PORK FORBIDDEN
(this is just a information regarding ISLAM which we believe, ignore it if u feel bad, some time you may have the question why am not eating the Pork, this is what I studied, its because of this reason, me and my religion is not stopping any one to do so other than that he or she is a Muslim, still recommend if u believe it is correct then as a human I will ask you to stop it, DON’T EVER TAKE IT AS I AM MAKING RELIGIOUS DIVERSIONS, NO AM NOT, I RESPECT EVERY RELIGION AND THEIR BELEIFS- PORK FORBIDDEN
Question:
Why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam?
Answer:
The fact that consumption of pork is prohibited in Islam is well known. The following points explain various aspects of this prohibition:
1. Pork prohibited in Qur’an
The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah." [Al-Qur’an 5:3]
The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.
2. Pork prohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".
"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."
[Leviticus 11:7-8]
Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]
A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verses 2-5.
3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases
the other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.
Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.
4. Pork has fat building material
Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.
5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
the pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta are cleared by pigs.
Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbor’s excreta.
6. Pig is the most shameless animal
the pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have not allowed with its mate.
"They don't wear Bikinies. They wear G Strings. Sexy Pigs :)"
There is actually *some* truth to this.
A friend of mine used to work in australia while studing forensics. Now knowing
the rate a human corpse decomposes at is vital for identifying the time of death
in some murders; unfortunatly scientists can't use human corpses unless they
work on the body farm in the US, so they use pigs because they are so similar
to humans (many organ transplants come from pigs). Of course a human corpse
wearing nothing will decompose faster than one wearing tight clothing, so to
get a wide range of data, they will actually dress the pigs up in clothes....
including g-strings, bras, corsets, etc...(as well as normal clothing) then leave them to decompose.
here
"In fact, I am sure many muslims on QL become quite offended at the sarcastic remarks relating to Pork."
Grow thicker skin?
and I wasn't being sarcastic when I said bacon is lovely, it is.
Ive enquired about this but it seems no hotels serve pork..
why would i be upset, i dont eat pork anyway
oops wrong place i guess
cheers
YOU DONT KNOW ME, DONT EVEN TRY !!!
And perhaps shaheen would like to let us know the reasons for posting the original articles? And why she did so by quoting the bible scriptures.
If you could let us know shaheed so we can clarify your intentions then that would be great!
I think if you guys went back to the original post you would see him using scriptures from the bible. Because many muslims use scripture to support their beliefs in Islam. And pork is one of them. I personally do not use this as proof..
And was then only responding to red popes post from a christian perspective. in which I then responded again to pm's post from both religious perspectives.
Using insight, I think the original poster probably wrote this to backlash on all the rude comments found everywhere on QL about how yummy and delicious pork is to eat while they know it disgusts muslims. In fact, I am sure many muslims on QL become quite offended at the sarcastic remarks relating to Pork. And even within this very thread one finds mainly sarcasm, outright rudeness, and childish behavior. Nothing seems to be taken seriously!
As adults who have left highschool perhaps it would suit us better to let our feelings known to the original poster that we are not happy he posted this article for A, B and C. RAther than making everything fun and games.
Which is why I appreciate the seriousness of your post scarlett!
"Make a difference or make way"
I think nowadays the human race is more filthy than anything on the planet ........
"let them be it is between them and their god, nothing to do with us the rest of the world."
I just wish everyone would have this attitude!
hehe if only i had accepted owen's proposal i'd have a lady's hand to do the cleaning lol!
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
sounds like mighty lotta cobwebs ehhhh but its just been wat 2 days??just holler if ya need some help..............>winks
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
well never been bitter...err i mean better, just cleaning my QL inbox of the cobwebs that were collected on 29th feb ;)
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
lol>smokey .....no more swearing kitty pls.......AMEN
so hows it shakin?ooopps i mean how you doing so early in this sunday morn kitty?
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Morning spicymommy :) OMG whats got into me? i've posted 3 times on religious topics lol that must be a record! No more i swear!
