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really ironic.....talking about $$$$$$ and all ...i am one of those "KABAYANs" and sad to say i dont have those $$$$$$$$ you've got and I for one is still expriencing and still very much stressed out coz im running out of time looking for a decent place to live (take note full 1 month of searching)... for a room... with QR.2,000 only...nothing....all i saw are partitioned room with nothing at all... YOU ARE INDEED A VERY LUCKY LADY MIZ BEELA with all the money you've got, you can even rent a beautiful villa... WELCOME TO DOHA QATAR....

Beela - have you found a place yet?

Gulf times does come in English and Thursdays is especially good for ads for apartments etc.

We just went through the same hassle as you.

You said Ezdan sucks - you'll find that on most compounds and suites someone on Qatar living will say it sucks. Ezdan is very reasonably priced, has good facilities and you'll meet lots of people - it might be worth a look?

We didn't move in there, because it was not right for us. There's tons of other apartments in West Bay (if that is where you want to be). I seen a whole bunch in the past few weeks. Drop me a line if you'd like my opinion on some of those.

I can't read Arabic, but thanks! Unless there is a button that says "English" and I could click on that?

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the best way to call some contacts who have ads on www.ewaseet.com

or u can put an ad in Gulftimes newspsper,they will call u

Just a word of caution, be careful here. Woman who are on their own are targets and very vulnerable to attack from men, Arab and otherwise. DO NOT GO by yourself to view apartments. I would strongly recommend using a reputable agent through Homes to Rent or Apollo or someone. I don't mean to scare you, but never forget that you are in an Arab country, that women on their own who fall into a bad situation are considered to have brought it on themselves. We have no embassy here yet. Please be very careful. Never go in an elevator alone with a male. Never meet with men under any pretense by yourself or otherwise leave yourself open to attack.

I have worked in Arab countries for a long time now and have personally had a couple of close calls. Protect yourself by not putting yourself in vulnerable situations.

Just friendly words of advise.

acbizgirl,

i do not know actually the answer for your question, i was in qatar for just one month.

anyway, i appreciate the discussion with you mam, whatever your openion , i must respect it in all cases. u r most welcome, wish you all the best wherever you are.

Beela,

sorry again for that small interruption ;) .

Cheers //

My friend looking for roomsharing or room mate she was live in Al Muiather if you are interesting here is mobile no.6489417. I hope she can help you!!!!!

Oh snap!

So this whole time I could have been looking for a 1 bedroom with a HALL??? Man alive!

Thanks for the info about the Canadian Ball...sounds fancy!

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If ur budget is more then 5000 QR then u must get good locality, but if it is less then that then it may quit difficult but not impossible.. depends on luck.

Try and Try untill u succeed. All The Best

Whenever I find the key to success, someone changes the lock.

BHK stands for Bed Room + Hall + kitchen

Whenever I find the key to success, someone changes the lock.

I have read your response and couldn't agree more with most on the points you made. Its is a matter of education and yes I have dealt with and deal with many proffessional men on a daily basis. I am myself a proffessional in the Energy business. All the men whom i work with are respectful, kind, considerate and dignified and they are of all nationalities including Qatar.

I feel bad that my comments were taken so badly when my only intention was to enlighten Beela to the social do and don'ts here to make sure that she didn't put herself in any questionable situations.

Yes, the west has some lessons that it could take from the middle east. The society in the America's and Europe have become demoralized and socially corrupt. I cant argue with that. But to say there is no crime or homosexuality here is not quite true, in fact I suspect homosexuality is as prevalent here because of the restrictions on male female interaction. Its only hidden because its illegal.

As for crime I do have one questions for you. I have noticed as have many others that there is very little crime reported in the Gulf Times or the Pennisula, but I hear, and correct me if I am wrong, that in the Arabic version of same its all there. Is this true? Why the black out in English paper then if so. We all know that Qatar is not crime free, not society is without it.

I have enjoyed your responses to my questions and I truly appreciate your insight into Arab culture. I hope to learn more about it as time passes for me here in the Gulf.

