Lady of the Rosary

I get your point, but I beg to differ, The UK is a free,democratic society (Trinity act) with 3% of population are Muslims,i.e "citizens".

But I would honestly say that at times I wish people applied the same standard everywhere. If that means closing immigration (which in its present form I think is slowly eroding any semblance of the country I was born in). At least that way we, as you put it, would have no obligation to diversify and accommodate any non-British cultural customs, like the Arabian Gulf countries. Fair is fair and most people I know would be very happy with the end of the Arab and muslim double standard.

Don't you wish sometimes if the UK has followed the same policy as GCC,in order "not to contaminate" ? bear in mind,we aren't citizens of this country,we are guests with "renewable" RP,so the state has no obligations towards guests.

Maybe all this has to do with numbers? There are very few Qataris compared to the amount of foreigners in general and non muslim in this country. So the fear of losing one's culture may be very real for some people.

How do they think we feel in our countries when Arabs and Muslims "culturally invade" (for want of a better word)? We deal with it and are expected to come to terms with change. Why don't Gulf Arabs feel the same standard should be applied to them? This is what I mean by double standard. On the one hand, it is fine to spread Islam and Arab culture in the West and many will even fight for their rights to wear nikab. But those same people just want us to come here, visit, do our work (if we are employed) and not contaminate (again for want of a better word) their culture.

Am I the only one who finds this hypocritical? Or maybe I am just the only one who will speak about it publicly and need a good lashing. ;)

I appreciate your comments. :)

it's all part of the so called preserving the national identity. Many Qataris are overprotective due to the fear of losing our culture. Unlike other Arab countries , over hundred of years there were hardly any Christians in the whole Arab peninsula.

I am fine dear, thanks, hope you are doinf well

its just silly to fee or show fear of building any church any where , its nice to see pple rferring to God and worshop him, I felt sorry when I read that churches are not visited much in some cities in UK and being convrted into another porpuse rather than parying place!!!,true beleivers know how to love each other.

How they finance this church? anyone knows?

when a christian , or a jew or a muslim converts to another religion , most propabley he will practice the new religion, other wise why he convrted from the begining, jews were practicing their Judazim during his life , its a taboo in islam to harm any timple or church any where, there was no christianity in the area, and jews left for reasons documented in history, all mousques in the world are open to visitors from non-muslims , with few conditions, only the two mousques in madina and mecca ar not open for nonmulims, you can watch how crouded they are along the year, as they are not historical or tourism attraction,many historical mousques in the old islamic coutries are open for visitors, I took many non-mulim freinds there myself,one hint here, there is no christians or jews living in the two cities, they are oriented around the religious vistors only,

plz dont husitate to ask any thing else,

kind regards

and have been in all those places you mentioned but Iraq. That is why I do not understand the position of those who are so fearful or angry about a church in Qatar.

Christianity has a special place in Islam, as many verses and chapters were dedicated solely to virgin Mary and Jesus (pbuh) , if you get a chance to travel to Iraq,Syria, Lebanon,Libya,Moroco or Egypt, you will notice the existence of some of the worlds' oldest churches, some churches have been converted to Mosques in some areas (including London) , because they weren't used any more.

If there is a mosque in the near vicinity then yes Muslim should got there. This is true in most Muslim countries. But if there is no mosque close to home then Muslims can pray at their home.

and was told that was what the hadeeth refers to. I am curious though. Did your Prophet bar people from practicing Judaism or Christianity in those cities when they had become "muslim"?

religion so adamantly in other countries and prosecute the spread of other religions in your own. Sorry, but there's no 2 ways about it: DOUBLE STANDARD.

That said, I respect the people in Qatar who have allowed a church here and I hope they far outnumber that straggly bearded chap engaged in muslim recruitment.

I was at a party, and this woman was hitting on me, and she was hitting on me with the most boring questions. One of them was, 'If you could go anywhere in the world, where would you go?' And I was like, 'Anywhere?' She was like, 'Anywhere.' I was like, 'Uh -- to the other side of the room. Now, please, get out of the way of a man and his dream.'

our own rules, if you had paid attention there is one saying (hadith)of Prophet sallahualaihiwassalam discussed in this video which I was not aware.

I really want to find out more about it in details. If this hadith didnt exist then Qataris are so generous they would in fact build not one but many churches.