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
hey if anybody wants to eat , do, drink or watever for that matter that is against their religion , let them be it is between them and their god, nothing to do with us the rest of the world. cant stop anyone fr doing wat they set their hearts upon.there are other more important stuff to look into>is my utmost humblest and honestest opinion>cheers to green tea
btw morning smokey the coolestest cat
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Again...what gives us the right to scrutinize and question anything in the scriptures? if your religion tells u not to eat pork then DONT! I dont want someone quoting me verses from the bible telling me dont eat so and so animal, all creatures were created by God to serve man, and if man must eat animals to survive then so be it. Those last two points of this topic is really sad and just goes to show this persons inability to use something called a BRAIN. I agree with Scarlett, leave us to believe what we believe. Just coz others eat something that is forbidden in your religion doesnt mean you have to go around searching for things in the bible that says otherwise, heck i know plenty of muslims that do eat pork so get real and stop this nonsense.
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
Yes scarlett but if they (non muslims) made a genuine remark about the Quran as something that came from a fantasy .. then that would be a perception that they based on A,B and C. I have seen this several times in my short time on QL where people have questioned the motives of Mohammad PBUH himself. And that seems perfectly natural and acceptable to me since they are non-muslims.
I don't think its unfair to question the source of revelation within the bible. As a person who loves christ very much because I was raised and baptised as a christian ... my mother and her side of the family are all christian and my uncle was a preacher.
To me the passages also seem very straightforward. I don't see anywhere else in the bible mention that pork is allowed to eat. Accept the quote that I heard for the first time about Pauls dream that was quoted by Red Pope. And, unfortunately, I do have some serious reservations about who paul was. And if these passages are even really from him!
Just as pm mentioned earlier about scholars and opinions. And that to me is the reason i am glad that every scholar in Islam has the right to be scrutinized on whether they are right or wrong.
And ask you what is the basis one can scrutinize paul if not through revelation?
Certainly I am glad that we as a religious people can scrutinize our texts and beliefs. And that freedom of choice is something I hold very dear to my heart.
haven't seen hide nor hair for a while now...
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
SHAHEEN, r u alive???????
bunch of propaganda has made QL once again(not the first part, the last two!)...luckily it has been edited, least the last two...which always made me laugh..how moronic were those comments?? Any one who has EVER been to a poultry farm knows how filthy those animals are..but they aren't condemned..and yes, they eat their own feces also...heck they will eat large enough rocks that they die because they can't go out the other way. So if eating pork makes you wife swap, does eating chicken make you stupid??? The logic(?) on that issue eludes anyone with a thinking brain. Also..almost ANY animal will breed and allow other males to breed with the females..pigs are no different. Most farm animals are NOT monogamous. Obviously the author has not ever studied biology or the world of animals.
AND...from what I've read, beef actually is much worse for your circulatory system than pork. More cholesterol and artery clogging issues.
Some folks intrepretations of the Bible are just so way out there...Most of the non muslim QLers don't say that the Quran is based on something they think is fantasy....so why say what others believe in Jesus and the disciples, only based on dreams? The disciples spread the word of Jesus LONG after he was crucified, which is why you see a lot of their works in the Bible. They are the ones who witnessed the miracles and knew Jesus first hand. So, before you go slamming Christianity as "dreams", stop and think, please. Have enough respect for others' religious beliefs, even tho they are different than yours.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Kinda crispy is the way I like it, tho not hard enough to break your teeth, chewing the fat isn't the best. Should be unsmoked or honey cured, mmh, going back to the UK in a couple of weeks, can't wait for a buttie
i say aye to crispy bacon............>crunch crunch crunch
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
nooooo bacon is where it's at.....hell even vegetarians eat it!
The question that we should be debating is 'should bacon crispy or not?'
I say yes, the flavour is stronger and you don't have any chewy bits.
sweet and sour pork , pork chops.........., roasted pork......
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
you can't blame him for the content of the above post, it's a standard cut+paste which is making the rounds around plenty of religious forums, just google "Trichura Tichurasis" (the spelling of that parasite is wrong by the way)
Well yesterday I spent just under an hour correcting his "scientific" evidence along with sources...but my browser crashed when I hit 'post' and I lost it all:(
Needless to say, his "study" doesn't exist. The FDA have strict guidelines
for cooking times to prevent transmission of the parasite.
The only argument he has is the religious argument, and that's not going to
convince anyone else.
I have one hell of an argument to support the eating of pork.....BACON!
one bite of club sandwich
Now the Mullahs will destory La Cigale :) No They won't raise a voice if they know who the owner is :)
Gypsy - You told me this on Last Thrusday. Is it really true?
why are you trying to achieve by this fine by me if you dont eat we like it and will go on eating
That most of the people saying they speak for the Lord, expect you to believe that the Lord only uses them as a messenger. They hear what God says but they don't believe the Lord would speak to anyone else.
