i beg to disagree with you master_mas. for almost 4 years now, i've been playing kal from kalonline.com. see it yourself and you'll know what I'm talking about. when WoW went out, I said cool let me try it. then again, the community and gameplay of kal is better than WoW - oh not to mention you can play it free.

back into topic.if a person plays for more than 3-4 hours straight (or possibly more - my record is 52 hours straight) and talks the l337 language then he is considered hard core gamer :O

just my 2 cents...