School locks up students for not paying fees
DOHA: In a shocking incident several students of a private school were allegedly “detained” for about six hours in a room in the school building without food or drinks for defaulting payment of school fees.
The students were forced to stay inside the room throughout the school hours – from 7am to 1pm.
The school authorities didn’t allow them even to go to the toilet, according to a report carried by Al Sharq yesterday.
The school also reportedly put a watchman to ensure that the students do not sneak out of the room.
“I came to know about the incident when my daughter came back from the school weeping. When I asked the reason she explained what she and some other students had experienced in the school on that day,” the paper quoted a mother as saying.
According to the parent’s version, a watchman came and called her daughter just before the classes started.
When asked where she was being taken to, the watchman said, “ to the zoo.”
Then he led the girl to a large room where several boys and girls from different grades had been put up.
“They were not given food or drinks and were not allowed to go out even during the break. An eight-year-old girl passed urine inside the room, having been denied permission to go to the toilet,” the parent was quoted as saying.
She said this girl was in a psychological shock after the incident and was not willing to go to school.
The next day morning the said parent went to the school to enquire about the incident but was not allowed in. There were about six other parents who came for the same purpose.
“We were told to wait outside until the school is closed at 1pm. After half an hour, a public relations official came and told us that the students were punished for not paying the school fees. He also told us that they will not be allowed in the school again until they pay the arrears,” said the parent.
When the parents insisted to meet the school officials, they were told that the decision to punish the students was taken by the school director and he was not available at that time.
After too much persistence the parents were allowed to meet the deputy director, a woman, who said she was helpless since the decision was taken directly by the director.
“Finally we got the director over telephone who promised to come and meet us in half an hour. But he didn’t come though we waited for long. Even more surprisingly, he justified the action of the school and said it will be repeated if we are not paying the fees,” the parent was quoted as saying.
“Such behaviour is not suited to any educational institution. We are calling on the authorities to take appropriate action,” said the parent.
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i would hate to see something happen to you... you know you can not upset big brother,,,,call me a piece of crap face to face anyday but not behind your screen your really showing your asian style here again... have agreat Australian holiday all Australians today
why is that DD because I'm not a Asian hating racist piece of crap that you quite clearly are?
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watch out for love bits on your leg of lamb in your fridge for sure as they say... but knowing the high relationship betweem aust and K1W1 i find it hard to see you call yourself a KIWI,, i would say your asian hiding as a K1W1..... like some others i know here ....am i right???? thank you
I don't have to go running to the mods DD, your racist crap will see you outta here at some stage, I bet OZ is glad to see your back...and Australia treat the Aboriginal people so well. Lets not start comparing countries when it comes to racism DD, you will lose hands down. Crawl back underneath your rock. For an aussie you have a poor grasp of the english language, not surprising for an ex-convict colony I suppose!
someone needs to be locked up for sure
does DD from western or northern?
wow, great English! Lol!
Yes i will show you respect so you dont have to go running to the mod again, dont worry big brother is watching you also and your commets... when i lived in NZ i feel your kind was the worst if i remember rightly..we will stay in touch for sure..DD
oh poor DD is the sheep joke the best you can come up with....try harder next time, and cut the racist crap spouting from that vile key board of yours. I've noticed when you can't reply intelligently to a post out comes the racist side!
DD you are a disgrace to OZ, if thats actually where you come from, as you english is pretty piss poor, you might not agree with Flor, as do I in plenty of posts but there is no need for the down right disgustings comments like above....you are truly from the convict conlony!
keeps barking!
Lpark, this thing is not acquired through sneaking other's property but it's rampant from your movies, toilet sceens.
i did not ever see a case like this back hone NO, but where did i say to you ,,are you seriously saying there are no cases of child abuse in the West
i think this is an added comment from the back field by you, Secondly, how did you come to this that i comment of the bad treatment of kids now you say that i ,,,,Drovers... For a person coming from a country founded by convicts you seem to think very highly of yourself. You are the head of class tosser for sure Ben.. child abuse is what it is and most her say SO,, what could they do the teachers and the security guard, they would of been asked if they speak up,, flock me what are they in the position of children care in the first place,, as i will always say if you don’t know the meaning of the English word, DUTY OF CARE get off the topic,,, and i hope your kids never have to go thru that
DD I agree with you in that there should be a duty of care, but the reality of it is we live in Doapy Doha so if a teacher (and that includes white westeners) came out against this they would be sacked, end of!! Thats the harsh reality of it. Most people on this forum agree this is a horrible sick issue, so get off your high horse like you are the only one against this. And cut the Asian racist crap!
