silly issues... which is really sad :(... media must be in control...

In local newspaper not mentioned. So still can not guess on it.

ohh shaktimaan..... i love mukesh khanna's role as shaktimaan.... he is so good looking .. :D

anyway coming to the point ... is there any news about this incident ???

I know that. But what is the point over here.

Yes Qatar is relatively safe compared to the majority of countries in the world, that is not in doubt. (Although crime levels are rising quickly)

The point is certain events happen here and just because the media are too scared to publish does not mean they do not happen.

hey wats going on??? is this incident highlighted in any of the newspapers???

wud agree with u brit ....................:)

The Doha players bombing is a well known incident in Qatar in 2004/5. It was carried out by an Egyptian QP employee killing the director of Doha players. I suggest you research it.

Can we agree that qatar is "relatively safe" and move on :O)

your point on doha player. What are you trying to say. it was indeed printed on all local newspaper.

Doha Player was easy to find as it was reported in the foreign press at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4365039.stm

In Qatar only happy stories are allowed to be printed, bad news gets erased..... others will remember the car chase and the shooting in Al Rayan even if you demand absolute proof!

You have no right to call me fake, you do not know me.

moza is dreaming as if he is in colorado theatre shakti

Since you can not find any source for the shooting, so let us consider your comments about it fake like your fake profile. Let us now go for doha player. What is your take on that.

astrangefruit I agree completley. Dying on the road is no different to being shot for me, the end is the same I am dead.

Interesting I can't find any source for the shooting, it's like its been wiped from the record. I'm sure other QLers will remember though as it was big news for a while. It's also not the only shooting that has happened here either and mainly it is within the Qatari community. (as you find very few expats with access to guns)

Mr Qatar,

I fully agree that Qatar has a low crime rate and Qataris deserve full recognition for that. The very fact that we are talking about the shooting is proof that it is not typical.

I would however have to disagree with your earlier comment that all road deaths are accidents and not crimes. An accident is 'any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate....cause'. source Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/accident?s=t

The simple truth is that most road deaths have a cause - poor quality driving by people. And we all know that this is avoidable if very simple measures were put in place and properly enforced. Hundreds of dead people young and old could still be going about their daily lives, thousands of husbands, wives, family members would not be grieving for the most senseless loss of all - to have your loved one taken because of bad road manners, being late for a meeting, or simply a constant 'I must be first in the queue' mentality - how ridiculously tragic!

I am not interested in finger pointing or attributing blame to one nationallity over another. It effects us all equally. We are all thrown together here and need to understand that we are different because of where we come from, not who we are. How can you blame somebody for where they come from? All societies are not the same in their behaviour or governance and it is naive to assume that this one should be a mirror of one where anyone else comes from. Hopefully in terms of traffic deaths however, change will happen sooner rather than later with the world focussing more and more on Qatar in the coming years. There is a responsibility on the government of the people not just to create laws, but to actually apply them. Otherwise they are a farce to be ignored with impunity as we see every day.

There are at least 20 of you out there today who will not be alive this time next month due to your or others' actions on the roads...

Until we take personal responsibility, and stop referring to these preventable crimes as accidents, we will continue to see the same scene playing out daily, just with new names and faces....

Source again. From chasing to Doha players. Let us finish with chasing first.

It was about 4 or 5 years ago in the Al Rayan area. One group chased another and fired shots at the other car. The car in front crashed killing the occupants. I'm surprised you've never heard of it but I guess you block this out of your memory.

How about the bombing at Doha Players probably back in 2004/2005, did you forget that as well?

Yeah, MIMH, as Shaktimaan asked, source please for:

"As for shooting on the roads, who could forget the two Qataris chasing each other on the roads w

while one was shooting at the other which lead to the deaths of several people when one car spun out of control."

How recent / long ago was this?

No Comments... lolzzz

Yes moza is a a a troublemaker. He's talking about safety on the road. The main topic is related about crime, conflictss, law-breaking etc. Some sh.t going up on his head.

mozais... just compare your country with Qatar, if you realise that Qatar is safest than stay here if not than book your ticket.... when humans are not perfect then how a country can be perfect....

& mozais.. sorry to say but you are one of the major negative effect on Qatar ratings in safety surveys coz you always fight.. dishun dishun dishun... lolzzzzzzzz

Source please for As for shooting on the roads, who could forget the two Qataris chasing each other on the roads while one was shooting at the other which lead to the deaths of several people when one car spun out of control.

I've read some daft things in my time, but .."Many online, meanwhile, began questioning how such an incident could happen in Qatar, given it’s ranking as one of the safest countries in the world"

Sack the journalist for a start..

From BE Comment taken from the Doha News, he's right sack the journalist. The link is not to the safest country in the world and have more to do with being a peaceful country with little chance of revolution or war.

As for shooting on the roads, who could forget the two Qataris chasing each other on the roads while one was shooting at the other which lead to the deaths of several people when one car spun out of control.

is this a five minute argument or a full half hour ?

What do you mean by getting shot on the roads

u can continue ur argument evenafter leaving from here bcos QL is worldwide and can be operated yr own home contry

Safety on roads is a different issue, How can you relate road accidents with gun shots?

if your not safe here better to exit the country and u wud be safe in yr country bcos iam safe in this country

Another twist on the if you don't like it leave argument, nice...

Safety for me is everything, no point being happy about not getting shot if I die on the roads!

@ mozais..

Qatar is safest country in terms of low crime rate. We cant consider Road accidents as a crime.. Crime and accidents are two different things...!!

Thought safest country mean less crimes in the country.. now for you car accident is also a crime, that's a different issue..

Do not blame QATAR for those death. It is because of reckless drivers and no experience drivers.

How can you define Qatar as one of the safest counties in the world when it has one of the highest death rates on the road in the world!

Yes they succeeded quite well. The newspapers used to publish the court cases involving locals, shootings, murder by land cruiser, kid nappings and beatings were all featured. Then they were asked to stop publishing such stories as it made the country look bad.

britexpat said I've read some daft things in my time, but .."Many online, meanwhile, began questioning how such an incident could happen in Qatar, given it’s ranking as one of the safest countries in the world"

Sack the journalist for a start.."

But that IS the perception that Qatar has worked hard to maintain all these years and has succeeded quite well.

Agreed with Dawood that qatar will always be one of the safest countries in the world. Issues like this may occur but they are quickly controlled by the govt

/One thing though, "gun shots were fired" meaning the people involved in the altercation before the police arrived, had gun licences? Hmmm...

yr right ghazalz qatar will always be one of safest country small issues occur and they are controlled by the govt

I rarely hear about such incidents in Qatar

I hope and pray, it always remain as one of the safest countries in the world!

I've read some daft things in my time, but .."Many online, meanwhile, began questioning how such an incident could happen in Qatar, given it’s ranking as one of the safest countries in the world"

Sack the journalist for a start..

It was a fighting between some individuals at Decoration Roundabout.

hope everyone is oky... why would that happen in a busy street...

I am laughing so hard at the sequence above. Sorry I also do not know what pic MN01 is talking about. But XBRL, I love that rocking kitty!! Too cute. :D

which pic ????

wat wrong pic

can the admin remove the pic plz?

i hope everthing is clear

ok, wrong pic....