When anyone tells me they know what the Lord means and they have the only answer and they can read words written 200 years ago, only one way, RUN away, they are crazy.
People that can't think for themselves are very dangerous.
Here is a link. Lots of reading to do.
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/jesus_similar.html
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
yess...that is a sad youtube video...but you do know the baby isn't actually half pig right?
"When they say he could walk on water, I think of it like he could fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Literal people scare me, getting it wrong fundamentally, down at the church of 'Look it says right here see!" Ani Difranco
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I will compile a list, it will take awhile.
and anyway what 'life'? Do you accept all of these pagan gods as real?
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Adey when I mean life of a person...I mean start to end,
from the manger to the Cross, Give me one example.
The comparison is really very vague and ambigious....its like after 400 years telling ....hey Alexander, Gengis Khan, Hanibal and Hitler were the same guy....
And King Kans wanted to kill 8 of his Sister's children as the 8 th child was predicted to kill him. He did not want to rule out the outside chance that his sister had a miscarriage or unknown pregnancy.
So sooner he got them to impregnate the sooner he would get the task over with....but it did not happen. And Dwaraka did exist there are ruins off Gujrat Coast in India (Check out in Google earth).
No, only La Cigale has it, though I can't imagine the Ritz and Four Seasons not petitioning the government to get it as well.
"When they say he could walk on water, I think of it like he could fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Literal people scare me, getting it wrong fundamentally, down at the church of 'Look it says right here see!" Ani Difranco
I wonder how long it will take before they sell it in thier deli?
I got a text from a friend the other day who said they were enjoying Chicken Cordon Bleu with pork ham at La Cigale. I know for a fact they have the liscense to serve it, but they were deciding the best way to announce.
"When they say he could walk on water, I think of it like he could fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Literal people scare me, getting it wrong fundamentally, down at the church of 'Look it says right here see!" Ani Difranco
Lets throw chicken sausage from the rooftops, Pork is here!!!!
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Hark and Hear Ye All brethern of QL. Pork is yummy and tasty and NOW available at La Cigale's La Crillon restaurant. Go forth and gorge.
"When they say he could walk on water, I think of it like he could fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Literal people scare me, getting it wrong fundamentally, down at the church of 'Look it says right here see!" Ani Difranco
Just a bit about jesus, mithra, zoroasttianism and paul. The similarities with the other pagan gods are all there, I especially liked your reference to krishna's parents having children so the king could kill them - 'massacre of the innocents' anyone?
"In addition, Christianity adopted these doctrines from
Zoroastrianism: baptism, communion - the haoma ceremony, guardian
angels, the heavenly journey of the soul, worship on Sunday, the
celebration of Mithras' birthday on December 25th, celibate priests
that mediate between man and God, the Trinity, Zvarnah - the idea that
emanations from the sun are collected in the head and radiate in the
form of nimbus and rays, and asha-arta, "the true prayer". Centuries
later in Greece this became Logos or "true sentence" and like in Persia
it was associated with fire. Mithraism is widely considered to be a
syncretistic religion, that is: a combination of Persian, Babylonian
and Greek influences. However, the Greek influence seems to be limited
to the identification in Greece of Mithras with the Greek god Perseus.
The Babylonian influence seems to have been limited to astrology.
Perhaps, though, the Persian interest in astrology has been overlooked.
Zoroastrians worshipped at alters on hills and had a whole class of
professional Magi or priests who had lots of time on their hands to do
astrological research. Rather than a syncretistic religion, it would be
more proper to call Mithraism a Zoroastrian subcult. The center of the
Mithric cult was in Tarsus in Cilicia, Southeast Turkey. This is whence
Paul, the founder of the Christian church, came from as a young man.
Paul's insight on the road to Damascus was that instead of treating
Jesus as a false savior, he could be identified as the true savior if
combined with the new idea of "the second coming". That would cure the
embarrassing fact that nothing had come of Jesus' time on earth. The
rest was simple, Paul identified Jesus with Mithras and taught a
modified Mithraism. That got Paul branded as a heretic by the true
church and James the brother of Jesus. Eventually it cost Paul his
life. However, the Mithric ideas were so generally attractive that they
eventually won out."
source:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/religion/zoro.html
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
I know Paul is very much existed ....
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Attacks I can take because it just means they have no arguments. And I didn't think you were including yourself in that.
