IS QR 8,500 enough to leave in Qatar?
I am being offered a job in Doha as a Manager. They Offer QR 8,500, free single accommodation, all utilities paid including cable and internet (not land line which I dont need as they also provide cellphone and allowance). And also the typical expat package, tickets, medical, and so on. I like dine out once a week, groceries once a week for one person, and go out once a week for few drinks (dont drink too much). Then eventually I want to buy a car, cheap as possible but comfortable and with AC of course. Any other tips about life in Qatar would help in my decision.
Thanks
Are you talking about the QL forum or this topic thread?
Enjoy yourself!
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LIVE TO THE MAX, Danny!
Excellent, thank you. Well after a lot of thinking....I have declined the job, It will be lovely to be in Qatar and learn about the culture and put and up with so many stupid rules, it could be kind of fun. But just for the right price, and QR8,500 is not.
I want to deeply want to thank y'all.
Have a great weekend, and remember.....dont go to the mall! they wont let you in, its friday, the day single people are not free to go to a mall! :) I am in the caribbean now, I will have a beer while driving, and then maybe go to the mall. lol.....just kidding!!! I am sure I will receive some nice comments after this, but just from people with no sense of humor, smart asses!
just use common sense. Don't drink and drive especially. Zero tolerance for that sort of thing.
there are definitely certain things not to be done :)
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What about Doha being dangerous? I heard it is a pretty safe country, but I am sure there are certain things not to be done, or places not to be at certain times of the day. ??? thanks.
I mean the clothes...shoes and everything..
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Try to negotiate to add tranportation allowance for about QR 2000 more or less. Aside from that QR 8500 is fine. You can save up to 4T-5T depends on your life style and expenses. By the way as much possible try to buy clothes in your own country that you've be using for 1 year coz here its very expensive. alright. Good luck!
among all nationalities now. I have some male American colleagues who were stopped from entering the Landmark and Villagio on Family Day.
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Friday is family day and I think that is in most malls. It is not that a man and a woman have to enter together, they have family day as people complained because all the labourers come into the malls in big groups with no intention of buying anything. All they do is stare at the woman. The malls are really busy at the weekends so that is why they limit it to families and people who will spend money.
If you attempt to pass through guards and into the mall alone, be sure luck is on your side...
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Thanks Andee, very good information and advice.
For Birdiee, with some of you guys I see I have to be verrry specific. Single accommodation on my side means, 1 flat 1 person, "single" NOT SHARED. I know I have internet there might be a phone, but they will not paid for the use, might paid for the rent, I dont care about that.
Eugene...what do you mean is family day and I shouldnt go out shopping??
It's ok. Well, I've been here for two months, I spend about QR 200-300 per week mainly on food and cigaratte, other expenses all covered. FYI I cook mostly during weekdays and eat out during weekends like what I used to do in London.
I'm well entertained at home with internet access and cable TV. There's nothing much interesting here that encourage me to spend. I'd rather save some money and travel to more interesting countries every 3 months.
In short, it depends on your life style really, but at first instance when u decide to move here u already know u have to give up on that!
p/s if u are single u should stay home during weekend coz it's family day and u shouldn't go to shopping mall to spend money.
pls dont try to find a "mistake" in the typing or the matter.
he says it is a "single" accommodation, then it must be a flat shared by 2-3 "singlers"
all utilities paid including cable and internet (not land line which I dont need as they also provide cellphone and allowance)
One cannot have internet without Land line unless its a shared connection in a shared housing.
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thats why I told you can save 1000$, if you live modestly
Max Dan you will love it.... dont listen to those that are trying to scare you off... what they are offering is not really great but its a hell of a lot better than what a lot of people here are earning, and your basic things are taken care of... once you get here you will be able to gage where to eat a "decent" meal - where not to go "too expensive" and so on.... just cause its 5 star does not mean its a great meal...there are millions of eating places around...
Living in this part of the world is an experience in itself...You will like it if you are as "adaptable" as you say your are... If you are coming with a view that its gonna be the same as the WEST and want everything to work that way - you will be dissapointed... Life here is a lot slower... and I mean a lot.....
Well, it depends.. if u're a person that is not wasting ur hard earned money to unnecessary things, salary would be okay. But consider comparing the value of what you will get here from the current salary that you are getting in your home country, then you decide.. =)
you've got free food since u'r workin' in a hotel :D....free food & accomodation....like my brother in law :D
"BRING IT ON DUDE!!!"
thanks
one of my cousin who is earning 40,000 riyal in cisco who says, Qatar is very expensive.
other end those are working as securities, waiters....those are earning just 450 qr...how their life in Qatar.
where ever you stay or earn-it always depends what kind of life you choose to live.
be satiesfied with what you have. otherwise it will taken back, and once again it will not given back. that is natures policy.
