Portuguese people influences
When i was talking with Merry can muslim, he asked about portuguese ethnicity, so i decided to post some info about us, hope it will help people to know, us, better :)
"Portugal's name derives from the Roman name Portus Cale. Cale was the name of an early settlement located at the mouth of the Douro River, which flows into the Atlantic Ocean in the north of what is now Portugal. Around 200 BC, the Romans took the Iberian Peninsula from the Carthaginians during the Second Punic War, and in the process conquered Cale and renamed it Portus Cale (Port of Cale). During the Middle Ages, the region around Portus Cale became known by the Suevi and Visigoths as Portucale. The name Portucale evolved into Portugale during the 7th and 8th centuries, and by the 9th century, that term was used extensively to refer to the region between the rivers Douro and Minho, the Minho flowing along what would become the northern border between Portugal and Spain. By the 11th and 12th century, Portugale was already referred to as Portugal
The etymology of the name Cale is mysterious, as is the identity of the town's founders. Some historians have argued that Greeks were the first to settle Cale and that the name derives from the Greek word kallis, 'beautiful', referring to the beauty of the Douro valley. Still others have claimed that Cale originated in the language of the Gallaeci people indigenous to the surrounding region (see below). Others argue that Cale[2] is a Celtic name like many others found is the region. The word cale or cala, would mean 'port', an 'inlet' or 'harbour,' and implied the existence of an older celtic harbour..[3] Others argue it is the stem of Gallaecia. Another theory claims it derives from Caladunum.[4] Hector Boece said Portugal derived from Porto Gatelli the name Gatelo gave to Braga when he settled there [5] while others say he gave that name to Oporto[6] In any case, the Portu part of the name Portucale became Porto, the modern name for the city located on the site of the ancient city of Cale at the mouth of the Douro River. And Port became the name in English of the wine from the Douro Valley region around Porto. The name Cale is today reflected in Gaia (Vila Nova de Gaia), a city on the left bank of the river."
Roman Lusitania and Gallaecia
Main articles: Lusitania, Gallaecia, and Hispania
Roman conquest of Hispania.
Roman conquest of Hispania.
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Roman conquest of Hispania
Second Punic War - First Celtiberian War – Lusitanian War - Numantine War – Sertorian War – Cantabrian Wars
The first Roman invasion of the Iberian Peninsula occurred in 219 BC. Within 200 years, almost the entire peninsula had been annexed to the Roman Empire. The Carthaginians, Rome's adversary in the Punic Wars, were expelled from their coastal colonies.
The Roman conquest of what is now part of modern day Portugal took several decades: it started from the south, where the Romans found friendly natives, the Conii. It suffered a severe setback in 194 BC, when a rebellion began in the north. The Lusitanians and other native tribes, under the leadership of Viriathus, wrested control of all of Portugal. Rome sent numerous legions and its best generals to Lusitania to quell the rebellion, but to no avail — the Lusitanians gained more and more territory. The Roman leaders decided to change their strategy. They bribed Viriathus's ambassador to kill his own leader. Viriathus was assassinated, and the resistance was soon over.
Rome installed a colonial regime. During this period, Lusitania grew in prosperity and many of modern day Portugal's cities and towns were founded. In 27 BC, Lusitania gained the status of Roman province. Later, a northern province of Lusitania was formed, known as Gallaecia, with capital in Bracara (today's Braga).
[edit] Germanic kingdoms
Main articles: Visigoths and Suevi
Germanic kingdoms in Iberia, 560.
Germanic kingdoms in Iberia, 560.
In the early 5th century, Germanic tribes, not all of them truly barbarian, invaded the peninsula, namely the Suevi, the Vandals (Silingi and Hasdingi) and their allies, the Sarmatian Alans. Only the kingdom of the Suevi (Quadi and Marcomanni) endured after the arrival of another wave of Germanic invaders, the Visigoths, who conquered all of the Iberian Peninsula and expelled or partially integrated the Vandals and the Alans. The Visigoths eventually conquered the Suevi kingdom and its capital city Bracara in 584–585.
