Elaph...but Qatar doesnt do that.Instead they collect their passport at d point of entry into Qatar after representing d nation in international.Am I right????
I saw Sebastien Soria in Carrefour the other day, he's pretty tall, and good looking. ;)
Fabio Ceser I see him everyday going to the training, by the pool, BBQuing. He has three very cute little kids. And his son plays football, he practices with him sometimes. He's the future daddy. :)
sorry about they rejected you . Im not good at football but im good at Rugby at New Zealand . Im trying find Rugby club in Doha . I been in Qatar in 3 months so far .
I like football, so there is 99 percent chance it might work, if I start playing football. :P
But I doubt it big time, I was playing handball and a lady from the national team of handball (Qatar) saw me playing against other schools and she wanted to take me, but they refused. They weren't considering my skills and talents, it was all depending on my nationality. They thought I am french because I was in the french school and I don't look Arab. But when they realized I am Egyptian they rejected.
The fact that I lived my whole life here wasn't enough.
England recently won the Ashes against Australia with 4 South Africans, Andrew Strauss,Matt Prior, Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietersen, One Irish guy, Eoin Morgan in the team and nobody raised an eyebrow.
True. But they are not looking at it from this prospective. I don't really know what roams in their mind now. But seems like they just want to increase the number of Qataris, but Qataris with same roots. Aren't you seeing how they are hiring Qataris in a mad way in every sector in the country. And how education now is one of the most important source in the country, when earlier it wasn't even recognized. They think they will reach a point where they the population will be 70 percent Qataris and the rest from other nations. But unfortunetly their sharp brains won't let it reach this point. Because honestly without all kind of nationalities in this country, Qatar wouldn't have accomplished anything by 2010, not even 2022.
I totally agree with your point. People who reside in Qatar for a certain period of time and have a useful skill set should be given the opportunity for citizenship. Not only is it the just thing to do, such an policy would enable the national population to sustain itself, grow and remain relevant.
Well there is another point too, we are speaking about footballers that spends few years in the team and then afterwards leave Doha and return to their country. What about those who served this countries their whole life? My grandfather served this country for 20 years and he made a differenc in Qatar's education back then when people hardly knew anything about education. I mustn't lie they offered him the passport but instead take the Egyptian passport. My grandfather refused because he couldn't simply give away where he actually comes from. Then my dad followed him and lived here from primary until high school. He then got back to Egypt, finished his University studies and came back to Qatar, he didn't even get a job and got paid. He volunteered as a Doctor (because that's what he does) at Hamad Hospital; back then it was the best hospital in Doha (soon it won't be). Then they decided to finally give him a job at HMC and get paid. He then used to travel fro time to time to Egypt. He met mum, got married and got her to Doha. He gave birth to my brother, my sister and I. My brother is 23, my sister is 22 and I am 21. So imagine how many years my dad spent in this country. I spent my whole life, my sister and brother same thing. My mum spent over 20 years. After all they have to bother themselves and offer us the passport, not us going and asking for it. I am saying out of appreciation they were suppose to do so. The reason why I want to get the passport is that I can't imagine myself living anywhere else but in Doha at the moment. It's like home, Egypt isn't forgotten or anything. But I lived in Qatar and it happened that I did. Now this is something more concerning than football players getting the passport and keeping it. And I am sure that there are lots of people that served this country for over 20 years and they still aren't appreciated for that. Gesture of appreciation, there are many.
Anyone representing a country, should be allowed to reside in that country even after he/ she quits playing the sport.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I have heard, in Qatar, players are given passports only to represent the country for the duration they play the sport and are only allowed to use the passport for travel related to a sporting event while representing the country.
If traveling on vacation, they have to use their own passport. The passports were taken back after the sporting event.
What I can't believe is the fact that football players get paid very well (big time) when all they do is kick a ball. And on the other hand a hard working man or woman that makes a huge difference in the countries success or in any companies success get paid less than a football player (pretty biiiig time).
I wish I was a talented footballer, I would have made lots of money out of kicking balls. ;) Hmmmm...interesting.
when you say they were nationalized, do you mean given a Qatari passport only for the games purpose? Or will they be allowed to stay in Qatar even if a year down the line, they don't represent the country?
Maybe the problem is that Qatar is not importing the right players . . . The new impetus of 2022 should give good cause, and ready cash, to entice quality players. It worked in the US until domestic interest grew enough produce some quality homegrown players.
Besides, I suspect many expats whose own country is not represented in the tournament will turnout to support the Qatar team, so attendance at the matches should be good regardless.