Drovers... For a person coming from a country founded by convicts you seem to think very highly of yourself.
Why not mention the name of the school? I personally think this story is B.S. as it's a known procedure those that don't pay don't get their credits or records realized and can't pass the class. So I seriously doubt they were locked up and not able to use the bathroom, so what you had a bunch of kids in a class room going in their pants, please!!
there shoulod be some kind of rule as far as posting outrageous stories such as " PROVIDING AN ACCURATE SOURCE" because no offense but some readers on here are so damn gullible and easily brainwashed it's pathetic and sad.
DD... First of all learn to write in English.
Secondly, are you seriously saying there are no cases of child abuse in the West? Your Prime Minister went on the air to apologise for systemic child abuse in state care, affecting over 500,000 children.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8361389.stm
datuabo, how do you know? Have you seen Westerners sh++ting? You should not do that, sneaking into other people's toilets. Voyeur!
this is advantage to institutions here that no media to broadcast their wrong doing and same way no journalist being killed.
I don't think any parent purposefully will not pay the school fee for their beloved children, it is because of they are working with bad companies and not paying on time. First govt should take necessary action for non-paying companies. If the media can not mention the name of the school they should not publish this incident?!! we should know about this school, where such inhumans are working. How safe our kids in their school??!!!
One thing that only hender me from liking western is knowing them using tissue when cleaning in the toilet no offense but it's your way of life.
who keeps telling me I am antagonistic towards Western and yet kept quiet about this GAy KAngaroo Dog who keeps badmouthing Asians!
Double standard? Guess so.
GKD, for your info and put this in your little brain, if this thing happened in our country, this director will definitely NOT go to jail, for the parents will unite in throwing him/her to the hungry DOGS. And like you, if you keep on the same thinking about us, even your fellow dogs will not accept you in their stomach, so better shut up!
why the indian way GSJ?????
the news came in a news paper, a kid denied to even use the toilet.
whats so exaggeration in this??
there is 23% truth, rest is cooked up and exaggerated.
The Indian way, the Indian culture...
Liars!!
My country schools don't do that, they will not allow student to take exams untill he/she pays fees instead but if the student can't really pay, schools are no choice but to allow students to take exam or the teeth of regional board will soumund the school head.
Hello,
This is wrong and unwise decision that should not be taken & happened again. regarding getting school fees there are many proper way and means that they can follow it,
Hoping of not hearing such terrible incident again.
Degrading...simply degrading action, no matter what.
What would the director of that SH*T Hole school do if her daughter was prevented to use the toilets and had to pee in front of other boys and girls? There are NO excuses, whatsover, for the way the children were treated.
Let's hope this matter has come to the attention of the SEC. And let's hope they do something about this.
I see someone mentioning DUTY OF CARE here. Dream on my friend if you believe this is something people here are familiar with. Nonetheless, I still believe we all owe a duty of care to each other.
Teachers are bound by their ethics, if not by their moral duties, to protect the children under their care during school time. Clearly the ones at that school have failed big time.
Late payment or fee default is not students' fault, SEC must take action against the person responsible.
I would directly complain to Ministry of Education...newspapers are not much valued here...or complain to Al Jazeera....REALLY!! if this happened to me...theyll get it....they will really get IT!!
really the BIG BOSS, then your duty is to obey orders. Or pack your things and hope you can go home safe and sound. Even the Assistant Director said she could not do anything, so the best thing is for the parents concern to file a formal complaint against this heartless Director (or whoever ordered her/him) to order the detention! All we can do is learn from this incident. If it happen in our home country, there are other ways to get even!
govt should close that hell and put in prison all those teachers and authorities who did this such cheap thing with those innocent students,,,,,,,,,,,,that is really shameful for qatar shool communities.
I don't know what more they could do other than get sacked!
OH PLEASE,,,, my your god help you and your thinking,, back to the rice fields if we complain,,, DUTY OF CARE helooooooooooooooo
Well, its the parent's mistake not paying the fees; how can anyone possibly justify the school athorities punishing kids for that? The school has every right to communicate to the parent to NOT send their kids if the fees are not paid within a certain date. But detention and mental torture of kids cant be justified on any grounds whatsoever, IMHO.
The kind of dent it can make in the mind of a kid in such a vulnerable age should not be underestimated.