Best Regards

Halls in this country are living rooms, not hallways as we would think of them lol. I can imagine your frustration as we all go through it here when we first arrive. Call "Homes to Rent" or Al Asmak or Appollo, tell them what you want and see if they have anything. If they do an agent will come round and take you to view. I don't know what your budget. You mentioned that your working Abu Hamour which I think is in the industrial area? Do you have a car yet?

Keep in touch. PS. There is a Canadian Ball on May 29th this year I think at the Ramada. Tickets are supposed to go on sale at Villagio at Virgin book store this weekend.

did you try searching in Villagio area, it is nice area and you might find what you are looking for there. give it a look.

Regards //

Beela,

it depends on the Luck adhering you, also depends on life style you want and money you have.

i know people who live in shared accomodation which is only big room with one bath and one kitchen ( if there is a kitchen ). i do not want to discourage you but mam, do not worry , you will find what you are looking for but please keep trying it will take just some time.

with my best wishes.

Regards //

Halls? That to me is so strange to see a hall being a huge deal. Do most places not come with halls or what?

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BHK = Bath + Hall + Kitchen

i`m a new comer to doha. what BHK stand for?

sorry beela, i know it is your topic , but it was mandatory to reply and clarify things.

Anyway, i think it better to give a try for suggestion of checking supermarkets where there are some good classifieds there.

My advise , do not take classifieds on Qatar-Living as reliable one, i did try it before when i was in Qatar but it did not work for me at all. it is my own experience with QL calssifieds so it is up to you, :)

wish you all the luck and best

Regards //

>Can your sister marry who she wants, is she allowed to move freely in society without covering and escort.

>If the answers are yes then I have the most respect for you.

THE ANSWER is simply "YES". this a truth and without going in personal details , it is my sisters' free will to do whatever they want under the frame of religion.- also without going in debates of some religions postulates coz these differ from one to other according in what he/she believe beside this is out of discussion scope- , the matter of religion-related issues should not be discussed here . but i can proudly say YES of course my sisters can do by their free will and all of them without exception were married to men they loved. and keep in mind that NOW and Tomorrow are always another moments. so present is different from the past.

Other than warning beela based on personal perception or previous bad experience happened to you under un-normal conditions , you can give the words based on some more professional ways as to divide people based on their educational backgrounds. YES I merely believe that Educational background make difference when dealing with people regardless of their nationality.

Without offending any person , Let me ask you, did you face an educated man in Arab world with that attitude you are mentioning, ? most of stories you are mentioning are related to drivers, and publics and in Arab world you must know that these jobs usually occupied by less-educated people. I know this -sometimes- is not a healthy cultural environment but anyway this some kind of truth I must admit.

Moreover , if you want to go in surfing the internet and find some statistics for how the violence against woman is, I believe that western has the highest ratio regardless of what laws you are mentioning. Also let’s agree that Western is more open in woman-related cultures than Arab world which yields a lot of bad effects , for example in Belgium you can see a semi-naked (unless we say totally naked) woman standing in lingerie shop frontage for live show, which is decreasing the value of woman to get her as model without soul or body-respect, which you cannot find it in Arab world.

Another story , issues like gays and lesbians is not much and hidden in Arab world , not like USA. Accidents like pregnancy without marriage in secondary schools are not here in Arab world, in UK this issue is a headache. Additionally you will not find an establishment for porno movies productions in gulf .

When talking about moral and ethical related issues, I think Qatar would win. But when you are talking about the work & Professionality cultural difference. We can find a lot of debates.

FYI, I was working in UK, France, USA and some of African countries for long period of time but for me I would prefer so much to stay and live in gulf.

Regards //

Can we talk about me now?

I'm so discombobulated!!! I'm hearing conflicting things about where to live, where to not live, who to deal with and now I'm tired!

I need some ice cream and a shopping mall, STAT.

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I would suggest you call Homes to Rent!

