Qatar troops officially in Bahrain

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I am certainly not against democracy..does that answer your query?

Yes many expats in Baharain are facing great hardship and danger due to the protests. Are you really unaware of this?

As for your statement "Man -you are one twisted nasty person" If that's how you debate/discuss issues, ie with disrespect, abusive language,and personal attacks then please cease addressing me hereafter as this is certainly not my playground!You don't know me and hence cannot judge my very character due to my position on one matter. A very good evening to you and goodbye!

tell me more ELAPH

rizzo , my friend i hope you can read arabic and if do please google al safaweya til then please do not post anything regarding this subject,just an advise.

Thank you,habibthy..Glad you got my point. Everything indeed is not always black or white, and we are not all knowing of all situations to judge those who disagree with our view.

The reason for there to be the so called discrimination is everything. Does it occur to you that their are some who if given the opportunity may not just bite the hand that feeds them but may cause such mayhem and destruction to the lives of many as historically proven?And have you actually seen first hand the discrimination of these people? Were they really unprivileged and oppressed as compared to the people of Egypt and Libya are? Cos friends of mine from back there who are sadly now facing much hardship due to the protests and who may know some of these protesters personally do not agree. Neither do many people who have been there. The point is not everything is as its made out to be.And we all have our reasons to support whichever side in such situations.

Rizzo, you seem to be on somewhat of a rampage...I'm hoping a bit of sense thrown in will make you maybe think twice.

Rizzo, what you accuse Fathimah of is insulting and completely wrong. Although I do not always agree with her, in this case I do.

I also would like to mention that she is one of the most honest and straight forward posters on QL.

What you may have to learn is that things are not always black and white.

I understand class structures and the social tension contained within.

In principle do you support these demands - yes or no??

not interested

"Non of the above"

My suggestion was simply cos I realize you have no idea to what extent the sectarian problems are in countries like Baharain that makes the GCC leaders support the government and not the shia majority protesters. Its not always about "freedom" "discrimination" etc. Its far more deeper. I can assure you that I'm always against oppression..real oppression ie!

Guess Rizzo here doesn't realize that maybe some subjects are too controversial and personal, to be discussed on a public forum..Its not about being ashamed,cos I certainly am not ashamed of my postures in any situations, but more like this not been the appropriate place to give my reasons.Specially not in the main forum. Likewise she may also not realize than not everything is as cut and dry as it may appear. I suggest Rizzo you do more research on the topic of the so called sectarian discrimination in Baharain and how and why it came to being. And try to talk to some people,outside of a public forum, as to why they are not for the protesters.

sorry to interrupt. but fatimah is one of the senior QLER and one of the respected qler. all are comments are very experienced and appropriate.

you have a wrong judgement for fatimah.

I think by the quality of your response, you cannot provide a moral justification for your position and as such -are ashamed.

Do you support an end to sectarian discrimination, as well as democratic elections and equitable distribution of the country’s oil wealth??????

Yes or no???

I'm afraid this, ya'ni QL, is not the place for me to go into detail as to why I don't support the protesters of Baharain unlike the other countries you mentioned. So you can assume as you wish. I can only say that I,and many others who don't support the Baharain uprising both from within the GCC and around the world, know this for sure the protesters are not only "demanding an end to sectarian discrimination, as well as democratic elections and equitable distribution of the country’s oil wealth". and that's why giving into them may very well prove disastrous!

What else would it be than sheer hypocrisy. Do you support Quadafi in his fight against the resistance? Did you support Mubarak against his people. How about Ben Ali?

The anti-government demonstrations are demanding an end to sectarian discrimination, as well as democratic elections and equitable distribution of the country’s oil wealth.

What do you against this????

I have my reasons to believe I'm right in supporting the troops and you obviously believe you are right in supporting the protesters. I don't believe the protesters are right in the actual cause they are fighting for,the complete details which you may or may not be aware of,hence I don't see their "sacrificing their lives" one to be heiled..period! Mind you this is only my posture as far as the uprising in Baharain goes which I know, and God knows best, is for far more than "oppression".But if you see that as "hypocrisy" then that's your opinion.

Depends on a lot of unknown factors, but from the response of these reactionary forces one thing that is clear to everyone is - the enemy of the State is it's people

Rizzo overseeing the fact that this is the case or any another reason apart the reasons that i mentioned above isn't in our interests.But what's important is the fact that where will these developments lead to.

to support the survival of a feudal monarchy

There is a mutual agreement between the GGC states to support each other on various issues,whether financially,economically and also in this case,during times of crises as well.

you're insulting the very people that have risen up and sacrificed their very lives in the quest for a fairer and more equitable society for themselves, families and future citizens after decades of oppression from a feudal monarchy.

The argument against Iran is a red herring. Iran has not invaded and occupied any other country over the last 250+ years unlike your Israeli, US, UK and S. Arabian mates. Rather the principal concern in Riyadh and the other sheikdoms of the GCC is that the mass uprising in Bahrain be put down in order to prevent the spread of anti-government demonstrations across the region.

While cynically calling for air strikes against the Gaddafi regime in Libya because of its attacks on anti-government forces, the monarchies of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf simultaneously act to maintain the rule of their fellow despots in Bahrain. The gangsters know how to stick together to save their own skin.

To the outside world it appears like all these uprisings are for the same cause..likewise we see media portrays it to be very similar if not alike. However the leaders of the Arab nations,in particular the oil/resources rich GCC would be more aware of the intention and consequences of such protests.Hence they give their support accordingly. And yes Iran is a threat.. maybe far bigger than what many would imagine.

"No surprises there. Not all protests should be blindly supported"

Let me see. One is for social justice and the other is for.................social justice. WTF!!!!

"Qatar officially announces its troops are in Bahrain to support the embattled government at about the same time it announces its support for the rebels in Libya."

No surprises there. Not all protests should be blindly supported. What's important is accurate, up-to-date info to support or manage relevant conflicting priorities.

i forgot to put the wink sign in the last. so i put it now ;-)

'is it the same fate for the sunna in iran?

One Shot: same as arabs in Israel??

:D ;) you think so?

the old western game of divide and rule FILESONIC ??

iam talking about bahrain. no protest in iran right.

"Well yes...but I don't think the escalation is due to that"

No Nomerci - Exile is right. Its got everything to do with it

you are talking about Iran?

keep 2 rulers. one for the sunni and the other for the shias. give them equally separate state to rule.

i can't imagine if Shia ruled bahrin what could happen to sunna there.

is it the same fate for the sunna in iran?

the other side shia in saudi arabi where living without any bothering.

Is this really any different from the various small countries "made to participate" in the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan. ?

in arab regimes the heart rules over the minds..

Well yes...but I don't think the escalation is due to that.

Exiled, they know why they are doing this. And I understand it very well. It's all about Iran. IMHO