Electricity cannot be recycled!!!!!!!!!!!!!

itsmeonly
By itsmeonly

Guys check out this building fully lightened up with no one using this building.The owner may pay for wat he consumes but Around the world there are many places without electricity and water (recently turned into basic needs of human)so how these guys can waste energy for advertisment?isnt this a Topic to be discussed?

By anonymous• 3 Apr 2009 18:19
anonymous

Yes!!! electricity can be recycled if you consume few and support the others pay their bill.

By bleu• 3 Apr 2009 18:15
bleu

your claim, your proof.

By leonscarface• 3 Apr 2009 18:04
leonscarface

yes, it is possible to store in large scale...

the answer is: YES it is possible...

NOW, prove to me that it isn't.....

By bleu• 3 Apr 2009 00:21
Rating: 2/5
bleu

leon, when I asked the question, I was asking about large-scale power storage ... a PACEMAKER doesn't count in this argument, it uses a battery and a small generator (got that from a Google search)... I'm talking about scales in many MWh or GWh...

Energy storage on the power grid is not very useful when we generate the power through gas turbines, but we use some power-leveling (some high power consuming companies/factories are encouraged to use more power during the winter, and much less during the summer when consumer usage increases)

By leonscarface• 2 Apr 2009 19:07
leonscarface

i just answered your question.

you were asking if it is possible to store electrical energy here and use it back to your home.

my answer is, "YES"

we can charge a battery of a PACEMAKER here. install it and you can use not only for a year but for your lifetime..

i hope you know what a pacemaker is? i dont need to speak with proof...

By Vivo Bonito• 2 Apr 2009 09:10
Vivo Bonito

leon.... speak with proof... believing to the winds whispers will only speaks it's there if it will be felt right down through the skin.... as TQ said... speaking as you do just discredits everything else you write.

~~~bleh! muta....~~~

By bleu• 2 Apr 2009 08:39
bleu

tallg, MD is sarcastic, as usual.

By tallg• 2 Apr 2009 07:59
tallg

MD - I'm surprised someone with your intelligence is advising people to waste energy. You seem to have just jumped on the point that energy can't be created or destroyed, and while that is correct it isn't the issue here.

The issue is not about energy being limited, but about the natural resources being used up to generate the electricity that can't be recovered.

Leaving lights on means these finite natural resources are unnecessarily used up. That's the point the original poster was trying to make.

By bleu• 2 Apr 2009 00:38
bleu

MD, go down even lower, explain it in Quarks and particle physics...

By hariibon• 1 Apr 2009 22:36
hariibon

it's the building owner's own form of indirect advertising?

i can think of more expensive ways to advertise aside from lighting the lights, can you think of any other way cheaper?

had you ask them why they keep it lit before jumping to conclusion?

By anonymous• 1 Apr 2009 22:24
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

There is more energy 'stored' than you can imagine. As you all know every atom has an equal number of protons and electrons (so that the atom itself appears to be electrically neutral). What if I have a membrane in a container that lets only protons pass. The electrons are separated from the protons and forced to go another way. This way is a piece of wire and then there is a load (an electric motor, for example). After the electrons went through the load and performed 'work' they combine again with the protons which pass through a second membrane. I've just explained the Hydrogen Fuel Cell to you. So, energy is not limited at all. Let's use it, it does not get lost. Never. As I said before, you only pay for the delivery.

By tallg• 1 Apr 2009 22:16
tallg

leon, if you are more knowledgeable about a subject than someone else just try to explain things to them. Speaking as you do just discredits everything else you write.

By leonscarface• 1 Apr 2009 22:03
leonscarface

i only answered your question..yes you can store it in a large scale...is it clear to you???

TO VIVO BONITO,

YES, A YEAR LOAD OF ELECTRIC POWER CAN BE STORED FOR YOU.. AND EVEN FOR YOUR LIFETIME....IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ELECTRICAL APPLIANCE YOU WILL USE IT...

MAYBE FOR YOUR PACEMAKER.....

By tallg• 1 Apr 2009 21:17
Rating: 4/5
tallg

And regarding storing electricity, most power grids store the excess electricity generated during non-peak times, and then use it during peak times when demand is greater.

There are various methods of storage, some involving converting it to another form of energy, some maintaining it as electricity. Large quantities of energy can be stored.

By tallg• 1 Apr 2009 21:02
tallg

It's not necessarily about storing it.

Electricity is generated and supplied according to the demand there is for it, and generating electricity uses resources that are finite.

Hence causing an unnecessary demand for electricity (by leaving lights on, for example) is a waste of energy, in that it uses up these finite resources.

By bleu• 1 Apr 2009 19:02
Rating: 3/5
bleu

leonscarface,

AFAIK you can only store a very limited quantity of energy, mostly in batteries. So how do you see it being stored.

Didn't hear of any radical large-scale solutions to that problem.

By Vivo Bonito• 1 Apr 2009 18:30
Vivo Bonito

ok leonscarface... store me a yearload of electricity from here... ill bring them back home for my home appliances consumption as what itsmeonly implies... could it be?

itsmeonly just observed that if for matter of energy savings why these lights keep turned on?

