as far as women wanting to date ugly men...

what a load of garbage. does anyone actually believe that? I should hope not

as a man i can say that:

1) she must be presentable. she must be good looking enough that I dont recoil in some way when I see her. if i can see myself kissing this girl and enjoying it then thats good enough
2) she must be nice to be around. its ALOT more important to me that a girl be nice, have a good sense of humor, and be relatively adventurous... like willingness to do outdoors activities and such

number 2 is more important than number one. if i had to pick between a hot girlfriend who wont do anything but go to the mall and shop and a homely girl who loves to have fun and i can have a good conversation with... i would pick the latter without a moment of hesitation.

most women think on similar terms

its about whether you can live with that person not whether you want to masturbate to their image