Alabama shootings
Saw on opening page of my web browser, did a search, not posted as yet. checked date - AP news 11 March 09 unless misinformed. Mods, pls delete if nec or move as you think fit. I couldn't find an appropriate forum so dumped it in "religion" through not really applicable.
Anyway, my comment on this article - quite shocking. Motive unclear for now but looks like he couldn't handle the pressures - most probably the financial crisis - and decided that life was not worth living and he just went beserk and wiped out his family and anyone who happened to be in his path on his way to wiping himself out from the face of the earth.
This is the difference between a person who is not God centred but self centred. If people have faith only in themselves and their own abilities, they shall fail at some point in time and have nothing to fall back on. For many of us, we fall back on God and have a somewhat fatalistic approach to life - fate is in God's hands. Yes, we do strive to protect ourselves as we have been given a brain, but if we've done all we can, then it's up to the Almighty.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_re_us/south_alabama_shootings
"SAMSON, Ala. – A gunman killed at least nine people on a terrifying rampage across two Alabama counties Tuesday, burning down his mother's home, killing members of his own family on their porch and shooting apparent strangers as he drove by, authorities said. He then fatally shot himself.
Police were investigating shootings in at least four different locations in three neighboring communities, all of which were believed to be the work of a single gunman named Michael McLendon. Investigators declined to comment on a motive for the shootings, in which at least four other people were injured, including a child.
The afternoon of bloodshed began when McLendon burned down the house in Kinston where he lived with his mother, Lisa McLendon, according to Coffee County Coroner Robert Preachers. Officials located Lisa McLendon's body inside the house, but they had not been able to get inside the still-burning house to determine a cause of death or whether she was a 10th victim of her son's killing spree.
He then headed about 12 miles southeast to Samson, in Geneva County, where he shot and killed five people — four adults and a child — at a home. He killed one person each in two other homes.
The identities of all the victims were unknown, but Preachers said they included other members of the shooter's family.
"He started in his mother's house," Preachers said. "Then he went to Samson and he killed his granny and granddaddy and aunt and uncle. He cleaned his family out."
"We don't know what triggered it," Preachers added.
McLendon also shot at a state trooper's car, striking the vehicle seven times and wounding the trooper with broken glass.
He then killed someone at a Samson supply store, and another person at a service station.
Samson contractor Greg McCullough said he was pumping gas at the station when McLendon opened fire, killing a woman coming out of the service station and wounding McCullough in the shoulder and arm with bullet fragments that struck his truck and the pump.
"I first thought it was somebody playing," he said. He said the gunman roared into the parking lot and slammed on his brakes. Then he saw the rifle.
He said the gunman fired and the rifle appeared to jam, then he "went back to firing." Then he drove off.
McCullough, a father of two, said he tried to help the woman who was shot and yelled for someone to call an ambulance.
"I'm just in awe that something like this could take place. That someone could do such a thing. It's just shocking," McCullough told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
Police pursued McLendon to Reliable Metal Products just north of Geneva, about a dozen miles southeast of Samson, where he fired an estimated 30 rounds from a semiautomatic weapon, the Alabama safety department said. One of the bullets hit Geneva Police Chief Frankie Lindsey, who was saved by his bullet proof vest.
McLendon then went inside the plant and shot himself, according to the safety department's statement.
Reliable Metal Products makes grills and vents for heating and AC systems, mainly for hotels. A person who answered the phone at the plant said no one could talk about the shooting.
State Rep. Warren Beck, a Republican whose district includes Geneva, said the gunman had worked at Reliable Metal.
"My secretary heard gunfire everywhere," he said. "This is one of the most tragic events ever in Geneva County."
State Sen. Harri Anne Smith, R-Slocomb, said some of those killed in Samson were sitting outside.
"He was just driving down the street shooting at people sitting on their porches," she said. "A family was just sitting on the porch and they were shot."
Smith and Beck were at the Statehouse when state troopers came to get them and took them to Geneva County. Smith said the governor's office is sending resources and state troopers are setting up a command post.
A white single-story house where the five people were killed in Samson was cordoned off by police.
Police had hung white sheets to the entranceway to shield the scene where authorities said a black hearse that pulled away late Tuesday was transporting victims' bodies.
Samson Mayor Clay King said he knew the gunman.
"What I'm focusing on is people here in the town, making sure they feel comfortable," said King, who added the town opened a crisis center at the First Baptist Church with counselors available.
King said he's the "most shocked person in the world" about the shooting.
"I've lived here 44 years and never, never dreamed of this happening," he said.
John Rainey, an administrator at Wiregrass Medical Center, in Geneva, said a child was brought in with injuries then flown to another hospital. The staff had geared up to try to help other survivors, but their hopes were dashed when reports of the deaths came in.
"We set up for the worst there for a couple of hours and unfortunately we were getting the same bad reports as everyone else — most people were untreatable," said Rainey "It's something you'd expect in Atlanta or your bigger cities but in a little town it puts a lot of people in stress. Our nursing staff broke down in tears hearing what was going on and realizing they weren't going to be able to help them."
The towns of Geneva and Samson are near the Florida border in southeast Alabama. Geneva's population is about 4,400 and Samson, 2,000.
In the center of Samson, authorities in sheriff's cars and trucks with blue lights flashing blocked off part of East Main Street, where some of the shooting occurred.