The Germanic tribe of the Buri also accompanied the Suevi in their invasion of the Iberian Peninsula and colonization of Gallaecia (modern northern Portugal and Galicia). The Buri settled in the region between the rivers Cávado and Homem, in the area known as thereafter as Terras de Boiro or Terras de Bouro (Lands of the Buri).[7]
Other minor influences from this period include some 5th century vestigies of Alan settlement, which were found in Alenquer, Coimbra and even Lisbon.[8]
[edit] Moorish rule and the Reconquista
Islamic expansion, 622-750.
Islamic expansion, 622-750.
In 711, the Islamic Moors (mainly Berber with some Arab) from North Africa invaded the Iberian Peninsula, destroying the Visigothic Kingdom. Many of the ousted Gothic nobles took refuge in the unconquered north Asturian highlands. From there they aimed to reconquer their lands from the Moors: this war of reconquest is known in Portuguese as the Reconquista.
In 868, Count Vímara Peres reconquered and governed the region between the Minho and Douro rivers. The county was then known as Portucale (i.e., Portugal).
While it had its origins as a dependency of the Kingdom of León, Portugal occasionally gained de facto independence during weak Leonese reigns.
Portugal gained its first de jure independence (as the Kingdom of Galicia and Portugal) in 1065 under the rule of Garcia II. Because of feudal power struggles, Portuguese and Galician nobles rebelled. In 1072, the country rejoined León and Castile under Garcia II's brother Alphonso VI of Castile.
[edit] Affirmation of Portugal
Main article: History of Portugal (1112-1279)
The Reconquista, 790-1300.
The Reconquista, 790-1300.
In 1095, Portugal separated almost completely from the Kingdom of Galicia. Its territories consisting largely of mountain, moorland and forest were bounded on the north by the Minho, on the south by the Mondego.
At the end of the 11th century, the Burgundian knight Henry became count of Portugal and defended his independence, merging the County of Portucale and the County of Coimbra. Henry declared independence for Portugal while a civil war raged between León and Castile.
Henry died without achieving his aims. His son, Afonso Henriques, took control of the country. The city of Braga, the unofficial Catholic centre of the Iberian Peninsula, faced new competition from other regions. The lords of the cities of Coimbra and Porto (then Portucale) with the Braga's clergy demanded the independence of the renewed county.
Portugal traces its national origin to 24 June 1128 with the Battle of São Mamede. Afonso proclaimed himself first Prince of Portugal and in 1139 the first King of Portugal. By 1143, with the assistance of a representative of the Holy See at the conference of Zamora, Portugal was formally recognized as independent, with the prince recognized as Dux Portucalensis. In 1179, Afonso I was declared, by the Pope, as king. After the Battle of São Mamede, the first capital of Portugal was Guimarães from which the first king ruled. Later, when Portugal was already officially independent, he ruled from Coimbra.
Main article: The Consolidation of the Monarchy in Portugal
From 1249 to 1250, the Algarve, the southernmost region, was finally re-conquered by Portugal from the Moors. In 1255, the capital shifted to Lisbon.
Portugal's land-based boundaries have been notably stable in history. The border with Spain has remained almost unchanged since the 13th century. The Treaty of Windsor (1386) created an alliance between Portugal and England that remains in effect to this day. Since early times, fishing and overseas commerce have been the main economic activities. Henry the Navigator's interest in exploration together with some technological developments in navigation made Portugal's expansion possible and led to great advances in geographic, mathematical, scientific knowledge and technology, more specifically naval technology."
Hero: lol :D
I love meeting new cultures and new people, it fascinates me :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Unless I need it for a quiz tomorrow.
I only got history of the world in general, not every and each country. My brain cannot succumb it. LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Heero: i use it for posting in forums, most of the times texts are too long to be writting them by hand, it's easyer to copy/paste :)
On another of my cultural posts i wrote about a city that belonged to the Portuguese in Morocco.