The teachers didn't make this decision the Director did, it also says the child was called out before classes started so no doubt the teachers didn't have a clue. You say "in the real world", well HELLO DD we are in Doha, doesn't resemble the real civalised world alot of the time. Other than the teachers storming the locked room I don't know what more they could do other than get sacked!
The schools hold the children of their own free will. Its called kidnapping. They held them for ransom,, HAVE TO LATE PAY SCHOOL FEES, not many Asian know about DUTY OF CARE by the school. If somebody complains and say QATAR bribed the officials for the 2022 cup oh the whole country wil stand up and complain about the lies, but lock up innocent kids and hold the against there will and its, “ WHAT …. SO WHAT THE PROBLEM… you scare me.. lucking my kids are at boarding school back in Australia…
How did the watchman knew the students name ?
Obviously, the teacher or someone might have told him to bring the students to the torture room...i mean to class room ?
Did the guard just have a (removed by Mods) and just do this on his own back, Did he, what did the teachers do to protect the safety of the children in their care??? HELOOOOO sorry but in the Real World there is a system called DUTY OF CARE…. But yes most people her would not understand this meaning, let me say it again………….. DUTY OF CARE…
DD why should the teachers be put in jail when the post said a watchman came and got the girl before class....this watchmen and the directors are the ones who deserve to be behind bars
Yep, in a "civilized" country (except the USA) detainment is only allowed for the police or with an order from a judge. Everything else is considered kidnapping!
the teachers should be placed in jail and be charged with kidnapping,, simple as that,, whay will happen NOTHING
Open your eye so you'll see the difference! Lol!
Children always get punished for their parents' mistakes! Example: the children of Ghaddafi or Mubarak!
children?
Indeed a Shocking Incident, but both are at fault, be it the School or the Parents...
Parents should submit the fees on time, moreover School Director's Action was unethical and unacceptable....
Hope the Supreme Council of Education takes action against the School...
There must be, and for that I would aggree for corrective measures, but just because their school fees were delayed doesn't give the school the right to detain the kids (not an iota). Reaction here is bloated you say? How and what would you do if it were done to your kids? There was already an initial infraction by the school, but what did the authorities did? Here lies the underlying problem in this place, if they have connections they can't be punished. The reason why most things don't get fixed here is because of a system: wasta, and everything gets swept under the rug.
before you open your BIG mouth! What a stupid remark!
is to find you and throw you out of Qatar. You think NOTHING is good here, why are you staying?
Then they will deal with this PRIVATE school!
Drovers Dog, Do you really want to prove to the whole world what a S*** Hole you are living in?,Where does that put your dignity in?
Qatar is 40 years old, DD. Their laws fit in one book. Law has to grow over centuries!
What will the authorities do about it ..... wel this i would love to hear,, ok FLOCK ALL
My god and QATAR is WHAT,, advanced??, civilized?? This is a SHAME ON QATAR,, so what will the authorities do about it .. FLOCK ALL… this is one for sure I will post on my face book account to show all the people back home how bad a state QATAR is,, SHAME ON QATAR
Thanks, PD. I remarked that I didn't know how it was now.
LP,Thaleb group is not an Indian entity,thier Indain partner for education left long back, you may google for the name of the owner who IMHO is an Arab.
Yea , the kids needed to be spared for the action of the parents, Banning them from entring the school permises looks to be the best way.
Genesis, the teachers are again not at fault. It's the management (formerly the Taleb Group, managed by an Indian company - I don't know if that's still the case). Therefore you should say, the management of this school is the worst of any private school in Qatar.
wow, is that a defense? Do we even have to assume the psychological impact of that action to the children? Do the worst thing on me personally but never on my child! I will kill for my child! My fault, my punishment! My child has nothing to do with it! Got the message?
From earlier threads in QL, it seems this school is one of the worst private schools in Qatar.
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/193488
Polkadot, it is not the childrens' fault at any time. And as you might know collaterale punishment is forbidden in Qatar!!
I am not in favor of closing school down As it will effect other students. But they should compensate parent & student which suffer
& The guy who give such order Should go though toughest punishment ... they should give him to each parent for a day. and then put him in jail
The whole reaction to this incident looks blown out of proportion, IMHO. It is a common practice to detain students during break as a form of corrective measure. The students are asked to sit in the class- in Detention, without joining their friends in the playground, so that they learn that their action was wrong and not to repeat it.
Now the school seems to have taken the same measure when the fee was not paid, however if not letting the kids go to the toilet or have food is true, was a bit too harsh. They ideally should have just been detained from attending the lessons, IMHO....
If the owner is an Al Thani they won't close the school.
