Gypsy - "in the West, we've created a culture of men who are not interested, or not mature enough to get married."

I heard that from my German and Swiss male friends that it's not that they're not interested but that they are very fearful of getting married because if they make a mistake and have to divorce, it will be seriously hell to pay financially. They feel that they'd like to keep all that they have worked all their lives for - their career, position and money. They told me that the divorce rates are huge and rising so to preempt that, in their view, is to avoid getting married but they have casual relationships because they need s** without the foreseeable problems of AIDS etc. hence they go after decent women (who don't sleep around/have limited partners). So it's a loop - decent men and decent women get together but when the woman wants a commitment or a proper relationship, they cop out and simply don't get married. If the woman is willing to accept it, fine but if not, she leaves (and usually with a lot of emotional pain)

Another American guy said he values his freedom above all else and does not want the shackles of marriage. His gf is willing to go along with it. So it all depends on what an individual's values and expectations are. What is acceptable to some, are not acceptable to others. Just have to be true to oneself and don't compromise, then one will be happy.

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