You enjoyed reading Portuguese history?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
...after reading your ideas on why you usually post wiki facts about Portugal...
...but I find it better reading facts in book format rather than in a computer data.
I had an Encarta installed in my computer but I can't find a brain gain whenever I read it or even wiki.
That said, what I remember in the books about Spain and Portugal is that the origin of Moors and Islam came from these countries in the Byzantine Empire. Now the Columbus/Magellan competition story is in another event of time.
This is just my statement, ok? Each his own.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Gypsy/QT: I started this post with a cultural matter, then you can both see how things started, if people aren't interested on a matter why posting? At least, that's how i do.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ
عانيتُ
:-)
Thought that a long time ago actually.
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don't ya think? :S
You should come here again, Portugal and spain have big arabic influence on both cultures.
The Post Office released some stamps showing Monuments with arabic style.
In Evora, south of Portugal we have a roman temple dedicated to the roman goddess, Diane.
If you visit the South you'll find buildings pretty similar to moroquian ones.
In the north we have an holly city called Fatima (Fatimah) that's a sanctuary for muslins and christians.
It is said that the town got it's name as a tribute to Mohamed's daughter, Fatimah.
Christians say that the Virgin Mary made an appearance and spoke with 3 bothers/sisters and gave them 3 secrets.
This happened in the start of last century, since than, Popes often go there. The last sister that had the 3 secrets died a very few years ago, a litle earlier that the pope John Paul II.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Abu: Nice to know it, hope you have enjoyed your visit, did you went to see any of those buildings that have Arabic influence here?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
lol, not being in Qatar means i'm not good enough to post and leurn about Qatar?
I'm making this post because happy can muslim made me some questions about my etny, so i decided to use wikipedia to show him more about Portuguese people origins. :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Salax:. And.. neither of them is in Qatar nor plans to come near Qatar. So, as to why he's posting in QL? I am just as confused.
But whatever man
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Gypsy:. Ohh.. oops lol. So, I'm the one not following his threads. Not that it bothers me. ;)
Thanks for correcting that though!
RP... ahh. So, I left you baffled hey?? 7 1/2 boyfriends. In time I'll be 8-7 with Labda! Get ready for that!
LOL
How's work?? On a Friday??
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LOL. Nice to see you again last night Red Pope. :)
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No Janeyjaney, he's Portegeuse Christian and she's Morroccan Muslim.
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Janeyjaney
No problems, stay cool.
My anti-hangover formula works nicely.
I still can figure out your 71/2, specially your 1/2. That definitely had me thinking and laughing.
Gypsy, My Canadian Bacon
Could I bother you in picking thoroughly, every blond hair of your head for one hour. LOL
I hear St. Patrick was an Englishman!"
Salax.. his gf is Morrocan. They're both Muslim.. if you have been following his posts..
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yes, how interesting.....
Janey: No prob, always happy in sharing my knowledge, that's how we all leurn, sharing each others knowledge.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Thanks guys, sorry if the text is too long but i think people can read it slowlly, always good to meet new cultures.
By posting this, i'm showing that we, portuguese, have been dealing with all races and beliefs since the begining, so we do know the meaning of tolerence :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
RP.. after a hectic night, forgive us for not being able to have the patience to read history. :(
My apologies.
It was nice talking to you last night!
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As i previouslly stated we have the influence of several cultures, i'm gonna try to post a map that i found on Wikipedia too.
I decided to add the link here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Portugal_Imp%C3%A9rio_total.png
It shows a map and how we expanded all over the world, we were the only colonial country that would get together with any natives we would meet, even today, brazilian say, for fun, that the mixture of races between us and them, gave them the sexiest girls alive :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Can't be bothered right now to read all that. But post whatever you'd like Plato.
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I actually find this forum very interesting and educational.
I don't understand, why some folks, will not take the time in reading some of this historical information about Portugal and Spain. Instead, they just drift in their own mockery.