Was watching a US phone in show, everything was calm and respectful and a good discussion was being had on the nature of belief and knowledge. Then after eleven minutes the guy on the phone, because he could not stand the fact that he could not end the conversation civilly said "if you want evidence of god why don't I come down there and smack in your fat head!" - Ah, those loving christians!
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Adey ...if you believe Paul existed ...then you have to believe Jesus too existed.
Because Paul was one of the biggest persecuters of the New Christians. He had taken upon himself to get rid of Christianity. Later he becomes a beliver after he sees a vision, going blind, sight restored .....etc
Horus, Osiris story has very little resembelence to the Life of Jesus, his parables, his miracles, his disciples, crucification...etc. More over the Deciphiring of the Hieroglyps (Egyptian symbols) is very very loose. If written texts can be translated and the meaning changed you could paint a rainbow with Hieroglyps.
Dionysus is the god of Wine and maddness...how does that seem similar to the Life of Jesus?
Krishna was born in a prison, his parents being put there by King Kans so as they would have intercourse and have 8 children for the king to kill.....where is the comparison to the birth of Jesus?
Mithra the Zorastiran god too has hardly any semblence to the life of Jesus
Today a virgin can give birth (thanks to science) can you compare it to the life of Jesus?
hmmmm
It is true that the New Testamant is large made up of letters from Paul, but then again, you have to consider that Christians believe that Paul was following Jesus' message and shaping the "Christian" practices through Divine guidance
Based on whose authority? Where in the bible or any revelation is it said that paul was given authority by jesus or God to be a prophet or missionary of God? So if you make that authority without proof or revelation then by default one has made Pauls writing before jesus.
Saying Paul is more important than Jesus is like saying the so-called scholars in Islam are more important that our Prophet (saw).
The difference is that Paul incorporated his own creed and experiences as part of revelation. Whereas the scholars of Islam base their writings on the words of the Prophet SAW and the Quran. And within Islam scholars are allowed to be scrutinized based on these two foundations. However, pauls writing are revelations and are not based on Jesus's testimony but rather his own experiences and beliefs (including dreams) and therefore THE foundation within modern day christianity.
which makes pauls writings more important to modern christian belief than jesus's.
Pork, beef, pork & beef, venison, even veggie sausages.... but what sort of abomination is CHICKEN sausage!!!!?????!!!!
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
And also, in my country almost everybody has been eating pork for generations. We are neither more sick than other nations (we are more healthy, I'd say), nor fatter (slimmer we are!), we don't swap wives (ok, ok, not more than others).
I love pork and don't think chicken sausage is a sausage.
And there is nothing like a pork chop, potatoes and cabbage for sunday dinner!
Sylwia
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Charan, I'm with you on this one :)
Sylwia
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maybe I should rephrase that. Paul is more important to the development of early christianity and its subsequent forms (Not to christians) then jesus.
remember jesus wrote nothing and all the stories that Paul failed to mention were written70-100yrs after the supposed crucifixion of jesus.
I don't see how that is an insult to both religions? Only if one thinks that questioning doctrines in a reasonable manner can be regarded as insulting.
I do realise that if jesus did not exist it also calls into question the accuracy of Mohammads revelation. but that is my view and if someone wants to give evidence for a real person called jesus who lived at that time and did all the things that are written about in the New Testament (other than using that as a source, and the Qu,ran obviously can't count either) then lets have it.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Yes adey.. although I do believe jesus existed it is soley based on blind belief.
And in fact, the belief that Mohammad is a prophet of God is also based on the same premise. As well as all the Prophets before him.
We call it belief in the al-ghaib in the Quran or belief in the unseen.
The only difference is, as you said we have proof that mohammad did indeed exist.
And another difference is who was paul?
So your saying that because paul had a dream ... you can now eat whatever you would like to eat??
Lots of parrallels with Mohammed and Islam there.
Yep, the history of early christianity pretty much alludes to the fact that Paul is the most important figure in the religion NOT jesus. In fact we know Mohammed existed, the same cannot be said of jesus. Paul pretty much made the whole thing up, never refering to jesus as a living man at all: the only thing he wrote about him was the virgin birth, crucifixion and asscent into heaven - none of the rest that was aquired later. The parrallels with other 'hero' pagan gods is too numerous to mention - see Horus, Osiris, Dionysus, Mithras and Krishna: they are all the same story.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
I suppose then that it takes me back to one of my first posts on the website that mentioned the bible is full of dreams. All though I now realize how to reword that remark a bit better. Many modern christian ideals are consolidated by dreams.. mmmm.... perhaps thats not the right way either?
red pope
Acts 10:10
So your saying that because paul had a dream ... you can now eat whatever you would like to eat??