May be sis Fatimah can discuss that hadith in detail.

Interesting :)

gladly visit a mosque in my country, and contribute financially to them are so rude and self-centered to speak against the ONE church constructed for Christians here. There is just a double standard that many Arabs and Muslims seem to operate on that I find irritating. And thank God/Allah/Whatever you call him for those Qataris who do speak up for what is fair and just (like the woman in the car who refers to wanting for your brother what you want for yourself).

Drmana the religion here is too compelling.

Eco, thanks. I really didn't know that.

Eco you interfere in other people's life too much

its important for muslim men to go Mosque, they cannot pray at home, even blind men must go to Mosque

since they are going to church.

It seems their Sermons are similar like ours on Friday

dont do this, Dont do that.

Yes, everyone should be given the right to built place of their worship but creating a fuss about not having one for any religion is nonsense I would say . When one wants to pray, the place doesn't matter...whether it is our own room or any temple, church or mosque.

I agree with you on that aspect. However, as I noticed in Saudi (where they prayed in makeshift churches), it is mostly people from developing countries who go to church..

Perhaps, it is the same here...

everyone should be given the right to built place of their worship.

As you've seen in the documentary, there is misconception among conservatives that the church has missionary purpose here.I think many locals must see this documentary to understand how's the church important to the christian expatriates residing in Qatar. That's why i thought that they should have interviewed various members from the community to show diversity of christian faith believers in Qatar.

i thought they will have a white priest ;O)

btw i'm not agree with Lafanga, because back in my home i've encountered many times these christians missionaries who don't care for any sort of action, untill they really face it. So in my view just saying they are following Qatari rule for being a muslim country, is not making any sense.

That is a different case, since he was practcing illegally, without ministry approval..

I agree with Xena, i know one guy who was doing healing work in Qatar & he silently got deported for doing so. Pretty unfair in my opinion

to get involved in documentary. I dont think he was scared, he doesnt seem attention seeker either.

the last time Christians were vocal in Qatar... a bunch of them got deported....

Priest is scared that he could face some sort of action for promoting Christianity in a Muslim country for talking about it. That is my best guess.

What's wrong with QL lately

Nothing intrigues you guys about the documentary?

Why is the priest refusing to allow them film?

Why are the interviews with Christians were limited to an Indian driver, Ethiopian maid & two Coptic teens ?

Great to hear the differing viewpoints.. I believe Qatar is moving in the right direction...

As for your comments, perhaps, like many of us, you are looking for conspiracies, where there may not be any :O)

This is Awesome, very well done. I watched from 0:21 to 0:23 atleast seven to ten times already.

Oh and honest to God, i know the guy at 4:07 (i wont mention his name) he is into guys...seriously

Ignore MODE: ON

Eco this is a public forum! Your underhand techniques won't work. Come out in the open and say whatever you have to. I don't talk in private messages unless it's a close friend.

Kudos to the girls for venturing to take up this topic.

Hopefully the more people are willing to discuss controversial topics with an open mind, the more they will understand each other.

interesting...

Whatever that quote means doesn't apply in this instance!

It's not a yes/no situation. It's about true/false. And I said true as per my knowledge. Let her prove it false if she can.

"No coercion in the matter of faith" at 03:44...that's so right. Believe in one supreme power "The God". Lets not fight giving him different names. Every religion is as good as other. Live and let live.

"A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction

is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please,

or worse, to avoid trouble."

That's what I am doing. I said it already. And I will say it again that I am not lying. As far as I know punishment for abandoning religion is death...in Islam.

I may not be 100% honest, but I try not to lie, when the lie doesn't benifit me or anyone else.

And lying for such trifle discussions!.....No way!

I might be wrong....but these are the impressions I got from reading news nowdays!

shame on you... WILTING... and that too to a lady who is fasting... please stand up and fight like a man... accept the challenge or forever keep your silence

Thank you - they were really interesting :)

allow me to hijack this highly valuable thread

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1258938?page=1#comment-1564111

wait I am searching for the link

But apostates are killed in some countries!

we drive even to Industrial Area for Prayers. And Just this morning one of my friend came to Hilal from Fariq al Omran

I believe there is no point in forcing muslims to stay faithful to Islam, if they find solace in Christianity or any other religion better allow them.

the more practising Christians the better