Hope she is just at work today. She didnt email or post last night either. Although probably nothing to worry about. I am sure the poor girl is just exhausted with all the newness of the place and her job. Hope she comes back on soon also. PS Babnya, hope you find the new key soon....

Moral of the story is Beela is missing now... Hope she is safe and got a good house to stay without cockroach.

Whenever I find the key to success, someone changes the lock.

You obviously didnt read my posts fully, and if you had you wouldn't be so defensive. I apologize if I have offended your sensibilities.

My last post was simply made in reponse to a direct questions that I was asked by another QL member.

What is your problem? I am not attacking anyone, or generalizing, unfortunately you have obviously taken offense. you took my post out of context. Do you have a problem with me cautioning women against letcherous men? If it was an white cab driver who tried to grope me I would have said dirty honky, but it wasn't and in that particular instance it was an Arab.

If you read my post further you would have also seen that I acknowledge that there are lots of great men out there who are; polite, respectful and dignified.

watch your mouth.!you r keep attacting to the ppl you don not know.i was not saying that you have to tolarate and stay without reaction in this stuation.sure was a bad experience.but nevertheless you can not generalize the people.here many arabs and many other nations.you cant get anything by being aggresive.pls show your nails to the person who hurts you but do not scrach others.

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Attitudes are more important than facts...

Oh and by the way, YES, YES and YES, I have. I have been groped by dirty Arab cab drivers in Azerbaijan, Suni (spelling) arabs and felt up in elevator and on the bus by complete strangers (men). Arab men think they are supreme, and objectify women, they do not see women as human beings or their equals which we are and more.

Can your sister marry who she wants, is she allowed to move freely in society without covering and escort. If the answers are yes then I have the most respect for you. If the answer is no get out of the dark ages, women make up 51% of the population are productive and can make huge contributions to society beyond the house, bedroom and kitchen.

Giving words of Caution is to empower women to protect themselves, not to insult men as there are lots of good men out there, respectful, kind and dignified..

Allah will punish those who disrespect women, you bet your cowgirl boots on that.

I don't know if you are a women or a man, by your handle, but will pray that you don't ever find yourself in a situation where someone makes unsoliciated sexual advances. Or maybe you like that, I for one, DONT!

Oh and by the way your response makes no sense, we are all separate but diverge what is that giberish. I didnt see any articulate response to any of the comments I made, and thats because there all true.

not defensing anyone or any nationality but as someone said “In the end we are all separate: our stories, no matter how similar, come to a fork and diverge. We are drawn to each other because of our similarities, but it is our differences we must learn to respect.”leave someone's sisters and their choices a side since not our businnes.and how you dare to call DIRTY ARAB cab?my god thats your dirty mouth nothing else.(sorry )

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Attitudes are more important than facts...

My intent was not to offend anyone but to offer Beela some wise words of caution. Your right caution should be exersiced in all countries. But there are laws to protect women and prosecute men for sexual assault in western countries. Those laws don't exist here or if they do the man's word will always be take over a womans just because the society is framed that way.

Your right bad things can happen to anyone anywhere. However, its a known fact that some religious zelots teach that women have no soul and that they are there to temp men, which is a load of bs and amounts to a cop out for men not having to be responsible for thier own actions and behaviours.

So I say western women must protect themselves here in Arabia, never trusting men that they don't know and never putting themselves in situations that are questionable even with men they do know.

If something were to happen the fact is it would be considered the woman's fault, regardless of what happened, because the consensus would be the woman shouldn't have put herself in such a situation in the first place. Lets look at the 75 year old women who was just jailed in Saudi for taking bread from her nephew and a stranger. Lets look at the young woman who was violently raped last year and then she and her lawyer were both jailed for wasting the courts time. Yes these occurances were in Saudi, but lets face it Saudi is just across the border and while things have progessed here, they haven't progressed that much and I for one wouldn't want to have to test it.

All I am saying is that Beela is new and may not be aware of the social do's and don't and I wanted to make sure that she thinks twice and doesn't put herself in any potentially harmful situations.

there is a new site oppening soon:

www.qatar4rent.com

now u can use the # on thier website.