11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "
I don't understand how this says NOT to eat pork??? Doesn't it just say that its not "necessarily" what goes in your mouth.. that makes you a screwed up person.. but what comes out of your mouth. Therefore becareful of what is in our hearts.
And how does that make eating pork okay according the christianity. RAther it sounds like he is making a point that people could understand of the time. I.E. clarifying the false belief that eating something makes a person unclean!
And trying to get people to stop worrying about the little things when much more important sins need focusing on first. I.E. purifying our hearts!
17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "
And I think this last passage is excellent because it talks about the evil within a persons heart! And isn't part of being a good person obeying God and his commandments? Even if we have no reason (logically) to not eat pork other than obeying HIM! And, if we were grateful, wouldn't this be a small price to pay for everything he has given us? Especially when we look at the gift of guidance about purifying our hearts!
I agree pm in what you said earlier. In that if it was said in the Quran that pork is shameless or even a saheeh hadeeth then this statement would be normal and fine. Otherwise it is just rhetoric, opinion and false assumptions.
And far too often muslims tend to focus on less important issues than what we should focus on. And I think there is a reminder of this in the above biblical passages.
New Theory Wine, Women & Music = PORK
dweller....pops from the sky..lol Rains them back home....lol Especially if one is a bad singer, etc.
Reminds me of a story:
Long time ago a student once tries to enroll with a Sage to learn the Vedas.
The Sage tells him I will enroll you only if you can answer my question "What is the most unclean thing in the world?" I would base my opinion about you depending upon the answer for which you only have 24hrs.
The Student thinks upon a lot of dirty things but finally gives up. The sage says its "Human Excreta". That is the foulest thing on the Earth. And who is responsible for creating the most foulest thing - Man himself.
And where do THEY pop out from!
Unclean = Potential Disease causing.
So if one eats pork the Scriptures (all three) say you expose yourself to the diseases.
Today I would say eating Chicken/Eggs are Unclean (due to the avian flu) Yet people are eating it.
Also Unclean is having Intercourse with an HIV+ person.
I mean are the Scriptures so tough to decipher!?!
Well I was once told, third hand, that the reason its sale is banned here is because of the fear that scraps of wasted pork would decay and infect the water table and thus Muslims would be involuntarily imbibing swine meat.
I am not saying this is true, it's just something I heard.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
They don't wear Bikinies. They wear G Strings. Sexy Pigs :)
Pork is forbidden??????????
smoking pig trotters..... I have lived in Qatar for four years and never realised.....
WOW thanks for the breaking news
shameless? is that because their wear bikinis?
dirty? maybe they dont shower like other livestock
anyone want the contents of my freezer?
Let us talk about buying Pork, I don't want to eat it, I just want the right to buy it like UAE, Oman, and 90 % of the world.
I reckon that the local population is not strong enough in their beliefs to stay away from Pork, they have to be protected from themselves. When the Muslim religion starts to trust its believers to do the right thing, then it might become a religion to trust.
DH snores too but ilearn to live with it after all this time (20yrs)lol >is this wat you call love??roflol....hehhehhehehhhehe(me bad bad girl)
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
its soooo hard spicemom, every saturday have to see my hubby still snoring at 7am while i have to go to office. such a sad life... LOL
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
lol>mila the first i have heard of suicide syndrome.......hehehehheheheh
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
you are sooo lucky.. i hv to drag my fat ass today for work. every saturday i have suiside syndrome due to not wanting to go to work. hehehehe
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
If Mr.Paul up to it I come out tonight...
I am rested up....
:)
You can't teach experience...
I have my beacon yesterday Vegas, it was awesome asual.. hows ur weekend gone?
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
You can't teach experience...
I eat pork products since I was 8 years old until now no worms or health problem because of that. Thanks GOD.
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
you wrote, ""
6. Pig is the most shameless animal
the pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have not allowed with its mate."
Couldn't understand the underlined. Can u explain what u mean
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Pork Pork Pork Pork Pork Pork I love to eat Pork :)
Wow! Pork causes all those worms etc, I've eaten pork for 35 years and haven't aquired any of them yet!! As far as I'm aware!!