Anyhow, My favorite part is La Reconquista....
Well done Platao
I hear St. Patrick was an Englishman!"
Decline of the Empire
After the 16th century, Portugal gradually saw its wealth decreasing. Even if Portugal was officially an autonomous state, the country was under the rule of the Spanish monarchy from 1580 to 1640, and Portuguese colonies were attacked by Spain's opponents, especially the Dutch and English who aspired to dominate both the Atlantic slave trade and the spice trade with the Far East. For a short time the Dutch even managed to dominate Portugal's possessions in Brazil but this was reversed, beginning with a major Spanish-Portuguese military operation in 1625.
At home, life was calm and serene with the first two Spanish kings; they maintained Portugal's status, gave excellent positions to Portuguese nobles in the Spanish courts, and Portugal maintained an independent law, currency and government. It was even proposed to move the Spanish capital to Lisbon. Later, Philip IV tried to make Portugal a Spanish province, and Portuguese nobles lost power. Because of this, as well as the general strain on the finances of the Spanish throne as a result of the Thirty Years War, on December 1, 1640, the Duke of Braganza, one of the great native noblemen and a descendant of King Manuel I, was proclaimed king as John IV, and a war of independence against Spain was launched. Ceuta governors did not accept the new king; they maintained their allegiance to Spain. Although Portugal had substantially attained its independence in 1640, the Spanish continued to try to reassert their control for the next twenty-eight years, only accepting Portuguese independence in 1668.
In the 17th century the Portuguese emigrated in large numbers to Brazil. By 1709, John V prohibited emigration, since Portugal had lost a sizable fraction of its population. Brazil was elevated to a vice-kingdom.
All these texts were obtained at www.wikipedia.com
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Period of discoveries and Empire
Main article: Portugal in the period of discoveries
An anachronous map of the Portuguese Empire (1415-1999). Red - actual possessions; Pink - explorations, areas of influence and trade and claims of sovereignty; Blue - main sea explorations, routes and areas of influence. The disputed discovery of Australia is not shown.
An anachronous map of the Portuguese Empire (1415-1999). Red - actual possessions; Pink - explorations, areas of influence and trade and claims of sovereignty; Blue - main sea explorations, routes and areas of influence. The disputed discovery of Australia is not shown.
During the 15th and 16th centuries, Portugal was a major European power, ranking with England, France and Spain in terms of economic, political, and cultural influence. Though not predominant in European affairs, Portugal did have an extensive colonial trading empire throughout the world backed by a powerful thalassocracy.
July 25, 1415 marked the beginning of the Portuguese Empire, when the Portuguese Armada departed to the rich trade Islamic centre of Ceuta in North Africa with King John I and his sons Prince Duarte (future king), Prince Pedro, Prince Henry the Navigator and Prince Afonso, and legendary Portuguese hero Nuno Álvares Pereira. On August 21, the city was conquered by Portugal, and the long-lived Portuguese Empire was founded. Further steps were taken that expanded the Empire even more.
In 1418 two of the captains of Prince Henry the Navigator, João Gonçalves Zarco and Tristão Vaz Teixeira, were driven by a storm to an island which they called Porto Santo ("Holy Port") in gratitude for their rescue from the shipwreck. In 1419, João Gonçalves Zarco disembarked on Madeira Island. Between 1427 and 1431, most of the Azorean islands were discovered.
In 1434, Gil Eanes turned the Cape Bojador, south of Morocco. The trip marked the beginning of the Portuguese exploration of Africa. Before the turn, very little information was known in Europe about what lay around the cape. At the end of the 13th century and the beginning of the 14th, those who tried to venture there became lost, which gave birth to legends of sea monsters. Some setbacks occurred: in 1436 the Canaries were recognized as Castilian by the Pope; earlier they were recognized as Portuguese. Also, in 1438 in a military expedition to Tangier, the Portuguese were defeated.
