Job offer evaluation
Hello to everybody,
i'm new to this forum and i wish to have your helpful and detailed opinions about a job offer which i have received together with my wife from a construction company in Doha.
About my offer, i will take care about the foreign affairs department of the company while my wife will work as an architect, both we have 5 years of experience.
The pacakge includs: 5000qar(for me)+5000qar(for wife)/basic salary, accomodation offered 3500qar/m, car offered 1700qar/m, health medical card, air tickets.
We have a small kid(2 years).
We have a normal lifestyle, no excesses.
Reading lot of topics about accomodation costs, we have lot of questions about what kind of appartment we must expect with the amount offered by the company.
We are evaluating this offer and we need your advices about livinf costs, saving,...
Thanks
Company accommodation will be as per your company rules. Accomodation provided by company does not mean it has to be in specific location. For us, its like we select where we live and company pays for it.
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
Please can somebody tell me about the status of the companies accomodations? are they old,news, if they are located in or out of Doha...
Thanks
Mandi said -
"One of the possible advantages of company housing is that it may come with phone, cable and internet. You want to check as these can be expensive and difficult to arrange.
Mandi"
So I replied - "Mandilulur a simple visit to LULU can fix this.Get a Mozaic. ..."
What I meant was - It is not difficult to get cable,internet etc at all and Qtel has an outlet at LULU Hypermarket where you just need to go and fill up a form and they will provide you their service - Cable,Internet and Landphone for just 250 QR per month.
I hope this helps!
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
"A simple visit to LULU can fix this.Get a Mozaic." what's mean?
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
what can i understand is that this offer isn't so bad but it isn't enough appropriate..
So of course i have to negotiate minimum about my basic salary and i must have from them more informations about what kind of accomodation they are offering. right?
No more suggestions?
One of the possible advantages of company housing is that it may come with phone, cable and internet. You want to check as these can be expensive and difficult to arrange.
Mandi
much the going rate for a one bedroom nowadyas anyways. So your company is not offering you anything better than the market. And I'am sure they will deduct your HRA. Dont let them take you for a ride. You should negotiate with them as ,in my opinion and knowing the market, they are looking at both of you joining together as some kind of 'package deal' and hence they are discounting your individual worth.
Ususally companies offering 'accomodation' do not pay you the HRA and I have found that it's always better to deny the 'company accomodation' and find a place yourself. It's much more convinient and economical.
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
Its always better to ask for accommodation rather than the allowance for it. Rents keep fluctuating.
Mandilulur thank You very much for this important information...I will negotiate about it.
Please more answers on my questions
Thanks
They are offering a 1 Bedroom appartment at 3500 qar/month
No, it will not be enough. There needs to be only one sponsor making over 7000 base salary.
Mandi
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
If there is somebody who can explain me about the status of apartments allowed by companies generally and for which they differ from other appartments...
Details are appreciated
Thanks
Ok but to sponsor my child, between me and my wife we will have 5000+5000= 10000. this will not be enough?
This is what I was thinking too... you need atleast 7000+ so you can sponsor your wife and kid
After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F...
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
Hmm, I'm wondering who/how would you sponsor your child? The minimum base salary required to sponsor a wife/child is 7000. Thus you can see you are below minimums for a professional/family status.
Mandi
I am giving you the figures which may give you an idea about cost of living in Qatar for couple.
QAR (Per Month) For 2 Persons
4,500 House Rent (Furnished)1 BHK appartment (2 BHK 6500)
1,500 Groceries+ Misc exps.
1,600 Car Hire / OR Loan installment + Petrol
33 Land Line Rent
50 Mobile Rent OR Prepaid Card
100 Water Charges
100 Electricity
200 Internet at home
75 Television Channel Connection
120 VOIP Call Card to call home country
200 Car Insurance (2500/12)if you own your car
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8,478 Total
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One Time Exps.
1,000 Deposit for Water Connection
1,000 Deposit for Ele. Connection
4,500 House Rent Deposit
2,000 Driving Classes Fees (Appx.)
250 One Time Mobile activation Charges
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8,750 Total
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Not included Medical Insurance & Return Air Fare for family once in a year as most of the companies are taking care of it.
Evaluate your offer with with above and your present income and life style.
listen , as for your wife a lebanese architect with 5 years experience 5000 is peanuts...minimum 12000
as for you 5 years experience i beleive for P.R.O same 5000 is peanuts...minimum 8000
accomodation 3500 for a family of three is also peanuts...minimum 5000
airtickets ok
but as mr. qatar said ,come and try for six months!!!
good luck
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I'm Jack's complete lack of surprise
Ask them to provide you a two bedroom accommodation instead of allowance, because…even though the rents are coming down...its difficult to find a 2 bed apartment for 3500.
Cost of living is high...for food.. a family of three you might need QR.2000/- and for your utility bills you need QR.500..and with little entertainments....you maybe able to save 3 or 4 thousand riyals.
What happens is…. after coming here... when you see the life style and salary of people from your country with similar qualification and experience... you might feel bad…
But then again it depends on what you are making in your country at the moment..
Try to negotiate…ask for min. seven thousand basic..
All the best:)
Check out this thread..you will get an idea
http://www.qatarliving.com/answers/cost-of-living/how-much-should-i-expect-to-save-in-20000-pm
Thank you mr_qatar for your advice, i will consider this option...
But most of my questions are still without answers..
Please, if there is some expertise that can illustrate the actual situation up to date about costs, accomodations,...
I read in this site a lot of details about cost of living but there are a little bit old.
Thank you all once more
If you are a Lebanese this is far not enough for you and your family......
join it on 6 months contract.. if you feel that its good & you feel that your life is going smoothly then extend your contract but if you feel any problem then start search for better one..& resign from this after 6 months
"War is not fought to determin who is right, only who is left".
Please can you give more details?
For example, what about accomodations offered by the companies at that price and how there differs from the normal ones?
maybe this offer is not enough for the standard but it can be enough to live decently and save something?
What's the cost of a normal living up to date?
I will be gratful if i can have more detailed opinions
thanks
Not a good offer as per the normal standards...