Many Qataris think that is this due to the Football association strategy of nationalizing players
I think many have already witnessed how Qatari spectator deserted the Qatar Vs. Uzbekistan before it ends. I also think that not many will turn out for the upcoming matches. Most wants the team to be an all Qatari team, Which i don't think is the reason why the Qatari Team ranking is decreasing.
How much do you think this will change by 2012? I suspect the number of natural-born Qataris is headed for a steep decline, especially if recent performance is a factor . . .
out of the 23 players only Mohammed Kasola, Fábio César Montezine and Sebastián Soria were nationalized.
Both Hussein Yasser & Wesam Rizik are of Egyptian & Palestinian roots , but their families were granted the Qatari nationality some time back. The rest of the team are Qataris.
To be fair, plenty on the US team are recent 'immigrants'--although less now than ten years ago. At least these guys are getting citizenship for their efforts . . .
There is Fabio Cesar, he's our neighbor, he lives in the second villa right next to us.
And there is also Suri or Sebastian I think. I think Suri is his second name, his frist name might be Cristiano. I am not sure but he's a good football player.
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Curious.....You've almost tell us all about your family
Curious...sorry about that.Im also a footballer frm Nigeria.Ive showcase my talent in some clubs nw.But they wont appreciate it.....
Elaph...but Qatar doesnt do that.Instead they collect their passport at d point of entry into Qatar after representing d nation in international.Am I right????
If you ain't concerned, then I am. :)
yes, we do it here, we give passports to players to represent us,so what? even Germany and Italy now have blacks playing for them !
I like Sebastien soria & Fabio ceser :) Khalfan Ibrahim as well,
I saw Sebastien Soria in Carrefour the other day, he's pretty tall, and good looking. ;)
Fabio Ceser I see him everyday going to the training, by the pool, BBQuing. He has three very cute little kids. And his son plays football, he practices with him sometimes. He's the future daddy. :)
M.E.
sorry about they rejected you . Im not good at football but im good at Rugby at New Zealand . Im trying find Rugby club in Doha . I been in Qatar in 3 months so far .
I like football, so there is 99 percent chance it might work, if I start playing football. :P
But I doubt it big time, I was playing handball and a lady from the national team of handball (Qatar) saw me playing against other schools and she wanted to take me, but they refused. They weren't considering my skills and talents, it was all depending on my nationality. They thought I am french because I was in the french school and I don't look Arab. But when they realized I am Egyptian they rejected.
The fact that I lived my whole life here wasn't enough.
Quit studying and start playing football, who knows, by 2022 you may make the national team :-P
England recently won the Ashes against Australia with 4 South Africans, Andrew Strauss,Matt Prior, Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietersen, One Irish guy, Eoin Morgan in the team and nobody raised an eyebrow.
Yep, that's right. ;P
True. But they are not looking at it from this prospective. I don't really know what roams in their mind now. But seems like they just want to increase the number of Qataris, but Qataris with same roots. Aren't you seeing how they are hiring Qataris in a mad way in every sector in the country. And how education now is one of the most important source in the country, when earlier it wasn't even recognized. They think they will reach a point where they the population will be 70 percent Qataris and the rest from other nations. But unfortunetly their sharp brains won't let it reach this point. Because honestly without all kind of nationalities in this country, Qatar wouldn't have accomplished anything by 2010, not even 2022.
That's you family tree/ history right there :-P
M.E.--
I totally agree with your point. People who reside in Qatar for a certain period of time and have a useful skill set should be given the opportunity for citizenship. Not only is it the just thing to do, such an policy would enable the national population to sustain itself, grow and remain relevant.
Well there is another point too, we are speaking about footballers that spends few years in the team and then afterwards leave Doha and return to their country. What about those who served this countries their whole life? My grandfather served this country for 20 years and he made a differenc in Qatar's education back then when people hardly knew anything about education. I mustn't lie they offered him the passport but instead take the Egyptian passport. My grandfather refused because he couldn't simply give away where he actually comes from. Then my dad followed him and lived here from primary until high school. He then got back to Egypt, finished his University studies and came back to Qatar, he didn't even get a job and got paid. He volunteered as a Doctor (because that's what he does) at Hamad Hospital; back then it was the best hospital in Doha (soon it won't be). Then they decided to finally give him a job at HMC and get paid. He then used to travel fro time to time to Egypt. He met mum, got married and got her to Doha. He gave birth to my brother, my sister and I. My brother is 23, my sister is 22 and I am 21. So imagine how many years my dad spent in this country. I spent my whole life, my sister and brother same thing. My mum spent over 20 years. After all they have to bother themselves and offer us the passport, not us going and asking for it. I am saying out of appreciation they were suppose to do so. The reason why I want to get the passport is that I can't imagine myself living anywhere else but in Doha at the moment. It's like home, Egypt isn't forgotten or anything. But I lived in Qatar and it happened that I did. Now this is something more concerning than football players getting the passport and keeping it. And I am sure that there are lots of people that served this country for over 20 years and they still aren't appreciated for that. Gesture of appreciation, there are many.