~~~bleh! muta....~~~

By anonymous• 1 Apr 2009 17:45
anonymous

I think itsmeonly was just pointing out what a huge waste of energy it is.

He's right.

By leonscarface• 1 Apr 2009 16:11
Rating: 2/5
leonscarface

answer to BLEU..

YES.. Electric energy can be stored and can be used to other designated purposes...

By tallg• 1 Apr 2009 16:10
tallg

Leaving lights on wastes energy.

By leonscarface• 1 Apr 2009 16:07
leonscarface

nice observation itsmeonly...

a lot of effort has been utilized to harness raw energy to generate this useful one- ELECTRICITY...

By bleu• 1 Apr 2009 16:05
bleu

LOL, silly topic.

All that for just one building with the lights on???

Do you think that what is produced can be stored and sent somewhere "around the world"???

Once a generator is on, it's difficult to turn it off, and once you do, you need a very long time to turn it back on and sync it to the grid.

We have Gas, and we're not donating Gas and Generators to other countries.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 1 Apr 2009 15:12
skdkak closed 1708224867

LOL MD - that was too much to consume.

BTW: itsmeonly.. remember there are people working in power generaiton units and they dont need to be thrown out, particularly in melt down days. have mercy on these guys.. hehehehehe

By itsmeonly• 1 Apr 2009 14:51
itsmeonly

u guys miss understood wat i mean..i see this building lightened up for more than one month,is that for a clearing frm kaharma?

By DaRuDe• 31 Mar 2009 20:55
Rating: 4/5
DaRuDe

worked in construction firm and were electrical engineer then you would have never asked such a dumb silly question.

After the electric wiring work is done in a building and the Kahrama provides the power to the venue they need to switch on every single button ON TRIAL BASIS TO CHECK IF THERE IS ANY DEFECT, BEFORE GIVING OUT.

By anonymous• 31 Mar 2009 20:54
anonymous

How do you know they were not cleaning the building, decorating the building etc. Also, they could have been checking lightbulbs lol

My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.

By Whitefeather• 31 Mar 2009 20:53
Whitefeather

Wow people don't mind their own business anymore do they....

By anonymous• 31 Mar 2009 20:51
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

There is nothing to explain. The LAW of conservation of energy (undoubtedly a law), states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Even the electricity we use is not created by us. It is converted either from the sun's energy which allowed the plants to grow, which then rotted and became oil, which is then burnt and generates heat which turns water into steam driving a turbine which induces electricity because it's a conducter being moved in a magnetic field or from sunlight (photons) which hit electrons and push them out of their position which represents a current and directly drives an electric load. In other words, since the universe exists energy is there, for free. We are charged for the delivery. But we cannot 'waste' it. The amount of energy available is not reduced!

By itsmeonly• 31 Mar 2009 20:32
itsmeonly

MD could u pls explain me how energey is converted for AD?

By anonymous• 31 Mar 2009 20:26
anonymous

Nothing is wasted in the universe, just converted. So, what are you lamenting about?

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