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Yes, my grocery bill is quite high: it is for me and my housekeeper and I do buy what I want. I do not spend another 2500 eating out. Please read more carefully before you feel the need to be a smart-a*s about my appetite :-)
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Hi Guys, thank you very much for all of your info and time that you are putting on these, to be honest I am very impressed by your help, thanks a million!!
With the "leave" thing, hahaha, I know sorry about that, I was sleepy when I put that up and my brain played me bad. How can i edit this?
Well guys to be honest I am super confused now, I dont know if it is worth it to go or not, I would love to go to Qatar and work, I dont have a problem with adjusting to different type of country and culture, but I do like to do what I have mentioned above.
Groceries, going out once a week, movie theater, maybe get a car, etc.
I guess companies once they give you a salary offer they dont like to go up if you ask for it? Or is there any where else I can apply for work in Doha with good salaries and benefits?
i dont think you need 8500QR to "Leave" qatar. maybe around 4000QR to get a ticket in Qatar Airways to "Leave" qatar ....... lol ...... :D
Just joking .. few of my freinds are getting almost the same salary and they are really happy with it ..but again..its depends on how you gonna live here :)..
Good Luck
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ops, you are so right! let's shake it out of him!!!
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yeahhh...and still no prize from Qatari! :(
i knew it, Draccy.. great minds... you know...:):)
no wonder both yours and mine quotes got into "Qatar Today"..:):)
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that's my first point/post! :)
I think, since the accommodation is provided by the company, 8500 is not too bad...
To maintain a modest lifestyle he needs:
1500 for the car,
1500 grocery,
1000 entertainment,
1000 other.
He still can save about $1000
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QR 8,500 salary to leave in qatar or to live in Qatar??
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PM, i am impressed by your 2,500 grocery!
If I was alone, this amount would probably be enough for at very least 3 months for me... :):)
and on top of that dinig out for another almost 2500?? wow..such a healthy appetite. I envy you..:):)
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omar,,,,,,,,, ooopppssss salay?
v-- good salaryyyyyyy
with considerable interest and fees. If they accept your salary as qualifying then you shouldn't need a down payment. They will deduct automatically from your salary direct deposit.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
The banks here have gotten very strict on car loans now and even my colleagues who make twice that amount have not been able to get car loans. Don't forget that would require full insurance and annual registration. You may be stuck renting which as I said will cost you around 2000/month.
I still believe some people here are giving you advice that will probably not apply to you. I have a good friend from Ecuador here. She came here 4 years ago for 12,000. She does not have a uni degree and was working in administration for a large MNC. She lives a modest lifestyle and I asked her what she thought of this salary being offered to one of her countrymen. She thought it sounded low and you would not be happy with the lifestyle it afforded you here, as well as unable to save much.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
everything in Qatar costs more than the US (except gasoline) so figure that in your calculations. It can easily cost $8 for a box of cereal.
MaxDan after u reach doha u will come to know so no need tension ..
I am not in Qatar right now....thats why.
why dunt u ask bank ?
about the car....when I get a loan do I have to give a starting fee? or how does this work there? I guess if you buy like a vitara, you pay 1,500QR for how long? 24 months? give me a little more info if someone knows about this please. thanks.
Also the 6 months review they said they will put it on the contract
Ok, thank you very much for all of your information. It sounds like my offer it is not the worst, but it also it is not so fair. Must of you are right, I will be working a lot, and well eating at home maybe once a day, somthing simple and maybe during my only day off something else.
I just wanted to make sure this was not so bad, as from my point of view, it is less than what I was making recently and plus that I have to work an extra day a week, it seems a little crazy for me and it is not very encouraging, but at the end of the day I have no job right now and also the opportunity could be good in the long term "careerwise".
Good pointer about the car, cause I do not want to rent, cause it is too much money for the 2 years I will spend there, when i could just pay for it monthly and own it, then sell it before I leave, right?
Thanks again.
WELCOME 2 Qatar........................& Qatar living,
as a single ur salary is
8500 ok ...............( remember : now the whole world facing financial crisis )
don't fell in their trap as they claim that they will review your performance after 6 months and my raise it to QAR 10K because its only a VERBAL COMMITMENT not written. So they cannot be trusted at all !!!!!
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As a MANAGER of a HOTEL, its very less but again if you have a simple/moderate lifestyle then it will be ok for you after reading that most of important expenses (Accomodation, Mobile,Utility Bills) are taken care by your Employer.
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I would say get Brand New car through Bank [Bank's representative are usually have a desk in Car showroom] and you will have to pay 1k -1500 Monthly only if you go for cheap but reasonable cars e.g. [Mitsubishi Lancer, Nissan Tida, Suzuki Vitara etc]
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Anyhow, GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR NEW JOB IN QATAR
Welcome to Qatar MaxDan.. You'll be fine..