I got to sign off, my favorite program is on the air right know on the Travel channel, The thirsty Traveler exclusive UZO drinks. Umm just given my slf some great ideas about drinking distilled spirits. Later and be bless everyone.
Interesting enough the same debate has being established in many Christian forums. The conclusion in general it was not a Sin or forbidden to consume Pork and many other animals.I will explain Why? The old testament taught us rabbinical laws of food preparation and consumption, since the great majority of us are not Jews, but converted Gentiles, it does not apply to us those Jewish laws. Yet the preparation on cooking throughly your food is Biblical any health inspector or chef will agree with that one. In the New Testament Even Apostole Peter had a dream from God about food. Acts 10:10 But he became hungry and was desiring to eat; but while they were making preparations, he fell into a trance; and he saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground, and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the air. A voice came to him, "Get up, Peter, kill and eat!" But Peter said, "By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean." Again a voice came to him a second time, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy." This happened three times, and immediately the object was taken up into the sky. Do you understand the vision?God set the picnic table for everyone to eat. We christian have the choice to eat what we please as long is cook properly. Matthew 15 verses 1-16Clean and Unclean 1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2"Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!" 3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother'[a] and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[b] 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father[c]' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8" 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'[d]" 10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' " 12Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?" 13He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.[e] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit." 15Peter said, "Explain the parable to us." 16"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' " The New testament is very specific about this. Is not a sin to eat pork or any hoof animal. Is about every man and woman sins that degenerate their souls, is not what you eat.Yet you could follow diets for healthy eating, If you wish.
Turks will not eat pork.
Many however hunt and eat wild boar.
Alexa....lol. Trot(ter) along and behave
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many of you sit around and "chew the fat"?.
That originated when the rich could afford to eat bacon which also gave rise to the saying "bringing home the bacon".
ShaheenLets educate ourselves, when interpreting and using verses of the Holy Bible. Lets read carefully the following statement. By Richard BaconCopyright 1997 © First Presbyterian Church of Rowlett It is important when we examine any passage of Scripture that we place it in the proper historical and textual situation; that is, in its proper context. We need to understand what has gone before the passage, and also what follows. As the saying goes, "a text without a context is a pretext."
Have a serious look into your scriptures in which you all believe (if you believe!). No further explanation is required about PORK being forbidden. Its enough for me, as a muslim to have the comandment from the holy Quran. What science has discovered so far, and what is yet to be discovered is supporting the not so good characteristics of swine meat. All those who are happly eating away the forbidden are not practicing their faiths in totality. Peace be upon them as well. Hope they see the truth.
You guys also seem to bring rays of humour to an otherwise dreary thread. Thank you.
pork is forbiden in judaism, Christanity & isam. is it forbiden in any other religion too?
husbands, that is according to mate of mine who claimed he was married to a pig.
should i edit this again?
i am here reading the comments☻☺☻
as per bible pork is forbiden & shaheen belive me many christians do not eat pork.
if someone eats & enjoys & are healthy then its upto them. they are surely answerable to the lord
The juice of the cranberry has naturally occuring alcohol!!!!!
And stopping dipping your sausages in it!!!! You naughty girl!
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
I just ate some fresh barbecue Pork chops for Dinner today and I'm feeling quite Holy and content this evening... I'm sorry, If your religious dogmas are in contradiction to my believes..... In reality, I don't care about your opinion on Pork, Pigs and Hogs.
Alexa, the orginal post before editing had a whole paragraph on how eating pork would lead to wife swaping and a whole host of sins. It seems that Shaheen has since seen the error in his thought and quickly ediited it out. As a fellow consumer of pork we know this to be just another untruth...
he's flipped cos he has nowhere to go tonight!
Shaheen, I see you are editing your orginal post faster than people can respond, why are you ashamed of what you have wrote? I realise that the consumption of pork is forbidden by Islam, but writing the falsehoods you have should be even more forbidden...
Ergo- dogs are very loyal and faithful creatures by nature, maybe we should eat these instead? I believe it's where the Koreans get their wonderful personalities from.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
i have noticed point no 5 & 6 being done by pigs many many times , but not by any other animal.
I was raised on a hog producing farm and have ate pork all my life, never knew it was supposed to come with wife swapping too!!! Been happly married nearly 25 years and my wife has never heard of this either. What have we been missing?