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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

acbizgirl ...

which arab countires did u visit to say that bad words of cautions :( , i am not offending anyone, but what u are talking about, is not common here except from expats themselves ( not arab ). did u face any problem like that with Arab man b4 to say that.?

moreover, caution must be considered everywhere in the world even western ... or western does not have men and women there ;).?

please, choose ur words before throwing them away like this.

Kind Regards //

=)

I'm not looking to share, and my intent was not to make this into a race issue. Had I known, I wouldn't have posted those comments, but I was unfamiliar with those terms.

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Teepatter, I said don't people WANT my money...

And how is leaving a message giving anyone a "Western attitude"?

Please help me to decipher the meaning behind your words.

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Try hangin' around with Pinoys or Kabayans (same thing to me) and for sure you'll learn a lot about housing, sharing and rents and what have you... Pinoys are experts when it comes to this. Have you seen a 5 by 6 meter room packed with 8 to 10 persons like sardines? With only carton boxes and old luggages serving as room dividers? Check it out...

Hi Beela. I went through your feature...are you still looking for a place? I am like you, looking for a girl to share my accomodation. Okay, here's how the accomodation goes. And I have no issues with nationalities etc. As long as the giril Ill rent it to is well-mannered, and yes likes to shop! :) dont we all girls? Anyways please check out the information as below:

It is an Excellent Fully Furnished Bedroom with attached Bathroom available to rent for minimum few months to - 1 year, in a beautiful Apartment in the upscale location of West-Bay. It includes, a large Swimming Pool, excellent Gym facilities, Restaurants and Shopping market, Security, Covered Parking, Free Internet, Free Water and Electricity and Free Local Phone Bills.

The current occupant is a working professional woman in an esteemed organization. The request is for sharing with female 'only'. The offer is very good, hence interested ladies please kindly reply to [email protected] at the earliest.

Regards.

$$$$$ HUH? NOT ALL PEOPLE CRAVE FOR YOUR $$$$!! AND NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE USED TO WESTERN ATTITUDE...

Talk to yo soon, got to get some work done hehe!

Wow. I guess I'll set up a few appointments and take someone with me.

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Go Flames Go!

Hi...you're the third person from Calgary I've come across!

Thank you for the advice about looking at the fine print. I'll send you an email after I come back from the mall. Took the day off and am going to shop!

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Hi,

I am also from Calgary, and came here 16 months ago on my own. Your right, take things one day at a time and try not to get stressed. I personally rented through homes to rent, and have been pleased living in Al Dafna in a one bedroom FF flat with all utilites inlcuded and a pool for 9000.

My only advise would be to make sure that anything that you want them to do in the apartment have them do it and check that its done before you sign. there is no after sales service with homes to rent.

Be careful if you go through the paper, lots of scams and scam artists out there. Send me an email anytime if there is anything that I can do to help you settle in.

Welcome to Doha.

Calgary Girls United!! :-)

Ezdan sucks.

Or so that is what I've read. Not a positive review...search it out on here.

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R u ok with sharing accommodation or specifically looking for independent accommodation.

Give me your contact no and i will forward it to freinds who could help you.

If you don't mind living in a large building (like you would in most major cities) you might want to try EZDAN towers (they look like square arches). I know they have availability (from 7k - 18k /mo) I don't know what your budget is, but they have a decent set-up there with a big pool, gym, restaurants and a little market. *shrug* I think cleaning services are included..not sure how normal that is.

I found a great place working with Phillip (is info was posted above). There were no fees and he showed me 3 or 4 places until I found one I like. I would recommend him to anyone looking for a place in Doha.

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Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

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it will be helpfull to you!!!

Beela, I've been here same time as you and it's a **&* nightmare trying to find somewhere decent to stay. Like you I've phoned several agents regarding specific properties they are advertising and they didn't even call me back. If you want to use an agent I was recommended this guy - Ibrahima Traore of India & Gulf Trading and found him very good indeed, very pleasant and helpful and seems to know the market. His tel is 6936374.