At the hardware store, yellow tape was strung across the front of the store where at least five bullet holes punctured the glass windows to the store, with its wheelbarrows and Adirondack lawn chairs on display. An orange-and-black sign to the store reading "Closed" lay on the ground outside the store atop the glass shards.
David Bradley, 51, the owner of the hardware store, said he was inside behind the counter when the shooter opened fire outside his store. At the time, there were five customers inside, plus Bradley's 27-year-old son, Justin.
"No one was injured inside the store," David Bradley said, adding he didn't even get a glimpse at the suspect. "It happened so quick."
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Associated Press Writers Garry Mitchell in Mobile, Bob Johnson in Montgomery and Anna Varela in Atlanta contributed to this report.
EM: Got exhausted as in had enuf of the whole thing.
I know its not a great script, but Would say its as plausible as the 'no-religion' scenario :)
He may be is under presure or mintaly ill or may be any thing else ...like he's girl kissed him good bye or or or
But Thx God A Million Times That He Is Not An Arab Or Muslim....Oh Shit If He was .....He Wud Have Been Then A Dirty Littel Terrorist...!!!!
I repeat - Mods, pls delete if nec or move as you think fit. I couldn't find an appropriate forum so dumped it in "religion" through not really applicable."
- Which part of "not really applicable to religion" did some of you people not understand? Agree with Gypsy. Religion not mentioned. Just a side comment.
Winn said "Also arent we assuming too much when we say that he killed himself at his workspot coz of frustration at work? I mean, to me, it seems that he lost his head, picked up his gun, started going to all the places he used to go and started shooting and by the time he reached his workplace he must have been exhausted and put a bullet in his head."
- Got exhausted and put a bullet to his head, huh?
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
No Winn, the base argument is Catholics vs. Protestants. The IRA is a Catholic organization that is trying to get the Protestants (British) out of Ireland and make it a Catholic state.
This is what happens when people listen to Marilyn Manson. I blame him.
Gypsy: I think it was 3. 2 soldiers and a cop. But for them its more of separate 'state' than religion (or religious factions rather), right?
won't be repeated was not granted! It had happened before (in schools, in supermarkets, etc) and it will continue to happen again!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I second Gypsy and Tallg. What does religion have to do with it? I do think these kinds of events will happen more and more as the economy gets worse (all over the world). I am afraid many people are getting guns because they want to "protect" themselves, but it will only cause more violence.
Good point Winn. Sadly also on the front page of today's paper there's been a second shooting in Northern Ireland by the IRA. Four(or 3?) people dead in the last week. There's what belief in God will get you.
For most of us living in this material world, Capitalism is the new religion. It is all well and fine, when we have job, got a house, have a few holidays etc..
Soon as the hardship hit for some it is very hard to handle and they cannot see that maybe life is not so hunky dory as it was before and decide to end it rather than face the hardship and adjusting ones lifestyle to it..
Sad this could happen to anyone, one just has to understand that this is not a perfect world and we have to be prepared for hardship also..
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EM: Gypsy beat me to it, I guess. I was about to say the same thing.
Also arent we assuming too much when we say that he killed himself at his workspot coz of frustration at work? I mean, to me, it seems that he lost his head, picked up his gun, started going to all the places he used to go and started shooting and by the time he reached his workplace he must have been exhausted and put a bullet in his head.
Also, I would say more killings and unrest occurs all over the world coz of "Your God v/s My God" than people who dont believe in god.
Belief/faith doesnt pre-empt schizophrenia or other disorders. nor does it cure.
But I digress, the point here is, it is indeed a shocking incident, lets jus hop that these things dont repeat.
What has this got to do with God? There's no mention of it in the article, and as Gypsy said he could have been a religious guy.
The issue is that if you let people have guns then people are going to get shot. It's not rocket science.
Sorry EM but I don't see any mention of his religious beliefs in this article. For all you know he was a good chruch going, bible thumping Cristian and he believes God ordered him to do this, to save his loved ones and others from the coming hardships.
"State Rep. Warren Beck, a Republican whose district includes Geneva, said the gunman had worked at Reliable Metal."
- One more thing to mention - this guy shot himself at his workplace - clearly telling the world (by the attention he created with his violence) that he's against his employer and those he perceives to be unfairly well treated while he was not.
Many people even in Qatar, have these feelings of anger, frustration and resentment at things they perceive as unfair to them in their narrow views. You cannot talk any sense to them because they will not be able to see reason. So please be more alert about your surroundings, even in Qatar.
Someone tried to run me off the road Monday evening because he was angry. Just angry because I was driving a nicer car than his van. It's either the lorrym van or bus drivers get so agitated as to why a non-Qatari woman should be luckier than them. And I think they also perceive Asian women as maids and how did one get to drive on these roads with us??? He took the opportunity to bully someone he thought was weaker than him and could not fight back. This is one of many incidents that I don't have time to mention and don't bother to keep in my heart. I pray for protection daily and carry on with life.
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
and it keeps happening. Nothing personal, but "only" in America? For sure somebody will react! As I said, nothing personal!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Well said.. It seems all too easy nowadays to blame others for our own failings / problems and exact revenge on them..
He is dead and we probably may never know the real reason for this atrocity.