Bartolomeu Dias turning the Tormentas Cape, renamed Cabo da Boa Esperança (Cape of Good Hope), representing Portugal's hope of becoming a powerful and rich empire by reaching India.
Bartolomeu Dias turning the Tormentas Cape, renamed Cabo da Boa Esperança (Cape of Good Hope), representing Portugal's hope of becoming a powerful and rich empire by reaching India.
However, the Portuguese did not give up their exploratory efforts. In 1448, on a small island known as Arguim off the coast of Mauritania, an important castle was built, working as a feitoria (a trading post) for commerce with inland Africa, some years before the first African gold was brought to Portugal, circumventing the Arab caravans that crossed the Sahara. Some time later, the caravels explored the Gulf of Guinea which lead to the discovery of several uninhabited islands: Cape Verde, Fernão Poo, São Tomé, Príncipe and Annobón. Finally, in 1471, the Portuguese captured Tangier, after years of attempts. Eleven years later, the fortress of São Jorge da Mina in the Gulf was built. In 1483, Diogo Cão reached the Congo River.
In 1484, Portugal officially rejected Christopher Columbus's idea of reaching India from the west, because it was seen as unreasonable. Some historians have claimed that the Portuguese had already performed fairly accurate calculations concerning the size of the world and therefore knew that sailing west to reach the Indies would require a far longer journey than navigating to the east. However, this continues to be debated. Thus began a long-lasting dispute which eventually resulted in the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas with Spain in 1494. The treaty divided the (largely undiscovered) world equally between the Spanish and the Portuguese, along a north-south meridian line 370 leagues (1770 km/1100 miles) west of the Cape Verde islands, with all lands to the east belonging to Portugal and all lands to the west to Spain.
Map of Brazil issued by the Portuguese explorers in 1519.
Map of Brazil issued by the Portuguese explorers in 1519.
A remarkable achievement was the turning of the Cape of Good Hope by Bartolomeu Dias in 1487; the richness of India was now accessible, hence the name of the cape. In 1489, the King of Bemobi gave his realms to the Portuguese king and became Christian. Between 1491 and 1494, Pêro de Barcelos and João Fernandes Lavrador explored North America. At the same time, Pêro da Covilhã reached Ethiopia by land. Vasco da Gama sailed for India, and arrived at Calicut on May 20, 1498, returning in glory to Portugal the next year. The Monastery of Jerónimos was built, dedicated to the discovery of the route to India. In 1500, Pedro Álvares Cabral sighted the Brazilian coast; ten years later, Afonso de Albuquerque conquered Goa, in India.
With this, the Portuguese became the first civilization to fully start the process we know today as globalization.
João da Nova discovered Ascension in 1501 and Saint Helena in 1502; Tristão da Cunha was the first to sight the archipelago still known by his name 1506. In East Africa, small Islamic states along the coast of Mozambique, Kilwa, Brava and Mombasa were destroyed or became subjects or allies of Portugal.
The arrival of the Portuguese in Japan, the first Europeans who managed to reach it, initiating the Nanban ("southern barbarian") period of active commercial and cultural exchange between Japan and the West.
The arrival of the Portuguese in Japan, the first Europeans who managed to reach it, initiating the Nanban ("southern barbarian") period of active commercial and cultural exchange between Japan and the West.
The two million Portuguese people ruled a vast empire with many millions of inhabitants in the Americas, Africa, the Middle East and Asia. From 1514, the Portuguese had reached China and Japan. In the Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea, one of Cabral's ships discovered Madagascar (1501), which was partly explored by Tristão da Cunha (1507); Mauritius was discovered in 1507, Socotra occupied in 1506, and in the same year Lourenço de Almeida visited Ceylon.
In the Red Sea, Massawa was the most northerly point frequented by the Portuguese until 1541, when a fleet under Estevão da Gama penetrated as far as Suez. Hormuz, in the Persian Gulf, was seized by Afonso de Albuquerque in 1515, who also entered into diplomatic relations with Persia. In 1521, a force under Antonio Correia conquered Bahrain ushering in a period of almost eighty years of Portuguese rule of the Gulf archipelago[9] (for further information see Bahrain as a Portuguese dominion).