Cambridge ... cool i was about to get my son into that school ...
I don't think so Parents should be blamed to justify such kind of act. The 100+ ways to get the message to parents. Call them up on phone easiest one. [ ask them they might have some problem like getting salary late which is common here & give them sometime
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Don't let students in the school in morning .. send Notice .. ( i am not sure if School did it )
partly blamed. The school could have just not allowed the children in the campus and returned home! Why the detention? No amount of REASONING will make the school right in their action. IT IS PLAIN WRONG! It's either they start chopping heads there or close that school totally!
Brit, some parents don't get their salaries on-time, and that's why they are unable to pay the fees on-time. As I said: it's a problem that rests deeply in this society.
Read the post from genesis...
Whilst I find the action deplorable, I feel that perhaps the reaction is a bit over the top. The parents should take part of the blame also.
please name the school ... So that other people are careful while dealing with such _________________
abuse of children etc etc. This school doesn't deserved to be called a school. No amount of reasoning can the school raise for such stupid action. It should be sued. Let the school sue the parents but I doubt if authorities will weigh more the complaint of the school against non-paying parents than all legal matters that could be thrown against this school!
Can't name the offender? Heck! So, just like that and woe to the parents who will enroll their children there? You don't have to be a lawyer to know that locking up someone is illegal, if not a crime! :(
And this is the 2nd offense! SEC, hello!! Give those pseudo-educators a taste of their own medicine! Where'd these people went to school? Univ. of Alcatraz? Kudos to genesis for giving us a name!
Why did the head let this happen, those poor kids.
The action of the school is inappropriate. But it is also inappropriate to ask for a service (education) and not pay the fees. The fees are used to pay the teachers' salaries. Now they don't get their salaries, and so on, and so on. There is a certain attitude among the population here not to pay on-time! It's a cultural issue and you can find it in every business in Qatar. Even the government does not pay on time!!
I think the school should be named and shamed as someone rightly said and this director def needs to have some legal action taken against him. What a Shame!
why the news not mention the school's name?
The controversy started with a tweet by a parent to the SEC account on twitter complaining that the Cambridge school Doha detained his son for a delay in paying the tuition fee Due to miscommunication from school authorities , the child was scared & crying!!!
It's worth Mentioning that this is the second year in a row that this school takes the same discipline, the same was reported last year & investigated by SEC
Prominent Qatari Writer Maryam Al Saad questioned SEC supervisory role over private schools in Doha & whether it is assessed
Private schools get away with many things....
the school should be named and shamed ! :(
The name of the school should have been mentioned in the news. What they did was really harsh and may cause trauma to the students.
In that case they should change the management...pronto! Besides I think continuing education is such a school would be more damaging for kids. I can't imagine them learning much compassion and morals from such oppressive individuals!
Closing school will effect lot of children. As the academic year is in final stage. Better SEC penlised the school authorties so no other school try to repeat such incident.
Schools/Nurseries are nothing but business here!
This is so so saaaaaaaad! As a mom and a human being I find this very sickening and barbaric.I actually feel the pain those poor kids would have felt.Imagine their fear,pain and embarrassment! Hope and pray the so called school is properly penalized and better still closed down for good. Such heartless individuals are a disgrace to all those noble people in the educational field.
whats happening with the schools these days?
sad
and SEC should start a psyclogical tests for the school management prior to their appointment.
This is published in newspapers. Hope Minsitry of Education will take strict action on this issue.
WTH...should sue them!!...if they want to take such uncivilized action...why on earth they have a fine for late payment??
the name of the school cannot be mentioned. could be an international school that is sprouting up every other day promising the sky....
i am a mother of two. literally i was crying while reading this. oh my god..how harsh they r. we should keep that director in dark room for 2 days without water and food. which school is that? wat is director name?
I was not here. you are right that now a days we are getting such stories.
But even if some students can't pay the fee on time there is now law here that they can be locked in a room.
Some Louzy school.. Needs to be closed. Why children need to suffer.?
WTF ? how can they do this to the children ?
Is this some kinda prison or wat ?
They should report the matter to Minsitry of Education and close this effin school...
If i was one of the parent i would have kicked everyone and made them apologize to my kids for this action.
Wonder which school that is?
chaudry..how you doing?
I heard about the incident through Arabic Daily and it is really shame. School related abuses and incidents are on the rise in the country. SEC should act tough.
On the other hand, parents should abide by the deadline for fees submission. The fees we pay is the fuel to run the private educational insutition.