That's true, but what to do? :/
Anyone representing a country, should be allowed to reside in that country even after he/ she quits playing the sport.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I have heard, in Qatar, players are given passports only to represent the country for the duration they play the sport and are only allowed to use the passport for travel related to a sporting event while representing the country.
If traveling on vacation, they have to use their own passport. The passports were taken back after the sporting event.
Well the hardest part of all is being Peter North :)
I wish I was Peter North... get paid BIG and get laid BIG :-P
What I can't believe is the fact that football players get paid very well (big time) when all they do is kick a ball. And on the other hand a hard working man or woman that makes a huge difference in the countries success or in any companies success get paid less than a football player (pretty biiiig time).
I wish I was a talented footballer, I would have made lots of money out of kicking balls. ;) Hmmmm...interesting.
If they're not given the passport, they cannot play for the country, hence the need to be given the Qatari passport :-(
I still don't see the need to give them a passport just so they can play in the national team...wtf? Like the big fat pay cheques arnt enough.
when you say they were nationalized, do you mean given a Qatari passport only for the games purpose? Or will they be allowed to stay in Qatar even if a year down the line, they don't represent the country?
Very true smoke.
Funny how you can get Qatari citizenship if you know how to kick a ball, but you can be born or spend 30 years here and still not get one.
genesis in 1993 and before most of the players were Qataris not imported ones isnt it?
1982 they were runners up in World Youth Championship
I don't think there is any need to justify nationalized Qataris.. There are many sportsmen representing countries not of their birth...
Genesis--
Maybe the problem is that Qatar is not importing the right players . . . The new impetus of 2022 should give good cause, and ready cash, to entice quality players. It worked in the US until domestic interest grew enough produce some quality homegrown players.
Besides, I suspect many expats whose own country is not represented in the tournament will turnout to support the Qatar team, so attendance at the matches should be good regardless.
in the contrary, Qatar's FIFA ranking dropped from 54 in 1993 to 114 in December 2010
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=qat/ranking/gender=m/index.html
Many Qataris think that is this due to the Football association strategy of nationalizing players
I think many have already witnessed how Qatari spectator deserted the Qatar Vs. Uzbekistan before it ends. I also think that not many will turn out for the upcoming matches. Most wants the team to be an all Qatari team, Which i don't think is the reason why the Qatari Team ranking is decreasing.
Genesis--
How much do you think this will change by 2012? I suspect the number of natural-born Qataris is headed for a steep decline, especially if recent performance is a factor . . .
out of the 23 players only Mohammed Kasola, Fábio César Montezine and Sebastián Soria were nationalized.
Both Hussein Yasser & Wesam Rizik are of Egyptian & Palestinian roots , but their families were granted the Qatari nationality some time back. The rest of the team are Qataris.
To be fair, plenty on the US team are recent 'immigrants'--although less now than ten years ago. At least these guys are getting citizenship for their efforts . . .
I bet Qatar football club pay alot of money to lure foreign born player to play for Qatar then become citizen .
You're welcome, but so far I am the only one who gave you the correct information.
Good day!
Expatgeezer
Nobody is perfect!!! Im proud being New Zealand Maori !!!
the question should be...how many qataris are honestly interested in football...
half of players are baloch, from irani n pak!
Fabio Al Emadi
and Sebestian Al Marri ;)
M.E. & whyteknight
Sweet!!! thank for info !!!
The question should be How many Qataris play for Qatar?
so u have eyes on his ID, u naughty boy :D
There is Fabio Cesar, he's our neighbor, he lives in the second villa right next to us.
And there is also Suri or Sebastian I think. I think Suri is his second name, his frist name might be Cristiano. I am not sure but he's a good football player.
Rizks, this is me. I lost my eye in the battle of Waterloo.
Nice ID u have ! :(
Noooooooooooooooooo. They don't do this here.
None.. They were all citizens of Qatar.