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as far as i understand Americans are one of the highest paid nationality in Qatar, esp. ur in a managerial position.
usually they based your salary in accordance to your cost of living back home.
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OMG, well it sounds like 8,500QR is not good. I mean as I wrote in the topic. Yes my salary is QR 8,500 straight to my pocket.
Expenses:
Grocery once a week, keep in mind I work all day so just one meal a day at home.
Nice dinner out once a week
Transport to work as I have no car, so that already is 1,000QR in taxis.
Once a week going out to a bar or club, but I dont drink that much.
Movies maybe 2-3 times a month.
I dont pay for phone, or house rent, or utilities, it has all been taken care of.
I dont really want to make a bad choice and take this job if the pay is not fair, taking in consideration that respectfully on that side of the world you work 6 days a week.
They mentioned that after 6 months they can review the salary and maybe up to 10,000.
And I thought I had it bad
to drink or eat in 5-star restaurants. I usually eat at Thai Snack, Far East or get Shawarma. I do live modestly, although I go to one movie a week, coffee 2-3 times each week and I have cable. I call my family in the States once a week. I do buy fresh fruit, vegetables, meat, fish and chicken and my grocery bill is a bit high I admit. I rarely shop. And I still couldn't do that on less than 5000/month.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
if your money will be your own (if ur single and not supporting any family at all), then u'll be able to save...
does QAR8500 means your basic salary only, right? that's good...
try to search other thread related to salary and benefits...
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most of the quereis coming QL is realy confusing,
One cannot give an advise, without knowing the persons living style. There are people, who go to drink in 5* hotels, dine out in Chilis-APplebees-LeNotre....
there are people who do these in B-Grade places
It all dpends on lving style
that is why I ensured "lving modestly" and he is not a Westerner
and it would surprise me if anyone could rent/buy a decent car, pay groceries, eat out, pay for personal phone calls, pay for gas and incidentals AND buy alcohol on that amount. I find it really hard to fathom how he could save QR 3650/month but if he figures it out, I hope he'll let me know! :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Birdie, thank you very much for the useful information. You sound like you work in hotels, do you?
Equador, you may be able to save 1000 USD in a month.
( in case you are provided accommodation )
for drinks, -- better you ask for a permit from the Hotel, instead of going to bar, which is expensive
car, better to wait and see, how well u are adjusted with the country. If u purchase now and had to leave the country within 6 months, you will be at loss, to sell the car.
ohmyevil..you're the first one who told me.. Dracula The Great :"You guys have no sense of humor" :p
What is your blood group?
Just for my records..:)
How do i edit a forum?
you are welcome. so now you know... how risky it is to mix whiskey to your driving.. :-). Never try it.
Shyams! thank you buddy for the information, I had no idea Qatar forbids drinking and driving, for some crazy reason I thought everyone in Qatar drinks and drives....very helpful information....nice pic too....hahhahaha.
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Do not flood the main forum...you could have edited the first one instead of repeating the post.
Regards!!
Then you are welcome here.. once caught driving drunk.. apart from your company cover you are entitled for free food for a year followed with free flight to home (economy class, sorry)..... so as your question goes, you can LEAVE Qatar with that money.. lol
Jesus....You guys have no sense of humor....relax....it was just a joke....I learnt that now from Qatar, (mental note) dont make jokes....I dont drink and drive. thanks.
I have yet to see a company that covers running red lights and they can't get you out of jail on drunk driving.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
dont try to think about "drunk driving"!
You cant be "covered" in the jail!
This is Qatar, man..not Ecuador!
Thanks Dracula, but my company covers all my stupidities in transit. So I am cover with Red Lights and driving drunk. lol.
NO!
It's not legal to have a second job!
if you are an American, then it will not help you. if you are an Asian you can live a life of luxury and save 2000
are there any other ways to make money while working in this place? I mean considering that salary is low and you work 6 days a week. 12 hours a day.
traffic fines:
- speed: 500 QR
- red signal: 6000 QR
I think that offer is low and you would either sacrifice standard of living or savings. I don't see how you could do it all and still save on that amount.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Enough to "live in Qatar" may be different. Cheap car rental like a Nissan Sunny will run you about QR2000; my groceries run me about QR2500; My mobile runs me about QR 1000; and miscellaneous expenses (gas, eating out, movies, cable, entertainment, etc.) run me about QR 2500. That is with my housing, internet, and air tickets covered.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
It is in a hotel, as Manager, so you think is not fair??? Cause I have already mentioned that I would like a better offer but they say they cant really offer more, and I am worried this will not be enough to safe money and still have a good life. Plus eventually safe from that salary to buy a car as I described.
For tourism/hotels management position, it's ok but not fair.
You are alone, with decent life style...
You can save 3-4000 QR/month