On the Asiatic mainland the first trading-stations were established by Pedro Álvares Cabral at Cochin and Calicut (1501); more important, however, were the conquest of Goa (1510) and Malacca (1511) by Afonso de Albuquerque, and the acquisition of Diu (1535) by Martim Afonso de Sousa. East of Malacca, Albuquerque sent Duarte Fernandes as envoy to Siam (now Thailand) in 1511, and dispatched to the Moluccas two expeditions (1512, 1514), which founded the Portuguese dominion in the Malay Archipelago. Fernão Pires de Andrade visited Canton in 1517 and opened up trade with China, where in 1557 the Portuguese were permitted to occupy Macau. Japan, accidentally reached by three Portuguese traders in 1542, soon attracted large numbers of merchants and missionaries. In 1522, one of the ships in the expedition that Ferdinand Magellan organized in the Spanish service completed the first voyage around the world.
By the end of the 15th century, Portugal expelled some local Jews, along with those refugees that came from Castile and Aragon after 1492. In addition, many Jews were forcibly converted to Catholicism and remained as Conversos. Many Jews remained secretly Jewish, in danger of persecution by the Portuguese Inquisition. In 1506, 3000 "New Christians" were massacred in Lisbon.[10] Many of the merchant Jews who fled reached such prominence in commerce that for centuries a "Portuguese" abroad was presumed a Jew of Portuguese descent.[citation needed]
In 1578, a very young king Sebastian died in battle without an heir (the body was not found), leading to a dynastic crisis. The late king's elderly grand-uncle, Cardinal Henry, became king, but died two years later. Portugal was worried about the maintenance of its independence and sought help to find a new king. Philip II of Spain was on his mother's side the grandson of King Manuel I, and on that basis claimed the Portuguese throne. He was opposed by António, Prior of Crato, the illegitimate son of one of the younger sons of Manuel I. As a result, following Henry's death Spain invaded Portugal and the Spanish king became Philip I of Portugal in 1580; the Spanish and Portuguese Empires came under a single rule. This did not, however, end resistance to Spanish rule. The Prior of Crato held out in the Azores until 1583, and continued to actively seek to recover the throne until his death in 1595. Impostors claimed to be King Sebastian in 1584, 1585, 1595 and 1598. "Sebastianism", the myth that the young king will return to Portugal on a foggy day, has prevailed until modern times.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Please do continue doing it, every reply i receive, will show that i'm superior to you and all your friends together, i feal happy to have so much attention.
You guys are giving me a lot of attention, for someone you hate, so, thanks again, i wont do the same to any of your friends posts because i'm too superior to be worried with what worms do :)
Now, back to Portuguese History on next post box.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
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You really do get our logic wrong after all...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Well, feal free to control my posts, it's something that i don't really care, mind telling me your contribution for this post? As far as i see, Abu, hasn't said anything constructive, or am i repeating myself again?
Uau, u need friends to face me, how brave, let me see if i can get our 16 million citizans to join forum, than, you can have all your qatari friends here too, :D
Maybe than we can all have an online party.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Abu is very famous, i even knows how many family members he have :)
What have you done to QL, Abu??? LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Oh wow Abu, I'm impressed that u could actually get through reading it without falling asleep! That's an accomplishment.
I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield
Where's AbuAmerican?
*yawn*
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BRIT: You are forgetting Figo and Cristiano Ronaldo
Cornelian: lol, forgot that's already a weekend there ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
lol corne
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Hmmm just one question, do u REALLY expect people to read that long long thread on a friday morning ? Brain cells aren't supposed to work weekends! (especially after night outs :P)
I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield
SO the Orange got its name from Portucalis!
I know that Eusabio came from Portugal, and ofcourse Vasco da Gama - who can be blamed for going off to India.
Just wanna add that source was wikipedia
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