Good luck.

Beela...you sound completely clueless :)) As a shopoholic i think you should live as close to the malls as possible, Villagio etc. That way you can manifest your relationship with your Visa card .

Ex abundancia cordis, os loquitor ....... from the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks

the villa's in Abu Hammour

I'm working in the Abu Hamour (sp?) area. I don't mind driving. In Calgary I used to drive 75km roundtrip each day, and it was almost always in rush hour traffic.

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hey ,,

h r u .. yesterday i rent a new villa in a very nice place .. if you are searching for a villa this complex is very beautiful and the price also.. if ur intrested reply me to send u the name of the person .

to live depends heavily on where you are going to work. and... consider also parking of your car coz this is the now growing problem here in Doha

"Masunod nawa ang iyong kalooban!" 

they r reconstructing the road and stuff in bin omran so depeend which part of bin u r talkin abt.....try to look for a place in al saad, al nasr, hilal, matar, muntazah and mansoura areas if u r looking fora place in doha

Well I had to go thru a similar time Beela when I came here a few weeks ago. I had moved from Washington DC to Dubai and in two months had to move to Doha. I could not find a half decent place until I found a decent one close to Ramada Junction. Depending on your budget you can find some really decent deals these days. However, stay away from certain areas. You can email me on [email protected] and I can give you a briefing, if you need. I work as a Project manager in a international company and even with a very decent compensation package this place is making me think, if I made the right decision.

I'm trying to think happy thoughts and not be stressed, because stress isn't good and won't get me anywhere.

I did see a place the other day that is brand spanking new, has 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, tiny kitchen, living room, unfurnished, with a cockroach. I've never seen a cockroach before...it was dead.

The guy didn't speak English and I didn't speak his native language, but I know that utilities are included, and I *think* wireless internet.

It was in the Bin Omran (???) area and the driver said down that road over there was the Corniche. Seemed pretty close to things.

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forget Homes to Rent

Wall around is also a very bad idea.

I already try both and not happy with the result.

News paper is the best way

There is a Flat near lulu, without furniture, for 6500 month.

Is quite small, and with strange forms, but for a single is not so bad

Check mate.....

My contact is Youssuf 6582587 tell him Sharif reccomended you. No agency fees also :) Shk Jassim has half of doha ..........

finding somewhere to live can be stressful....

a lot of people rent apartments that look like garden sheds...

word of mouth... ask ask ask

and of course QL

depends on your budget and if you are willing to share.

if you're here to work, why not let your company do the these things for you, rather than thinking and getting frustrated about it. by the way your $$$ may not be enough, maybe you'll need $,$$$... hehehe.. kabayan, it means a person who came from the same place where you came from.. pinoy/pinay, colloctial or slang terms used to describe people from the Philippines islands, masculine and feminine respectively..

LIFE'S A JOURNEY NOT A DESTINATION......

steven tyler... aerosmith

Novita 77 referred to you Maria, Try to know more about her so you will not be clueless on what is a kabayan or Pinoy( i think she is) look like. lolz!

"Masunod nawa ang iyong kalooban!" 

Hi Beela,

U have got the shelter at last?

If not, see my classified posted today, 13 Mar, for a room in old airport,even for very short term.

No commission involved!

Regards

What are the fees associated with using these services?

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4134839 .. Landline they are closed tomorrow might as well call as what Novita77 posted " Maria " she is a friend of mine also or call this 5296608 "Philip" also a friend

not sure but it may be helpful. try going on places where ppl stick classifieds. lulu, al meera ofcourse QL, dasman a lot of ppl stick their advertisements there.

this may help...otherwise not a problem, ull see a new mall atleast and u can put ur requirement there also :)

cheers and all the best Beela

Thanks guys!!

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Beela, call a girl friend of mine who works for Homes To Rent. Her name is Maria and her number is 582 3364

I have been here just 2 weeks, managed to find a place through Apollo 4689522, English agents and very helpful

good luck

Dan